Name: Dr. Jack Leo Van Impe
Birth: February 1931, Freeport, Michigan
Claim to Fame: Apocalyptic televangelist and self-styled “Walking Bible,” head of the Jack Van Impe Ministries World Outreach Center in Rochester Hills, Michigan
Power Base: Mesmerized television viewers of “apocalypse porn” in 210 TV markets around the U.S., where his half-hour show Jack Van Impe Presents often airs between midnight and 6 a.m. on Sunday mornings
Google Hits: 33,000 hits for “jack van impe antichrist” as of 8/07/06 — although, to be fair, the guy talks a lot about the Antichrist, so the number is probably incidentally inflated.
Merits: “BEWARE OF JACK VAN IMPE,” writes David W. Cloud of the Fundamentalist Baptist Information Service. “He is a deeply deluded and very dangerous man.”
Although it is often true that fundamentalist Baptists and apocalyptic televangelists make very good bedfellows, Jack Van Impe has had a severe falling-out with a large number of people who would otherwise be a part of his natural flock over the past few decades.
A 1952 graduate of the Detroit Bible College (now known as William Tyndale College), Van Impe launched his career as a preacher in the Detroit area — warning about the dangers of rock ‘n roll, alcohol and communism. Eventually, he gained a national following as a traveling, musical “ambassador for Christ,” and later, through his syndicated radio show. As a popular leader among conservative Christians, Van Impe was well-known for his fierce advocacy of “Biblical separation” — the idea that most self-labelled Christian faiths were practicing in error, and that true fundamentalist Christians should isolate themselves from all the “wrong-thinking” faiths.
In the 1970s, however, Van Impe began to undergo an astonishing change of belief when he began to criticize the “appalling lack of love and unity among so many of the brothers and sisters in Christ,” striking an ecumenical chord and even going so far as to refer to Pope John Paul II as a “defender of truth.” As David Cloud observes, “The ecumenical river is running powerfully in the direction of the City on Seven Hills where the old harlot lives (Rev. 17) [i.e. Rome], and if a preacher does not aggressively paddle against the current, he will be swept down stream.”
In addition to Van Impe’s defense of Roman Catholicism, fundamentalist apocalyptics are suspicious of the following:
- Van Impe has lashed out at other apocalyptics. In 2005, for example, after Pat Robertson called for the assassination of Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, Van Impe compared Robertson to Osama bin Laden, and called for Robertson to recant not only the Chavez remark, but also Robertson’s expressed hope that a Supreme Court justice would die and pave the way for a pro-life Court majority.
- Van Impe proclaims that Islam is a peaceful religion — much to the profound irritation of apocalyptics. In March 2003, according to Todd Stranberg of RaptureReady.com, Van Impe “all but declared Islam to be equal to Christianity.” Detractors point out that Van Impe has been praised by the Islamic Supreme Council of America for his “fairness,” and that in September 2004, Van Impe exhorted his viewers to “thank God for the Muslims who are preaching love.”
- The surname “Van Impe” is a Dutch-Flemish name which is believed to be derived from the old German word “impfen,” or “to graft.” By the 1400s, it was common to use the word “imp” to refer to “a child,” but it was even more common a century later to use the word to refer to a “child from hell,” or, the “spawn of Satan.” These days, “imp” is generally accepted to mean “fiend,” “evil creature” or “small demon.”
- Finally, Jack Van Impe is known to play a mean accordion — which, if it is not considered to be the devil’s instrument, it certainly should be.
Still, in all, J-Vim continues to host his weekly TV show with gusto, his slightly creepy amanuensis Rexella sitting by his side. (David Futrelle in Salon described Rexella thusly: “Prim and cheerful, with permed blonde hair and a Home-Shopping-Network fashion sense, Rexella speaks of the end of the world as calmly as if she were announcing a potluck.” Hard to beat that kind of prose.) He ebulliently quotes bible verses and interprets news stories with an eye towards showing that the Rapture, Armageddon and the Second Coming are just around the corner. He himself now seems to favor the theory that the EU is the Antichrist. He had seen, in the 1979 energy crisis, signs of an apocalypse that could have occurred as early as 1980; in the years leading to 2000, however, he was fairly Y2K-obsessed, predicting widespread catastrophes associated with the turning of the millennium, and he was also fond of saying that Bill Clinton was the “End of Times President.” Since then, in general, Van Impe has shrewdly kept his viewers on the edge of their seats, refusing to make an outright prediction of the date of the end of the world.
Quay Fortuna’s Analysis: Within the provincial world of apocalyptic fundamentalist Christians, Jack Van Impe’s turnabout from “Biblical separation” was a cutting and treacherous blow, and the sense of outrage over it tends to make Van Impe out to be a much more important character to the fundamentalist community than he really is to the rest of the Earth.
On the other hand, wouldn’t it be just like the Antichrist to keep calling attention to the impending apocalypse, mollifying us with the right hand of anticipation while the left hand, while we’re not paying attention, grasps us firmly by the windpipe and clenches down hard? Yes, he’d be giving us false dates and false antichrists high and low, wouldn’t he? And the more clever among us would see right through it, by employing that one time-honored, tried-and-true rule — “He who smelt it, dealt it.” Ultimately, that is one law of nature that is difficult to argue with.
So, yes, there are some compelling arguments that Jack Van Impe might be the Antichrist. In my own humble opinion, however, if it were true — well, I must say I would’ve expected that the Antichrist would have a more hip haircut, wear nicer suits, and have a better time slot on the tube.
September 29, 2006 at 7:28 am
jack van impe isn’t the anti christ and he speaks the truth about the bible on his show
December 10, 2009 at 7:29 am
The article about Jack Van Impe is ridiculous. Why don’t you go after the real cons..eg: Benny Hinn. You may not believe or agree on the teachings of the Roman Catholic church but at least they claim Jesus Christ is God and Our Redeemer and that is all we need! Also the church does not advocate New Age teachings; which I know JVI does not.
August 28, 2010 at 8:18 pm
The CC does believe in Jesus they just don’t believe in his teachings, that is why they went about to establish their own righteousness.
June 15, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Gemma, While I love the way Mr. Van Impe has a true heart for the Word of the Lord, and earnestly applaud his stance, I pray to Almighty God he ‘wakes up’ and takes a solid background deep look into the Catholic Churches dealings with the U.N. I’ve NEVER seen so many men (ALL the Popes) who wish to give so much “power” to one organization with so many terrible and dangerously “hidden” agendas, which if the Lord Himself doesn’t help could destroy us ALL.
PLEASE read each and every statement made by these Popes , and their calls for ‘A New World Order’ and how they want it to be done? Absolutely fascinating and scary beyond belief. As Jack checks and rechecks his Biblical information for accuracy, it’s now past time for him to do so, when it comes to the Catholic Church and the Popes who ‘run it’ as well.
September 29, 2006 at 4:09 pm
I agree with awol, he’s not the antichrist. He’s trying to alert people to see the signs that Jesus Christ’s return is VERY near…”So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, (signs) know that it is near, even at the doors”
Matthew 24:33 KJV
Remember……everyone laughed at NOAH, too.
June 10, 2009 at 1:57 am
How are we supposed to remember that?? Are you crazy, Noah was fiction, he was as real as Santa. Get a life.
December 10, 2009 at 7:32 am
How can anyone state that a Biblical figure is fictional..eg: Santa..As a matter of fact..Santa comes from Saint Nicholas who was a very real person. STUDY your saints! Of course, the story is embellished to entertain children..hence coming down the chimney etc. but these again are based on very real acts.
September 21, 2014 at 1:34 pm
Noah was the real deal, as to get a life, if you don’t believe you will not have eternal life. Must believe in all of the bible can’t take or add from this book. Faith is a blessing trust in the lord.
March 25, 2013 at 6:18 am
Angel,
I never said that Mr. Van Impe was the antichrist or an antichrist, but he needs to delve deeply into the Catholic system that he’s pushing on his viewers (I’m talking about the ones who are bowing down to statues, pictures, etc. of Mary, other Popes, etc., which the very Bible that he reads has told us NOT to do.), because their ‘blood’ will most assuredly be on ‘his hands’ if he doesn’t hurry up and find out the truth about this system, and see how what they’re doing lines up with the book of Revelation. I believe it is the Whore mentioned there and will take many down with it and sadly Mr. Van Impe is helping them to do so.
April 13, 2018 at 3:18 pm
Jack is a Jesuit. Same as Billy Graham. They are trained to fit in the Christian churches, schools, seminaries and anything that represents true born again Christianity. They first work on being accepted by us. They work hard at earning our trust. Once they have it, they are usually the extremists and quite vocal at rejecting the real christian cults, including the Roman Catholic Church. This is text book Jesuit training into deceiving the true flock of God that they are our brothers in Christ Jesus. They are not. Satan will allow thousands if not millions of people to come to Christ through them if he can eventually lead whole denominatins to Rome to establish a One World Church and Government, lead of course by Satan, himself. It’s working. Because of men and women like them, true soldiers of the Roman Catholic Church, they are destroying God’s true living church,the body of Christ, by first introducing to us grossly perverted versions of the Bible ( KJV ). They couldn’t’ destroy the true Word of God, but they’ve managed to get the body of Christ to question it and in many cases, even reject it in favour of all these new perverted versions. After that is accomplished, they work on introducing non-biblical doctrines into the body of Christ such as: the lifting up the works of the Holy Spirit insread of the lifting up of Christ Jesus Himself. the raising up of our emotional feelings and experiences above what the Word of God says. the listening of television evangelists over the reading of our Bibles for ourselves. In other words, letting tv evangelists be our teachers instead of the Holy Spirit. All the tv evangelists are competing for your money. They all work for the same boss, Satan. The Catholic Church owns and controls all the tv networks. If you’re on tv, it’s because you’re not offending the whore of Revelation, you’re working for her. The true church of Christ is anywhere where 2 or more are gathered in his name(Jesus). If every true born again Christian evangelized his or her local neigbours instead of the world, more people would come to know Christ every year, than all these tv evangelists and missionaries put together, who are begging for your money in order to support their high standard of living. Your money can go a lot further in helping the poor, the fatherless and widows in your own neighbourhood. You at least know where your money is going. The teachings of great revivals and the joining together of all denominations and cults(now called other Christian denominations) to evangelize the world together, before the return of the Lord Jesus Christ. The KJV Bible teaches us that there will be a great apostasy, a great falling away, before the coming of Christ. How does that line up with their false satanic teachings. I could go on and on with examples, but I believe I’ve made my point. We’ve been infiltrated by imposters, deceivers, false teachers and preachers,ravening wolves in sheep’s clothing. If your eyes and nose are not in God’s Word on a daily basis you could become their next victim. Be strong and of good courage saith the Lord. If you don’t stand for and on the Truth(Jesus), you will fall for something other than the truth. Jesus said, My sheep hear my voice. Jesus is the Word of God. If you don’t have the time to read the Word of God, what you are truly saying is that you don’t have time for Jesus. If you don’t have time for Him, He then, is not the Love of your life. Then maybe it’s your wife, your children,your parents, your job,your career, your house, your car, your money, etc….. Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things(above mentioned) will be added on to you. But if Christ isn’t first, you can have any and all of the above for awhile, but when you lose them, you’ll then blame God for it and possibly worse, curse Him for supposedly destroying your own little self made kingdom. Hés not the destroyer, Satan is. Be faithful to God and His Word and you will not be deceived and therefore not be disappointed. In Christ’s love Roger
September 21, 2014 at 1:32 pm
Amen!
December 26, 2006 at 4:56 am
I have to say at this point in time I’m giving a serious ear to Jack and Rexella VanImpe, and I’m impressed with their arguments and the way they carry themselves; on the other hand, I hope they would get a laugh out of some of the “analysis” above that I have. I guess I just have an overdeveloped sense of humor for the commentator’s use of the English language.
Having said that, I am deeply grateful for the work they have done and the witness they present. As far as their having made any mistakes in what they have held out in the past, I haven’t seen anything that indicates they were holding out specifics and I haven’t seen or heard them do that when I’ve read or listened to their material.
My husband and I have just finished viewing their DVDs on Daniel and are thus far very impressed.
Do be careful about having a mocking spirit. Scripture repeatedly warns against that error.
July 27, 2010 at 5:22 pm
remember God said that my people will be persucted in the end days. Satan does not want you to believe in him because if you believe in him then you have to believe in God He cannot exsist without the other. I watch Jack and rexecella every week and I am very careful in who I believe and they are the real thing but remember God said in the last days that those who do not truly have God in there heart will be blinded and decieved “Evil is good and Good is evil nowadays”
December 28, 2006 at 3:26 am
The Van Impes are the most absurd figures on television today. They are the professional wrestlers of the religious world: only the dim-witted think they are for real.
July 17, 2009 at 7:41 pm
You call them what you want. But what if you are wrong. Are you willing to take that chance. If you ask me it is dim-witters like you that stay ignorant to the truth. How about this Mike pick up a Bible and check it out for yourself and see what Thus Saith The Lord. The fact is that the Bible is true. God is real. And if you think anything different my friend you are headed down a road of death and hell. Jesus loves you and wants you to know the truth. Submit your life to God and repent of yours sin. Trust in The Lord Jesus Christ and make him the savior of you life. If you or anyone out there has questions about the Bible email me at ministernash924@peoplepc.com
December 10, 2009 at 7:34 am
Just remember Satan has dominion in this world. I honor Jack and his wife and always remember the words of Mother Teresa…she said, “Be in the world and not of the world!”
September 16, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Greetings….In the only name above all names a MAN above all men….KING of KINGS ,LORD of LORDS, The SAVIOUR, SECOND ADAM, LAMB of GOD, FIRST BEGOTTEN SON, MASTER TEACHER, AND EVERYTHING ELSE ALL GOOD. HE will come as a thief in the night.
Regarding a lot of debates of this and that try http://www.apostlepowerspiritsoflight.org
Gotta go….try to find this again, MANIFOLD BLESSINGS
LOVINGLY IN HIM.
January 7, 2007 at 10:19 am
You can say whatever you want about the VanImpe’s.
All I know is that at the end of his show, he ask
everyone to come to Jesus Christ! That’s all that matters. The utter stupidity of the person who wrote the article above is absurd. How can the anti-christ tell others to come to Christ?
Wouldn’t he be anti—-Christ?
Let GOD be true and every man a LIAR! He preaches Christ and that is ALL that matters.
Gary Denton
Auckland, New Zealand
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January 8, 2007 at 6:03 pm
To the part in the above article stating, “in September 2004, Van Impe exhorted his viewers to “thank God for the Muslims who are preaching love.” this is not a complete quote and is taken out of context. Before and after that statement, Jack talked about those Muslims who preached hate according to their Koran and thanked the Almighty God for those Muslims who did not understand or accept this part of the Koran and follow it.
Mant truths are taken out of context and turned into lies. Remember that the King of all Liars will tell you 100 truths to get you to believe one lie. In the above article , there are many truths about Jack’s background and preaching presented, only to be intermingled with lies.
Another example:
“Prim and cheerful, with permed blonde hair and a Home-Shopping-Network fashion sense, Rexella speaks of the end of the world as calmly as if she were announcing a potluck.”
Rexella and Jack do not preach the end of the world. They preach that the world has no end as the Bible states. (Remember the prayers you learned as a child, “world without end, Amen!) Also, they preach that true believers of Christ have nothing to fear from the upcomming Tribulation as God will “keep them from it”. If you are a true believer in Christ this will cause you to smile and be cheerful as well.
With so many lies in the above article, one could write a rebuttment 10 times as long proving the truth.
I ask all believers of Christ Jesus to aid in doing this by posting a reply to the above article.
April 6, 2010 at 12:08 am
AMEN! Trust in the Lord Your GOD with all your heart, souls and mind; our faith with save US> ALLELUJAH!
January 9, 2007 at 3:24 am
While I don’t believe that Van Impe is the anti-christ, I do believe he is in danger of not speaking the whole counsel of God. Just last night I heard him promoting his new book and dvd ’11:59 The Countdown’ and was astonished to hear that he believe this earth will not end. Saying that because he could not find the end of this world in connection with verses that spoke of the end times or latter days or end of days and so on that this world will noy come to end but that we will live and reign on this existing planet is incorrect and foolish. The Bible is very clear that this current earth and heavens will be destroyed.We see this in Revelation 21:1-2; Revelation 20:11; Isiaih 13:9-13; 2 Peter 3:5-10; Psalms102:25-27; Hebrews 1:10-12. These are just a few. This whole planet and the entire creation has been defiled by sin Romans 8:19-21. He also quoted from Ephesians 3:21 “unto Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end, Amen.” Now on the surface It would seem he is correct, that is of course you disregard the scriptures I just mentioned but if you study the Greek text you will find the phrase refers generations and a period of time. The specific Greek word used for world is ‘aion’. If Paul had meant this earth He would have used the word ‘ge’ or ‘oikoumene’. Cleary this specific scripture does not support His teaching.
Any time we study the word of God on any given topic we need to search all of the scripture not just the ones connected with certain phrases and words. Once we have in view all of the scriptures then we can more clearly discern and understand what it has to say.
March 25, 2013 at 6:26 am
Nathan,
It seems that Mr. Van Impe still does not believe in the ‘end of the world’, but he does believe in the ‘end of the age’, which many are saying that this is what’s really meant here.
Besides that, why would I want to promote a destructive system like the Catholic Church or any other, that does exactly what the Bible says, “we’re not to do” (bowing to statues, burning incense, praying to the dead, etc.)? Don’t you think the Ruach HaKodesh-Holy Spirit, would have let him know a while ago that something is seriously ‘wrong’ with him doing all this??
January 10, 2007 at 4:24 am
Well as we go into the second week of the New Year 2007, it is about time that I weigh-in with the Bible’s views as a Christian Eschatological author of the book, “Alienated Planet Earth and the End that Will be Coming to Our World” (ISBN:1412050154) published in 2005 by Trafford Publishing-online URL: trafford.com/04-2823
The “Armageddon Cocktail Hour” an on-line forum created by Quay Fortuna has over the past year been featuring articles naming contemporary people as potential candidates for the antichrist. These have included Reverend Jack Van Impe and Senator Barack Obama. So that Quay and his audiences are perfectly clear, any attempts by people to identify the antichrist BEFORE the rapture event takes place will be an exercise in futility. Bible prophecy is clear that the antichrist will be revealed AFTER the Christian faithful have been safely refuged into heaven by the Lord Jesus. Until the rapture occurs in earth’s history, which it has not; speculating upon who is the antichrist is a waste of time. You can be sure that when the rapture event does take place that this most historical event in the history of Christianity is not going to be missed by those who are left-behind- by those who never believed in the Messiah Jesus. Right now, it is in-vogue to mock the doctrine of the rapture of the Christian faithful. However, after it actually occurs, everything will change for the secularists. Their world of left-behind secularists will become topsy-turvey because it will have become too-late foevermore to be refuged in heaven with the Lord to come into believing that Jesus is the World’s Messiah. About 7 years therafter, Messiah Jesus will be returning with His Raptured Saints and Faithful Angels making his Second Coming to earth to rule and reign for one-thousand years.
If the rapture were not a real event which was imminent, then Jesus would never have uttered Matthew 24: 40 & 41 on the Mount of Olives or at His discourse including the 34th, 35th and 36th verses of Luke 17 in His gospel. Later, the Apostle Paul corroborated and explained what Jesus had said in his First epistle (letter) to the Corinthians, Chapter 15 verses 51 through 57 and in 1 Thessaonians, Chapter
4, verses 13 through 18.
Perhaps Quay’s “Armegeddon Cocktail Hour” will become an instrument “working together for good” by drawing attenton to the blessed rapture event which is imminent and having people and their loved ones prepared for it before it takes them by surpise. That is all that we can hope for, at this time before it has occurred.
Jonah Immanu,
Christian Eschatological Author
July 19, 2010 at 3:45 am
What a bunch of crap! Dispensational hogwash and drug induced baloney. Ptl we have moved away from this kind of end times thinking. When I read this kind of material’ I know there is a great tribulation’ and this is it. God help us…
February 27, 2007 at 5:17 pm
The reason why he has 33,000 hits of “jack van impe antichrist” on GOOGLE is because he teaches of the antichrist which makes the GOOGLE search “jack van impe antichrist”. Those who type that into GOOGLE want to know what Dr. Jack Van Impe teaches about the antichrist not becuase they think he is the antichrist. Lets get this straight right now, (anti-christ) is anybody that is against Christ hense the term ANTI. Dr. Jack Van Impe is NOT against Christ so he is NOT ANTI-Christ. This article is by far the most ignorant thing I have ever read.
March 2, 2007 at 7:52 pm
Why do so many people in the world simply choose to believe whatever they choose. The word says you receive not cause you ask not. Me, personally if I do not know or understand something ” I pray to God our father through Jesus Christ and he gives me guidance. Why? because I ask him. Jack and Rexella Van Impe are Godly people who reach out through love. My hope is not in them but in Jesus Christ my personal Lord and Savior. I for one am not interested in being “right”, I simply want to know God’s truth according to his “Word”. Yes. I test everything! Christians aren’t perfect only forgiven. Jack and Rexella Van Impe want others to accept Christ and are doing what God has commissioned them to do… preaching the gospel and and relaying current events to what is transpiring in the world today. But hey, if someone chooses to believe a “lie” and not the truth … well one day there will be a day of reckoning then you to will have (past tense) wished that you knew the truth instead of being right. Yes, there is a danger of being judgemental of others especially if they are doing God’s Will.
March 9, 2007 at 3:04 am
Jack is a man of God.
March 13, 2007 at 2:44 pm
I am not sure what to think of Jack, this article gives me something to think about. I am very disturbed about Jack’s “romance” with the Pope. I believe the Catholic church is a counterfeit religion and is of the devil.
June 15, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Mark,
I think Mr. Van Impe is a ‘man’ (human) who really does love the Lord with all his heart, soul, and mind but when it comes to the Catholic Church, sadly I think there in lies the rub.
When you put the Word of God side by side to what the Catholic Bible says, and to what we see the Priests, Popes, and others doing (venerating Mary, praying to and asking the saints for help, etc.) it seriously makes you wonder.
Jesus says, He’s the way, the truth and the life, and that NO man cometh to the Father but by Him (John 14:6), so once again why are they praying to Mary or anyone else but Jesus or God??
March 17, 2007 at 10:37 am
Article states that Van impe is “refusing to make an outright prediction of the date of the end of the world”. Jack does not preach about the End of the world he preaches about a world with no end “just had a series about it a couple months ago. Jack is a walking bible and he speaks truth and he always invite people to christ. Quay Fortuna is ludacris and needs to watch the show so that he can get saved…
March 17, 2007 at 11:18 am
ANYONE who knows ANYTHING about scripture KNOWS Jack is not the ANITCHRIST! Hey, Mike #4, dimwitted people?? You’re attacking a lot of people who have been saved and come to the knowledge of the truth through Jack’s message. No one that invites people to receive Christ is WORKING AGAINST CHRIST! So, who’s dimwitted?
I profoundly agree with #9. This was a totally ignorant article.
And #12, are you kidding? Please tell me you’re kidding. The Catholic church is a counterfeit religion? It’s a church run by fallible people! Of course there will be some things in error. EVERY religion has SOME error. Jesus Christ is NOT about religion!! He’s about a WAY OF LIFE! HE IS THE BRIDGE TO GOT THE FATHER!!! I am NOT catholic, but I have several catholic friends who KNOW that Jesus is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. They choose to honor their “religion”, their way of practicing worship, but in their HEART they KNOW CHRIST.
GIVE ME A BREAK PEOPLE. DO YOURSELVES A FAVOR AND READ THE BIBLE. FIND THE TRUTH BEFORE YOU PICK PEOPLE APART, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO REACH THE UNSAVED WITH THE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS CHRIST.
THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!
July 19, 2010 at 3:51 am
Jvimpe is the antichrist. He has international communitcation; his wife looks like the beast with seven heads, he is persuasive as the antichrist will claim to be; he is suave, simple, able to leap building with a single bound, and of course he take verses out of context which is the spirit of the anitchrist. Get ready believers, choose you this day whom you will believe…Jack V. Impe, or the Lord Jesus Christ. Give it careful thought.
August 6, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Hello all you Van Impe haters and admirers. The simple fact is that the Van Impes preach the Bible to all and you who hate him. Well, for years this has been going on against him and his wife, and it was done mostly by the “Religious” and so why are you pickin on him? Pick up a Bible and read it if you don’t believe him, or think he is lying or presauding people in the wrong direction. I became a Christian by reading about God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. For the non-believing Van Impes believing Christians, it is your job to read the Word of God and test the spirits, weather they be of God or not, as well if he is of God you are just “kickin against the pricks (rocks)” like Paul did in the Bible, and there will be no reward. Somedays a Christain person may be only 10% in the Holy Spirit and other days maybe 25, 50 or maybe 100%, so if you confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, stop trying to “shoot” your own soldiers. Rexsella is a fine woman and to degrade her appearance shows a lack of “respect” and arragoence on the part of the complainer. If you don’t like how she dresses, perhaps you could buy her new clothes. many Christians are in Biblical error, have you checked out the Shepard’s Chapel lately. The Van Impes are not perfect, but are a great source for reading the Bible and encouraging you to make a commintment to Jesus Christ for Salavation. They do not agree with the Moslems, Catholics, etc., but do agree with people that have become Christian from thoses groups. be more careful who you condem, because it can come back to you.
August 6, 2011 at 8:35 pm
…yo S. Smith…you spelled arrogance wrong !!!…..
March 22, 2007 at 4:26 pm
“The truth will make you free.”
It is delightful to see that Christians can see that the writer of this article has it wrong, and that we can step up and defend a man of God who at the least attempts to provide the public with knowledge of God. Guay if you think Van Impe is the Anti-Christ don’t watch his show, you are doing us no favors by putting out what you are. What you are doing however is proving Jesus right by presicuting one who follows him, so in a sinse thank you, and have a blessed day, If you have not accepted Christ into your life, it is a wonderful and most powerful thing to truely know Him.
March 24, 2007 at 12:04 am
WHY? This article on Jack Van Impe is completely, and totally another scheme of the devil himself!!!The father of lies and the author thereof…I know that the accuser of the brethern, is just that… an accuser spreading lies and deceit to all who are not founded upont Christ: our solid rock!Praise GOD for all of you who are founded and have shared your views on this matter in love and great concern. As far as anyone knowing the day or hour of the Lords second coming: there is none!As far as the rapture of the church let us all hope for the pre-trib, but prepare for the post-trib!!!I stand in agreement with all of you who support Jack and his wife Rexella that they are GODS servants proclaiming Christ as LORD and preparing HIS WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS
January 4, 2016 at 11:06 pm
I agree 100% some people are blind, some are ignorant, some are downright evil! Jack Van Impe helped save me!!! God Bless.
March 27, 2007 at 10:14 pm
Opinions, opinions! I don’t like even my own opinions which never settle anything. But I do like solid, documented facts even though many can’t seem to handle them if they conflict with their opinions. If you’re a “facts” person, here are some Google articles that show how Jack’s rapture view came into being – articles that Jack wishes you wouldn’t read: “Pretrib Rapture Diehards,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “Famous Rapture Watchers,” “Letter from Mrs. Billy Graham,” and “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology).” If your opinions and druthers still grip you, type in “Scholars Weigh My Research” – if you think your opinions outweigh theirs! Jon
April 3, 2007 at 1:24 am
Oh, come on. There is no God. Jack and Rexella are just being shrewed capitalists. That of course, will eventually be their downfall, and Satan will take the rap.
July 1, 2010 at 3:02 am
Tom how can you say that Noah was not real and is fiction, I bet if you set down and actually open the Bible and read it with your mind opened, you might find out it is not as fictious as you say just give it a try read it every day for a month and then let us know how you feel.
July 24, 2010 at 10:54 am
what did you just say tony?
April 3, 2007 at 2:03 am
And what the boat at the top of Mr. Hebron? What about THAT, huh? Or the sky rocket? You talk about opinions, what about the rest of it? And the downfall? Are you kidding? What about shamrock? You are all skipping the main parts. There’s no conclusion without a beginning, and once the concrete stays by the wayside, you’ll see about the rap. Honestly people, am I the only one who sees?
April 6, 2007 at 8:49 am
he’s not the antichrist but doesn’t know what he’s talking about.can’t trust a man who has bulletproof hair. he repeats the same three bible verses week after week, and his wife rexella is just a bobblehead doll. watch her nod when they pan to her while jack is talking. hilarious!
