This fellow is planning an "End of the World" Party for December 21, 2012, to coincide with the supposed Mayan calculation of the date on which the world will end. More power to him — even if he's wrong, a well-planned party is never a disappointment. Just stay off this guy's "Ban List."
What about those Mayans, though? If they were so smart, where are they now — huh? Well, I've been doing a lot of research, and I think I do understand what happened to the Mayans. According to author David Webster, the Mayan elite culture may not have survived, but descendants of the Mayans actually still live in the tropical rain forests surrounding the ruins of Mayan civilization. Put less delicately by Lawrence H. Freeman in the July 2000 issue of Guadalajara-Lakeside:
If you want to know what happened to the Maya, the answer is – nothing. Go to the Yucatan, or Chiapas, or Guatemala, or Belize, or even Honduras. All those little short, big-nosed people wandering around are all Maya. You can easily recognize their faces on the ancient Maya sculptures. The truth is that there are likely as many Maya today as there ever were. Pretty amazing, considering that it is estimated that the diseases brought by Cortes killed some 95% of the population at the time. The fact is that, other than the depredations caused by Cortes' coming, nothing happened to the Maya people. They never went away, rather it was their leadership that failed.
There's probably a bigger axe there that Mr. Freeman is trying to grind, but we'll leave that there for the moment.
In my view, the answer to this mystery of the Mayans can be found simply by taking a walk around downtown Detroit today. Apart from the ruins of a great automobile-based civilization, what's there? Nothing. What happened to all the people who used to live there? They all moved to the suburbs — to Troy and Warren and Grosse Pointe, among other places. That's what happened to the Mayans — they moved to the suburbs, thereby condemning their "elite culture" to a slow and tragic demise.
Now, seeing what moving to the suburbs has done to all those Detroiters, can you blame the Mayans for losing command of their math and calendar-making skills? Those Detroiters are probably worse off than the Mayans in terms of intellectual drain, if you want to get serious about this, considering the 24-hour availability of cable TV.
September 25, 2006 at 5:34 pm
thats clever!!! hows that workin out for ya??? being clever i mean…
September 27, 2006 at 12:00 pm
[...] I’m not going to say he’s crazy because he sees parallels between Mayan civilization and U.S. civilization. After all, it is hard to ignore that pesky matter of Detroit. I’m just going to say Mel Gibson’s crazy. Because he is. Certifiably. [...]
November 2, 2006 at 3:41 pm
I believe that Mel’s new movie “APOCALYPTO” is going to set the stage for more discussion about the coming “end of the world” in 2012. To be more exact, December 21 2012 which is the end of the Mayan calendar. I found it interesting to read on the web site http://www.december212012.com that Mel Gibson was interested in getting or buying that web site so that he could keep people informed about what is coming.
January 4, 2007 at 2:07 pm
Television news is like a lightning flash. It makes a loud noise, lights up everything around it, leaves everything else in darkness and then is suddenly gone.
January 5, 2007 at 3:23 am
Has anyone considered that the Mayan calendar maker(s) may have stopped at 2012 and said, “There, that should do us for a while.” Do you see future calendars, besides the next year’s, in our stores? Does that mean the world will end in 2007? No, wait! 2008! Uh…2009? Ah, nuts! Let’s just go have a drink. Here’s t’ ya! (hic!)
January 13, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Bible prophecies make the Mayan calendar end date of December 21, 2012 IMPOSSIBLE. I’m Jonah Immanu, Christian eschatological author of Alienated Planet Earth and the End that Will be Coming to Our World (ISBN: 1412050154).
Good news everybody, we are in the year 2007
already and the rapture has not yet occurred, the antichrist has still never been revealed but at least we can know by mathematical calculation that the year 2012 is NOT the end of our physical world, NOT by a long shot.
If the rapture occurs and the antichrist is revealed in 2007, there would still be another 7 more years for the Tribulation and the Great Tribulation to occur or 2 years PAST 2012, when the Mayans had predicted the end of our physical world. In terms of Bible prophecy, the Mayans are already wrong because under such a scenario the year 2012 would only allow for 5 years of Tribulation and Great Tribulation under the rule of the antichrist. However, Bible prophets are NEVER WRONG so that means that the Mayans are already wrong. Our physical world is slated to last under the great Christian paradigm shift until Christ is ruling and reigning in glory upon our earth for an initial one-thousand years AFTER the Great Tribulation ends with Christ’s Second Coming. At the very least that takes our physical earth’s existence up to the year 3007 considering Christ’s Millennial reign. So, not to worry! Unless, you are not ready or prepared for the Rapture Refuge Event in Christian History which has always been “imminent”. The Amageddon Cocktail Hour (I guess that’s Quay Fortuna says: Mel Gibson is certifiably crazy because he believes in the Mayan Calander and 2012 as the end of times). Jonah Immanu says: Alienated Planet Earth and the End that Will be Coming Our World is great prospective movie material and could be a great, Biblically-based Mel Gibson motion picture production sequel to the Passion of Christ and Apocalypto. Try not to tie-up my email site: logospublishingservingyeshua@yahoo.com because I’m waiting on “Crazy, but very rich, Mel Gibson, certifiably on his way to his banks” to email me with an offer after reading this comment to use my book as a SCRIPT basis for his greatest motion picture sequel that will ever be possible in these end-times.
Jonah Immanu, Christian Eschatological Author, Alienated Planet Earth and the End that Will be Coming to Our World
March 27, 2007 at 3:23 am
When I was 9, the world was supposed to end because all the planets lined up….or something like that. Then something else was happening in the heavens and the world was supposed to end. Then it was the millineum. I stopped getting my panties in a twist over this “end of the world” stuff awhile back.