March 29, 2010 at 11:32 am
Thats A Very Hideous Thing To Say. You Should Apologize
April 6, 2007 at 1:10 pm
i thank my god for preachers like Bro Impe. i am a Sikh and my wife is Muslim. i see Islam as one of the two witnesses. the Quran witnesses to the messiahship of Jesus and his virgin birth. the whole issue is about convincing the Jew who has a special calling which they reject. that is to lead mankind into the milleneum age where they will live and reign with Christ. Christ is the greek word for anointing and i denotes truth. Gods word is the Christ. therefore they will live and reign with the truth. i do not take it litteral that Jesus in person will be a world ruler but rather the truth from God which is Chrict Gods word will rule. the title Christ was bestowed on Jesus because he came preaching the truth from God. Jesus was only a man and upon his baptism by John in the jordon as the scripture records a voice was heard by John coming from heaven which said you are my beloved son in whom i am well pleased. this day have i begotton you.and further the scriptures say that when we accept Jesus and become immersed in his name his occupation which is charity we also become the sons and daughters of God we are the messiah by proxy
June 13, 2011 at 6:00 am
Well, I’m glad you believe in the Messiahship of Jesus, but he was much more than just a man. Jesus fulfilled more than 300 prophecies about the messiah and 193 very specific ones. In John 1:14 it states that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Who or what was the Word? Well, in Genesis it states that “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God”. Jesus is God’s Word made flesh, and since the Word is a separate thing and yet the same as God, obviously Jesus is quite literally God. In John 8:58 it says, “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am”. Also, 35 ‘While Jesus was teaching in the temple courts, he asked, “How is it that the teachers of the law say that the Christ is the son of David? 36 David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared: ” ‘The Lord said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet.” ‘
I also agree with truthtoall about how a lot of the Jack Van Impe bashing is taken out of context. I’ve watched Jack Van Impe for years and have to say, that he is a straight forward kind of guy and not a “tool of the government” or of the catholic church for that matter, as some people have labeled him. He simply advocated them because they teach the bible, and even though I don’t agree with everything they teach, that doesn’t make them a tool of the anti christ. People need to stop pointing fingers and saying “heretic!” or “false prophet!” etc. How many people have you brought to the Lord? Take the log out of your own eye before you can see well enough to take the splinter out of your brother’s eye.
September 21, 2014 at 1:38 pm
He’s the Messiah he’s the Christ. Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.
April 6, 2007 at 1:21 pm
i have debated some Jewish rabbis on line and i said this. the messianic age will come when the Jews stand up and be the light to the nations as a tribe aand not as a nation of capitalists. Moses was sent to deliver 12 tribes and they rejected this calling the day they wanted a king. the prophet Samuel was sent to warn them that a king will captialize on them but they completely relected it and said they wanted to be like the rest of the nations. so God said they haven’t rejected you Samuel they have rejected me. when the Jew begins to stand up and follow live in charity he ceaces to be Jacob any longer he becomes Isreal. Jacob was a subplanter. he stole his brothers blessing and conned him out of his birthright. when he surrendered to God his demeaner changed to a man who was humble and a man of charity he became a prophet. when the Jew gets the Christ in his heart , the Jew becomes Moses by proxy also Jesus by proxy. he becomes the messiah and the messianic age will begin
April 7, 2007 at 7:52 am
I was working tonight on a spreadsheet after semi-watching a very bad movie about Mary and then this jem of a show started right after. I had never saw that show before on tv. I was flabergasted.
To think that in this day and age of very, very vast knowledge people actually listen to this kind of mindless and pompous dribble about a book that was written hundreds of years after the fact, pretty much solely on hearsay by people who had their own agendas. Wow, talk about the telephone game.
I needed a break from my programming so I googled these people’s names and whamo I get on this site, where you guys seemed at first to be kidding, but really you’re not. Wow, what a world.
I’m an atheist. In your fairy-tale world, I’m a non-beleiver, or lost soul, or “not saved yet”, or whatnot. And I think you people should really give your heads a shake. If you truly believe in all this bible stuff, why don’t you do like your master tells you to do, which is to love everybody? Why don’t you do as he wants and give all your money away to poor people? Why don’t you just devote your life to helping others for free? After all, god will provide won’t he?
Seriously. If you truly believe in your religion, why don’t you practice what it teaches? Think about that…
April 7, 2007 at 10:27 am
Christian, in response to your statements, I’d like to say that as a believer I try everyday to do what the Master wants. I DO try to love everyone, even the unlovable, which in itself is quite a challenge at times. My Mother always taught me that the ones who are the hardest to love are the ones that need it the most. I DO give to those in need, as well as meeting my own needs, and the needs of my family. I HAVE devoted my life to helping others and demand nothing in return for it. Have you never heard, “it’s better to GIVE than RECEIVE?” That’s because of the inner joy it brings you. Even as an atheist, don’t you enjoy giving to people you care about? If you see someone hurting or injured, are you never moved to help them? I apologize that as Christians, in our imperfect humaness, we often times appear to people like yourself as hypocrits. I’m probably guilty of that. But I can tell you this. There is no greater joy than having a relationship with Jesus Christ. You see, christianity is NOT ABOUT RELIGION. It’s about relationship. It’s about a way of life. Religion is man made. Anytime man gets involved with anything his imperfections surface. Don’lt lump us all into one group and decide that God doesn’t exist because of our behavior. We’re only people with everyday challenges, hurts, and trials, just like you. The only difference is that WE KNOW in our hearts that God DOES exist, and that he paved the way for us to have a restored relationship with Him through His Son Jesus. He’s sees us through the blood of Christ and that makes us perfect to Him in His eyes. I hope someday you can grasp this and change your mind.
That is my prayer for you.
April 8, 2007 at 4:04 am
It’s frightening to think of the mindlessness and vulnerability of some people who actually believe in the words of someone like Jack VanImpe and his scary, nodding bride Rexella. Blind faith can get you killed. I should have thought of this gig years ago and made a killing. Get on TV, tell people that the end is coming, but I’m not sure when, just send me money to keep getting my message across. WOW! How gullible can you be?
May 1, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Did you know rock and roll was invented by the Russians? It was a plot to destroy the world? I wonder if Sam Phillips knew about this? Oh, and the world will end in 1977. Be warned! Hes not the anti crist…if Hitler wasnt it, im sure we’ll know when he comes along. I’m going to get to the straight scoop on this…im a little nervous to listen to my Bill Haley and the Comets records…
May 2, 2007 at 11:05 pm
Pardon me, it seems I left an incomplete statement last time. The world as we know it will end (or as it seems, not end)in 1972, 1973, 1974, 1976, and 1977. It will be brought about by a pearl Harbor like attack from the Russians, and/or The red Chinese, and/or American Communists who will hoist the Viet Cong flag at independence hall on July 4th (of 1976 0f course).
I’m not sure which concerns me more…that, the millions of flagrant sex acts being conducted on every street corner being witnessed by thousands by 1974, or that at the going rate, we will run out of food by 1984. id start rationing now just in case.
also, as you may know, UFOs are flown by demons. They were following the First Apollo spacecraft in their “chariots of fire”. chilling!
i was also very enlightened in finding out that there were more earthquakes between 1950 and 1968 than there were in the history of the earth….
May 8, 2007 at 1:40 am
I believe that Jack van Impe is just like all the other televangelists, doing an act for the ratings (it’s all about the money!). The Roman Catholic empire worships Mary and statues of people they made into saints. They guard the Truth? Following Jesus and no other, is the true way to salvation! Read your bible and pray in the spirit…and the wisdom of The father will be given to you.
May 8, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Oh yes, I do believe that Catholics show more love and compassion than do Protestants in general, but lets face it, Priest go a little to far when they love the little childern! should I say more? No really, take away the money and the televangelist will disappear from your T.V. screen, just has Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Baker…
May 24, 2007 at 6:29 am
I have been watching Jack all my life, my Grandparents watched him too!! He is not the “Anti-Christ!!” And most of these people on here are dumb, especially the ones that say Mr. Van Impe is “dangerous!!” Beware of attacking servants of God!! Read Matthew chapter 24!!
May 28, 2007 at 2:40 am
Well if he is the antichrist he lost a follower when he got me to accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior back in the 80’s. I am eternally greatful for Rexella and Jack’s ministry or else I would be on my way to the place the antichrist will be when this whole thing is over. Thank you Jack and Rexella praise God for people who get people like me to listen and respond to the grace of God.
May 28, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Good point, Sharon.
Too many people pick on Christians. Expect them to be perfect.
How come no one ever accused Saddam, or Osama? The real evil people of our day.
June 9, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Christian:….. I felt the love jumping off the page after reading your comment. I know us dumb christians just don’t know any better, but if you can intellectually for me and the others, please give us your take on Psalms 22, being that it was written 1000 BC and 900 years before the Romans came into Israel to introduce crucifixion. I, with my intelligence fully intact, realize that something caused life. Afterall, what was the first animal to decide it needed kidneys to excrete waste. According to evolution, many animals must have died right after being “created” because they didn’t have any organs to filter nourishment and excrete bodily waste. Can’t tell me that right off the bat they developed these organs saying “hey, we need those”. As far as Jack Van Impe goes, he expects every christian to just be able to escape through the rapture. Read Ezekial 13:19-20 where God is plainly against false teachers who teach their flock “to fly”. People can’t escape the tribulation by the rapture, but can escape God’s judgment and then survive and stand in front of the Lord Jesus Christ when he returns.
June 9, 2007 at 11:38 pm
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This is for the person who would like to read something a little different
June 12, 2007 at 2:27 am
Well I have to tell you that Jack and Rexella are the real deal, they arn’t forceing anybody to do anything, They are simply asking you to make a choice. jack is winning souls for Christ and in this messed up world that we live in it is a breath of fresh air to here a man stand for Jesus Christ they wat that they do. so preach on brother Jack, I watch you show every Sunday Night and Iwill continue to watch. christ be with you
June 24, 2007 at 1:32 am
Check out the facts on the real id that will come into play May 12th 2008! Lowes keep building those 126,000 square foot stores with no windows since 2001, they boast 2 built every week. Keep your eyes open. Jesus is on his way! Repent, love the Lord Jesus Christ, and love one another! satan is on short time.
July 12, 2007 at 2:29 am
In order to get ready for eternity, you must follow these steps:
1. Admit to the fact that you’ve sinned and fallen short of the glory of God(Romans 3:23), and are in need of God’s forgiveness.
2. Believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross to take the punishment for your sins and rose from the dead on the third day to save you from the Lake of Fire, and that Jesus Christ is your only hope of Salvation.
3. Repent of(that means to turn away from) your sins and ask God to forgive you for your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
Pray this prayer if you don’t know how to pray:
““Father, I know that I have broken your laws and my sins have separated me from you. I am truly sorry, and now I want to turn away from my past sinful life toward you. Please forgive me, and help me avoid sinning again. I believe that your son, Jesus Christ died for my sins, was resurrected from the dead, is alive, and hears my prayer. I invite Jesus to become the Lord of my life, to rule and reign in my heart from this day forward. Please send your Holy Spirit to help me obey You, and to do Your will for the rest of my life. In Jesus’ name I pray, Amen.”
If you prayed that prayer and sincerely meant it, you are now a child of God and on your way to Heaven. Read your bible every day, pray to God everyday and pray your prayers in Jesus’ name(like you did in that prayer when it says “In Jesus’ name I pray”), and get into a good Bible-teaching church. God bless you!
July 22, 2007 at 4:48 pm
So if I follow the steps noted above and repent my sins I will be a child of God? Does this work for anybody? What about child molestors and murderers? Wow! This is an easy way to heaven. So let me recap: If I am a good person and don’t do anything wrong while I am alive and help people, donate to charities, and raise a loving and happy family but don’t happen to believe in religion, I go to hell. On the other hand I can live a life full of evil and as long as I say the above prayer before I die and read the Bible I get my ticket punched to heaven? Hmmm….seems a bit strange don’t you think?
July 31, 2007 at 11:11 pm
For years now, I have made a date with Jack & Rexella. I will continue to keep that date with them. If anyone wants to know the word of God, they can study it every day just as I try to do, so when you here ministers preach or teach you will know in your spirit man if there are any conflicting information you are hearing because the Holy Spirit will let you know. Keep on going Jack & Rexella; God Bless You
August 1, 2007 at 12:07 am
Peter, you are right. It does sound too good to believe, but it IS true. It’s not believing in religion, religion is man made. Religion is a form of worshipping God, but religion doesn’t get you to Heaven. Believing that Jesus was who He said He was, the Son of God, and that He came and died in YOUR place, taking the punishment YOU deserve, paying it in full and giving you a clean slate. When you believe that in you heart and mind, and you accept his gift of paying your sin debt, God the Father looks at you through His Son’s shed blood, and you are no longer guilty. People say if God is love he wouldn’t send anyone to Hell…but God DOESN’T send anyone to Hell…you send yourself by not believing and accepting the truth. God made the way easy. But men make it hard. The devil is busy at work trying to make you think this is foolishness. The devil doesn’t care what you believe, as long as it’s the wrong thing. And he’s been observing us for thousands of years and he knows how we think. He knows we’re selfish. He knows how to distract us to keep our focus away from God. I urge you, accept the TRUTH, accept CHRIST, to it today…there’s no guarantee any of us has a tomorrow. It will be the smartest decision you ever make…and those people that live evil al their lives and then at the last minute receive Christ…only God knows if they really do. Don’t let the devil fool you…Jesus said, “I am the Way and the Truth and the life..NO ONE gets to Heaven unless it is through ME.” Be smarter than the devil, Peter.
August 7, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Angel, you still have not addressed my point. I misused the term “religion” in my previous post. My point is that if you take two brothers, one grows up to become a child molestor but truly believes in God while the other brother does not share in those beliefs but does live a loving and caring life and provides for his family and friends. Why would the brother who was a much better person during his life be open to persecution? Also I don’t buy into the fact that a newly born child comes into this world a sinner. That is a most ridulous presumtion. I plan on living my life to be the best person that I can be and not be coerced by others who preach as though they know what is going to happen after I die. NO ONE KNOWS THAT! Perhaps nothing happens?
August 8, 2007 at 2:33 am
Peter, A child molestor that truly believes in God? What God is that? May I point out that even the Devil believes in God. He KNOWS he exists. You can see what someone “truly believes” by their behavior. A child molestor that doesn’t repent and change their ways, is obviously not following God. Believing in something in your mind is one thing. Receiving something into your heart changes your life. A perso who truly receives God into their heart would try to please God, would follow His teachings, and would always fight their temptation to sin, and when they do, they feel bad about and immediately ask God for forgiveness. Being the best you can be is admirable, but you will still sin and fall short of the standard for Heaven. God is perfect and Holy. He will not tolerate ANY sin. You have to be “sin free” in order to enter Heaven, therefore someone has to pay your sin debt. It’s either you pay it yourself, or you accept that Christ did it for you. Then when God looks at you, He sees you throught the Blood Christ shed for you, and you are no longer guilty of sin. The bottom line is you can be a great, wonderful, loving person, charitable, kind, etc. but you still will occassionally have an impure thought, mutter a curse word, get angry, etc. All those things have to be covered by the blood of Christ, or you will have to pay for your sin yourself.
August 10, 2007 at 11:58 am
So by your standards we are all going to sin but as long as we are a believer and repent each time we sin we get to go to heaven?
Again, it appears that you are trying to guilt me into believing something and telling me that no matter how good of a person I am, it is not good enough in the end. I’m sorry, I have never spoken to anyone that has made it to heaven so I cannot assume that what you believe is accurate.
Do all of God’s creatures go to heaven?
August 10, 2007 at 5:18 pm
These arn’t MY standards, they’re God’s. You have the mindset that you have to EARN your way into Heaven. That your performance plays a part.
The Bible teaches that men, in their natural state, are “children of wrath” (Ephesians 2:3). They are “children of the Devil” (1 John 3:10) and “children of disobedience (Ephesians 5:6). The popular notion that all men are fundamentally “children of God” is an uterly false and dangerous idea, completely without any basis in Scripture.
Why don’t you just pick up a Bible and read it? Don’t sort through it and believe some of things you like about it and not believe what you don’t like. It’s either all true or all a lie. And if Jesus Christ is NOT who he says he is, well, he’s the biggest liar of all.
Your last question, about the creatures, I don’t know. Maybe. If you love a pet, maybe God will allow you to have it in Heaven. I don’t know. I’d have to research it.
August 10, 2007 at 8:47 pm
The Bible was written by man. However, having said that, I do believe that one should try to live by the ten commandments as they do provide an excellent moral framework. There are too many conflicting books and teachings that were all written by men as a way to control societal behaviors.
August 10, 2007 at 11:51 pm
Peter, wrong again. The Bible was written by the Holy Spirit THROUGH men. No man could predict Jesus’s birth 2000 years before it happened with accuracy.or any of the other thousands of prophescies contained in the Bible.
Fight it if you want to, try to out think it if you can, come up with some other way that satisifies you, the fact still remains. the Bible is the TRUTH.
August 14, 2007 at 7:52 pm
How do you know it is the truth?
August 15, 2007 at 2:35 am
How do you know it’s not?
August 15, 2007 at 4:43 pm
I don’t. Which is why I don’t go around telling people it is not the truth because frankly…I don’t know and neither does anyone else.
August 15, 2007 at 9:57 pm
I just think you like to fight with people.
August 17, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Actually it is not my nature to fight. I’m actually very easy to get along with. Unfortunately, religion is a subject which touches many nerves with people because of the disparity of belief systems out there and as a result it ends up many times becoming argumentative and to the extreme, results in global chaos and wars. No harm intended here, just differences of opinion.
August 17, 2007 at 4:23 pm
No offense taken. Your questions orginally seemed as if you were searching for God, but now I think you were ejoying discussion and banter.
I hope you understand that religion is man made. Religion is MAN’S way of serving God. The Bible is merely God’s WORD to us. We either choose to believe it or not. The choice, however, bears with it a consequence. So it ultimately DOES matter what you believe.
Don’t you also think it’s funny that if God doesn’t exist, why is that people always want to serve some kind of God? Do you think that maybe God created us to look for him? Why else would ever culture everywhere had some kind of God?
August 17, 2007 at 4:25 pm
I really messed up that last line. I meant: Why else would every culture everywhere have some kind of God?
August 18, 2007 at 6:43 am
In order to really understand how repentence works and why we need to accept Jesus, you must be able to answer these questions. Why do we even HAVE to make a choice? Why would God create us if it is to only make us choose to follow his Son or not? When was Lucifer sentenced to death and for what? Don’t say “pride” because pride on its own is nothing. It’s what pride makes you do. It’s what pride made Lucifer do. What was Lucifer’s sin and when was it committed? Isaiah 14:12-14 deals with that, but it doesn’t mention when it happened.
Since the time of Adam Lucifer has been the antagonist. So it must have been before Adam was created, hence before this very age. Anyone can tell that the Earth is not six thousand years old. We are finding animal bones from many thousands of years ago. Who was the congregation spoken of in Isaiah? We were. As it says in Ecclesiastes 1:9, “there is no new thing under the sun.” What will Lucifer do when he is kicked down to Earth? He will try to convince all he is God. How? Logic would dictate that he perform great signs and wonders. Do miraculous things. How did he try to convince the congregation he was as high as God before the time of Adam? He probably performed great signs and wonders and miracles. There is no new thing under the sun.
When the disciples asked Jesus in Matt 24:3 when he would return and the signs of the end of the world, that word “world” there in the original greek is “aion” which actually means “age”. They were asking the end of the age, not world. That states that when Jesus returns, it is the end of this age. Revelation does speak specifically of a thousand year period after his return where Jesus would reign, while Lucifer would be in the Bottomless Pit. Then after the thousand years are up, Jesus and his saints (anyone who has made the right choice in this age or in the first one) so Satan can try to deceive the world once again.
Paul was taken up to the third heaven, but obviously there aren’t three heavens. He was taken up into the third age. Why do we have to make a choice? God created us in the LAST age. Lucifer exalted himself as high as God before us and most of our creation bowed our knee to him. Read Romans 11:4-5. Ba’al was a fertility god, but was also the deity of Venus. Lucifer in hebrew means “morning star”. What is the morning star? Venus. How did they come up with the name Ba’alzebub? God destroyed the last age and sentenced Lucifer to death but would not fulfill it until God could give us chances to make the right choice after our failure in the last age. Afterall, God also could have sentenced to death all of those who followed Lucifer, and even those who may have bowed their knee and repented later.
The seven thousand who did not bow their knee might have been the only ones allowed to exist, body and soul after that. Why should you repent and accept Jesus? Because you turned your back on God in the last age, and instead of erasing your very existance he gave you another chance, and by giving this creation another chance he made himself human and died a horrible death for our sins, past and present.
Even though God gave all another chance, and will yet give another chance in the next age, He couldn’t make it easy for us for our crime of bowing to another. That’s why he made laws to directly conflict with human instincts. He would make it difficult for us to humble ourselves before him, especially in the last days.
The very few who never bowed to Lucifer in the last age had to live in this age as well, because without them this creation would have no chance being in human bodies and with the supergenius of Lucifer. Those are the anointed in this age. As God said to Jeremiah, “I knew you before you were in the womb”. Considering what Jeremiah did and what he was (a prophet), he must have been chosen. What did Jeremiah do before he lived in this age that made God choose him? God wouldn’t just choose any soul at random. It’s because he was one of the seven thousand who did not bow their knee to Lucifer in the last age. Read what I wrote with a clear head and do some soul searching.
Read and study all about Psalms 22 and contradict that? Can’t do it. History shows it was written around 1000 BC. That’s about 900 years before the Romans came in. The jews knew nothing of crucifixion before the Romans came in. That’s why when Jesus said “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”, it wasn’t a sin. Jesus was saying “read Psalms 22 and know who I am.” He wasn’t talking to God, he was talking to us.
September 20, 2007 at 1:58 am
God Bless Jack, Rexella and Chuck
September 26, 2007 at 4:27 pm
I am doing a report on peace after death I would apprieciate your input and thoughts thank you.God bless
September 26, 2007 at 4:50 pm
Mathew 13:11 He replied, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.
12 Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.
hes saying if you know the truth of him and seek it you will learn more but if u seek not you will know not everything is done in his time he is the head and we will learn what he wants us to when he wants us to know it. praise god
then he goes on to say:
Mathew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
The barn is the kingdom and did he not say to gather the weeds first but yet last gather the children of the king.
1 corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
That last verse denotes that on specifically the last trump. then back to
Mathew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
huh it says the end of the world those last few verses show the end of the world threw the mouth of our lord jesus christ and savior. Thank you jesus
if u have any thoughts on this i would love to hear them my e-mail is idiot12291@yahoo.com message me sometime i’d be blessed with your response
p.s. I LOVE JESUS, peter publicaly admitted it why can’t we?
September 27, 2007 at 7:13 pm
In Matthew 13:40 the word “world” in the original greek is “aion” which means age, not world. As far as the peace after life is over Paul did refer to his own death as “to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord” which means as soon as death comes, our souls travel through space to the destination of heaven. When a person dies and in the rare occasion they are brought back to life, the common thing seen among them is a tunnel of white light. If you imagine travelling through space many times the speed of light and having planets, stars, galaxies, and other heavenly bodies soaring past you it would create this tunnel of white light.
September 28, 2007 at 3:43 pm
so that and then last trump means that its calling to the end of the church age.
September 28, 2007 at 3:46 pm
yes i knew of paul saying that but i was thinking that we would meet him in the sky as it says in 1 thessolonians, you know like that song ” there is going to be a meeting in the air , that sweet sweet by and bye” old gospel music.
October 2, 2007 at 9:15 am
only very few of our creation will be raptured though. it’s not most christians like what we keep being taught says. it says God’s elect will have their days shortened, not christians. God’s elect are people God chose before this age to become prophets, disciples and so forth. In the last generation most of God’s elect will be alive and with about five months left of the tribulation they will be raptured up. Read Romans 8 and 11 and find out who God’s elect is and how many there are in this entire age. The reason why the elect only will be raptured is because they didn’t make the wrong choice as it is said in Romans 11. Only 7000 of them exist. They won’t need to be here anymore. They will do miracles and testify in Satan’s synogogues. After that, their job will be done. While nearly all are here to make a choice, God’s elect are here to help this creation make the right choice. God’s elect is God’s choice, not man’s. A man choosing to be a christian is that man or woman’s election to God, not God to them. Remember also it says that the blowing of the last trump will take away any mystery. If all of a sudden millions of christians are gone before the tribulation starts, wouldn’t the mystery be gone? God will send his angels to gather his elect from the four winds. Not nearly all christians.
October 3, 2007 at 3:47 pm
but wouldnt that be teh 144,000?
Psalms 91:7 a thousnd shall fall at thy side and ten thousand at thy right hand but none shall draw nigh thee.
October 3, 2007 at 8:58 pm
No, as it’s said according to Revelation they are still here. They are the only ones the fallen angels can’t torment on Earth. The 144,000 are all jews, 12000 of each tribe. They are left here to make Jerusalem ready for Jesus’ return. The 144,000 are basically like the ones who made a path into Jerusalem while Jesus rode on the ass who said “Hosanna to the son of David. Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest.”
Read in Ezekial 13 where God condemns false teachers for teaching their flock on “how to fly”. The reason why that’s a wrong teaching is because most christians by far remain here, and only God’s elect will have their days shortened during the tribulation. The reason why all men are tormented by the fallen angels is because God’s elect aren’t here anymore to give guidance to those on Earth. God takes his elect away and let’s this creation make their choice. Read about the end of the next age where Jesus and all his saints leave Earth once again while Lucifer is released from his prison of the Bottomless Pit. That’s so the ones who made the wrong choice will have one last chance to keep their faith. The teachers should be preparing their flocks to face this time and help those whose faith isn’t as strong or nonexistent to help guide them to righteousness in the face of Lucifer’s cunning attempts at having them bow to him.
October 4, 2007 at 2:47 pm
He is not at all the anti-Christ and your article is mostly others opinions. He disagrees with alot of what most churches allow. He talks peace and backs up things by The Word of the bible. Read the bible to find more information on the anti-Christ. Don’t be so ready to attack someone and weaken someone’s faith.
October 4, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Oh yeah, a house it against its self will fall. He’s for Christ, so he is not the anti-Christ. He speaks of Christ as the savior and not himself. That should be it.
October 23, 2007 at 1:18 am
hello all
i enjoyed reading a few of these thoughts, but so meny people nowadays think that if they go to church for the hour of worship that that all they need to do to receive GODs gife of eturnal life. but ill bet that a vast majority of these so called beleivers, follow evolution,read porn, get drunk every night, yell at there kids, abuse there families and so on….but rest assured there are really onlly two options…you either beleive in Jesus 100 percent, (that means ALWAYS) or your not a beleiver, i dont think you can fool Jesus by only being a part time beleiver, he know all, you have to talk to him all the time, and ask for his forgiveness….as in previous emails, YES a murder can go to heaven by true repenting his/her crime and asking the lord to come into there heart as there personal savior. i hear all the time people who think its ok to lie, that its not as important enough to confess, but i got news for all you liers, God dont like it when you lie, and youll burn along side a murder if you dont repent, lyinis in the commandments, it called bering false witness (lying) so your options are….beleive 100 percent all the time, and defend Jesus and pray to him constintly, or…burn..the devil is here on earth and like they say, his greatest trick is to get you to beleive he doesnt exsist..so in conclusion, read the bible daily, or as i do, find a good dvd or cd and listen at work or on the road. jack and rexela only wish to spread the true word of GOD, if you dought then, look up the verses they are quoting, i have and its word for word..so as for this trash article, i respect your opinion, that why the USA is so great, read the BIBLE, over and over again, each time youll get something new, the BIBLE is not someones opion but the true word of GOD…
my GOD bless everyone, and ill pray for all non-believers…
October 24, 2007 at 11:14 pm
I must say, regarding all your comments, that although I love watching JV, I’m a little concerned about his views on Muslims. He never condems their false faith, rather, he has now started quoting the Quo’ran regarding Iran?!? I love Jesus, and will continue to watch their show…but I’m starting to check out what he says against the Word of God…BIBLE!
October 25, 2007 at 3:18 pm
Hey truth, you spelled many wrong. You said meny. That’s not right. Along with other stuff. You need to refresh the core. Kelsall, who are you? Don’t be concerned about JV not condemin the muslins. Everyone knows muslims suck. Even JV. He’s just being nice to the ACLU doesn’t shut him down. God knows they’re the worst thing that ever happened to this country. God created Hell for the ACLU and muslems.
October 28, 2007 at 5:28 am
The reason why he doesn’t condemn the muslims for their actions is because he is PC. The ACLU, as much as I find them to be an anti-American and anti-Christian group, cannot shut down Jack’s show. As long as he has money and networks willing to air his show, he will be on tv. Vick, you shouldn’t criticize someone’s misspelling especially since you misspelled “condemin” and “muslins”. I know of very smart people who can’t spell very well so there’s no reason for that. Everyone has problems with typos from time to time also.
As much as I’m critical of Jack Van Impe’s teachings, because I know millions of people just aren’t going to be raptured away any day, it’s not his job to say those who believe in Islam believe in a false religion. Those who do that should really worry about teaching what is right with Christianity. Many teachers have huge problems with teaching what is right about Christianity so therefore they talk about what is wrong about other religions. What good does that do?
October 29, 2007 at 9:45 am
WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE ACCORDION? IS IT BECAUSE JACK V. PLAYS ONE? OR WOULD YOU LIKE THE GUY IF HE WAS A HIP JAZZ GUITARIST INSTEAD? ONE CAN PLAY SOME OF THE BEST JAZZ/CLASSICAL MUSIC THAT ONE CAN IMAGINE ON THE ACCORDION. THE “SQUEEZ BOX” IS A “HIP” INSTRUMENT. I FEEL THAT THESE JUDGEMENTS THAT ARE PASSED ON THIS PREACHER AND THAN RABBI AND THAT MINISTER IS NOT COMING FROM A GOOD PLACE. I’M WAITING TO READ THE NEXT BAD THING TO COME UP IN THESE SEARCHES LIKE MAYBE THE BIBLE IS NOT REALLY THE BIBLE BECAUSE SOMEONE SAID THE BIBLE IS THE BIBLE. ON AND ON…..
October 29, 2007 at 3:28 pm
You’re all nuts if you believe in a Rapture to take you away from the Tribulation. Gird Yourself in Truth; put on the Armour of God; Shield, Helmut, Breastplate etc (Ephesians). Do you think we are directed to do this so we can be plucked out prior to needing it most. You folks who are solo scripture (Bible Alone) are in for a big surprise when that one legged philosophy topples over. When are we all changed…ALL…at the same time…not some before and after…ALL…to include non believers…..AT THE LAST TRUMP…that is #7….FYI…Antichrist is alive and well at #6. If your going to be SOLO SCRIPTURA at least read for comprehension. God doesn’t want any wussies! Stand up and be counted!
October 29, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,
I am also a viewer of brother Van Impe’s and Rexella’s program, and while I do thank the Lord for using them to bring others to Christ (very ‘few’ preachers on television today do those altar calls any more.), I also found it strange when he said that the earth ‘would not’ be destroyed.
I’ve written to his ministry twice to try to see if he could give some ‘clarity’ on what he said and why he said it, as the Bible plainly states in Rev. 21:1 “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth did pass away”.
It also says in Matthew 24:35, “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away”. All I can think of is either he mis-spoke about the earth ‘not’ being destroyed, or maybe he had something totally ‘different’ in mind.
I’m hoping and praying that he will address the ‘issue’ soon, but even if he doesn’t (and as others here have said), I still stand on the word of God and ‘His’ word is true, and ultimately what He says goes.
I do thank the Lord for Doctor Van Impe having an altar call at the end of each and ‘every’ program, and will continue to pray for him and his family (and others in his ministry as well) as they continue to spread God’s word (as I also do for Carlton Pearson, Jay Bakker, Joel Olsteen, and others too.), and hope that everyone here will do the same.
May we “all” remember, it’s not about us, it’s about spreading the gospel, leading others to Christ, reading God’s word, and being holy and blameless when Christ returns. May God be with and have mercy on us all.
October 30, 2007 at 1:39 am
IV’E BEEN WATCHING JACK AND REXELLA THEY SEEM TO ME TO BE GOOD PEOPLE LETTING THE WORLD KNOW THAT JESUS IS NEAR. I DON’T THINK THAT HE COULD BE THE ANTICHRIST.
October 30, 2007 at 2:14 am
He’s been claiming signs of the end of the world for a very long time. Seem like he takes the bible and gives it his own interpretation, which by the way, I think is not valid. He tries to relate events happening at the moment to verses in the bible and claim that they are signs of the apocalypse. He did that when Y2K was coming; I would have expected people to stop watching him after nothing happened on January 1st 2000, but seems that is audience is very forgiving.
Remember the following:
“For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.” (Mark 13:22-23)
“But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.” (Mark 13:32-33)
October 30, 2007 at 5:35 am
Well said, Dan. My only problem with what you said is that it does say the elect will have their days shortened. God will send his angels to gather the elect from the four winds. The number of them as it says in Romans chapter 11 is less than seven thousand. When they are done with their work, with five months left of the tribulation they will be raptured. While nearly all are here to make a choice, the elect are only here to help the rest make the right choice. When they have done their work, God will take them away and leave the rest to make their decision. This happens also at the end of the next age where Jesus and all his saints leave while letting Satan loose to tempt those left on Earth.
October 31, 2007 at 6:39 am
I have allways found it hard to fathom why anyone would believe in something as obviously silly as god and religion in the first place. It really doesnt seem to have anything to do with intelligence I have met some highly intelligent very religious people. People just seem to want to follow others like this,Jesus (if he ever existed),Hitler,Robertson,and Van Impe.They all have many things in common one of which is that they all claim a direct hotline to someone they say is all powerful and created everything yet never directly shows himself and left no trace of his existance.That is really not my point however. The point is that Van Impe is the used car salesman of the family of great leaders and fringe lunatics that include the prevously mentioned Jesus and Hitler. If you want to be co-dependant on a fictional being at least pick someone other than the George bush of religion to listen to as his messenger.
October 31, 2007 at 3:59 pm
“Man is condemned to be free;
Because once thrown into the world,
He is responsible for everything he does
You remember all we were told about the torture-chambers,
The fire and brimstone, the ‘burning marl’.
Old wives’ tales!
There’s no need for red-hot pokers.
Hell is other people!
Man can will nothing unless he has first understood
That he must count on no one but himself;
That he is alone, abandoned on earth
In the midst of his infinite responsibilities,
Without help,
With no other aim that the one he sets himself,
With no other destiny than the one he forges for himself on this earth”
– Jean-Paul Sartre
October 31, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Billy, it would take a lot of strength to believe that philosphy. It paints such a hopeless existance.
No thanks. I’ll believe in my tomorrow with Jesus Christ. I’ll believe that life goes on and all His promises are true. I have Faith, and Hope, and I know that love never dies…..and neither do we.
October 31, 2007 at 7:53 pm
You nailed it,Angel.
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
Jake
November 1, 2007 at 5:07 am
Jean-Paul Sartre. I will have to read more on that. It does take strength do believe in that philosphy. I will take strength to see reality over false belief in god any day. Its just personal preference I guess. In reality at heart I am an agnostic. We cant rule out the possibility of god since science cant prove a negative no matter how strange the positive is. As far as exsistance being hopeless,I dont see that at all life just is what it is a meaningless accident, a product of the law of evolution.
November 1, 2007 at 6:09 am
Bro. Jack I really believe what you said about church growing people tonight 10 31 07 we need more good preaching like that see you in heaven some day
November 1, 2007 at 2:39 pm
Thank you, Jake. I’m glad you agree.
Robert, How can you say belief in God is a false belief, when in the same paragraph you say “science can’t prove He doesn’t exist?” Life is a meaningless accident, a product of evolution? C’mon. I find it easier to believe in a Creator than believing I crawled up out of the slime. Evolution is a THEORY. It’s not proven, either.
Your life doesn’t have to be hopeless and meaningless. You were created for a purpose. Quit ignoring your creator and you just might find what will fill the hole in your heart.
November 1, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Evolution is not a theory it never was. It is no more a theory than gravity. It is a law that was discovered not a theory that was formulated. And just like gravity we dont understand it entirely yet. Are you going to say gravity hasnt been proven? We can see the process of evolution acting on things just like we see gravity acting on things. Why is it so hard to accept that life is random, an incidental set of chemical reactions? We ignore the proof right in front of us and make up god to fill in what we dont understand. I wont rule out the existance of a creator no matter how strange the idea is to me because it is possible but so is time travel.
November 1, 2007 at 3:37 pm
P.S. And how wonderful is it that man scraped and clawed his way from the promordial oceans over the eons, surviving endless disasters and trials and in just so short time scale by universal standards created all that we have, delved into the secrets of the universe, left our world and visited the nearest planet, split the atom,
and countless other achievements when just 10,000 years ago we lived in caves! I think we are doing good on our own.
November 1, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Jack Van Impe and Rexella are must see TV. The best unintentional comedy duo on Christian TV, where there are MANY worthy challengers (John Hagee). Their program is so widely absurd that I just can not get enough. Long live Jack and Rex! Or at least long live until JC returns, which of course, we all know is imminent. A day is a thousand years…
November 1, 2007 at 8:37 pm
I have to agree with that. Its like a car accident that you have to watch. I just cant believe what I am seeing.
November 1, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Van Impe is just one of a number of rapture con men on TV. To see how, when, and by whom his (pre-tribulation) rapture view began, Google “Pretrib Rapture Diehards.” If interested in “clusterbomb” rapture articles, Google the “Powered by Christ Ministries” site and read MacPherson’s stuff including “Pretrib Rapture Desperados.” If you’re really ape for all of the rapture’s historical dirty linen (thoroughly documented), read “The Rapture Plot” (Armageddon Books) – 300 shocking, readable pages for only about 14 bucks! Van Impe, LaHaye, Lindsey, Ice, and the rest of the money-grubbing hucksters definitely do NOT want you to read the above material for obvious reasons! Check ’em out. Marge
November 1, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Robert – PALEEZE!!! Evolution is no more a theory than gravity???? That doesn’t even make sense. Yes, gravity can be proven by jumping off a bridge, but evolution? We obviously must’ve stopped evolving because I don’t see any “men in the middle”. Is there a bunch of people out there somewhere still in some stage of evolution? Or did we all progress at the same rate? And just when did that happen?? What’s the difining time when all of a sudden we’re not somthing else, but what we are now? Evolution is the stupidest THEORY I’ve ever heard. It’s such a stretch I can’t believe people can be so DECEIVED they buy into it.
Oh yeah, we’re doing real good on our own. There’s so much sin and chaos in the world it’s a fright to read turn on the news. Broken homes abounding, abortions, nation rising against nation, child porn, alcoholisim, kids killing kids, yeah, it’s a real haven this world, isn’t it? And you know WHY it’s like that?? Because people have forgotten God. They worship the creature instead of the creator! It’s all about YOU…the biggest slogan of our day. Go ahead and worship your universe and believe in all the craziness you do. I’ll keep on believing in my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And Robert, one day, you’ll wish you would’ve.
November 2, 2007 at 4:40 am
You are missing the point gravity is not a theory either it is not something that has to be proven! What about gravity is a theory? Its a LAW NOT A THEORY. Im going to go test the theory that murder is illegal and the theory of the speed limit. What you are saying is nonsense. It is the tipical skewing of science that comes up with things like a creationism museum. I mean come on! You can see evolution all around you. Man has even taken part in it by domestication of animals. We share 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees. That is a fact check it out. Also what do you expect to see in the middle to prove the law of evolution,something in the middle of man and what? Because there are plenty of things out there.How do you explain more that one species in a genus. What is the purpose of an elephant, was god just having fun? What does an elepant do for creation? It doesnt pollinate anything. Why is it here, for what purpose? To fertilize soil? Cows do that and so do we. Why would god say I need this funny looking animal here that looks strangly like a small mammoth without hair a mammoth that looked like a small mastodon. Oh wait! that would make a mammoth a missing link wouldnt it. Funny because we have dug complete mammoths up from the ice and tested there DNA and wierd they seem to be related to elephants but how is that if they dont look identical and evolution is silly.
Broken homes, war, child porn,alcoholisim and killing have been going on for all of history. Kain killed his own brother! What is different now. You say people have forgotten god well when did they ever remember him! Tell me when has there been total peace on earth, no drugs, war or crime? When gods own son supposedly walked the earth? No, we murdered him too. Well thats two thousand years ago and we still murder people now.
November 2, 2007 at 4:53 am
Oh and on the case of men in the middle. What makes you think we are all the same. We dont even look all the same. We are in the middle of evolution now unless I have something wrong with me and africans and europeans and the chinese actually all look alike. Why is it that there are dark skinned and light skinned people but god created all of us as elderly white haired europeans in his image.
November 2, 2007 at 7:13 am
Hey Robert, explain to us your impression of Psalm 22. Being that the Jews knew nothing of crucifixion until the Romans came in 76 BC and Psalms being written in 1000 BC. If you were as educated as you think you are, then you could read in the Hebrew where Adam wasn’t white. His name actually means “showing blood in the face”, showing his complexion. We weren’t all descended from Adam. There are other races, but God only mention the race of Adam being created because that is the race he would choose the Messiah to come from. When Cain went east into the land of Nod and took a wife, their children were called “kenites”. The kenites were the start of a new race. If Cain and his wife were of the same race, then why mention a new race? You’re typical of those of your ilk who think you’re really educated on this subject but really know nothing about it.
November 2, 2007 at 7:24 am
One more thing, evolution is a theory. A theory that the creator of the theory didn’t even believe in. Those bones we keep finding that supposedly are our ancestors… tell me why when they do repeated DNA tests on them that the findings are always showing they are not related to us in any way? Especially since chimpanzees are close to us DNA-wise, why does the DNA on these bones show no connection? If evolution is correct, then how come there are still cockroaches, dogs, birds, fish and all that? If evolution is real, then shouldn’t they be evolved? How could they decide “okay, I’ll move up a species, but you stay here as the reptile you are”?
November 2, 2007 at 10:32 am
Bravo, Jesse! You made my day!
November 2, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Jesse- Yes I must admit that I dont know a lot about the bible.I was not aware of those facts but that will change because to have an intelligent disscussion like this I must know more, however it is also obvious that you dont know much about evolution. It seems from your thinking that you think evolution is a march forwared towards something higher on some type of arbitrary ranking of species. That is not the case as evolution doesnt try to say that one species is higher than another in that way. How would you rank a species? If it is intelligence then we are probably on the top, if it is stength or life span or some other method then no we are no where near the top. Evolution says that species change via natural selection not that they are moving towards some “higher form” roaches are here because they are successful as is not because they cant evolve. Darwin did not have a theory of evolution it was natural selection, the process that causes evolution. When I say evolution is a law I am not saying that it is a fact that is totally correct. I am saying that it is classified as a law in the same way as magnetism or motion.The only theory is evolution by natural selection,as comparable to magnetism by electical fields. There is no dispute that it happens at all. If if doesnt then why isnt there only one kind of bird or tree. The dispute is how and why. Evolution and creation dont have to be mutally exclusive. But the specific facts of one of them must be wrong. Perhaps our time scale is not correct or the way we associate species, or the bible isnt correct I dont know. Of course I have my thoughts on the subject but I very easily could be WAY off base. If I didnt learn better I could easily believe the world is flat. Also are you saying that god only created one race? Or there is a gap between creation of humans and adam? I was allways told in school that Adam was the first man and Eve was created from him. If this was so how did we get other races without evolution.
November 2, 2007 at 10:45 pm
I’ve seen their show a few times and while it does not particularly appeal to me, some of the other televangelists do. I’m not sure how I feel about the whole rapture thing. It was not taught until the 1800s, so that makes it a kind of Johnny come lately doctrine associated with the whole Pentecostal movement.
The book of Revelation is prophecy using all kinds of allegory and symbolism which we don’t understand until it hits us in the face. Some symbols are clearly drawn from the other prophetic writings and if you haven’t studied Daniel, you aren’t even ready to read Revelation.
Van Impe the anti-Christ? Nah, no chance.
November 2, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Evolution? In concept, no problem. My daughter has feet twice the size of her great grandmothers’. That is evolution. Did God make man outright or did he make some other things that turned into man? Doesn’t even matter. The universe and its mysteries are so vast and so great and none of these little picayune arguments matter in the grand scheme when it comes to faith, because you either have it or you don’t. I know that one way or another, God is responsible for all creation. How he did it is above my pay grade and need to know. I think I will find out someday.
To me, a far more fascinating question is: Did God make folks on other planets and did he send Jesus to them? If we are raptured, will they be raptured at the same time? Are they even carbon based if they exist?
November 3, 2007 at 6:32 am
Yes it is about species advancing, hence the word “evolution”. Who is the last species to have evolved according to evolution? The human species, right? Who is the most advanced species? Of course it’s the human species. We are the first species to be able to find ways of keeping ourselves alive through healing. It’s not just intelligence. It’s our hands that sets us apart also.
I know what is taught about Adam and Eve and it’s wrong. God created Adam and the other races on the sixth day. There is a reason why Adam in the Hebrew means “ruddy complected”. God was talking of his race. That’s why when Cain went into the land of Nod and married and had children that there was a new race born called the “kenites”. Cain’s wife was of a different race, otherwise why mention a new one? The reason why Adam was the only one mentioned is because he was the only one pertinent. The reason why Eve is called the mother of all living is because to the Jews she is the mother of all living. God created blacks, arabs, chinese, caucasian, indian, and other races on the 6th day. From where the Garden of Eden probably was, Cain probably married an arab woman. The kenites would later mix in with the Jewish population. They would take Jewish names and surnames. They would even be appointed to be scribes. If you go by traditional or denominational teaching, then you’ll go nowhere. Sadly most people can’t even make the connection between Psalm 22 and what Jesus said on the cross. I’ve read the bible intently and I know it’s real. When you learn without the handicap of what others have said about it, you will see it’s real too. Read with your mind open and ask God for guidance. It worked for me.
Mrs. DJ, Revelation isn’t really all that hard. Most of it isn’t symbollic really. I’d say 75% of the book of Revelation is written somewhere with more depth in the Old Testament. Like Revelation chapter 17 links to Daniel chapter 7. Revelation chapter 18 links to Jeremiah 50-51. Rev. 20-22 goes with Ezekial 40-48. In the greek, antichrist doesn’t mean “against Christ”, it means “a substitute for Christ”. Meaning the antichrist will not be the real Christ, but he will try to convince all that he is. Then halfway through the tribulation the antichrist will die. Three days later he will seemingly rise again when the war in heaven kicks Satan down to Earth. What we will see then is not the antichrist risen, but Satan in the flesh. Revelation takes some work, but it’s really not that difficult when you take in the teachings of the prophets of the Old Testament. You read it on its own and you have no chance of understanding it.
November 3, 2007 at 9:59 am
Jesse. I’ve enjoyed your last posts and it’s made me want to study prophecy and rvelation even more.
What do you think about present day prophets? When Mrs.DJ mentioned the rapture being part of the pentecostal movement, how do you view that?
I’m asking because I’m searching for some personal answers. There is a great divide going on in the church I am presently attending, and it pains me to see walls come between people who all claim to love the Lord but because of their differences they leave the church.
November 4, 2007 at 1:41 am
http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Evolutionary_ladder
There is no such thing as the evolutionary ladder. It is a tree with simple single celled organisms at the bottom and humans on the outer leaves. Our brains dont put us above other organisms. We are on a branch with other primates adjacent to neanderthal which actually had slightly larger brains that we do. It is about features that are best suited to the enviroment not intelligence. It remains to be proven if intelligence is a superior trait to traits of other animals. The newest species is not humans it is actualy some species of whale.
November 4, 2007 at 10:03 am
Robert, then how come monkeys don’t build ships that go to outer space? How do scientists know that this species of whale is the newest species? If you mean it’s the newest one found, they found a coelacanth that was supposedly extinct, so what is found most recently doesn’t matter at all. They also discovered the giant squid isn’t just a legend afterall. Scientists will be finding new things 500 years from now if they could and it won’t be because their species just started.
Thanks for the compliment, Angel. Differing opinions shouldn’t divide people in the church. If your church is teaching something looney, then maybe you should stop going to that particular church. I don’t go to church. I read on my own. I use an Old King James version with Strong’s Exhaustive Corcordance of the Bible and I learn more than they can. If you don’t have a Stong’s Exhaustive Concordance, then I suggest you get one. It’s an incredible book. Has every word written in the KJV and it shows everytime each word shows up. It also tells you the book, chapter, and verse of each time each words shows up as well as gives the surrounding text. Then the number to the right coordinates with the dictionaries in the back. If the number is in regular print, then that word there in that particular verse is from the Old Testament, and it goes to the Hebrew dictionary in the back. If the number is italicized, then it’s from the New Testament and it goes to the Greek dictionary in the back. Since the Old and New Testaments were originally written in Hebrew and Greek, this dictionary tells you what the word really was before the translation. Hence, with the Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance you really have the original Bible at your disposal without any fear of mistranslations. Plus it gives the Hebrew and Greek writing and pronunciation as well. A must have.
Remember in Revelation that Jesus is against five of the seven churches of Christ. The two he finds no fault in don’t exist yet. Jesus was also against traditional teachings. Learn on your own. If church is something for you to do socially and want to be there for others, then keep going but read on your own. Learning through traditional teaching or denominational teaching will only handicap your learning. Always ask God for guidance as you learn.
As far as modern day prophets go, if indeed this is the last generation, then there are more prophets living right now than ever before. The modern day prophets are here to help this generation make the right choice and to give testimony in the synagogues of Satan. They will be mouthpieces for the Holy Spirit. The day of Pentecost is the day when these prophets will be given their abilities to heal, prophecy as well as other gifts to use on others. These prophets are no lower than Elijah, Ezekial, Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah or the disciples, but they will be this generation’s servants if indeed this is the last generation of this age.
As I stated before, when there is talk of shortening of the days, it’s always talking about the elect. As it says in Romans 11, there is less than 7000 left of the elect. According to Revelation, Satan’s angels will have all power to torment the people of Earth for five months. That’s because God’s elect won’t be here anymore. Their days were shortened. As Dan well said, why would God tell us to strengthen ourselves if we just get to escape? I know I’ll be here. I have things to do. I have no idea why people think they have done something so special that God would decide that they just get to escape the whole thing. It’s the blowing of the LAST trump where God’s mystery will be done. If millions of people are gone tomorrow, what mystery will be left?
November 4, 2007 at 10:31 am
Angel, I misunderstood part of your question about the Pentecostal movement. Yeah, the rapture is really a pretty recent teaching. But the Bible does clearly speak of the days shortening for the elect. It’s also given examples in the Old Testament about people being raptured. Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. Enoch never died for God took him. How did God take them?
I believe UFO’s are how the angels travel through space. The circular object Ezekial saw was the color of amber, but that word “amber” in the original Hebrew is the word “khashmal” which means “bronze” or “polished spectrum metal”. There were no manmade objects like that at that time obviously. There also will be a war in heaven as it’s said in Revelation. God travelled in a cloud to guide Moses and the Israelites through the desert for forty years. While the rapture is a recent teaching, I do believe in it as far as it’s only for God’s elect and it’s near the end of the tribulation period. Being for all christians… not even close. Have to be prepared. Those christians will be here thinking “why didn’t God rapture us?” Let’s see how that affects their faith.
November 5, 2007 at 1:07 am
That comment about UFOs is interresting. I allways thought that if any of this did exist that is how it would be.
About the monkeys, this is a little complicated. There is no debate that even as far as evolution is concerned humans are a special case because really our intelligence doesnt mean we are above any other animal. We are no more less or more evolved that any other species on our branch, why you keep gravitating to intelligence I can understand because it does mean ultimatly we can do anything any other animal can do and more because of technology; however, evolution has nothing to do with technology. I was shocked to read about the UFO theory. It would seem that you are more free thinking than I thought. Knowing what I know about science and the little I know about religion it would seem that the incompatibility between the bible and evolution is not as big as it seems. I urge you to learn more about it as you have I will religion.
November 5, 2007 at 5:20 am
There are a lot of things the Bible speaks of that isn’t taught. As I stated in a previous post, this isn’t the first age. Paul when he was stoned was taken up to the third heaven which really means the third age. There is a whole 1000+ year period written of in Revelation after Jesus’ return. Many times in the New Testament the word “world” is really “aion” which in the Greek means age.
I have to be free-thinking in order to find the truth in things. I’ve learned much about the true word of God. The UFO theory really has no other explanation than what I said. Just because it’s not taught it doesn’t mean it’s not right. Let the so-called Christian experts explain how God travelled with Moses, the craft Ezekial saw, or how the war in heaven will be fought, not to mention the taking of Enoch and Elijah. The war in heaven is not symbollic either, because it later says that “Satan has come DOWN on you…”
My real impression of evolution because I have a pretty good understanding of God, I really believe he made these creatures to look like they are linked just so the proud intellectuals can say “look, this is how we came about”. When Jesus returns we all sing the song of Moses, which is in Deuteronomy 32. This chapter does deal with, in my opinion, this generation’s belief in evolution. As I stated in a previous post, because of what our creation did before, God isn’t going to make this easy for us. That’s why it says many times to humble yourselves before God. If you can’t humble yourselves, then you will have a low ceiling in learning. Keep an open mind. There is a lot to learn. Any questions you have, I will try to help as best as I can.
November 7, 2007 at 1:34 am
I’ve recently started to watch the Jack Van Impe show late saturday nights, and I’m impressed. Watching his show has actually got me praying to be born again, to be renewed – its got me excited about the bible, excited about studying God’s word and what’s going on in today’s world. I can’t understand why someone would say that he’s “ANTICHRIST WORTHY”. I’m 18 years old, ex-drugaddict and have been brought out of satanic lifestyle – Whenever i start to rely on false prophets or teachings, i fall into sin. I can tell the difference between false teachings and real ones, and let me say that the number of mainstream churches erecting around canada are actually leading people away from the truth – like the bible says, teaching the doctrine devils (1 TIM 4:1). Christianity is so watered down these days.. its hard to find a church thats willing to teach the bible, a church thats not afraid of losing members because the truth would scare them away. (okay, thats not entirely true..) Some meeting houses are so technologically advanced, going to church on sunday is like going to the movies! I think its great, but when we compromise the truth to be accepted into today’s world, man only hurts himself.. Van Impe is doing what many are afraid (and ashamed) to do! If you look at the way the worlds going, if you think about what the bible says about the end times and believe it – do you ever think about the church and the future generations? People in toronto (around my age) can’t stand the old-school style of Van Impe, Billy Grahm or other evangelists – not only the stlye, but the truth they proclaim. God is in control, but we need to pray for a revival because theres something wrong with us if we wont go to a church that doesnt fit our materialist and comfort needs – its not churchs job to provide starbucks with the sermon.. Theres something wrong when you cant tell apart a christian and a secular person (because im sometimes that person!Arent we supposed to be set apart, not conformed to today’s standards?).. Im doing a project on creationism – i fully believe it, but thats not my argument – I’m just amazed as a new christ follower at how many Christians believe evolution – and why? Because the church is afraid to go against the grain. If a christian doesnt believe the bible, how can they believe true theology? Van impe is not antichrist! The devil appears even as an angel of light – Van Impe scares the devil. Study your bibles, im so ashamed of us… ..
PS. How can evolutionists tell us the age of the earth (billions and billions yrs.) but cant trace our roots back to the 12 tribes of israel?? pLEASE – NO MORE DECEPTION – be proud of your bible! Its more scientific than evolution any day! http://www.icr.org investigate and ask God for answers!
November 7, 2007 at 4:24 pm
You raise some interesting points, Joshua. I do have to say though that the Earth probably is several billions of years old, and the Bible says nothing to the contrary. Most of us aren’t of the twelve tribes of Israel. I’m not Jewish and most people aren’t Jewish. Read my prior posts about Adam. Blacks, Chinese, Arabs, and all these races did not come from Adam and Eve. Only the Jewish race. Just look at the generations listed in Genesis and then in Matthew. Jesus was Jewish because he was from the same line as Adam. I am not.
Obviously Jack Van Impe isn’t the antichrist, but he is a false teacher though. That’s not my word, but God’s word. Read Ezekial 13:20 where God is talking against false teachers who teach their flock “how to fly”. Those aren’t my words, they’re His.