May 31, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Hello, I like to invite all people intrested in the 2012 event to Guatemala to discuss Mayan prohephcys at the site where their accured.
http://www.losencuentros.com
www. worldendsparty.com
June 4, 2007 at 5:37 am
I have worked in conflict, post conflict and countries in transition. I can see that the trends towards Doomsday is approaching faster in some countries.
It can only be reversed if Concerned Citizens become aware of the trends and work with each other to correct the issues that is leading us to Doomsday.
October 24, 2007 at 4:31 am
Check out http://www.polereversal.com
They have forum discussions and news articles on 2012, pole shifts, mayan calendar predictions, etc.
October 30, 2007 at 9:26 pm
We learn now from the Bible that the Rapture will be May 21th 2011 AD.
Five month’s* after, the Ultimate Terror: Judgment Day Oktober 21th 2011 AD
* And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. (Revelation 9:5)
The Bible is a Book that is absolutely true and trustworthy. It is the centerpiece, the keystone of this study.
Website Time Has An End: A Biblical History of the World 11.013 BC – AD 2011 http://www.timehasanend.org/
December 31, 2007 at 3:08 am
it would be best if you listen to jonah every one should be ready for the wrapture
December 31, 2007 at 3:14 am
and for the record {kees drog}know one has learned anything from the bible about that specific date, and i quote for that day and hour knoweth no man not the angels in heaven nor jesus only god almighty himself and number two learn how to spell october! have a nice day every 1
December 31, 2007 at 3:21 am
every one pay attention to jonah because when he talks about the seven year tribulation he is exactly right and take into consideration that the mayans werent christian so there estimations are close but not accurate
February 19, 2008 at 5:26 am
“diseases brought by Cortes killed some 95% of the population at the time”… That’s funny… or it was Cortes and the greed of the conquistadors that killed off the most people…. slaughtered them aimlessly when the Mayan were most accepting of them…
March 11, 2008 at 4:20 am
the end of the world again! In my lifetime the world was supost to end 3 times… I’ve gotten over these theories by now
April 19, 2008 at 7:46 pm
What if people in the 1970’s, studying computers, realized that the digital calendar ends on January 1, 2000? It’s frankly amazing that there was not a digital doomsday culture spreading in the 70’s or 80’s and certainly by 1990.
April 25, 2008 at 10:38 am
The Mayans believed that the date of Dec 21, 2012 is essentially a transition from the current world into another time period.
In the current world the Devil is being held back by Michael the protecter of the people. He is being held back until the proper time. I believe that it is quite possible that the Dec 21, 2012 date marks the middle of the tribulation period also known as the Great Tribulation. The Great Tribulation is the start of a new period of time in which the Antichrist is revealed and begins his reign on earth.
He [Antichrist] will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty men and the holy people. He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior (Daniel 8:24, 25).
Could the country of Turkey be where the AC is from? Afterall if Dec 21 2012 is a possible date for the start of the Great Tribulation. Remember from July-Dec 2012 the country of Cyprus will hold the Title of EU Presidency. Cyprus is an occupied and divided country. Turkey occupies the northern half while Greece occupies the southern half. It would make no sense to me to have an OCCUPIED country have the title of EU Presidency unless of couse it will be truly Turkey that is pulling strings.
In the verse above it says he became very strong but not by his own power. This is an interesting verse for 2 reasons:
The country of Cyprus is recognized as the country of Cyprus by most countries in the world however Turkey and Greece do not recognize it as such.Could it be that when the land mass known as Cyprus holds the EU Presidency title that Turkey will be the country using the power of the EU to there advantage. Thus power that is not his own.
2nd reason. Having the power of the EU couls quite possibly give the AC huge amounts of power. The power of many the countries in the EU. Thus power that is not his own.
And now you know what is holding him back, so that he [Antichrist] may be revealed at the proper time (2 Thessalonians 2:6).
September 9, 2008 at 2:28 am
Wer on the roman calenda nt mayan;-) bt thy prddictd wen we wud hav an eclipz. Bt hu r thy 2 say wen the wrld ends! We wud knw mur thn thm luk at the scientists thse days! They wernt tht cleva thn! We knw wat the weva is goin b! The sun cums up everyday. We hav air we hav everyfin we nd. Y wud it cum 2 an end? O yh cuz the aztecs say!
September 9, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Wndr wt Hlly’s gt agnst vwls.
December 16, 2008 at 1:40 am
ok i was wandering if anyone had thought about this yet. The world loves to be festive so why the heck not. but instead of just haveing it go on for one night we could start on the 12th and rock for the final ten day countdown and give the Mayans the respect they deserve. We need the World to fund this most important event so we can set this thing off right. The right thing to do would be to go to the Mayan ruins themselves for all the woderful parties. that can have all the worlds preformers donate there talants for airfare. so we can get everyone situated. we also need stellarphonic orchestra to do the lights with solar energy so bright that we ll be able to see them from space. but i stress people all the work has yet to be done we to start immediately we only have Four years left.
January 30, 2009 at 6:50 pm
hi! get of computer and get life.
P.S. Good story
September 6, 2009 at 4:24 am
I’ve alway woundered what happened to the Mayans. Like some say they are still alive and well. But think about this ,throughout the ages man has conquered man .The Medopersians conquered the Babylonians,the Greeks conquered the Medopersian ,the Romans conquered the Greeks. The Toltecs conquered the Mayans. Wasn’t that easy?
October 5, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Mayans are still around in Mexico etc. it’s just that they probably aren’t the exact culture.