November 8, 2007 at 8:04 pm
I like to watch their show. No one can pinpoint a date when The LORD will return. He is only pointing out signs that are referred to in the Bible. I think they are truly good people. It comforts me to know that God’s plan is in the works. And when current events relate to the Bible it should remind everyone how TRIED AND TRUE the Bible is. It renews my Faith. It reminds me how no man so long ago could have written such things that have and will come to pass without GOD’s complete input and involvement. Isn’t that amazing? Doesn’t that do something to you? I am always wowed by it. I think those who speak out against these things (jvi, signs, church etc) are truly scared. Scared of what may happen to them and are probably even nice people, but they haven’t committed to Jesus. Maybe they are afraid they wont please him. So they would rather find a way for it to not be true. But it is. Nothing changes that. They need to know that we are all imperfect……even Jack Van Impe. I never feel “good enough”. And I’m not. I don’t deserve His love, grace, gifts or anything else, but he keeps giving it all. I just keep praying and I think of Him always. Remember to “pray without ceasing”.
November 8, 2007 at 11:26 pm
i watched and beleieved what was taught by jack for 10 yrs, but when you study on your own…you get the real truth with the guidence of the holy spirit.. iam not going to judge jack that is gods job! but the anti christ to me is all these false teachings!!!and remember the antichrist comes as christ like ,of godly…and it is the fallen churches that are the antichrist…jack appears to love jesus..as so doese the anti christ..i beleieved all what jack taught and now i read formyself and it is totally opposite, god said the antichrist decieves all nations…and remember even the very elect will be decieved!!! why do you think the path to heaven is VERY NARROW! because there is so very few NOT TAKING MANS word wich is plainly taught..and reading the bible on thiere own to get the truth!! we must not listen to these evangelists and agree with them without studying it on our own!!! a clue in the bible that i use and every one else should ..is the verse …do not take new wine and pour it into an old bottle, for theold breaks and new pours out and renders it useless!!! so this for one dont take something from the old testament add it to the new and …behold …there is your answer…..or say i will take this and add it to this and behold here is the answer!!! read for yourself and you will be amazed and shocked at all the false teachings out there!!!and you will find your answers and they are not from man…this is why the path is so narrow…the devil uses people with power to teach false!!! who has power ?? tv evangelists.they have power to reach the world and deceive many!!! i always loved jack and his ministry ,and still do but i will not take his word and his teachings as truth..i read on my own and i do not watch his show anymore ..but as god would want me to do i will pray for him and for those who do not take their bible and learn on thier own!! god is coming soon and we need to discover the truth..listen to god and take what no man tells you!! from my lrarnings ive learned the antichrist is the fallen churches deceiving so many!!!!!
November 9, 2007 at 12:50 pm
Lori, I have to take up a couple of points from your post. First of all, the antichrist will not profess his love for Jesus because the antichrist will be saying he is the Messiah. I don’t know where you got that from. The false prophet, who I believe will be the last pope, will be a Christian in the eyes of people, but will lead his followers to accept the antichrist as the Messiah. The antichrist also isn’t the fallen churches. The antichrist is a human being with the spirit of Lucifer in him. I don’t know why some people have to complicate things that are so easy. The antichrist is referred to as “the prince that shall come”, not “the denominations that shall come”.
Second, the elect won’t be deceived by the antichrist, or by anything for that matter. Again, I don’t know where you got that from. It’s not possible for the elect to be deceived. That’s said very clearly. The reason why they can’t be deceived is because God will not allow them to be deceived. They are the prophets of this age and generation. I don’t recall reading about Elijah stumbling and bowing to Ba’al for a period of time. It’s clear you weren’t listening to God when you came up with these points.
Patsy, I spoke out about JVI as well and my faith is fully intact. I know he is a false teacher because God says so. Not me. It’s not my place to on my own say Reverend Joe Shmoe is a false teacher. When God says things like false teachers teach their flock to fly, then I’ll repeat it because I’m supposed to.
I’ll even go a step further. You do deserve God’s love. We all do. Why? Because God created us. Do we as a creation deserve this second chance to not fail at our faith? God felt so. That’s what makes him great and why we should always praise him. God could have decided to erase the existence of billions of his own creation, but didn’t. Instead he sentenced to death a third of his angels including his most beautiful angel, Lucifer. He chose us and gave us another chance. That’s why we should thank him for becoming a human to die innocently for our sins, past and present.
Not everybody who speaks out against JVI or churches does so because we don’t accept Jesus. I KNOW Jesus was the Messiah. It’s not a matter of faith for me. It is also Jesus who spoke out against five of the seven churches of Christ in Revelation. Be careful about painting that broad brush about why someone says this or that. There might be a reason why some of us do that is in sync with what is written.
November 12, 2007 at 9:31 am
Jack Van Impe is just another money grubbing human. He preys on the weak and confused. I hope to meet this real for “profit” piece of $hit in my lifetime so I can send him to the other side and he can realize his mistakes. If, and I mean if, there is anything after death, I expect this wretch to burn in hell. Only problem is, I as he don’t believe in heaven or hell.
November 12, 2007 at 9:35 am
Oh, I forgot. Strike me down if I speak aginst your fiction of god and truth. Please, strike me down. I hate it here and look forward to the next (nonexistent) life. FOOLS
November 12, 2007 at 4:20 pm
RJ, let a smile be your umbrella
November 13, 2007 at 2:49 am
I just want to say that I love you all and so does Jesus. He came to this earth so that we could have right relationship with our Father. Jesus died on the cross for all our sin and shame and He didn’t do it so we could argue about who and who isn’t the Antichrist or who we believe it is or isn’t. If you truly love Jesus and know Him the way that I do, I encourage you to fall more in love with Him and let your relationship with Him be the motivation of your whole life. Jesus Himself said in Matt. 24:14 that this message of the Kingdom will be preached to all the world and then the end will come. The real truth is that until we as the Body of Christ get our act together and start living for His kingdom come His will be done, He isn’t coming back. Love. It is the most important word in the whole of the Word of God and if the Bible could be summed up into one word I think this word works. In fact, I John chapter 4 says that God is love. Not that we loved but that He loved us first. ought we not love our brothers and sisters then as Christ loved us?
November 13, 2007 at 5:13 am
Jesse, I have a couple of questions. I read Ezekial 13:20 in NIV, KJV, and NLT, I wouldn’t have ever seen the verse as relating to the teaching of christians going up in the rapture before the tribulation, and I still can’t. You may be right, but would you help to clarify? Also, when you speak about different races apart from Adam, how does the flood figure into that, even if there were different races, wouldn’t it have “reset” so to speak, if the flood covered the whole earth like the bible says and killed every living thing on the earth except for Noah and his family?
November 13, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Rachael, in that whole chapter of Ezekial God is talking about false teachers and what they do. God, through Ezekial said that he was going to take the souls the false teachers had because they taught them how to fly. With the rapture, people are “caught up in the air” as scripture says. Teaching people that they can just escape when God tells all of us to get ready for the tribulation is in direct confliction with the other. Why would God tell us to prepare if we just get to leave? That’s why a teacher teaching their flock how to fly is a false teaching.
Your second question is a good one. I have no proof of this but my gut tells me God had people of all the races on Earth go with Noah. It does say “two of every kind”. It didn’t mention any species specifically other than the raven and the dove. Maybe they weren’t only animals also on the ark. The reason why I believe this is because throughout all the regions of Earth the legend of the flood is known. There is even scientific evidence of a great flood. I think every race was on the ark and that’s why everyone has their own legend of the flood. Only the Torah says where exactly this ark is though. As satellite photos show, there is something that looks like a wooden vessel on Mount Ararat.
Friend, no one is suggesting that Christ died for us to speculate who the antichrist is. What harm does it do? Isn’t discussion, albeit rational discussion good? Why does God give us indicators about the antichrist if he doesn’t want us to speculate or look for the signs? Those bits of information in the bible are there for a reason.
November 13, 2007 at 11:52 pm
Jesse, I am sorry that my message came with such a misunderstanding. I merely meant to say that such a discussion rarely results in anything good for the sake of His kingdom. It has been my experience that when you are dealing with doctrines you are dealing with a person’s beliefs and when you are dealing with a person’s beliefs you are dealing with a person’s passions and when you are dealing with a person’s passions you are dealing with intense emotion all of which results in anything but rational. My point in all this is to say that if we spend all our time in discussion about who the antichrist is, we’ll never see what we’re truly looking for and that is the return of our Lover King Jesus. The Master said in Luke 10:2 to paraphrase, pray to the Lord of the harvest for laborers because the harvest is passed due but there aren’t enough laborers to bring it in. If you want to make a difference in His Kingdom. Start falling ‘head over heels’ in love with Him and let Him love you. I recently heard a quote that makes a whole lot of sense to me. This man said that, ” Ministry is the overflow of a life lived in love with Jesus.” Jesus can’t come back for a spotless bride until His bride becomes spotless. Just think about all the discussion you could be having that truly does make a difference for His Kingdom. I don’t believe knowing the ins and outs about endtime prophecy will get us any closer to spotting the phonies. I John again says that there is one thing that shows us what is antichrist and what is not. This thing is called gnosticism. Basically, that means if you don’t believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is both God and Man you believe in anti Christian doctrine. This is God’s Word which John chapter one says is Jesus but no where in the bible does it say we should condemn those around us who have led others astray, instead it teaches that we are to love them and pray for their souls back in to His Family.
November 14, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Friend, I agree with you that when we discuss things about one’s beliefs that things can get out of order, but that’s up to that individual person and the amount of patience they wish to use. About the gnostics’ belief, anti-christian doctrine, meaning against christian teaching is a lot different than the antichrist. The greek word “anti” means “substitute”, not against. Just like antipasto is a substitute for other pasta dishes such as spaghetti or lasagna. I’m not sure if that’s where you were getting or not, but thought I’d say it anyway.
Trust me, when Jesus returns, our creation will be anything but spotless. Nowhere near will everyone on Earth be spotless. When Jesus returns, he separates those who made the wrong choice from those who made the right choice as it says in Matthew 25. When Jesus returns is not depended on us. It’s depended on God, and God has already set the time. It’s etched in stone. Only he knows when that time is. What we do matters not when it comes to the timing of his return.
November 26, 2007 at 7:28 am
I have read a great deal of the prior-submitted comments. We all have to be very careful to follow the Word of God, and use this Word in order to evaluate what each minister tells us.
It is written;
1) We need no man to teach us an understanding of the Word.
2) All Israel shall be saved. Are the current Jews still Israelites, or have they married out of being the chosen children of God? Who are the descendants of the lost tribes?
3) In order to become a son/daughter of God,we must be found worthy until the end.
4) Those that are found worthy by God, will be thrown out of churches, hated by the world and face severe persecution. The majority of our ministers today, are filled with vanity, and say things that they cannot prove (a sign of a false prophet).
5) There are those that say that they are a prophet/prophetess. Numbers 12:6 defines a true prophet.
6) John 14:21-23 states a promise for those that are found favourable in God’s eyes. I know of not one minister that has received this promise. Remember, it is written, that we will return to the days of Noah, and we all know what happened back then. We all know, that Christ went directly to the multitudes of common people when He was thrown out of the church, because the scribes and Pharisees had defiled the Word of God. He was hated by those that were worldly, but loved by the common people.
These are just some thoughts. I would personally appreciate your thoughts. My email address is thorwaldj@shaw.ca
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November 26, 2007 at 7:48 am
I just wanted to add a comment concerning a previously submitted question on the problem concerning the different races of people, and the flood.
If Noah, his wife and their three sons were caucasian, and the three wives of Noah’s sons were one each of caucasian, negroid and mongoloid, you would still be able to explain the races of people found in the world today.
November 26, 2007 at 8:29 am
How could Noah, his wife, and their three sons be caucasian? They were Jewish. They were descended from Adam whose name actually means “ruddy complected”. How do you go from ruddy complexion to caucasian?
November 26, 2007 at 3:32 pm
When will seemingly intelligent people realize that Noah is just a story out of an entire book of stories. I guess that makes me anti kyrasst.
November 26, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Hi Jesse.
I do not believe that caucasians can come from a mixed ‘racial’ marriage. Even today, the offspring of such mixed marriages have mixed physical characteristics that represent a combination from both parents. If the offspring continually marry one of the three races only, the physical characteristics of this one specific race will become the predominant features in the descendants.
I am only stating one possible means by which mankind could have started over after the flood. If God made certain that different animals survived, and used original ‘pairs’ in order to avoid ‘re-creation’, then why would He not do the same with mankind?
If I assume that Adam & Eve were caucasian, then I would also have to assume that Genesis 6:2 was the method by which negroid and mongoloid entered the picture. This would also mean, that every human being has some caucasian in them, and would thus allow the sins of Adam & Eve to flow through mankind even unto this day……just a thought.
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Hi Sandra.
The story of Noah is a perfect example of the potential wrath of God. Even God states that He was somewhat sorry that He took such steps against mankind, and created rainbows as a covenant between Himself and mankind,in order to remind Himself never to do this again. Evidently, He gets a little perturbed over our sinful nature.
November 27, 2007 at 8:44 am
That’s what I said as far as Noah having “two of every kind” in the ark. That he had two of every race that existed at that time. That’s why the legend of the flood is a worldwide one, but only the Torah tells where the ark actually is. I also believe God created the caucasian, black, indian, and other races along with Adam. There’s a reason why God named him Adam which means “ruddy complected”. I realize many races have come because of interracial marriage, but I think there are more original races than just three. I don’t know who the Mongolians could have mixed with that would later become Chinese and Japanese, which all three have very different physical features. I do have to correct you on one thing for sure though, God did create rainbows but it wasn’t to remind himself of anything. They’re a sign to remind us of his covenant that he wouldn’t do that again. Just wanted to make that clear. The whole thing about God’s creation of the races is very intriguing. The reasons why I believe Adam was just the first Jew is because his name showed his race. Then Cain went east into the land of Nod and married to which his children were called Kenites, a new race. If Cain married one of his race, there would be no need to mention the Kenites. How far east did he travel? Probably not far because the Kenites would become a big part of Israel’s society later on. They were even appointed to be scribes. Who is the closest east of where the Garden of Eden was? The Arabs. I believe Cain married an Arab woman. The lineage of what’s written in Genesis all the way down to David, then the lineage in Matthew is there not only to show Jesus was the descendant of David, but that every generation down from Adam was Jewish.
November 27, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Hi Jesse.
We have to remember a few of the verses in the old testament before we contemplate any kind of interpretation in regards to races. We cannot change the five books of Moses. The history of the beginning of mankind was told to Moses by God Himself. These books were placed in the ark of the covenant.
The lineage of mankind always refers to Adam as being created as a son of God, just like the angels were also created as sons of God. We are then left with only eight people after the flood. Any changes to this (also written in Acts), would be making a change to God’s Word. Since the Word is God, we would be creating a different God. Aaron’s two sons (Leviticus) found out what happens when they strayed from the Lord’s instructions concerning sacrifices.
Jews never existed until Jacob (renamed Israel by God). The scriptures used the term ‘Israelites’ until the Israelites arrived in the promised land and Jerusalem was constructed. It is also written, that there are those that call themselves Jews, but they are not. It is also written, that all Israel shall be saved.
The Arabs believe that they are descendants of Abraham through Ishmael. I believe that they may be right. This does not mean, however, that every Arab can claim this right. It is very likely the same situation as the Jews.
I would not get hung up on what the name Adam stands for. I have never heard of the definition that you mention. In other words, what did God define ‘Adam’ as meaning, in the beginning? Perhaps it was nothing more than a name. We would need scripture to enforce your definition.
Forensic pathologists always class skeletal remains as being one of caucasian, mongoloid or negroid. The physical differences found within known peoples today (Japanese, chinese, etc.)are simply the results of various inter-racial marriages. There has been such a long history of battles, rape, inter-marriage, enslavement, etc., that it is difficult to trace back individual lines. In some cases, whole tribes have been wiped out, in battles or through disease.
An interesting bit of information (true or not true?) is the findings of E. Raymond Capt. He has traced the lost tribes of Israel (800 B.C.) to the throne of England. He used the Assyrian tablets in order to establish his results. If this is true, then the Vikings and Germanic tribes would actually be Israelites. This would create a whole new picture concerning the KJV Bible, the persecution of Jews by Hitler and the last two world wars. Is it possible, that Germany (Israelites?) were actually persecuting non-Jews, that believed they were Jews? This would explain, why Germany did not succeed in defeating Britain (Israelites fighting Israelites). E. Raymond Capt’s book is entitled ‘Missing Links Discovered In Assyrian Tablets’. This could also explain Japan’s failure to defeat the U.S., because Canada and the U.S. are closely linked through heritage, to Britain (also, the same goes for New Zealand and Australia). There has always been battles between the Protestant religion and Catholicism, since the Protestant Reformation. Is this meant to be? Is God behind it all? Is the Protestant religion the beginning of ‘all Israel shall be saved? This opens a whole new can of worms, and it is beyond me.
Take care.
Thor
January 17, 2012 at 4:51 am
You can tell Jesse reads the bible however do not follow his teachings, he’s been mislead and mostly off track.
November 28, 2007 at 4:43 am
If you want to know where it says Adam means “ruddy complected”, look in a Strong’s Concordance. God didn’t just name him Adam for no reason, and the Jews didn’t have Adam mean “ruddy complected” for no reason. Just like Satan means “adversary”. There’s a reason for it. The Jews didn’t start with Jacob, only Israel. What made Jacob a Jew but not his predecessors? I see no physical connection between Germans, the English, and Jews. They look completely different. The lineage of mankind as most have interpreted is what you said, but that doesn’t make it right. That interpretation brings a host of questions that can’t be answered. Jesus was against the traditional teachings of man. Jesus is against five of the seven churches of Christ. The only two he finds no fault in don’t exist yet. When Jesus was a child he marvelled the elders because of his speech. They wouldn’t marvel if he just put out the same things that had been taught by everyone. Even a kid can memorize what is taught. So why did they marvel? He must have been saying things that are different than what is taught. The way I’ve figured it out puts an end to the questions and it makes sense. You still haven’t answered my question as to why there was a mentioning of a new race in the Kenites. There is a reason why Cain’s descendants were called Kenites. The ones who say they are Jews, but are not are Kenites. They became a prominant part of Israel, took Jewish names, and became scribes so that’s why they think they are Jews. Remember Jesus saying “Woe to thee scribes, pharisees, hypocrites!”? It was the scribes along with Caiaphas that rallied the Jewish crowd to crucify Jesus. The Kenites were and are great communicators and that’s why they were appointed to be scribes. I wouldn’t put too much stock into what scientists say. They put out a new study every week about coffee which directly contradicts the study released just the week before. Thirty years ago they swore up and down we were in an ice age and ten years later they blame man for global warming. I don’t put any confidence in the possible findings of scientists. They’re just middlechild attention getters as far as I’m concerned. That’s why everything they come out with is so profound while not making any sense.
November 28, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Hi Jesse.
I do not put any stock in scientists. E. Raymond Capt is not a scientist. He states that the Assyrian tablets were interpreted wrong before. The tablets contain a history of what happened to the Jews while they were in captivity, and beyond.
I corresponded with many leaders of all the different faiths, via emails. The Jewish rabbis agreed that the majority of ‘Jews’ found in Israel today, have probably lost their inheritance of being ‘the chosen children of God’ through inter-racial marriages. A great majority have more Arab blood in them than Jewish. I was also informed by these Jewish leaders, that the children take the faith of the mother, rather than the father, and yet even in Christ’s time, females were looked upon in a similar way that muslim women are looked upon today by the followers of Islam. Even in the NT, it is written, that women were forbidden to speak in the church, and if they wanted to ask a question, they were to ask their husbands at home. It is written, that God created man in his own image, and then He created woman so that man would not be lonely (and also for populating the earth).
We have to keep in mind, the spreading out of mankind after the fall of Babel. This would explain the concentrations found all over the world, of various tribes, that had ‘accumulated’ specific human characteristics, because they no longer had contact with other tribes. They were no longer able to inter-marry with these other’nations or tribes’. This is why ‘nation-specific’ human characteristics found in different nations of the world, are what they are. It appears that the peoples of the Americas, Australia, New Zealand and other tribes of the ‘ring of fire’ areas, were unknown to the peoples of the OT and NT times. We have to remember, that people did not know that the world was round, for a long time, even though they knew of the flood and the fall of Babel.
An interesting note to make, is that it was the R.C and Protestant faith peoples of Europe, that united the earth’s aboriginals and brought them the knowledge of Christianity. The methods by which they did so, were perhaps not always in the spirit of true faith.
The similarities between the pyramids and the Aztec/Maya ‘temple’ construction, could have been based on what the tower of Babel looked like. In other words, the spreading out of people throughout the world after the fall of Babel, would have allowed these same people to carry this construction knowledge with them.
If we take God’s Word as being true, then there is only eight people left after the flood. There is then only one way that the different races could have been carried forward, and this is as I wrote before. THe sins of Adam & Eve had to flow forward throughout all mankind, even until this day. If there were more than one Adam & Eve, then all of them would have had to commit the same sins. Think of coloured paint. You start with a ‘white’ base and add different pigments in order to get different paint colours. The same is true with human beings, through inter-racial marriages.
Take care.
Thor
November 28, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Hi Jesse (again).
I do not put any faith in the interpretation of any man, concerning the name of ‘Adam’. I find it totally irrelevant. The Bible has a ‘flow’ to it. If we are going to be judged equally by God, against His Word, then we must have equal access to this same Word (witnessed as to the truth, by Christ, Himself). Even Christ mentioned, that had He not come forward with His knowledge, we could not be found guilty. Now we cannot hide behind the ‘lack of knowledge’ excuse. We have to concentrate on the statements made in the NT, and forget about Kenites and interpretations of “Adam’. Man has added all kinds of ‘past info’ based on his own vanity. We all realize, that there is a great deal missing from the Bible. It also contains errors. There is one extra generation found in Genesis, that is missing from Matthew and Luke (for example). Is Isaiah 9:6 interpreted properly? Is Isaiah simply prophecizing, or is he stating what Jesus should in fact be called? When Jesus cried out on the cross, did His Father actually turn away from Him (as most ministers state), or was satan allowed to tempt Him right at the end? Jesus had previously stated that His Father had commanded Him, that Christ would have the power to give up His life, and take it back again, and yet apparently, He had tried to do so, and nothing happened. Had Christ cursed God, His life and death would have been for nothing. It is written, that we must be found worthy until the end, in order to become sons/daughters of God. How much closer to the end could you get, than that which Christ faced? He was in horrific pain, faced the possibility that His legs were going to be broken, and totally bewildered by His inability to die, when He believed that His duty to God was complete.
Take care.
Thor
November 29, 2007 at 6:21 am
Boy, you really went away from what it says there. So the word “Adam” means nothing even though it means something? What about Satan? Before he fell his name was Lucifer. Then he became Satan, which means “adversary”. Those aren’t supposed to mean anything? The kenites don’t matter? Everyone outside of the election of grace is given the spirit of slumber. That’s written in Romans 11. The reason is because they would be held accountable if they knew things but still fell. The spirit of slumber was given to protect mankind from his own weaknesses. That’s written clearly. I know what the minister’s interpretation of what Jesus said, and I said in a previous post that Jesus wasn’t talking to God in when he said “My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?” Have you ever read Psalm 22? If you can’t connect the dots between Psalm 22 and what he said on the cross where Psalms was written around 1000BC and the Romans came in 76BC, and the Jews knew nothing of crucifixion until the Romans came in, then I can’t help you. That’s a great example of the spirit of slumber. These ministers must have read Psalm 22 but they couldn’t connect things in their mind even though clearly this was written about Jesus a thousand years before he lived. Jesus was fulfilling scripture when he said “My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?” He was saying Psalm 22 is him. He was talking to us, not to God. One more question, where did Jesus say “forget about the Torah now that I’m here”?
November 29, 2007 at 4:25 pm
Hi Jesse.
Psalm 22 has nothing to do with Christ on the cross. We are all subject to having our faith tested. The closer that we are to God, the stronger is satan’s temptations. That is the whole purpose of the story of Job, Psalm 22 and Christ’s calling out on the cross. They are all the same message. We are being ‘tried by fire’ to see if our faith can be shaken. Christ faced the greatest challenges of all, in this regard. He had to. He had to prove that it is possible, through unyielding faith in His Father, that no matter what happens to any one of us in this world, that God’s promises stand firm. It is for God’s purpose and glorification that these afflictions to us take place, and not ours. We must take these afflictions in stride, hate not those that are the root of the afflictions, and live our lives with full faith that God is with us, and knows what He is doing. Remember, that our lives are nothing more than a “vapour”, when you consider that billions of years have passed since God began creating the earth and heavens. It is written in Romans, that we should look around us, and evaluate all that we see. As in the book of Job, God is telling us, that no man takes care of the grass, trees, ants, worms, etc. He is looking after everything. What appears to be ‘confusion’ to us, is nothing more than our own reasoning, that because we are Godly in the way that we live our lives, we alone have decided how God should respond to our ‘godliness’, and when this does not occur, we become confused, rather than expecting nothing in the first place, and accepting the role of being a “soldier’ for God. Let God decide how He will use us, and reward us.
I understand your other messages that you have submitted in response to my messages. We are in a totally different age now, due to Christ’s birth, teachings and death. Everything is now concentrated on the wisdom that He has given us, which is in fact what God wants of us. Christ was the witness to the truth of this.
Evaluate the following promises found in the NT;
1) We will be hated by the world.
2) We will be thrown out of the church.
3) Jesus will manifest Himself to us.
4) We will be persecuted, even unto death.
5) You need no man to teach you an understanding of the Word.
Now look at all of the different churches and ministries in the world today. They are lost. Many teach things that they cannot prove (a sign of a false prophet); many are rich, while the poor are being ignored; many will tell you what size of donation that you should make, or call the price of their books a ‘donation’; many believe they alone have been given the ultimate wisdom to understand God’s Word; many memorize scripture, and the regurgitate it to their audiences, but actually have no clue as to the real meaning of the scripture; many state that they have brought people to salvation, when in fact, these same people may have already decided to give their lives to Christ, based on information that they received elsewhere; many simply keep repeating that we should repent, and provide no further Christian growth for us (the scripture is clear, that we must not remain as babes, but rather, grow in our faith); many thrive on the media (vanity); and greatest of all, they ignore the scripture that tells us, that God speaks to all people of different faiths and hierarchies, and that we all should be listened to in turn, in the church, instead of simply listening to the different ministers’ ‘canned’ sermons. We have reached a state of ‘the blind leading the blind’, in our churches. It is evident everywhere. Do you know of anyone that has had Christ manifest Himself to them? He did this to me. I have had two visions and a dream. In the first vision, I relived my birth. In the second vision, Christ manifested Himself to me. The dream was very special. Many things were revealed unto me. I was awakened at the end of the dream, and told to write it down. It took several years for God to completely interpret the dream. Read Numbers 12:6 and John 14:21-23. This is exactly what took place.
Take care.
Thor
November 30, 2007 at 7:21 am
I am done with this discussion, with all due respect. If you say Psalm 22 has nothing to do with Christ, then you understand nothing.
December 6, 2007 at 9:19 pm
get a grip
December 6, 2007 at 10:11 pm
that was profound
December 17, 2007 at 2:13 am
JVI is a man after God’s heart. His thorough understanding of the holy scriptures is amazing. Yet, JVI, being just a man, is to understand that he, like all of us, is not perfect. But to say he is a money grubbing person after his own gain, is simply wrong. Besides, who are you to judge anyone.
December 18, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Let me just say the bible say that when the anti-christ comes people will be in amazment and marvel him cause he does great things. dont be fooled. also too he wont be a person from earth. theres going to be an invasion from space. It will be an et. probblly ceaser
December 19, 2007 at 7:40 am
That’s ridiculous, James. It’s not going to be Caesar. I mean, really. Caesar? Maybe Alf. Maybe Gazoo. Them I can believe, but not Caesar.
December 24, 2007 at 11:31 am
Jesse, Thor
I challenge you to say this prayer: God let me know you as you really are, not as men have preceived you. I think you both will be surprised.
December 24, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Sister, thanks but I don’t see your point in requesting I pray this. I wasn’t mad at Thor or anything. Why I said what I said was because when a person is having a discussion and is obviously wrong, but refuses to see it, then there’s no point in discussing the subject anymore. It’s obvious in Psalm 22 this was about Christ’s last moments, only written a thousand years beforehand. Everything from his hands and feet being pierced to his garments being lotted upon is written in this Psalm. He refused to admit this obvious wrong he stated, so there was no further point in me discussing that with him any longer.
December 26, 2007 at 3:48 am
JVI certainly has nice hair, but his biblical interpretation is weak, at best.
December 26, 2007 at 3:44 pm
I believe in God the Father Almighty, creator of Heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only son, Our Lord; concieved by the Holy Ghost, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried. He descended into hell and on the third day arose again from the dead.
He ascended into Heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the father Almighty, from where he will judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins and life everlasting. Jack and Rexella are human beings like the rest of us and enjoy going on vacation, eating out at nice restaurants,
and in general, having a good time.
December 26, 2007 at 8:39 pm
It seems to me that parts of this discussion is ‘much ado about nothing’. A person is either a believer in and follower of God’s word or not. For many years, I felt that the bible was book of nice stories that was written to help a person lead a good life…a life of which God would approve.
Then, I watched my husband read, and search the bible for hours each day; pray and have quiet times; write an unending flow of God-inspired prose (some of which he said he did not even know the content which was flowing from his pen until he read it); and best of all pray without ceasing. All of his understanding of God and His Word, we would discuss till late in the evenings, and I learned, with his help, how to read God’s Word. When this man, my best friend, died at age 38, all of what we talked through and what I read of my husband’s writings as well as those of C.S.Lewis, and other God-inspired writers, helped me to find peace, hope, and the knowlege of God’s love.
People like the VanImpes help those of us who are believers and are still learning, and want to help others understand the method of ‘praying without ceasing’. I know that is why I am still here, and I know that our concentrating on the ‘small parts’, such as skin color and ‘elephant evolution’ is just the sand that satan likes to throw in our eyes and our ears…the sand that keeps us from seeing and hearing God’s Word.
December 26, 2007 at 10:45 pm
Sorry to hear about your husband, child of light. To critique what you said though, who says we’re concentrating on the small parts? The Bible is filled with a wide variety of things. Not just Satan is bad and Jesus is good. I think we all know that. Satan has thrown nothing in my eyes because I see God clearly. I hear Him loud and clear. If God thought that skin color was just a small part, then He wouldn’t have named Adam the Jewish meaning of “ruddy complected”. There was a reason why He did it. Just like it’s a big deal that before Satan became Satan, he was Lucifer which means “morning star”. Satan means “adversary”. With all due respect and due sympathy, I don’t think these are small things at all, and neither is anything the Bible states.
December 28, 2007 at 9:56 pm
I did not mean to imply that anything in the Bible is not important. It is all apart of the Whole. However, my belief is that the parts of the Bible that were emphasized by Christ are those things upon which He wants us to dwell. He did not dwell on outwardly apperances or whether evolution of the species is valid. He knew the answers to all things, but while He was here, did not use the prescious time that he had, teaching that type of information. I believe that the reason he did not discuss these and many other similar topics was because it creates more anger, hurt and division amoung His children, and he was here to teach, love, forgiveness and acceptance of others, etc. In our future existance with the Lord, I believe that we will be able to handle all of the ‘truths’ that we still debate…(By the way, my name means ‘shining light’, but I don’t feel I glow any more that the next believer.) Thank you, Jesse, for your sympathy. May God Continue to Bless You.
December 28, 2007 at 11:13 pm
You’re welcome. I’m very good friends with a family who lost a loved one, who also was a good friend of mine. People I care for lost their son and the one I love lost her brother. They’re still in shock over the whole thing.
There are many things that Jesus said, but weren’t written in the gospels. He told the secrets of everything only to his disciples. The reason wasn’t because of the division it could cause, it was because as it is written in Romans chapter 11 that all but God’s elect were given the spirit of slumber. Eyes that should not see and ears that should not hear. Throughout this age there are only 7000 of God’s elect, as it is written. The reason why all but the elect are given the spirit of slumber is because all have bowed to Ba’al, or something like Ba’al once before. That’s why Paul reiterates that God said “I have reserved to myself 7000 men (and women) who have not bowed to Ba’al”. The disciples and the prophets were of this 7000. That’s why the disciples were told all of the secrets, and the rest were not.
December 28, 2007 at 11:18 pm
To finish what I was writing… computer booted me but was able to save some… The spirit of slumber is to protect everyone who had already failed with their faith. If someone has faith, not only in God and Jesus, but on certain issues, then it’s great but it’s only faith. Once that person really knows 100% who God and Jesus were and knows why certain things are why they are, then they are culpable for knowing it.
January 9, 2008 at 1:02 am
Jack Van Impe is a true Christian, knows the WORD better than 97% of the ones that think they do and is a servent of Jesus Christ. He is right on the money about prophecy, something a few folks would prefer not to be pointed out. GOD BLess Jack Van Impe! and put the whole armor on him against his attackers
January 9, 2008 at 9:09 pm
wow it is truly amazing to read some of these opinions. I stumbled upon this site researching, looking for the “truth in all things”. There is no point in trying to change other peoples opinions if they are not searching for the true truth. I will not say wether I believe in the writer of this page or if I dont. That would be between me and the father. But I will be critical of anyone until I know wether there intentions are good or not. And I know a lot of people will follow anybody that says God is the true God. Just because of the things they say does not mean hey are true teachers. I think alot more people should spend more time in prayer and read there bible with a discerning spirit. This argument WILL end one day! The truth will be known so I just hope that people are very sure of who they let influence their beliefs. Remember if it was possible even the Elite would be fooled. Satan is very good at manipulating people. But the lord can protect us and reveal this to us.There are false prophets, teachers and witnesses out there. God himself has warned us of this. This means that there are going to be many many people fooled into believing the wrongful teaching of others. I mean come on a lot of these people will follow the antichrist so there are was to get people to follow falsehoods. I personaly do not go to church or particularly listen to the popular preachers of this day. because again we are warned of them in the last days. I worship god and read my bible together with my family and try my very hardest to live my life the way He tells us to. I will not follow anyone else but him. Because I do not want to give satan the chance to trick me into following anyone else that may have a different agenda. And again i choose to not say wether i agree with the author or not. Instead of the argueing maybe we should all get down on our knees and ask the lord to guide us into the truth. If you truly do want to know The Truth in all things he will show you. And sometimes that means changing alot of our old beliefs and things that we use to find comfort in. Remember satan is a sneaking, caniving and manipulative beast so he will defidently find ways to fool people and ONLY god can set us free. So make sure everyday you are aking him for the truth because i am sure a lot of people that are going to hell do not belive they are. bless you
January 9, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Sorry i meant to say even the ELECT could be fooled. lol lol
January 10, 2008 at 3:15 am
Wow!! Gods and Devils…creepy. Would be nice if we could pay attention to the here and now, make things better, you know at home, where the children are playing, growing up and getting an education. Family, neighbors, fiends and co-workers all striving to make the world a better place…not so creepy. Jack is a human “man” and man created the gods and devils in “man’s” own image. Proven time and time again but not many get it or want to get it. It’s easier to believe that some greater power exsists and will make things better…but you all know, this isn’t really true…deep down, its just an escape, or better yet, a means to cope. The world is a dangerous place, too many creepy and scary things people do and say. Best to make the world a better place…forget gods and devils…think of the children, family, friends and our neighbors…yes, this is best.
January 10, 2008 at 4:20 am
I have to agree with omikrom. Religion is created by us here on earth. God never created any religion. Religion is nothing but a series or set of rituals or behaviors that we as humans put ourselves through hoping to find either spirituality or some order in our lives. I think that faith has much more to do with any true spirituality than religion, and it is so important that we understand the difference. I’m not saying who’s right or wrong, just that while we are here on earth, shouldn’t we put ALL our energy into helping our fellow men and women? Where I live, there are churches that rival the size of some malls, while the two homeless shelters we have struggle to keep their doors open, and often close for periods of time until they can come up with the proper funds. It seems to me that we put too much emphasis on doing the right thing in order to get to heaven instead of simply doing the right thing. If God is the creator of the universe and can see what lies in our souls, will a man or woman who does good works and helps people all his/her life be denied heaven because he/she hasn’t accepted Jesus? Or Mohammed or whatever? We allow dogma to hold us down, to twist us up inside until we are afraid to do anything that deviates from the very letter of whichever doctrine we subscribe to. I’m nowhere near perfect, and I’m not trying to be, but I try hard to make sure that I help everyone I can. So if there is a God, and that God can see into my soul, that’s good enough for me. Thanks for the chance to rant everyone.
January 11, 2008 at 5:26 am
God didn’t create devils. God created Lucifer. Lucifer did something unforgiveable and became Satan. The elect CAN’T be fooled. It says it right there, it’s not possible. People who don’t accept Jesus as the Messiah can’t have everlasting life, but who says when this age is over so are their chances? There’s more than a thousand year period written in Revelation after Jesus returns, which ends this age. Keep your mind open and forget everything you’ve ever heard. Let God explain His word to you Himself.
January 11, 2008 at 5:32 am
Amen, Mr. Norman.
January 12, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I watch your program & I have had God send me Messages that this man of perdition is coming quickly upon the scene. I’ve two visions or dreams– The first was a dream where I saw this man coming out of a Limo & standing near it for a period of time & the voice came from heaven stating that this was the Anti-Christ. I was not permitted to see his face at that time. But – on the second time – I had a clear vision & I saw a man standing near a big beautiful chair with valuable diamonds, emeralds, rubies, opals, sapphires & other stones embedded into this great chair & a Voice said that this was the man coming upon the earth to destroy God’s people. His chair was in Jerusalem & the vision lasted about two minutes or so. The chair rose at 45 degrees on each side to crest at the top with things of wood intermittendly going up. The Rapture Visions were as real as day & night & that is approaching quickly It will happen at night & people will be taken away- those who have Obedient & Faithful to the Promises & the Commandments of Jesus Christ.
January 17, 2008 at 6:52 am
I promise that you will be here during the Tribulation. That goes for all of you unless you die before it comes. Those dreams you’re having are just that, dreams. Think of dreams as your brain being on screensaver mode. The Bible is there to tell you to get prepared for what is to come, so why would God decide that you get to escape it? The Tribulation is this age’s test. No one is escaping.
January 24, 2008 at 3:41 am
Religion is for Monkeys
January 24, 2008 at 3:44 am
Isn’t that ironic?
January 25, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Darwin is for Darren. Now that’s ironic considering Darwin didn’t even believe what everyone attributed to his theory of evolution.
January 26, 2008 at 2:02 pm
you must be from california
February 3, 2008 at 11:36 am
Jack Van Impe is nothing but a short little cock sucker. He must love to take it in his man pussy by his shemale wife Rexella who clearly has a big dick. They are both wastes of life. When the end comes I assure all of you both of them and all of their followers will be clensed by blood and fire along with most of you. “The streets will flow with the blood of the non believers and the bearers of false teachings.”
Liberate tu me en xafaris!!!
(Save yourself from hell)
February 3, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Is this Beavis? You sound different uncensored
February 6, 2008 at 8:32 pm
I think this article is right on target. Anyone who teaches “against” God’s word is a false teacher. It says specifically in Matthew 24 and 2nd Thes 2 that Christ will “not” come back until after the son of perdition (Satan)plays the role of antichrist. He will not come in looking like a monster but will look like the lamb of God to decieve many. And many will be, this is written. And it’s because they chose to believe a lie, this is also written. Jesus, (Yeshua) and Paul said beware and people ignore these warnings and would rather follow some who has “memorized” the bible but never really learned what it’s saying. The church will be here, the elect will be delivered up to give witness (The Holy Spirit will speak through them) So anyone claiming that the Holy Spirit is the restrainer is also very unlearned. Michael is the restrainer. This is discussed in Daniel and Revelations. People need to get into the Word before it’s too late. If not, you will fall for antichrist, you will be powerless to stop it. This is the great apostasy and it is for people thinking they’re saved. Common sense tells you unsaved people have nothing to “fall away” from. Apostasy in the Greek is to fall away from someone’s beliefs. Which is what happens when you worship antichrist (instead of Christ) thinking he is the true messaih because you’re so deep into man’s traditions instead of what God has told us in his word.
November 24, 2013 at 1:53 pm
i am the so called monster from the sky the holy spirit and i am the restrainer,why the misleading of others,ask for my spirit and i will give it willingly check jackvan impe two leaders 2 of 2 on youtube you will see me in the news headline moster from the sky i am the sun of man shalom!
February 7, 2008 at 4:49 am
Wow, well said Julie. When did you answer your call? As a fellow member of the elect I was called when I was getting ready to turn 25. Being a member of the elect, I was not only called, but made to learn God’s word the way He means it. Also wondering how old you are, being that this is the last generation.
February 7, 2008 at 6:59 pm
I think there are forms of ‘anti-Christ’ behaviors going on this very moment. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that the anti Christ can’t come in human form for I also believe as the Bible says. But I think none of the men listed here are the anti-Christ.
However, it really scares and saddens me to think a lot of people have and are buying into all this new age stuff. I can see it on the message boards of which I post — people saying that we as individuals are “God”. Oh, really?
There are also many books out there which people are substituting for the Bible. Celebrities are promoting these books and it’s leading many people away from God. Some folks haven’t even picked up a Bible to read it, yet bash it every which way from sun-up to sundown and are so unfairly judgemental about the Word. They only hear what they want to hear which is all negative — the bible promotes a wrathful God and is all about punishment. Oh, really? The God I worship loves, and loves, and loves…
And some I’ve encountered say God is not who Christians believe He is. To these group of folks He’s just some higher form of intelligence and that all the other things associated with God and Christ in our own beliefs mean nothing at all. But they will be with God when the die. What? I thought my belief in Christ would help me in obtaining being with God and being close to Him when I depart this earth. The more they buy into this, the further from God they will be. Where will their spirits end up, eventually?
And some folks are aetheists who really despise Christians — they are so hate filled it isn’t even funny — they don’t even want to hear about God and then go on the attack immediately if you say one positive thing about God. I have found these people think they are of higher intelligence and are superior to us, little Christians.
And some people are just those who want to live immoral lifestyles with multiple partners but try to justify themselves by saying they are in a “family” structure and they are people who really care and watch out for each other — they are a ‘village’. They are triads and quads, or more (3 to 4 people married to each other) They also call themselves ‘enlightened’ and claim they are more mature because they can handle the insecurity and jealousy that comes when you have more than one partner in your so called ‘open marriage’. They claim they are above all of that. They also kid themselves disease won’t enter into their ‘structures’ because they all have trust among themselves and get themselves checked regularly. Really? Hmm. I thought monogamy was what God had in mind for us.
There are people out there who are also following “pagan” religions and rites and believe in other ‘gods’ as it were. Some of these also cross over into open marriage arrangements as well. They claim it’s not about the sex and they only sleep with one person at a time. For reasons I won’t go into here, because it’s disgusting what I have figured out, I really think otherwise.
Most of the people mentioned above (except for the aetheists because generally they don’t believe in Heaven or Hell) will also tell you they don’t believe they will have to answer for anything when they die and there will be no answering to God. I don’t think I want to be standing in their shoes on their day of judgement.
No repentance, and no belief in Christ as their saviour.
As for me, I know Christ is the truth, the way, and the life. And no one comes to God except through our dearly beloved Jesus.
A Sister In Christ
February 7, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Jessie, it was just about 5 years ago. And for someone who had believed the rapture all my life, it was quite the eye opener. But I thank God for that. No matter what I was feeling about my whole belief system, I loved that fact that no matter what the truth was I only wanted that. And it was so easy to see for me that I knew. It was only then that I realized I had put my faith and beliefs in man rather than God and his Word. Trusting of course what I had been learned instead of checking things out for myself.
I actually just turned 40 (1967). My mother interestingly enough was born in ’48 so I know we’re in that last generation regardless. Seeing how some have named 1948 or 1967.
It was really nice to read your comments throughout though, especially about the kenites, etc. It’s suprising that so many don’t think it’s important that we need to know these things and we really do. I know I still need to try and learn so much more.
February 8, 2008 at 2:43 am
email me Julie… jno2179536@aol.com we should talk 🙂
February 8, 2008 at 5:29 am
How easy it is to pick out those who have been born into Gods family by placing there entire faith in Jesus. How sad for those who place their faith in other things than Jesus and His work on the cross. I am so saddened by the spuing of the flesh but its understandable.. God said their minds would be blinded from the truth. Jack Van Impe is a wonderful man of God who speaks the truth of God. God bless him as he continues truth and soul winning
February 8, 2008 at 5:55 am
Jack Van Impe speaks of a great untruth with the rapture. In Ezekial 13:20 it speaks against false teacher who teach their flock how to fly. Now that’s the truth.
February 8, 2008 at 5:55 am
false teachers… darn typo
February 8, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Besides false teachings, any evangelist who lives in a 12000 square foot mansion is no doubt all about himself. One should be very wary of supporting this kind of huckster. Most folks have the spiritual gift of discernment — why not employ it and see most of these televangelists for whom they truly are. People are following their ways, not God’s. Please don’t let yourself be suckered in like that! God has better plans for you.
May God bless.
—A Sister In Christ
February 8, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Will do Jessie 🙂
And it’s people like Jack Van Impe who help keep people in the dark from the real truth. Not picking on him, just telling it like he is. It’s also known he’s in support of a “one world church” and this doesn’t strike anyone as strange??
February 9, 2008 at 1:27 am
I didn’t know that about him wanting a one world church or about his mansion. I don’t pay much attention to him, but remembered watching him years ago when he would talk incessantly about the rapture. He has a bobblehead for a wife, and his hairdo is bulletproof. I’m not picking on him either 🙂 But when people have certain characteristics, they’re hard to ignore. I do believe he’s brought people to God, just like Pat Robertson has. It’s up to those people to find out who God is on their own from there and see these false teachers like Van Impe and Robertson for who they are. Anyone living in a mansion on God’s word is not a Godly man.
February 10, 2008 at 12:06 am
Jessie, that’s how I feel. I think it’s wonderful when people are brought to God but it really is up to them to search out what is really true in God’s Word and not put so much faith in men’s tradition without ever backing up to see what the bible really has to say. There’s so much there and it’s a disgrace that people never get past the milk to see the meat. (Just as Paul taught)
February 12, 2008 at 3:08 am
anti-christ is/are abortionists. we are in the great tribulation now. read rev14:3-6, they are describing aborted babies.
February 12, 2008 at 7:05 am
I’ve never seen so many wrong things in so short of a statement before. I don’t even think I should tell you where you’re wrong, but my idiot-self will anyway. Antichrist isn’t a plurality. He’s a human being with the spirit of Satan in him. The 144,000 is the same 144,000 that are of the twelve tribes of Israel that the fallen angels cannot torment. Wow, were you way wrong on that one. We are not in the great tribulation right now. The day we are in the great tribulation people will probably be celebrating and dancing in the streets because a great deal for peace has just been enacted involving Israel. Do some reading without having your head in the butt of your reverend, pastor, or priest.
February 12, 2008 at 7:55 am
Plus there are way more than 144,000 aborted babies. There are millions. I certainly hope you’re not a reverend, pastor, or a priest. If you are, then I feel bad for your students.
February 16, 2008 at 12:04 am
to find out who the anti-christ is their name will add up to the numerical code of 666. I hate that number but we shall all see when the daily sacrafices start they shall be stopped by the anti-christ who will go into the holy of holys and say he is God showing there for works of satan this is called the abomination make a desolation
February 16, 2008 at 12:18 am
and by the way jesse im 17 and i guess must be of the last generation. What i said in the last bit is found in daniel ” Blessed are they that wait” im just awaitin for the the world to go in the king of kings but for the wait he has given unto us the comforter, we also have dominion over the earth so what is said is your faith speaking thing in to existance ” speak thing that be not as though they were” but it also says ” be not happy that we have the dominion but because our names written in the Lambs Book of Life
February 16, 2008 at 12:30 am
oh and by the way i do agree w/ you Gods elect can not be fooled and once youve understood and believe in his coming. i think you answered a question for me before but you called yourself Jesse not Jesse Norman II?
February 16, 2008 at 3:57 am
Jack & rex SELL GOD for money, this isnt the way to spread the TRUTH, by trying to “SCARE” people & then take their hard earned dollars$$$, while they live the HIGH life on all the money!
If they SPEAK the TRUTH, they dont have to GET RICH on selling the DVDS!
The BIBLE says: Jesus said..”I WILL COME LIKE A THEIF IN THE NIGHT!” thives dont tell you when their coming! & JACK DOESNT KNOW THE DATE EITHER, he is just taking the date someone else predicted. the BIBLE says “BEWARE OF SOOTHSAYERS! & NO ONE CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE!!!!!!!! & Study to SHOW YOURSELF IMPROVED, dont take JACKS word for it, unless you want to GIVE money away..give it to me I NEED IT to fix my home!!!!
February 16, 2008 at 10:19 am
Yeah Jake, I did. It’s good you are reading at such a young age. I can tell you are reading a new translation type of Bible, so I want to give you some advice. Put it away and don’t use it. Put your nose to the grindstone and learn to understand the language of the original King James. There are mistranslations (purposefully I think) in the old KJV, but not nearly as many as in the new translations. The old KJV takes some getting used to but unless you know Greek and/or Hebrew, then it’s the best around. Look into getting a Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance too. That with an old KJV you can trace what the actual original words were before the translation. It will change your life as far as understanding God’s word.
February 17, 2008 at 6:14 pm
well i only use the Old KJV im not into any others i read it and get what i said i have a concordance n ur right the best is a strongs.
Ive but found recentlythat with my life i want only to have the testimony that I Please God. what is your faith u speak it into existance.what you say, you are. When Jesus told the lepers “go tell the priest you are healed” even though they had still the sores, they still went and told the priest they were healed, ” there faith made thm whole” they went and did the works put forth to them, the ACTION of showing your faith you are healed, speaking your faith, acting on your faith. ” we have dominion over the earth speak blessings in Jesus name over your life and the peaople around you. ” your saved by your faith alone” your sins dont decide your being a christian you are a christian besause “JESUS is LORD” submit to him make you a christian. when he died on the cross the old law died now there are two that remain 1. “Put no others before me” 2. “Love thy neighbor as thyself” “He establishes our righteousness” he know we will sin we must ask for forgivness in JESUS name yes, but but he knows we shall sin “For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of the lord Romans 3:23” he will make us righteous, we “submit to him and the devil shall flee from you” submit to him and eh will help us through our trials and pain.
i says “blessed is he that waiteth” if you wait upon his coming you shall be blessed it speaks in the word in a story of a man getting ten cities.
in ecclessiasties it says (written by solomon in his later years) it says “in conclusion fear God and obey his comandments” which sums up the whole matter.
“In the end every knee shall bow and ever tongue confess that JESUS CHRIST is Lord to the glory of the father Philipians 2:11” so no matter if people beleive in God, or if there is even a God or any thin g because thaey shall confess in the end.
(everything in “” is scripture.)
February 18, 2008 at 2:16 pm
when Jesus healed the lepers, where does it say they still had the sores?
February 19, 2008 at 4:02 am
they were healed from there sores as they went when they had made it to the priest they were clean, but when they had been so called “cleansed” ony 1 returned to thank jesus. and everything in the old testiment is pretty much an accurate detailing of what has, is and what is to come.
February 19, 2008 at 9:15 am
This article is funny and satirical, and these comments at the end here are completely ridiculous. Don’t any of you have a sense of humor?
Notice, for instance, this paragraph:
“Although it is often true that fundamentalist Baptists and apocalyptic televangelists make very good bedfellows, Jack Van Impe has had a severe falling-out with a large number of people who would otherwise be a part of his natural flock over the past few decades.”
Notice how the author of the article separates himself from BOTH JVI AND fundamentalist Baptists? All of you fundamentalists wagging your fingers at one another are utterly distracted by this article and this forum, which was a put-on from the beginning. You people read satire about as well as you read the Bible: that is, completely out of context and without a sense of humor.
February 19, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I really don’t know what you’re talking about Pete. Most of these posts really have nothing to do with either JVI or baptist fundamentalism, so I don’t see what your point is. What it seems to me is that you came on here to want to insult people and act like you’re smarter than everyone who is a Christian. The funny thing about that is that I think most of us do know that this article was a put-on from the beginning. But instead of thinking “these people from their posts don’t seem that dumb so maybe they do get it”, your ego keeps you from thinking that.
Wanting us to read the Bible with a sense of humor implies that you don’t believe, which is fine. I know the Bible is genuine because I know some things that can’t be explained away even by those who think they are ultrageniuses. A lot of people who think they’re a lot smarter than they actually are like to make fun of Christians because they themselves really have no idea about anything themselves.
What do you believe? Tell me what you believe. When you can do that, I bet I’ll be able to pick it apart in minutes and make you look like the idiot that you accuse us of being. My IQ is 178, and I’m quite sure yours isn’t. People who actually have high IQ’s or are good thinkers don’t have to make fun of a general population even if they believe in something you don’t. There are over a billion Christians on Earth. Don’t you think possibly that one of them is smarter than you are or actually know what they’re talking about? Tell us Pete, what do you believe?
February 29, 2008 at 12:40 am
Didn’t think so.
March 8, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Jack and Rexella are anything but balanced in their views. Not one single, solitary prediction that Jack ever made came within remote distance of the truth; just reflect on the superfulous hype he threw at his audience concerning Y2K. My old 1993 computer was actually Y2K compliant, what a joke! Now his latest kick is December 31, 2012, and if he is still alive then, he will invent some other gross nonsensical tale to take his followers forward to some other point in time. Both Jack and Benedict XVI are looking for the return of the Savior, I just wonder what the Lord will do with them if they are here when he returns (Remember the reaction of Jesus to the money tycoons at His Father’s Temple).
The danger with Jack and others like him such as Hal Lindsay, the Watchtower Society, Grant Jeffry, John Ankelberg, Tim LaHaye is not in the false and misleading predictions they give on a vast canvass, but rather the psychological damage they do to individuals to lend their pretentious projections credence in good faith.
March 9, 2008 at 7:01 pm
does anybody relize that ALLL religion is about the DOLLAR not god!!!!!!!!!! if nobody bought impes books and tapes..he would not give a shit about GOD !!!!!!!!
March 11, 2008 at 7:38 pm
You definitely make some valid points Daniel. It seems that Jack Van Impe and others are telling people to live in fear but yet to also let their guard down since everyone will be raptured. It’s quite an oxymoron. It’s good that it’s never written in the Bible to listen to whatever your religious teacher says, but rather prepare yourselves for whatever may come. People like Van Impe is exactly what is written of in Ezekial 13:20. Their flock will be taken away from them some day.
March 11, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Jesse:
You are most assuredly correct in asserting than we should work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. People who place their faith and spiritual expectations in the “magic charms” addressed at Ezekiel 13:20, such as we find abounding with false expositors in the person of Van Impe, Benny Hnn, Oral Roberts, Jim Baker, the Watchtower Society, Tim LaHaye, Grant Jeffrey, Jimmy Swaggert, Peter Popoff and a host of other fabricated, money laundering scammers. The innocent victims of these scoundrels, shall be lifted in the Rapture. Why? Because Jesus knows their hearts and Jesus knows they have acted with the utmost good faith. Jesus will chase the money launders out of His sight, they are enjoying the pleasures of corruption for a season, but when they face the Master, it will be much like the group who were going to stone the woman to death. Jesus will again write on the ground, and Van Impe and others like him will shrivel before the mighty truth of our Savior’s words. Have you also noticed the gradient of absurdity by which Van Impe functions? Some 30 years ago Van Impe taught a reasonable gospel, then as fame and money poured in, He became more and more absurd in his doctrines and positions until now His teachings have evolved to the most crazy and betwitched sarcasm on religious television. This is a consistent pattern with the TV money preachers. Rex Humbard became so obscessed with money that at the end of his tenure he devoted entire programs to begging. What a farce and mockery of everything that Jesus represents and demonstrated by His words and actions of humility.
Jesse, maintain your sound faith, never abandon your solid base of faith, grounded in the Scriptures. Threin lies the secret of true spiritual happiness. It can never be entrenched in nor swirl around the likes of Jack Van Impe, a simon-pure false prophet.
March 15, 2008 at 4:13 pm
In Ezekial 13:20 it clearly states that teaching their flock how to fly aka the rapture is a false teaching.
March 16, 2008 at 6:40 am
I seem to recall his some time back having commissioned a study to have some engineer time the “twinkling of an eye,”to some fraction of a second – in order to demonstrate how quickly he and those believing as he does would be sailing upward (he mentioned waving to those who might be aboard a 747) as they were zapped following the impending Rapture. I also recall that he labeled as the probable AntiChrist either the King of Spain, or some fellow in (I believe) either Poland or Austria.
March 18, 2008 at 12:10 am
I’ve always been amazed at the fact that he has so much of the Bible memorized, yet still holds to a premillennial/dispensational doctrine.
March 18, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Jesse:
I would ask you to help me with an explaination of your views about the so-called “Rapture” as Paul described the event. VanImpe has a distorted view about it, in fact all his views are now twisted into a maze of confusion.
March 18, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Paul did describe the event but he also backed away from what he said in his second letter to the Thessalonians, because it wasn’t for them. Jesus also said in Matthew 24 that we should pray “to be accounted worthy to escape these things”. “These things” is plural and “escape” there in the Greek is the word ekpheugo which literally means “to flee out from”. Jesus was saying we should pray to flee from where these plagues will be, not the whole period or he would have said “escape this period of time”. Anytime there is talk of the shortening of the days, it says its for the elect’s sake. It’s only for the election of grace. In Romans 11 it says there are only 7000 dispersed throughout this age of the election of grace. Only for the elect is the rapture for, and there are less than 7000 of them left because as Paul said, some have lived by the time he wrote that. When God reserves to himself a person it means they have not lived yet.
March 25, 2008 at 6:50 am
I must express after reading all of the above comments concerning Jack Van Impe,& after watching him expound extensively concerning the rapture & the signs of the Glorious return of the King of Kings,& Also the Appearing of the Anti-Christ,Mr. Van Impe appears to be quite Compelling & Accurate in quite a few of the Scriptures He quotes with great Un-Wavering Conviction & Confidence in His Belief.But,Above & Beyond His Own Un-Wavering Conviction & Confidence I Constantly Hear & Heed the Conviction & Confidence of My Own Heart in which for the last 31 years of having been “Born Again”I Always have Heard the “Voice of Truth”,Convicting & Convincing Me just as Christ clearly Declared some 2008 Years ago that “His sheep hear His voice & a Stranger They will Not follow.For Whom the Father gave to the Son(Christ),No One will Snatch Them out of the Father’s Hand’s.
March 26, 2008 at 9:08 am
That quote you wrote was about God’s elect. God’s elect are the sheep that will not follow a stranger. That’s why it says in Matt. 24:24 that everyone but the elect will be at least for a moment deceived. It’s not possible for the elect to be deceived. As it says in Romans 11:4 there are only 7000 of the elect.
March 26, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Jesse,I agree,but Why did You Pre-Assume that I did Not know that Truth already?Maybe You should Ask the Person before Assuming the Person was Ignorant of Scripture He or She is Quoting.Ok?If You had Seen where I stated Already have been “Born Again” for 31 Years,which if True then the “Spirit of Truth” being the “Holy Spirit” being My “True Teacher” of the “Truth”,for the Past 31 Years,then Maybe the next Time Jesse You will First ask Me or Some One Else if They Understand the Scripture They are Quoting or ask them to Explain They’re Understanding of the Scripture,Ok?.I am Not being Defensive or Trying to Point the Finger of Criticism back at You Jesse,it is Just a Suggestion,& Something I have had to Learn over the Last 31 Years of being One of “His sheep”.It is a Technique which the “Spirit of Truth” has Taught “My Spirit” in order to be Less Judgemental & Quick to Correct a Person.
March 27, 2008 at 1:28 am
Sir Jesse,I Hope You did Not read My reply to Your’e reply before this Second repy to My first reply(Huh?),which if You understood Any of this You have My Congratulations!Anyway,Reason I feel Compelled to reply to My own reply before You do(huh huh?)is Because of Realizing My own Over reaction to Your’e reply.The very Defense in My first reply was Not being Defensive & Accusing You of Pre-Assuming My already Knowing the “Truth”& already being Taught by the “Spirit & Teacher” of the “Truth”.How is this for Self “Critiquing” Soo far?.Any way Sir Jesse,if My first was “Out of Line” or “Too Personal”,Although I can Not Retract,Accept My Appology Ok?Anyway,If My reply Indeed was “Over Reactive” or “Over-Dramatic”,It is Because after the Lord was “Gracious” to “Save My Life” in Not just “One”,but “Two Auto Accidents” in the Span of “25 Days” in “August of 1998”,which were Both “Traumatic” as well as “Dramatic”,Soo I think that is Why I tend Sometimes to “Dramatize & Traumatize” whatever I express or is “expressed to Me”,Soo that’s all for this “Traumatic & Dramatic Sermon on the “Mount of James-:).Last,but Not Least I hope “Sir Jesse” Understand “Any or All” of My own “Self Thesis”.Whooo,Is this “James the Nutt”,”Finally Finished”!!
March 27, 2008 at 6:16 am
No problem. The reason why I presumed you didn’t know that was because as I’ve stated before that to teach the rapture is to teach something that God states not to teach. In Ezekial 13:20 it says repeatedly false prophets who teach their flock how to fly are doing the wrong thing. There’s only one possible interpretation of that. That’s not saying “don’t make airplanes”. Many teachers teach their flock how to fly away and be raptured away. If Van Impe is teaching something God tells him not to, then he can’t be one of those who has the Voice within him for the elect to know he speaks for God.
March 27, 2008 at 9:53 am
Thanks for the second reply not only to My first reply,but also to My second reply to Myself,if that makes any Sense at all?.I just Hope all the Other’s Whom left Theyr’e comments concerning Jack Van Impe do Not read My own reply to Myself,because then They all May think I am the One Whom is Out of Touch with the Issue being Discussed in this Forum,Being Mr Van Impe,Whom the spirit of the Anti-Christ could be using this Forum,Soo that Every One is Soo focused not Only on what Van Impe is Declaring as the Truth,but Also just as the Apostle Paul told Timothy to “Not wrangle with words”,because it Only leads to the Destruction of the hearers Themselves.That is what could be happening in this Forum,with every One soo Intent on replying to Mr. Van Impe’s preaching His own View of the “Truth”,& or each Other’s own View of the “Truth”,the end Result is a “Tragic Loss” of Hearing the “Spirit of Truth” Speaking to “Each Individual” in this Forum.Just a Thought to Ponder for Any or All Whom take the Time to Understand My own “View & Understanding” of the “Spirit of Truth”
April 16, 2008 at 2:19 pm
as the song says it says he knew our name and caught it before we ever learned to breath we were with him before we were ever born. What do you know about that?
April 16, 2008 at 2:24 pm
it says that there shall be two dead in the streets of Isreal and everyone shall be happy they are dead. these two are moses and elijah but it also says in mathew if you may receive it John the Baptist is elijah
April 20, 2008 at 6:23 am
Jake, how do you know one is Moses? One for sure will be Elijah, but it doesn’t say who the other will be. How do you know it’s not Enoch? Enoch never died because God took him. There is reason enough not to say for sure that Moses is the other one. John the Baptist wasn’t received. He was killed. It also doesn’t say that everyone shall be happy the two witnesses are dead. It says those upon the Earth, but it doesn’t say everyone. That’s not a conclusion you should be jumping to. At the very least the 144,000 Jews will be here on Earth throughout the entire tribulation. Will they be happy?
April 22, 2008 at 7:47 am
It,seems as though the statement I made just a little less than a month ago,when I referred to the apostle Paul exhorting Timothy to “Not Wrangle with Words” was “Passed Over” it seems by Jesse & Jake,Whom both have “Valid Views” of the same “Scripture”,but it “Seems” to Me that the “Same Spirit of Truth”,which I also referred to in My last statement,just as “Christ Our Lord & Savior” made “Sure” that His very first “Twelve Disciples” knew that the “Spirit of Truth” would bring back to They’re memories after He would be “Delivered Unto Death” all He commanded from each other,which was to “Partake in His Body & Blood in Holy Communion & also to “Abide in Him”,& “Love One Another”,So that the world would know They indeed were His “Disciples Unto Death”.Indeed the Lord of Glory told His very Disciples in the gospel of John that “He lays down His life for His Friends”,Leaving behind the “Ultimate Example of Love”.Soo,in My view to Discuss all the other “Points & Truths of Scripture” indeed is “Wrangling with Words”,which will “Lead to the Destruction” of the “Hearers” if They have not come to a “Complete Comprehension” of “Christ’s Commands to His Disciples” First.By the way in My almost 31 years of being “Born Again” since August of 1977,This is the very “First Time” that I have come to a more “Complete Comprehension” of what “Christ Commanded & Demanded from His Disciples” & Now “All of Us as Well” I “Truly Believe”
April 22, 2008 at 4:36 pm
The word says if you may receive it john the baptist is elijah, so elijah is JESUS’ cousin John the Baptist and we are all going to be here through the tribulation.
daniel is a whole book of end time prophecy shadrack, meshack, and abendigo went through the tribulation but he was with them the whole time it says in psalms 91 a thouand shall fall at thy side and ten thousand at thy right hand but none shall come nigh thee, and only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. what do you think of that james n jesse.
in acts it speaks of steven looking up to heaven and JESUS is standing at the right hand of the father all othe places it says he is sitting at the right hand of the father.
April 22, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Well Jesse,to Me all of what You just Pointed to Concerning the book of Daniel may be “Valid & True”,but Again it does Not “Cut to the Core” of the “True Spirit of Truth”,to which “Christ Himself” made “Sure” His “True Disciples”would “Heed & Adhere”to upon “His Departing” upon “That Old Rugged Cross”,which again Jesse I “Truly Believe” “Cuts to the Core” of the”Spirit of Truth”to “Partake” in His “Body & Blood” in the “Breaking of the Bread”&”Drinking the Wine”,which He Himself “Commanded”from His “Disciples”by the way,which was “Not an Option”,but an “Act of Obediance” in “Observance & Remembrance” of His “Act of Obediance” to the “Father Himself”which would “Truly Fulfill” all of “Scriptures”,way back in “Old Testament” times “Centuries” before Christ was even born, “Foretelling”of the of the “Messiahs Entrance” upon the “Ass of a Donkey” & “Subsequent Sufferings” such as “Being Bruised” for & in place of Our “Deserved Suffering” & the “Stripes He Bore” on His “Back”,even before “Hanging & Suffering” on the “Cross” for “Six” hours,not “Three” as Many “Falsely Believe”.So,in “Conclusion” Jesse,I Believe that the “True Commission” of the “True Spirit of Truth” is to “Bring to Light” & to “Follow” the “True Commission of Christ”,which is to “Abide” in “Rembrance” of “All” He “Suffered & Sacrificed” unto “His own Death”,then to “Love”One to Another” just as He “Loved” Them(Us too!).
April 22, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Well Jesse,to Me all of what You just Pointed to Concerning the book of Daniel may be “Valid & True”,but Again it does Not “Cut to the Core” of the “True Spirit of Truth”,to which “Christ Himself” made “Sure” His “True Disciples”would “Heed & Adhere”to upon “His Departing” upon “That Old Rugged Cross”,which again Jesse I “Truly Believe” “Cuts to the Core” of the”Spirit of Truth”to “Partake” in His “Body & Blood” in the “Breaking of the Bread”&”Drinking the Wine”,which He Himself “Commanded”from His “Disciples”by the way,which was “Not an Option”,but an “Act of Obediance” in “Observance & Remembrance” of His “Act of Obediance” to the “Father Himself”which would “Truly Fulfill” all of “Scriptures”,way back in “Old Testament” times “Centuries” before Christ was even born, “Foretelling”of the of the “Messiahs Entrance” upon the “Ass of a Donkey” & “Subsequent Sufferings” such as “Being Bruised” for & in place of Our “Deserved Suffering” & the “Stripes He Bore” on His “Back”,even before “Hanging & Suffering” on the “Cross” for “Six” hours,not “Three” as Many “Falsely Believe”.So,in “Conclusion” Jesse,I Believe that the “True Commission” of the “True Spirit of Truth” is to “Bring to Light” & to “Follow” the “True Commission of Christ”,which is to “Abide” in “Rembrance” of “All” He “Suffered & Sacrificed” unto “His own Death”,then to “Love”One to Another” just as He “Loved” Them(Us too!).
April 23, 2008 at 2:05 am
For some reason forum did a “Double” take on My previous response,in which I continously claimed was in response to Jesse,But was in fact in response to Jake concerning the book of Daniel.Also,after watching the Van Impe’s last episode concerning the mark of the beast via microchip in the forehead or the hand,&Although Jack Van Impe enthusiastically Delares that after the seven year reign of terror by the anti-christ,that Christ Himself will come setting His feet on the Mount of Olives to begin His Kingship & Reign for a Thousand Years,it came all too clear to Me in what seemed like a “Nano Second” like “Flash of Lightning” in My head,that Mr. Van Impe spends almost all of His air time “Glamorizing” the Coming of the “anti-Christ”,rather than spending what should be “All” of His “Air Time” “Preaching” & “Glorifying” the “True” “Gospel of Christ”
April 23, 2008 at 10:28 am
Jake, you’re right, Jesus did say that. But then John the Baptist was killed. That’s why I’m saying he wasn’t received. Most of the Israelites did not accept John as Elijah. James, it’s fine to debate on scripture as long as it doesn’t get too heated. There wasn’t even any scripture besides what was written in the Old Testament when Paul wrote that. If I see something I think should be corrected or want to add something to it, it’s my right as an American and Christian to do so. If the Spirit moves you, then move with the Spirit. That’s what I am doing.
To read something a little different, here’s a link: http://jnormanii.wordpress.com/
April 23, 2008 at 4:12 pm
it says the one that turned the water to blood and idk if its says the one that stopped or started the rain shall be with us in the end.
All Isreal Shall be saved.
but not all Isreal are of Isreal
April 23, 2008 at 4:12 pm
any thoughts James or Jesse?
April 23, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Well,first I respond to Jesse in agreemant that You have the right to Speak as the Spirit moves You to,as I do as well,& My motivation for Speaking on the Subject of the “Spirit of Truth” concerning Christ & how He commanded & exhorted His disciples to honor His forth-coming “Suffering & Sacrifice” by the support & strength of the “Spirit of Truth” which would come after His Accent back to His Father in Heaven,was the “Spirit of Truth” speaking & moving My spirit,& not My intention of speaking to correct or dis-agreeing with You Jesse or anybody in this forum Ok.Now in response to Jake,I am not quite certain I completely understand the first part where You speak concerning idk?.From My understanding & what I believe the “Spirit of Truth” has taught Me for the previous 30 years concerning Isreal is as You stated that not all Isreal is indeed Isreal,but Jehovah did Speak to the Isreal that He dis-placed to all corners of the earth because of They’re dis-obediance in inter-mingling with cultures of foreign countries & also worshipping the false gods of those foreign nations,that in the generation of the last days He would return a remnant of His people being the Isrealites back so that they will posess & inhabit the land once again upon “His Return”,which is in concordance to what I believe the “Spirit of Truth” has taught Me concerning the Isreal of the Past & Present.So Jake,is this what You feel & see the “Spirit of Truth” teaching You concerning Isreal of the Past & Present?
April 24, 2008 at 1:05 pm
When God said he would bring his people back to Israel, that was to happen before the end of the age, not after. Proof is that what happened. God did bring many of his chosen race back to Israel. What Jake rightfully said that not all Israel are of Israel is that some say they are Jews, but are not. But are liars. That is the Kenites who are the sons and daughters of Cain. They were a nomadic tribe until they settled in Israel, took up Jewish names, and wound up even being appointed to be scribes. Remember Jesus saying “woe to thee, scribes, pharisees, hypocrites!”? That’s who he was talking about. The scribes who were Kenites. The Kenites are the ones who say they are Jews but are not really Jews.
Jake, where does it say the one who turned the water to blood will be one of the witnesses? If that’s true, then that would definitely make him one of the two.
April 24, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Jesse,First I did not say “After” the end,what I said was “During” the “End of the Age” “In” the “Last Days” as I believe the “Lord Himself” told the Isrealites of “Those Days” in “That Generation”,&Secondly I think You have analyzed everything I have said concerning what I believe the “Spirit of Truth” has “Spoken to Me”,as I may have done in My first couple of responses to You as well.I believe We should “Allow Each Other” the “Freedom of Speech” without having to “Correct Each Other” every-time “Either One of Us” speaks concerning how the “Spirit of Truth” speaks to us as “Individuals,Ok Jesse?.
April 25, 2008 at 12:24 pm
I can hardly read what you write with all of the quotations all over the place.
April 25, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Thanks for the “Tip” Jesse,hopefully from now on I will “under-Quotationalize” so that My statements concerning what I believe the “Spirit of Truth” has Spoke & Revealed to Me will Speak & Reveal “His Truth” through My “speaking & qouting” Less.Ok,Jesse
April 26, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Don’t need to get so testy. I’m just saying that you have too many things in quotes. Maybe your “Spirit of Truth” could have let you know that on its own without me saying it. Ask some people and see if they have a hard time reading what you write and I bet they’ll say “yes”.
April 26, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Jesse,I was not being “Testy” at all,on the contrary I was being “Thankful”,& My(hopefully Our)”Spirit of Truth” was showing Me on It’s own,but just Maybe Jesse was being the Instrument through which I saw what the “Spirit of Truth” was showing Me about Myself.Soo Jesse,I think You took My Appreciating Your’e small,but “Timely” tip with a bit of “defensiveness”?.Anyway Jesse,Thanks again for the “timely tip”(whoops)-:)
April 26, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Jack and Rexella are vessels of God, in this last day. I would expect them to be persucuted for His names sake. The call of God is going forth. BEWARE YE MOCKERS!!!! BEWARE!!!!!! FOR GOD IS NOT MOCKED !!!!!!!!! HIS JUDGEMENT IS SOON TO COME!!!
April 28, 2008 at 7:59 am
Yes,Emily I completely concure that God will Not be Mocked,& as far as the Van Impe’s being Persecuted for Christ Himself,I have Recieved God’s conviction & truth through Many of Mr. Van Impe’s messages Concerning both the Coming of Christ & also the Appearing of the Anti-Christ first,just as I believe Christ Fore-Warned His very own disciples to watch for Coming of the Desolator that Daniel in the Old Testament also in His dream fore-saw of the very same Desolator,which in fact is the Anti-Christ Whom in the future will create a Peace Treaty which is supposed to last for seven years,but in the Middle of that time frame that False Peace Maker will Break the Treaty & Desolate the Temple & the Freedom of the Jews to Worship in the Temple.There is Much More to the Story,but it has been Mr. Van Impe’s Understanding & Vision of the Pre-Plot of this Desolater & then the Coming of the King Himself to Destroy the Destruction & the Destroyer & then Reign Forever as King of Kings & Lord of Lords,that has Confirmed what I believe the Lord Himself revealed to Me as long as 30 years ago when I became Born Again in the Spirit of the Lord.
April 28, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I am a king in the royal preisthood and a god with a little g.
April 28, 2008 at 1:07 pm
to have the mind of christ and he thought it not robbery to think himself equal with god.
And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
whatsoever we saith with our mouth we may have.
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
April 28, 2008 at 1:37 pm
The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.
The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
April 28, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Jake,You quote Scripture quite well & all of which You qouted in Scripture is quite True,but are You quoting the last Two lines Pointing or Directing that Direct qoute at Me?Cause if You are I respectfully say “How Dare You”,but if You are just quoting that Scripture as a “General Referance” to all Whom are looking for “False Signs” then that may alright if You are quoting that Scripture in the “Right Context”,which I think You may have taken “Out of Context” to what I was Confirming of Jack Van Impe’s preaching concerning the “Signs” of the coming of the Anti-Christ,which if You remember in the Gospels that Our Lord Himself admonished that generation because They were Looking for “False Signs” in the Sky & Whom were not even Recognizing the “Signs” of the those times or the Signs of the “Times to Come”,of which as I qouted in My response to Emily,Christ did “Fore-Warn” His twelve disciples to indeed watch for the “Signs” of the Times,both When & How the Anti-Christ would & will be “Revealed”which is completely “Opposite” of Looking to the Sky for Signs of the “Coming of Christ”.Because as We both know Jake that Christ coming in the flesh was already the “Sign” as He Himself declared that the “Kingdom of God” is at hand & the “Kingdom of God” is Within through being Born Again & Abiding in Him through the Indwelling Presence & Power of the Holy Spirit.Soo,in the future Jake please be very careful when You make Referance & Qoute those last two lines directly to another person Refering Christ’s Comment to Peter which is a completely seperate context concerning Christ & His death on the Cross.
April 29, 2008 at 12:32 pm
it was directed toward you but that when scripture is spoken the blood of the lamb is poured over you at that moment. that how JESUS did satan in the desert he put scripture to all he said it says in Hosea we are destroyed for our lack of knowledge.
What ponders me real hard is when John of Patmas says there was a silence of half- an hour were he heard things nlawful for man to hear. what was said?? what did he hear exactly? thats what ponders me real hard.
April 29, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Thanks Jake for explaining what You meant concerning the Scripture in Your’e last response to Me.I apologize for taking it way too Personal as an Attack or Accusation of being Aligned with the Enemy,& just to make Sure did You mean in qouting that Scripture the “Blood of the Lamb” was “Poured over Me” as being “Blessed” & “Covered” by the “Blood of the Lamb?.Also that Scripture in Hosea concerning being destroyed by “Lack of Knowledge” I believe was “Only” directed to the Chosen People of Jehovah being the Nation of Isreal in the Old Testament.The language of the New Testament is quite differant concerning the “Destruction of the Hearer’s” as Paul admonished & exhorted Timothy & for Timothy to Preach the Word both “In” Season or “Out” of Season,in which Paul warned Timothy that there would be those Whom would Only follow after Teaching that will Tickle the Ears,Especially in the “Last Days”
April 30, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Jake,after pondering Your’e question concern the Scripture in Revelation,which I have not read or remember reading for soo long,it is a pondering question indeed.But,I believe what is more & most important Scripture to not ponder,but to Heed as the Scripture in Hebrews states as a Command of Jehovah,which He commanded of His people in the Old Testament,that if We hear His voice to not harden Our hearts,as a result not reach His sacred place of rest,just as His people in those times heard yet still hardened They’re hearts.
May 1, 2008 at 3:05 am
No scripture is for private interpretation.
It just ponders me what was heard.
it says Behold ive shown you all things so i wonder where he told us??
May 1, 2008 at 7:41 am
Well Jake,I would think that 30 minutes of silence when John of Patmos heard those unlawful secrets to the ears of all mankind,He must have been lifted to a dimension in Heaven which maybe no other human had ever seen or witnessed,which would explain how John would have recieved the revelations of the end times & the breaking open of the “Seven Seals”,also when He came face to face with the “fallen one” rebuking him in the Name of Christ”.Soo,all that being true,I am not surprised that John indeed heard things during those 30 minutes which no other human had or will ever hear?This is just one possibility,if this explanation is being answered in the proper context at all?
May 1, 2008 at 8:06 pm
I don’t know what was heard in that period of time James, but I think that goes along with what Jesus said to his disciples when they asked him why he speaks to everyone in parables. Jesus answered them saying basically that they can’t handle him saying things openly, so only to the disciples will he speak openly.
Like in Matthew 24:3 when the disciples as Jesus the signs of the end of the world, they were really asking for the signs of the end of the age. Not world. “αιων” is the Greek word for age, and that’s what the original word was before the translation of the King James. Not only were they asking for signs of the end of the age and saying Jesus’ return means the end of it, but you can conclude that the reason why they even know to ask about the end of the age was because Jesus told them about it. How would they know to ask about the end of the age unless Jesus told them?
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May 1, 2008 at 8:07 pm
correction to typo…. when the disciples asked Jesus….
May 2, 2008 at 1:21 am
James awesome you hit right exactly what i was speaking of if we knew that it would finish it all.
May 2, 2008 at 11:50 am
Jake,thanks for confirming & affirming that I have recieved some understanding of the Awesome revelations of God,not that I should need confirming & affirming from any other source than the Awesomeness of God Himself,but it does not hurt to hear it from another brother in Christ,right?-:).And,Jesse,I agree & affirm that the “signs of the times” to which Christ was referring to was indeed concerning the “end of the age”,(Whoops)there I go again with those annoying quotations-:)!Ya know I think Jake Jesse & James(Me)are starting to have some sapattico,& it took awhile,but I finally feel as though I am on the same page with both Jake & Jesse.Thanks for being patient & taking time to explain both of Your’e views of God’s Awesome Revelations & Truths with Me Ok.By the way,I look forward to the three of us sharing & coming to a more fuller & deeper understanding of the Awesome Revelation & Truth of God in the future,Maybe even exchanging e-mails if we are all compfortable with that idea?.So for now,take care My brothers in Christ.
May 2, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Seems so. Not a problem.
May 2, 2008 at 7:22 pm
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May 3, 2008 at 8:26 am
Thanks Jesse-:),talk to Ya soon.
May 3, 2008 at 9:12 pm
I’m sure that you all know that Satan’s lies are usually mostly truth with a little bit of a lie sprinkled in with it to add a little flavor. Truth is not something that is sold. If all of this information is really that important for the world to know it would be absolutely free. I do know that it takes money to spread information, but there are many people who spreading truth that do not take the capitalistic approach that J-Vimp does. Look at people like Alex Jones who sells his movies but also posts them online for free and encourages people to duplicate them and hand them out for free. Vimp used to give his information away for free but something changed.
May 4, 2008 at 5:19 am
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May 4, 2008 at 10:57 am
First to Joshua I say “very astute observation”concerning Mr. Van Impe.I seem to recall the Apostle Paul Himself echoing the very same Truth,when He declared that as a Minister of God,that He had every right to ask for financial support to aid His expenses while He was traveling from town to town through the regions of Rome for the “sole purpose” of spreading the “Gospel of Christ”.Yet,at the very same time Paul also claimed that He worked for His own “financial support” so as to not add to the financial burdens of the churches He would travel to.Also Joshua,You are telling the “Truth” when You claim that the “Deciever” knows how to “Qoute” the Truth & yet Sprinkle just enough “Deception” to lead even those Whom belong to & follow the Lord astray,just as just as the “Deciever” did the very first time to Eve in the Garden of Eden.Which brings Me to My final point in Adressing Joshua as a fellow “brother in Christ” for the very “first time”,which I was originally going to Address My other “brother in Christ” Jake,Whom has become quite used to My many statements in”Quotations-:)”,which is quite Eerie because the Revelation I recieved just before reading Your’e statement Joshua was what I was ready to reveal to Jake concerning the Over-Riding message of Mr.Van Impe’s Preaching,which is of course the Events & Times leading up to the Appearing of the Anti-Christ & His short lived False Rule to be Followed by the Triumphant Return & Reign of Our Glorious Lord & King Forever-:)!,But,the Catch in the Message of Mr. Van Impe which is ever so Sly & Over-Looked even in His best Intention is that the “True Gospel” of which Christ Himself Preached & Proclaimed even though He did Once Proclaim to His disciples to watch for the Coming of the “Desolator”,Yet His Preaching to the Masses was not Intended for the Purpose of Saving the Masses from the Rule & Reign of the “Anti-Christ”,but on the Contrary the True Message of the Gospel of which I believe Christ Preached was to Save the Masses from being Slaves to “Sin & Satan”,as Christ Himself Proclaimed in the Gospel of John where He Declared that the Thief comes to Steal & Destroy,but when the Son set’s You free,You are free indeed & finally adding that You shall know the Truth & the Truth shall set You free!.Because the Spirit of Truth tells Us the Truth & sets Us free to Live the Truth.Amen-:)!
May 4, 2008 at 11:58 am
P.S.My above Thesis or should I state as an Anti-Thesis to what Jack Van Impe appears to be “Falsely Preaching?” to be Saved from the Appearing of the Anti-Christ,which I stated to Joshua that I was originally intending that Anti-Thesis to Jake,Whom is also Included as My other “brother in Christ-:),but I meant to say Jesse in His statement in reply to Joshua,of which I quickly want to express to Jesse that I clicked onto the Link which You provided,specifically concerning Bill Maher making fun & cutting Our belief in Christ along with Willie Nelson.I should think They would spend more time cutting the dangerous beliefs of Scientoligists,Whose leaders from what I understand spend hours if not days at a time at a “secret compound” somewhere in California “in-doctrinating” & in My opinion”brain washing” new converts into Believing that “extra-terrestrials” invaded the Earth many Centuries ago & have Invaded or Posessed bodies of Humans,of which I believe what the Apostle Paul stated is “doctrines of demons”,although when Paul made that statement He was not specifically refering to “aliens”of which I have No doubt of life forms on other Planets of God’s Creation,which Christ Himself may have been “refering” to when He claimed that there are other “Sheep” of which He must Save,which They(the disciple have not known)?.Ya know,now that I come to think of it could it have been the main motivation of Tom Cruise(Whom as We all know is One of Most Powerful Preacher’s & Believer’s in Scientology)in the “making & starring” in the movie “war of the worlds”?.What do Ya think Jesse,Jake & Joshua?
May 5, 2008 at 5:38 am
I think really that most things that people come up with as far as different beliefs go is the doctrine of men. High-minded and absurdly conceited men. Tom Cruise didn’t make “War of the Worlds”. It was a book written by H.G. Wells, and Steven Spielberg directed the movie. That movie in fact was the second one made of that book. I don’t think Bill Maher is a scientolgist. I think he’s just one of those super-conceited people who think they know everything but really don’t know a darn thing.
As we’ve been talking about, Satan and the false prophet(s) will use much of the word of God to tell lies, and will do so expertly. I think those are the doctrines of demons. The pagan religion also is of the doctrine of demons. The worshipping of Ba’al, the fertility god of the pagans and also the deity of Venus, lead to Israel’s downfall. At only one occasion is the word Lucifer mentioned in the Holy Bible, and that is in Isaiah 14. Lucifer in the Hebrew tongue means “morning star”. Venus is the morning star, and I don’t think that’s a coincidence. Ba’al might have been a fertility god to the pagans, but he could have been much more. Ba’al, Ba’alzebub. My belief is that Ba’al was actually Lucifer after his judgment that made him Satan.
May 5, 2008 at 7:48 am
Jesse, I did not comment on Bill Maher believing that He is a Scientologist,because He has never as Yet confirmed either way belonging or not belonging the the Belief in Scientology,also I know that Tom Cruise did not Make the Movie “war of the worlds”,already knew this was a re-make of the original movie steming from H.G.Wells book.But what I was commenting on specifically was in concern that Mr. Maher & Willie Nelson should be much more concerned about dangerous cults which prey on People’s fears & weakness,not to mention subdue People through subversive tactics.Also thanks Jesse for Your’e pointing out scriptures which point out what We have been commenting back & forth concerning the deceptions of false prophets Whom actually claim They are prophets coming in the Name of Christ,but in Truth are out to “steal & destroy” the “True Flock of Christ.
May 5, 2008 at 7:50 am
Jesse, I did not comment on Bill Maher believing that He is a Scientologist,because He has never as Yet confirmed either way belonging or not belonging the the Belief in Scientology,also I know that Tom Cruise did not Make the Movie “war of the worlds”,already knew this was a re-make of the original movie steming from H.G.Wells book.But what I was commenting on specifically was in concern that Mr. Maher & Willie Nelson should be much more concerned about dangerous cults which prey on People’s fears & weakness,not to mention subdue People through subversive tactics.Also thanks Jesse for Your’e pointing out scriptures which point out what We have been commenting back & forth concerning the deceptions of false prophets Whom actually claim They are prophets coming in the Name of Christ,but in Truth are out to “steal & destroy” the “True Flock of Christ.
May 5, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Rev.11
[1] And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
[2] But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
[3] And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
[4] These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
[5] And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
—–>>>>[6] These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.<<<<——–
[7] And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
[8] And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
[9] And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
[10] And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
[11] And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
[12] And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
[13] And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Elijah and Moses are the two at the end times
Daniel 12
10 – Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 – And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 – Blessed [is] he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 – But go thou thy way till the end [be]: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days
To my Brothers in JESUS CHRIST
May 5, 2008 at 1:13 pm
The power to stop the rain is Elijah he stopped it for like 2 1/2 years and the turning the water to blood is obviously moses.
May 5, 2008 at 11:04 pm
That’s talking about the power the two witnesses will have, which will be given to them by God. That’s not specifically telling us the ones who did those things in the past will be the two witnesses. It might be a good assumption to make, but it’s not saying that for sure. God’s elect will have the power to do miracles as well. Who knows what all they’ll be able to do.
May 6, 2008 at 2:03 am
Jake,all of the Scriptures in Your’e last response,Valid & True as they are,I think it may be Over the Top a Little or a Lot for many Whom are Not as yet Accustomed or able to Comprehend the Meat of such Scriptual Truth.As much as My spirit is able to Grasp the Scriptual Truth of which You are Qouting,Maybe after Your’e finished You could Explain what the Scriptures are Applying to & to Whom?Just a Brotherly Tip to a fellow Brother in Christ,Just as My fellow Brother Jesse,Tipped Me to stating too much in “Qoutes”.
May 6, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Ill find more and post later but this tells when they come, and when the end is at hand, ill explain more later
May 7, 2008 at 11:27 am
Thanks Jake,maybe a little More explanation & a little Less quoting of too many Scriptures all at Once-:)Ok.Speaking of explanation,after reading three articles in Jack Van Impe’s monthly magazine entitled “Perhaps Today”,each of the three articles explained in detail with clear & concise explanation just how He came to Believe in the Rapture & the Appearing of the Anti-Christ,but most importantly in one of the most profound articles I have ever read in which He includes statements of other’s in his article,entitled”Talk is Cheap when it Comes to Love”,explains in such “Vivid Detail” the “Physical Price” that Our “Sweet Saviour” Paid in “Our Place”.The picture above the article shows a mini replica of the “Crown of Thorns” worn by (quoting the masterful words of doubting Thomas Himself) “My Lord & Master”.The other two articles of which the first entitled”Information World Control” is the very first article starts on the second page through page 4,&the third article entitled “He’s coming through that Door” starting on page 19 through 23 will explain with such clarity a view of exactly what City & Building the Anti-Christ just may step out & make His entrance known to the “Whole World”.I would really “Advise & Exhort” especially to My fellow “Brothers in Christ” Jake & Jesse,but also Joshua & “All Other’s” Whom read this response of Mine.To order the Magazine(make sure to ask for the May/June issue) the direct ordering # I believe is 1-800-JVI-7777.
May 10, 2008 at 10:24 am
I forgot to add in My last response that the article in Jack Van Impe’s magazine entitled “Talk is Cheap when it Comes to Love”, in which Van Impe emparts a Glimpse of the Physical & Soul Suffering that Christ the Lord was not only Required,but Willing to Pay,which is why I was Caught completely Off-Guard,because all of the Messages which He preaches on His weekly Program always seems to Magnify the signs of the Appearing of the Ant-Christ,rather than Preparing for the Coming of the True Christ,which if Van Impe is so sure of the Rapture then there is absolutely no need for Christians to see the Signs of the Appearing of the Anti-Christ,because all of Us Whom are Christians will be Saved from the Great Tribulation of that 7 Year Reign of the Ant-Christ.Also as I have Stated in an earlier response that Christ did “Not” Preach the Gospel of Salvation to be Saved from the Great Tribulation,but to be Saved from being Slaves of Sin & the Evil One Himself.Which leads Me to also having the Need to Mention the Preaching of one Joel Osteen the “Feel Good Preacher” of which it Strikes to the Heart of the Truth at least to Me,that the very reason He has Recieved that Title is Due to the Reason that if Joel would Preach the True Gospel which Gives the True Picture of the Un-Fathamable Physical & Soul Suffering in which Christ cried Tears of Blood the very night before His Crucifixion,Then the “Pretty Picture” of the “False Gospel” of which in “My Opinion” Joel Osteen Preaches,Then the Flocks which not only Flow but Overflow to the Arenas around the Country,may Suddenly start to “Turn Away” from the Arena’s because not wanting to either Hear or See a Glimpse of the “Gory Details” of the Crucifixion.Cause if the Flocks Over-Flowing to these Arenas around the Country were Faced with Hearing & Glimpsing the “Gorryiness of the Crucifixion” then there would be Nothing for Them to Feel Good either about “Christ or Themselves”,which is just My own “Glimpse of the Truth”.
May 12, 2008 at 10:09 am
Just as I believe the Lord has been convicting Me lately concerning both Jack Van Impe & also Joel Osteen,I believe the Lord has confirmed His conviction concerning both Jack & Joel by watching both of They’re programs last night.In both cases Jack & Joel pretty much repeated They’re same old “Slogans” in which Jack once again “Hammered” the point to “Death” as far as I am concerned,concerning the Appearing of the Anti-Christ & the Mark of the Beast,of which My response is “Enough is Enough”.When is Jack going to Preach & Magnify the Gospel According to Christ Himself,which is to “Recieve & Magnify” Him as the “Lord & Master” of Our lives & to “Abide in Him” through the “Spirit of Truth” & to go into All nations “Bearing Fruit” for “His Kingdom”.As far the Lord’s confirmation I believe concerning Joel Osteen in which He also seemed to repeat a False “Tickling of the Ears” of Everyone to Believe that God is going to bring Them to a “Higher Place” of “Success” concerning They’re “Jobs or Careers”,of which has no “Bearing” on the Truth,which I believe the “Higher Place” of which “Christ Spoke” is to bring us into the “True Success” of being brought to that “Higher Place” in which “Our Spirit’s” will “Dwell & Magnify” the Very “Prescence & Power” in Our “Daily Lives”,of which are being “Missed & Passed” Over in the Preaching of both “Jack & Joel”(Wolves in Sheeps Clothing?).
May 14, 2008 at 12:05 pm
When you are riding a gravy train, you don’t change the biscuit wheels to cookies.
May 15, 2008 at 9:27 am
Ah Yes Jesse,Point Well Spoken.Succint & to the Point.See Jesse,I can Comment & Respond without One Quotation.Not only no Qoutations,but also Short & to the Point.What is the matter James,surely You have another Long-Winded Sermon to Pontificate in which You will Once again Clang the Symbols without Love in Your’e Tone towards both Jack & Joel?.Well,Everybody it is Not that I have no Love for Jack or Joel as Fellow Human’s,it is just that I have No Love for what both Jack & Joel seem to Conveniantely or even Consciously(?)leave Out in both of They’re Preaching,which just Seems that much more Blatent & Obvious every Week.How much more Blatently Obvious can either Jack or Joel be by waiting until the very end of both They’re programs & just as a Reminder it seems to accept Christ as Lord & Savior,when neither Jack or Joel spend any of the preceding time in They’re programs preaching why People need to turn They’re lives over to Christ as Lord & Savior.It’s more like,Oh by the way before I Jack or Joel end My Exhalted Preaching & Program,make Sure to Ask the Lord to accept You,Soo that I Jack & Joel can end Our Preaching & Program with a Clean & Clear Conscious.I James know this Again may Come Across as Clanging the Symbol of Judgement,which I certainly have No right to Judge,but then Again,just Maybe the Lord Himself is giving Me the Spirit of Discernment concerning the Preaching of both Jack & Joel?Maybe the Point in Discerning the Preaching of Another as Jack & Joel is Not soo Much in Discerning what They do Preach,but what They do Not Preach.Just as when the serpant shrewdly told Eve exactly what She would Gain by Partaking in the Forbidden fruit,but even more Shrewdly left Out exactly what She would Lose,which would be Perfect Harmony with the Lord Almighty!
May 16, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Just as an added Foot-Note to My previous comment as a Confirmation concerning Van Impe & Osteen both Preaching everything but the True message of the Gospel of Christ which was & is to be Saved by His act of Atonemant & Sacrificing His very Life upon the Cross,which the Apostle Paul confirmed in His very Own preaching & admonishing to a Church which Paul started on the very Precipt of Salvation via Christ sacraficing His very Life upon the Cross,when Paul preached & pronounced to that Particular church that when came to visit the People of that Congregation that He desired to know Nothing from Them except “Christ & Him Crucified”,which Paul Confirmed in Person by the Demonstration of the very Prescence & Power of the Spirit,which is the “Very Sign” of which Christ Proclaimed to His very Disciples on the very Day of Pentacost would be Demonstrated upon They’re Proclaiming “Christ & Him Crucified”,of which in My discernment is Missing in both Van Impe’s & Osteen’s Preaching for the “Sole Reason” that They seem to Resist & Refuse to Preach upon the very Precept upon Christ Himself Proclaimed to Peter would be the very Rock & Foundation of Christ’s Church which would be built by the Twelve Disciples & later Paul by Preaching Only “Christ & Him Crucified”.Find a Church in which a Preacher or Pastor or even a Priest Whom is Willing to Preach only “Christ & Him Crucified”,then there is the Church where Christ will be Truly Magnified & Glorified by the very same Signs & Wonders which will be Demonstrated by the very Presence & Power of the Spirit Himself!.Amen
May 18, 2008 at 5:51 am
what a “man of god” jack van impe is. only a man of god would charge $25 per dvd. if he really thought his dvd’s were profound and would save souls, he would give them out for free. it’s not like his dvd’s have huge budgets like hollywood films and need to generate enough revenue to pay for the production costs. it’s just old-fashioned greed.
spider-man 2 dvd – $14.95
global id: 666 dvd – $24.95
AMEN for wealth!
May 18, 2008 at 9:23 am
Hey Heywood,I think Your’e comment concerning Mr. Van Impe was rhetorical,correct?,of which if true then I completely agree with Your’e assurting that if He was Truly concerned with saving Souls,then Van Impe would Indeed send out copies for Free,or at the very least Half the Price.But,now that I come to think of it don’t even Christian book stores Charge even More for a Bible.I would think that the one Book which Reveals the very Truth of Whom God is & how We are to be One with Him,would be the One book for Free!.Soo,Even Christians are Guilty of Greed by With-Holding the very Word of God in the Bible,by Forcing a Christian or Anybody else for that matter to Pay in order to Own what Should be Free!.Or is it Just Me for Thinking this?
May 18, 2008 at 12:32 pm
There’s a big difference between JVI and a Christian bookstore. JVI is supposedly a Christian teacher, doing this to make an extra profit by promoting his own teaching while preying on the fears of his followers. The profits for his dvd’s are then funneled into his hairspray budget. JVI sells these dvd’s solely to make more money, not to “enlighten” people. A bookstore is just a business that sells Bibles and other Christian books. Nothing wrong with making a profit if you’re a business. A church isn’t a business.
May 18, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Jesse,I agree with Your’e assurtion concerning JVI supposedly a Christian teacher,Whom should be teaching the Masses to Recieve the Saving Grace of God which is found Only through the Sacrificing Act of Christ upon the Cross.Certainly not out of a False Fear of 2012 or the Anti-Christ.But Jesse,in Many Ways it Appears to Me as though Too Many churches have become Too Much of a Money Making Business,by Using the Selling of Books,Especially the Bible.
May 19, 2008 at 1:04 pm
That’s absolutely true, James. They do seem to be concentrating more on how to make money for “their ministry” than saving souls. The Bible tells us we should pay a tithe to the church we go to to help pay for things such as the teachers salary (they should live comfortably but not extravagantly), bills, and to use the money to come up with ways to save souls as well as the church being a beacon for charitable giving. Certainly all too often that’s not the case. JVI is a very rich man and that’s not what God intends his teachers to be on his word. The money that goes to them should mostly go to the ministry so they can do things like give Bibles away for free. They get tax exempt status so that attracts crooks to use christianity as a scam. JVI might have started out as a real teacher, but he’s definitely in it for the money now and has been for a long time. Anyone who really thinks this guy is a real teacher of God’s word has blinders the size of cathedral doors on. He’s not a teacher. He’s a profiteer.
May 20, 2008 at 9:07 am
Jesse,I could Not have expressed it anymore Perfect than You did in expressing that teachers Whom have been Ordained by God Himself or even those Whom falsely claim to be Ordained teachers of God’s Word,should Not use They’re position to make Godless sums of money,or Any money at all in My opinion.And,I intend to agree to a Large degree that JVI is Profiteering Falsely at this Present Time by Not even Proclaiming the Gospel,but Sensationalizing the Signs & Appearing of the Anti-Christ & Using the Mark of the Beast to Falsely Motivate people to Accepting Christ as They’re Lord & Savior out of Fear,Instead Accepting Christ from the Purest of Motivation of Love by being Convicted of Christ taking Our Place upon the Cross.JVI appears to be so Sincere as does Joel Osteen as I have expressed Many times now at the end of both They’re programs They seem to just add as Footnote or Reminder for people to Accept Christ as The’yre Lord & Savior,but up until then it is All too Obvious at Least to Me that Jack or Joel do Not even Claim or Proclaim Christ as Lord or Savior of They’re Own lives,Especially it Appears to Me even More in Joel’s case.Because if Joel were to Claim His Allegiance to Christ,then He would also have to Speak Out & Up for the very same Rights & Wrongs of the World,which Christ also Spoke.I have also Lost hearing the Voice of Christ through Jack as well,which is soo Opposite of Whose voice I apparently thought I was hearing at the very Beginning of watching JVI.This Sunday,for the first Week in Months I watched Neither Jack nor Joel in Hope of Once again hearing Only the Voice of Christ as My personal Lord & Savior!.All this being Said,My advice to Everyone is Not to “Buy In” to Jack Van Impe’s or Joel Osteen’s claim of leading People to Christ,When neither One of them will Proclaim that Christ is the Only Way & the Only Truth & the Only Life,& Only those Whom will Recieve & Follow Christ will inherit
Eternal Life with Him in Heaven.Has Anybody in this Forum ever heard Van Impe or Osteen proclaim that Truth on They’re programs?.
May 23, 2008 at 8:49 am
Well it has been a few Days now since My last Comment,when I once again Harped & Harshly Criticized both Van Impe & Osteen for Missing what Should be the Central Theme of both Theyr’e Preaching & Programs being Salvation through Christ’s Death & Ressurection.Wow,that was the Shortest & to the Point of My Harping Jack & Joel yet-:).Anyway,Everybody Whom has been taking the They’re time to Read My way Too many Harranging Comments,I do Apologize Ok?Anyway,just One more Insight or Revelation which I just Recieved is that Van Impe on One Hand seems to Harp on the Rapture,then on the Other Hand seems to Harp on the Mark of the Beast.So,if We as the Beloved of Christ are Raptured & have No reason to concern Ourselves with the Mark during the Seven Year Tribulation,then Why is He Harping on Both.Does Anybody else See the Contradiction?
May 28, 2008 at 7:45 am
Yeah, any lawyer that received their education from Cracker Jack University could easily take down Van Impe and all these doomsdayers who believe in the rapture for every Tom, Dick, and Harry Christian. Again the reason for him preaching both is money. There’s a lot of money preaching about the end times, and most of them won’t even acknowledge that it’s just the end of the age and that there is another age after this one even. They either aren’t educated about it (which is sad) or they don’t see the profit in judgment waiting for another age to come.
May 29, 2008 at 1:49 am
A verse I wish was in the Bible:
“And the super-rich were turned into hell, particularly all golden parachute CEOs, special interest lobbyists, and greedy televangelists who justify their lavish lifestyles by implying that Jesus would drive a Bentley too.” –Rev. 14:11
I’ll stop here, while I still breathe, and now repent of my evil deed by asking you to send what you can to Joel Osteen or Benny Hinn simply because they believe God wants their “ministries” to prosper “beyond what mortal man can fathom,” onward and upward beyond all known sciences of logic or thermodynamics or even mind control. Amen. (Oh, and if you’ve left them in your Will, be sure to order a deep dish pan pizza too, while watching the show. With extra cheese.)
justsaynoway.com
May 29, 2008 at 6:16 am
JVI by far preaches the most ridiculous message I have ever heard. I can’t believe people actually buy this junk. What a complete idiot.
JVI is just like the rest…a con artist filling ignorant peoples head with visions of man’s divinity….what a con. God was created by man to control man…it’s so sad that so many people waste their entire lives believing in something so passionately that doesn’t exist.
May 30, 2008 at 6:53 am
Dman, obviously you haven’t read the Bible. If you read it and actually studied it, you would see that there are things written that can’t be explained away. Let’s look at the attempts man has made to prove that the Bible is not real. First they said there was no Jesus. Then they decided there was too much evidence showing he did exist. Then they said there was no such thing as crucifixion. Then they said “well we’ve found proof of crucifixion”. They said the flood never happened. Now they say “there’s scientific evidence that a flood did happen”. Then they said there’s no Noah’s Ark. Then there’s the thing in ice sitting on Mount Ararat. Right where the Bible said it was.
May 30, 2008 at 11:25 am
Well Jesse,it is all too Obvious the Dman is in spiritual Ddarkness,of which Only the Spirit of Truth will deliver the Dman into the Glorious Light of the Lord,of which I have been so Blessed to Believe & Recieve the Glorious Light & Love of God.I pray that the Dman will Recieve & See the same Glorious Light & Love of which We both have Jesse!!Amen
June 1, 2008 at 5:37 am
Yep, I agree, but it is a tough hill to climb when a person thinks they know it all and belittles those who he thinks aren’t smart. That’s a steep climb indeed.
June 17, 2008 at 6:20 am
Thanks Dman. As long as there are ‘scoffers’ out there then biblical prophecy continues to be proven true. “…there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts…”
II Peter 3:3
Any Christians out there ever know a non-believer who actually read the Bible so they could effectively participate in discourse about the subject? Not me…. it’s like all these Atheists, Agnostics, and Satanists are always trying to critique a movie they’ve never even watched.
June 17, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Amen to that jnh!!
June 17, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Well put. That’s what I said. The ego in the world today is monumental. Only today would people be speaking as if it were coming from a point of view of fact about a subject in which they have no idea what they are talking about. As it says in the Song of Moses, if they were as wise as they thought they are, then they would know their latter end. That takes some massive conceit. In our lifetime it’s going to be interesting to see the reactions when all these “know it all’s” have the words of God smack them right in the face. At the blowing of the seventh trump the mystery of God will be finished. Everybody will then know. The shattering sound of their egos crashing to the ground will be deafening.
June 30, 2008 at 7:57 am
lord jesus forgive me my sins. cleanse me once more as you did at the time of my
accepting you as lord and savior.ive gone very far away i didnt know i could be so far
away.i dont claim to have all this knowledge such as 269 others iam as the sinner who
beat upon his chest and would not dare lift his eyes toward heaven but beg forgiveness
for my own sins. amen amen.
June 30, 2008 at 9:44 am
If you will not dare lift your eyes toward heaven, how can you see where you’re going?
http://jnormanii.wordpress.com/
June 30, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Because God chose me, and I not him until He revealed Himself to me. Will not He keep me from being swept away by false teaching?
Yes, if we are seeking praying, fasting, studying His word. We are not to be frightend of these men, but let them serve as to make us more ernest in our race to recieve the victory that is already ours.
Be earnest as well when we fall to get back up and push on. We are bought and paid for by Christ. Push on! Don’t be side tracked by confusion.
Enjoy the Love and Peace Christ puts on your heart and let nothing tear you from it.
June 30, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Lev.19:18: “Love thy neighbor as thyself.”
July 16, 2008 at 4:22 am
Dear Readers of the above article:
Test the words of Dr. and Mrs. Van Impe. Test them according to scripture and I think you will see no error in what he preaches. I believe the author of the above article to be mean spirited (I don’t know why!) But I watch Jack Van Impe every week, and feel my week is not complete unless I wath their show. He is teching us God’s word with no inerrancy that I am aware of. Beware of those who try to try to make something bad out of what God and his Son Jesus gave us to be good…that being God’s word being taught in it’s truth and purity…as Dr. Van Impe to me is doing!!!
July 16, 2008 at 6:31 am
Is that why he lives in a mansion in Michigan? I don’t think God intends his teachers to live lavishly off of teaching the Bible to people. JVI takes the paranoia with end time teaching to make a big profit. This is beyond debate. Find out where he lives and the money he has and tell me I’m making something bad out of something good. As far as scripture goes, JVI is always teaching to get ready to be raptured up. Ezekial 13:20 says that God is against teachers who teach their flock “how to fly”. In the last generation prophets will be here but ordinary Christians get to escape? I don’t think so. The Bible teaches us to put on our armour of truth in the end times. Doesn’t sound like anyone gets to escape. http://jnormanii.wordpress.com/
July 21, 2008 at 8:05 am
Wake up.Who are you?Find out by accepting Jesus as your saviour.Know what it is like to be filled with the Holy Sprit and you will see the Truth.God Bless Jack van Impe and his ministry.
July 23, 2008 at 12:07 am
Did I say something wrong? God is okay with his teachers to be rich off of his word instead of using the money towards the actual ministry? Gee, I didn’t know that. God’s a master capitalist I guess. “Make all the money you want off of me. Sell dvd’s for even more money. Live in a mansion. Be an example for all who want a good ‘get rich quick’ scheme to shoot for and show them that God =’s money.” Is that what you think God says? That’s exactly what Van Impe has done. He’s a charlatan and a profiteer.
God doesn’t say in Ezekial 13:20 to His teachers not to teach your flock how to fly? What do you think that means? Airplanes? A Michael Jordan height verticle leap? No, he means the rapture. That’s another thing JVI teaches. You’re not filled with the Holy Spirit because one thing the Holy Spirit definitely does is know right from wrong. JVI being a rich man off of God’s word is as wrong as wrong can get. Argue that point instead of just asking me who I am.
August 1, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Hey Jesse, I’ve seen you use the Ezekial 13:20 alot in the past months or more. Can you look at Psalms 91:2-4, v.2: I will say of the Lord,He is my Refuge and my Fortress: my God:in Him will I trust.v3: Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. v.4: He shall cover you with His feathers and His wings shall You trust: His truth shall be your shield and buckler.
Psalms 124:6-8. v.6: Blessed be the Lord, Who has not given us as a prey to their teeth. v.7: Our soul is escaped as a bird out of the snare of the fowlers: the snare is broken, and we are escaped. v.8: Our help is the name of the Lord, Who made Heaven and Earth. JVI may preach the rapture but Ezekial 13:20 is not it.
dave
August 5, 2008 at 8:10 pm
THe antichrist is Javier Solana.
A position of power was created just for him when he declares that there is a state of emergency he gains control over the european union and all of the medditeranean. That is the whole roman empire. His name in hebrew means “Savior of light”. everything that God has the devil has a cheap imitation. The numeric value of his name is 666. He will be shot in the face and live. After which he will go into the Holy of Holys and declare he is God- The Abomination that Maketh Desolation. After this we are down to days before we will see God
August 6, 2008 at 7:15 pm
What does Ezekial 13:20 mean when it’s telling the teachers to not teach their flock how to fly? If it doesn’t mean the rapture, does it mean flying planes? I don’t think so. What you wrote is true about Psalms but it’s saying the truth will be your armor. Why would you need armor if you’re not here and are raptured?
August 13, 2008 at 8:14 am
Can’t any of you people learn to spell Ezekiel correctly?
August 13, 2008 at 9:14 am
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious… how’s that?
August 18, 2008 at 9:37 pm
I love the logic applied here. The bible is true because it says it is. How can it be the ‘only way’ if there are so many other religions that teach that they are also the ‘only way’? It’s silly and it’s about control.
It seems that for many, ignorance truly is bliss.
August 26, 2008 at 6:54 pm
That’s the marshmallow calling the kettle “black” a bit, isn’t it?
August 26, 2008 at 6:55 pm
http://jnormanii.wordpress.com/
September 10, 2008 at 7:58 pm
This guy is a total wack job. Just like ALL people who believe in the so called “holy” books. Christian, Jewish, Mormon, Islam, etc….the faster we rid the world of these supersticious beliefs…the better off we will all be!
October 23, 2008 at 9:55 pm
This was a long blog!! i just happened to stumble across this looking for a book. Well, I think I’ve read enough for the day. LOL
We can and should all agree to disagree with what everyone’s interpretation regarding Bible scripture and what it means to them. Unless you’re a scholar in Theology, the interpretations will continue to be diverse. The plain and simple of it is this, Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to Heaven. No man shall enter unless it’s through Him (Jesus). We are sinners and unworthy of grace through God’s eyes. He can’t look upon sin. Repentance through Jesus is our salvation. If we were perfect there would be no need for a savior. But because God knew people were sinners by nature, he had to send His son Jesus to pay the price for our sins so that we could have life and life more abundantly. We all fall short of the glory of God no matter how good a person we think we are. That’s just it, we’re an imperfect man so why would anyone think that by their own standards would deem ok with God. God is perfect so by his standards can we enter Heaven and we fall short of the glory so therefore, just being good isn’t going to get you to Heaven. So, hence we have Jesus Christ, to ask for forgiveness of the things we do wrong. The fact that we do good comes from our upbringing but we all still sin. Think bad thoughts, say cuss words here and there. We bring curses on ourselves and others when we speak badly of someone but we should repent and retract the things we say and do that can hinder us, our families, our future generations, and one another. Needless to say, we’re all sinners great and small and no one sin is greater than another. God equates all sin. So while, I am nice to someone, respectful to many, I attribute that to my parents and praise God for my Christian upbringing. But that’s not enough for God.
“Pick up the Cross”
Now, we all have our thoughts on “Is there a Rapture or Isn’t There??” Followers of Christ, and those who haven’t decided just yet, whether you believe that or not, will not get you into Heaven. You pick up the cross when you come to Christ and rather than telling each other what’s “factual” or “not factual” about you’re breakdown of what this or that verse’s interpretation was meant in laymen terms, how about we instead pick up the cross and be an example instead of making a mockery out of our “Faith”?? The smallest of things can be debated amongst all of you but is that really the way Jesus would want you spending your time; debating over who’s right and who’s not “quite” right?? I think not. He wants us to be in His word and live the life we should be living; an abundant life that he’ll give us if we pick up the cross; teaching and winning souls to Christ because Satan is here alive and well on this earth and seeks to steel, kill, and destroy all of us because he hates God and he wants us to hate him too. He could care less about what happens to us because our damnation is how he knows he can hurt God.
So, find Christ and accept His sacrifice for all of us. Witness, be good, and know that Jesus is all of our savior if we accept Him in our life and pick up the cross.
As far as JVI, love the show, but no man will get you to Heaven. You don’t worship your minister do you? You listen to their teachings and fellowship with others but ultimately it’s your choices that pave your way.
Frisco, Tx
Signing out!
October 23, 2008 at 9:57 pm
This was a long blog!! i just happened to stumble across this looking for a book. Well, I think I’ve read enough for the day. LOL
We can and should all agree to disagree with what everyone’s interpretation regarding Bible scripture and what it means to them. Unless you’re a scholar in Theology, the interpretations will continue to be diverse. The plain and simple of it is this, Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to Heaven. No man shall enter unless it’s through Him (Jesus). We are sinners and unworthy of grace through God’s eyes. He can’t look upon sin. Repentance through Jesus is our salvation. If we were perfect there would be no need for a savior. But because God knew people were sinners by nature, he had to send His son Jesus to pay the price for our sins so that we could have life and life more abundantly. We all fall short of the glory of God no matter how good a person we think we are. That’s just it, we’re an imperfect man so why would anyone think that by their own standards would deem ok with God. God is perfect so by his standards can we enter Heaven and we fall short of the glory so therefore, just being good isn’t going to get you to Heaven. So, hence we have Jesus Christ, to ask for forgiveness of the things we do wrong. The fact that we do good comes from our upbringing but we all still sin. Think bad thoughts, say cuss words here and there. We bring curses on ourselves and others when we speak badly of someone but we should repent and retract the things we say and do that can hinder us, our families, our future generations, and one another. Needless to say, we’re all sinners great and small and no one sin is greater than another. God equates all sin. So while, I am nice to someone, respectful to many, I attribute that to my parents and praise God for my Christian upbringing. But that’s not enough for God.
“Pick up the Cross”
Now, we all have our thoughts on “Is there a Rapture or Isn’t There??” Followers of Christ, and those who haven’t decided just yet, whether you believe that or not, will not get you into Heaven. You pick up the cross when you come to Christ and rather than telling each other what’s “factual” or “not factual” about you’re breakdown of what this or that verse’s interpretation was meant in laymen terms, how about we instead pick up the cross and be an example instead of making a mockery out of our “Faith”?? The smallest of things can be debated amongst all of you but is that really the way Jesus would want you spending your time; debating over who’s right and who’s not “quite” right?? I think not. He wants us to be in His word and live the life we should be living; an abundant life that he’ll give us if we pick up the cross; teaching and winning souls to Christ because Satan is here alive and well on this earth and seeks to steel, kill, and destroy all of us because he hates God and he wants us to hate him too. He could care less about what happens to us because our damnation is how he knows he can hurt God.
So, find Christ and accept His sacrifice for all of us. Witness, be good, and know that Jesus is all of our savior if we accept Him in our life and pick up the cross.
As far as JVI, love the show, but no man will get you to Heaven. You don’t worship your minister do you? You listen to their teachings and fellowship with others but ultimately it’s your choices that pave your way.
Frisco, Tx
Signing out!
November 3, 2008 at 11:17 am
Mark Herndon, are you aware that roman catholicism was in fact the FIRST form of christianity? I have news for ALL of you who feel that you are “special” in God’s eyes because you have chosen to call yourselves “born again christians.” You are the SAME as everyone else. We are life, and God’s divinity breathes within and through us all, thereby connecting everything in the universe. One of the reasons I find most “born-agains” difficult to stomach is their smug viewpoint that they are God’s elite crew and therefore better than everyone who is not “born-again”. They believe that their “truth” is whole and cannot/should not be questioned. Personally, I believe that God respects those who question and search for truth. I have spoken with God – and by that I truly mean that I had a conversation with God during a near-death-type experience when I was 12 years old. He told me to trust my feelings about “the way” and that no religion had a monopoly on truth. I later realized that ALL religions are flawed for this very reason: they all purport to have the answer. If an individual can worship God through his/her moment-to-moment actions and interactions, then what need is there to listen to puffed-up, wealthy celebrities like Jack Van Impe to interpret God’s word for you and tell you that you’re “special”? Each of us is qualified to do that for ourselves. I don’t need the promise of “special status” to worship God.
November 9, 2008 at 3:12 am
you obviously know nothing about the bible or end times events ! the antichrist will come from the EU and be either jew or muslim and come to power on the world scene. you should check your facts before you make idiotic stements !!!!
November 9, 2008 at 3:27 am
this post is for john majheur. first of all the catholics were the first to cover the truth and spread lies and yes im a former catholic . you are a bitter and confused man there is only 1 truth and that is jesus . anyhting else is a direct path to hell. the reason some christians act like they are better is brecause they are fake much like all of the sybolism in the cathloic church! a true christian is still human and still makes mistakes but they key is they repent and are forgiven. you really should read your bible (if you have one ) all the oneness and communing will get you nowhere if you havent accepted christ and also jack van impe is a man of God and if you choose not to honor him God will not honor you . he put him there for a reason just as God appointed saul as king of isreal. we all know saul lost his annointing and then the prophet samuel annoited david but david still honored saul even though he sought his life for no reason , but david knew that no man gets to his position unless God puts him there and thus honored his position. david had mutiple opportunities to eliminate saul but did not . JUDGE NOT john LEST YE BE JUDGED !!! i cant imagine how you can talk about christians when your comments are totaly critical and do NOT reflect someone who is close to God
November 10, 2008 at 8:00 am
You people are all nuts.
November 11, 2008 at 5:35 pm
This guy is all about selling books and tickets to his seminars, nothing more.
The bible is NOT a road map of secret codes predicting the apocalypse. It’s a manifesto of hope. It was not written for theological scholars, it was written for every day people. Anyone who tells you that only theologians can really interpret the bible is trying to sell you something.
November 11, 2008 at 7:44 pm
KILL ALL ATHEISTS!
DEATH TO NONBELIEF!
THE TRUE CHURCH LIVES FOREVER
November 13, 2008 at 1:55 am
http://truediscernment.wordpress.com/2008/11/08/a-profile-of-dr-jack-van-impe/
November 27, 2008 at 7:32 am
typo **it’s also there to prepare**
November 29, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Jabbrwokk, I think that one thing that sets the Bible apart from all other writing is that it is simple enough for the simple nomads and town dwellers who were the original audience, and complex enough to challenge the intellect of geniuses in all fields of study.
December 6, 2008 at 5:47 am
Jack VanImpe is led by the Holy Spirit to warn Christians about future events. If you don’t understand, then perhaps you are one of the lost. Rexela is also very knowledgable. She also holds a doctorate.
December 14, 2008 at 9:27 pm
I saw Jack Van Impe many years ago and he is not the same now as then. He may not be the ‘anti-christ’, but he is NOT preaching the real truth any more. He is preaching a gospel of his own making, having us believe that he has knowledge of prophetic events by comparing the scriptures to current events. It doesn’t work that way. I have a friend who almost had a nervous breakdown because of listening to this man and his scary baloney. Remember Y2K? Jack Van Impe was totally wrong about it and used it to get more money out of people. His recent comments about Barack Obama are proof to me that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. God will separate the sheep from the goats. Van Impe is no sheep. j
January 8, 2009 at 3:43 am
Clearly, a nut.
January 19, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Alright, the most important thing that we need to be worried about is our own heart. Do you have a relationship with Jesus and are you ready if he came right now. Your theory about Jack Van Impe being the antichrist makes absolutely no sense. If you have ever watched the program you would see that at the end of every program he leads people to the true Saviour Jesus Christ. I s this something the “Antichrist” would do? No!! Let’s actually look at the scripture and quit theorizing, “every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world” 1 john 4:3. Now I’m not saying that everything Jack Van Impe says is right but we are human and all make mistakes! To name him as a possible “antichrist” is wrong.
January 19, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Amazing how the author of the article above is fulfilling one of the signs of Jesus’s Second Coming – 2nd Peter 3:3-4 “Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, ‘where is the promise of His [Jesus] coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” The fact that this author is a scoffer of Jack Van Impe and his great ministry that has lead thousands to Christ proves that Jack is onto something, we are living in the last days. Also, Jude 1:18 “How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts”.
Isn’t it ironic that the author of this article thinks he’s exposed Jack van Impe’s faults and yet, in the process has personally taken part in fulfilling what Jack van Impe tells us is yet another sign that the redemption of Jesus’s church is drawing nigh?
I love Jack van Impe and his wife and I am glued to his website and show for more signs of the times…I share them with my family and have helped some non-believers come to Christ from learning about prophesy. God has been so patient with our blasphemous, crude country yet the time is drawing very close to when God will draw the line and that is when every knee shall blow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord – and that includes the author of this article! Praise God for irony!
January 20, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Jack Van Impre is not the Antichrist, I believe the Antichrist was just inaugurated as the 44th president! All will be well for a while, then true colors emerge. “One World Order”, microchips to be inserted into people – wake up, the Antichrist now occupies the seat of the Presidency of the United States. God help us all.
July 17, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Shelia President Obama is not the Anti-Christ. It is impossible for him to be the anti-christ for one simple reason. And that is that in the book of Daniel in the Bible we are told that the anti-christ will come out of the Roman Empire the European Union. Now while I believe Obama will play a part in working with the anti-christ I assure you he is not the anti-christ.
January 20, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Shelia……
Don’t worry. God has a plan and no one gets into power without God allowing it. If President Obama is indeed the anti-christ, well, so be it. He still won’t beat God…
Don’t worry. God is in control of everything. Jesus Christ has already defeated everything satan wants to accomplish. I hope Obama is the anti-Christ…..it only means it’s that much closer to meeting Jesus and my loved ones who have gone on before me…..
Read the end of the book…….we win.
January 21, 2009 at 1:19 am
Yes, BHO/AC is now the pretender….oops I mean president…let the media slobber fest continue unabated and may BHO/AC get exactly the same kind of “respect” that GWB got from his detractors…I am wondering though just what will those with BDS will do now that President Bush is out of office. Perhaps those with BDS will be able to get BHO/AC to set up a taxpayer funded recovery program to keep these victims straight jacketed in a closet somewhere, of course BHO/AC could always just give them a job in his administration… after all surely some of them could be trained to clean toilets or something.
January 21, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Michele Obama.
Watch the movie Devil’s Advocate with Keanu Reeves. In the movie, two women befriend Keanu’s wife and they are really demons. One of these women is an african-american. When she becomes the demon in front of his wife…..the demon is a dead ringer for Michele Obama. From the first time I saw Michele she reminded me of that demon…maybe the Holy Spirit was trying to tell me something.
February 4, 2009 at 8:25 am
HENRY KISSINGER HAS RECENTLY CLAIMED THAT BHO IS BEING GROOMED TO BE THE WORLD LEADER FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
February 15, 2009 at 5:28 pm
jack van impe speaks the truth. jesus is the truth. we dont have long left on this world. jesus is coming soon . amen. i was a drug addict and jesus saved me. jack spesks the truth look and you will see
February 25, 2009 at 4:08 am
I feel sorry for you,but it’s a free country so far.Look what they did to christ.Mr.Van Impe can take it.We know he is doing his Job,because the devil uses people like you to try to hurt him.God Bless You.
February 25, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Jack doesn’t speak the truth. He speaks money. When are you people going to realize that? Tracey, the world isn’t going to end. The original Greek has Matt. 24:3 saying end of the age, not world. It was a mistranslation.
February 26, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Oh gosh, with the very real and intense issues all around us, it would suffice to say that there are better ways for people to spend their time. I am a retired and disabled Veteran, and there are a lot of folks around the globe that would love to have the “free” time to sit at a computer all day to justify their sordid, bankrupt and insolent lives on websites. Get on with the day, and please ensure that those with whom you sleep are rid of the bed bugs before your commitment.
March 9, 2009 at 5:31 am
Elliot, it seems that you just sat at the computer to justify your sordid, bankrupt, and insolent life on a website by putting other people down. Look in the mirror, man.
March 9, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Jesse Lameass Norman (and OMG! There’s time to embellish “II”)!DO NOT EVER respond to me or address me in the way you did. Apparently, you have no respect for anything, especially yourself. Too bad, yet another waste of human life. You are a pathetic “man”. Get help. It is most certain you are half baked and retarded, probably inbred. Enjoy the trailer park! Get over it loser!
March 12, 2009 at 5:34 am
Sorta looks like I took the rattler from the baby in the stroller. I find it funny when you online badasses, real life wusses get so ticked off at so little of a thing. I doubt when you get out of your mom’s basement in the cover of darkness that you talk to anyone in this manner, Elliot. The comment about me not respecting anything or myself went right over my head unless we are living in the Bizarro World. You’re just some snotty teenage punk, or a 30something couch pioneer who looks for fights online when they go nowhere, again lucky for you. “DO NOT EVER respond to me or address me in the way you did”. Please, what in the blue hell are you going to do?
March 13, 2009 at 3:23 am
The NEWEST Pretrib Calendar
Hal (serial polygamist) Lindsey and other pretrib-rapture-trafficking and Mayan-Calendar-hugging hucksters deserve the following message: “2012 may be YOUR latest date. It isn’t MAYAN!” Actually, if it weren’t for the 179-year-old, fringe-British-invented, American-merchandised pretribulation rapture bunco scheme, Hal might still be piloting a tugboat on the Mississippi. roly-poly Thomas Ice (Tim LaHaye’s No. 1 strong-arm enforcer) might still be in his tiny folding-chair church which shares its firewall with a Texas saloon, Jack Van Impe might still be a jazz band musician, Tim LaHaye might still be titillating California matrons with his “Christian” sex manual, Grant Jeffrey might still be taking care of figures up in Canada, Chuck Missler might still be in mysterious hush-hush stuff that rocket scientists don’t dare talk about, John Hagee might be making – and eating – world-record pizzas, and Jimmy (“Bye You” Rapture) Swaggart might still be flying on a Ferriday flatbed! To read more details about the eschatological British import that leading British scholarship never adopted – the import that’s created some American multi-millionaires – Google “Pretrib Rapture Diehards” (note LaHaye’s hypocrisy under “1992”), “Hal Lindsey’s Many Divorces,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers)” and “Thomas Ice (Hired Gun),” “LaHaye’s Temperament,” “Wily Jeffrey,” “Chuck Missler – Copyist,” “Open Letter to Todd Strandberg” and “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “X-Raying Margaret,” “Humbug Huebner,” “Thieves’ Marketing,” “Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal,” “The Unoriginal John Darby,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “The Real Manuel Lacunza,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Pretrib Rapture – Hidden Facts,” “Dolcino? Duh!” and “Scholars Weigh My Research.” Most of the above is written by journalist/historian Dave MacPherson who has focused on long-hidden pretrib rapture history for 35+ years. No one else has focused on it for 35 months or even 35 weeks. MacPherson has been a frequent radio talk show guest and he states that all of his royalties have always gone to a nonprofit group and not to any individual. His No. 1 book on all this is “The Rapture Plot” (see Armageddon Books online, etc.). The amazing thing is how long it has taken the mainstream media to finally notice and expose this unbelievably groundless yet extremely lucrative theological hoax!
(Saw the above on the net. Save your fangs for the “rapture” monsters! Sally Ann)
March 31, 2009 at 2:10 am
Every single sentence out of this man’s mouth on his TV program is backed by scripture. He backs up every word out of this mouth with the exact verse from the bible.
It’s done so much that it is almost hard to follow him. His entire TV program is backed by scripture. Why would anyone want to listen to this man?
Because he has been right about everything right down to the day. When he stops being right I will stop listening to him. As long as he is guided by the bible he will never be wrong.
Let me just reiterate !
HE HASN’T BEEN WRONG ABOUT A SINGLE THING ON HIS SHOW
Most recently put out a CD suggesting that modern day Babylon will in fact be the United States.
When he suggested this on his show I fell off my rocker saying, No Way. When I got the CD it was the most accurate research based on scripture I ever heard. I was completely overwhelmed.
He hasn’t been wrong yet. I just hope there will be someone just a good to replace him after December 2012 where gone.
I hope the author of this blog enjoys a lovely seven years of tribulation.
March 31, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Ryan, good reply.
Sally Ann, here’s some words of wisdom for you: The biggest barrier to truth is assuming you know it.
April 1, 2009 at 3:23 am
Actually, Christ will rapture those believers and those who are dead in Him. Rapture theory has been around for several thousand years. Yes, time-lines have been thrown out there since the 1800’s, but the Rapture is grounded in scripture and there were early Christians who believed in a ‘rapture’. I pray those who believe will be raptured before the Tribulation, but whatever happens, it will be in God’s time, and on His terms. At any rate, make sure you are spiritually where you need to be with respect to God at any time. We don’t live this present life forever. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.
April 4, 2009 at 4:19 pm
There will be NO rapture. Ezekial 13:20 states that God is against those that teach their flock how to fly. It always amazes me that people can think there is real doctrine supporting a rapture of any kind given what is really written, especially in the original Greek. All of you believers in the rapture, explain this to me: if the mystery of God is finished at the blowing of the last trump, then what mystery would be left if all of a sudden millions of people are gone before anything happens? Why are we told to put on our armor? So we can just leave? Come on. Use your heads.
April 5, 2009 at 12:10 am
Well, Jesse, I’m not an expert in scripture; I’m not at my adult stage in my walk with Christ yet — I guess you could consider me a teenager, though I’m no doubt old enough to be most everyone’s mama on these posts. lol Anyhow, I’m going based on 1 Thessalonians 4: 14-15. Also, I’m not saying things will happen as the “Left Behind” series proposes, but at this stage, I believe the dead in Christ and believers will both rise with him at some point. If God wishes me to remain to do battle, then I will. If God ordains all of us to remain, then it’s His will, not anyone else’s. I don’t presume to know the mind of God, nor the mysteries of God. I don’t feel like going head to head with my fellow Christians — there’s so much else we’re up against in the ‘world’. I have a hard enough time interacting with those who are the Oprah “new agers”. lol They never seem to get it. Ah, well.
Have a blessed Easter coming up everyone!
April 5, 2009 at 4:25 am
It’s good you have that attitude. Problem with the rapture doctrine is that when people are preparing for an escape hatch that never comes, they are going to be susceptible to the most convincing con man we’ve ever come across. When the time has come and gone and the people are still here, these false teachers will lose their flock just as prophesied in Ezekial 13:20. As for 1st Thes., Paul clarifies what he said in the 2nd Epistle by saying there will be no change until Christ has returned. The dead in Christ are those at the end who have made the right choice. After the end of this age, all will be changed who have not died yet. Remember Jesus divides the righteous from the unrighteous. You also have a blessed Easter next weekend. God bless.
May 5, 2009 at 7:21 pm
how many words phrases verses have you memerized?..he doesnt read a telepromter like “that one”…Will never give or sumbmit to the new wolrd order!!!!WILL DIE FOR GOD and His SON JESUS!!!!
May 28, 2009 at 2:21 am
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June 11, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Hey Tom,
Shut up. Why did you even write that comment? Why do people like you have to pop off and mouth off behind the no identity of a computer. I read this whole page last night and these people are brilliant.
YOU, sir, are an idiot.
July 3, 2009 at 6:14 am
good info
July 5, 2009 at 2:16 pm
That was a nice read.
July 10, 2009 at 1:03 pm
I found Jack on TV back in the early 90’s. I could not believe how wonderful he was. I had never heard of the european community, oh…it was some other name then, but…it became the European Union…EU. I told so many about it…they laughed. Now look. AND…if you go to VanImpe’s site…you will see the new 10 and it’s power…it all makes sense. BTW…everyone that I told, now considers Jack…a true prophet to GOD/Jesus. He spoke the truth. YES, he prays the prayer that so many preachers leave out!!! Like Joel Osteen…yuk!
August 2, 2009 at 1:23 am
I sure liked new world order it was packed full of info.WoW,to think we are so close to going home.Mr.VanImpe thankyou for the thousands of hours you and your wonderful wife have put in to your ministry what a blessing.I love to hear you quote the scriptures with such compassion and leads to conviction of the heart,so that salvation is just a prayer away.Please people if someone is called by the Lord we should never judge them,Joel Osteen is just different than Jack.Jesus uses all of us in his way. Thankyou again for Your ministry.
August 8, 2009 at 1:41 am
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come. It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with his assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch. Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back–whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’ (Mark 13:32-37) JACK SEEMS TO LEAVE THIS OUT OF HIS PREDICTIONS. The Y2K prediction was a fluke so will the 2012 prediction. People needs to read their bibles and stop listening to all of these false teachers.
August 8, 2009 at 1:43 am
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come. It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with his assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch. Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back–whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’ (Mark 13:32-37) JACK SEEMS TO LEAVE THIS OUT OF HIS PREDICTIONS. The Y2K prediction was a fluke so will the 2012 prediction. People needs to read their bibles and stop listening to all of these false teachers..
September 9, 2009 at 3:22 am
Who is the anti-christ but a man that DENIES that jesus is the christ. Look i know jack is a little confused about things but he does not DENY that JESUS is the CHRIST ….so based off of scripture he is not an ANTI-CHRIST….however i did hear him say the other day that he believes the earth is billions of years old and the bible supports it….WERE IS THAT FROM..if you go back and whatch September 7th 2009 show you will hear it yourself
September 9, 2009 at 3:25 am
and just for this articles sake…AMERICA= mystery babylon the great revelation 17,18……ROME IS NOT mystery babylon..
September 21, 2009 at 1:14 am
Has anyone wondered how a man who graduated from Bible College at the age of 21 could be a doctor?
January 9, 2010 at 7:05 am
Who says knowledge attainment has to necessarily be confined to a formal University/College education !
October 2, 2009 at 4:16 am
its sad that people are saying so many nasty things about mr VanImpe a doctor in theology….continues to learn and study until this very day… in the end times many scoffers and evil doers will appear…. it sounds as if many of them are reading and writing in this forum… the only point i will make is this… everything that i have read in the Bible directly correlates with what Jack talks about weekly.. his current events from around the world are interesting.. he talks about things that make sense. please understand that he is a man of peace but dont misunderstand he will tell the truth.. weather we want to hear it or not.. the rapture is in the bible.. it talks about a mystery…. the nation of islam is peaceful exept the extremists… the only issue is they believe works will get you to heaven which Jack has said many times is not the way Jesus is the way … the only way… so my dear friends understand Dr Jack and Rexella are a wonderful gift to us all and should not treated this way…..
October 4, 2009 at 12:41 pm
i have a question i would love if you would answer, you stated on your program that obama is one of the people who would like to head the one world goverment,if so does this mean the one who does will be the anti-christ, thank you love your program don;t miss one
October 29, 2009 at 11:14 am
I used to find Jack and Rexella very interesting about 18 years ago,before he and her developed the 1000 yard stare. He seems to adore the pope and muslims and mormons also.He is overjoyed to remind all viewers that he is a Belgian,where Brussels will be the new world capital under antichrist,big deal. Jack you should retire and enjoy the money you have made.The longer you preach this rubbish, the more comical you and Rex,become. Satan has you where he wants you so repent and serve Christ or taste perdition.
October 29, 2009 at 11:36 am
Hey Jack! Didn`t you state that the rapture was to take place on or about May 12,2009? Ooops! It didn`t come to pass and you said nothing about it nor did you apologise to your audience.People had better read about the Jewish banking houses in New York and how they paid “Shifty Scofield”to write about the “rapture” in 1903 to undermine Christian faith.Scofield was a fraud and a liar/con-man.The Scofield bible is a abomination and should be burned.
September 21, 2014 at 1:31 pm
No he did not say that, he said no man knows but what he has studied maybe the year 2016 he didn’t say he knew anything of exact dates in time.
November 6, 2009 at 2:17 am
I have good news and bad. Yes some Catholics will get to heaven. No some Baptist will not. Remember Jesus said depart from me ye workers of iniquity for I never knew you
November 6, 2009 at 2:22 am
Hey nobuddy:
I got a question for you. Even if it was a lie, which I find hard to believe, but even so. Look around, the world events are lineing up just as the bible said they would. Whether or not the rapture happens will have no say so where you go. So the question is whether or not you know what the blood of Jesus is for?????
November 6, 2009 at 2:27 am
To all the people who are blasmpheming Jack V. You better hope that you are right, if not and the things that Jack has been saying have come from the Holy Spirit, than you commited the only unforgivable sin Jesus warned us about. There is no forgivness against the Holy Spirit talk about men all you want. But be careful of that line folks because there is no coming back.
November 6, 2009 at 2:31 am
“One final warning”.
The book of Revelation tells you in chapter 22 not to add to the prophesy or God will add the plages to you written there in. He also said if you take away from the prophesy of this book he will take your name out of the book of life.
November 25, 2009 at 12:16 am
One of the guy’s I go to church with went to Jack Van Impe’s home last week and “tried” to talk to him about some questions regarding the red sea findings and Jack Refused to open up his front door to speak to him and blamed many death threats on his life as to why, but Van Impe has no security cameras, no gate at his driveway and can be easily found on the internet at ZABASEARCH dot com and many other sites, if Mr. Van Impe really had death threats he would have some kind of security but he don’t, and he and his wife drive Mercedes both with personalized license plates easily seen at his place of “business” ……….so Van Impe is full of crap!
Van Impe had his Lawyer call my friend and threaten him with jail time for harassment for sending a letter my friend sent the next day after being turned away by van impe, my friend sent a letter asking Mr. van impe for a job or financial help as he was laid off over a year ago and wanted to reach out to someone in his local area like Van Impe because as a Christian with such a large ministry Mr van Impe could easily afford to hire or help out many people in financial need.
The Van Impe’s are “MERCHANTS” fleecing the people in the house of The Lord and us Christians know what JESUS did to the “Merchants” and the money changers tables in the house of The Lord!
Van Impe is a fraud plain and simple.
December 6, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Hey I’m not the anti christ I’m just a sociopath. lol
Check out our new website in Canada (damn socialists)
http://www.jackvanimoe.ca
January 8, 2010 at 8:00 am
Hello sir !!!…..keep up the good work !!!…..Yes I am BACK, and my back happens to hurt right now !!!…..I watch u RELIGIOUSLY (haha) and I Love being entertained by yer truths !!!….See u soon !!!…..Hope u had a Merry Memas !!!….Let the fun begin !!!!…Serious fun that is !!!….Blessings..
December 6, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Make that http://www.jackvanimpe.ca
Sorry about the typo
December 26, 2009 at 11:40 am
i dont think people should waste time worring about what other people are going to say.because the only thing that matters is learning and teaching people about the love of JESUS and perparing to go with him on his return. I just pray we all be ready whenever that day come.
January 22, 2010 at 6:22 am
I m really impressed with your work. I m glad to have read this article. It was a great way of putting forward your ideas on this subject I m relieved to find such good work after going through such pains in searching for the appropriate matter for my project. Congratulations.
January 27, 2010 at 12:20 pm
I’m sorry to say Rexella and I will be parting our ways. After many years of marriage I just couldn’t keep up with her anymore and I have to set her free. She’s such a sweet bird. It’s my fault I’ve been acting like Tiger lately and I will surely go to hell. In the meantime because of my substance abuse problem I will be checking into the Betty Ford Clinic. Please visit my website http://www.jackvanimpe.ca for updates. Please pass this notice on to everyone. Be sure to watch our program in February for our farewells.
February 1, 2010 at 10:55 pm
People out there who are not filled with the Holy Spirit,God loves you to.He loves all his people no matter what you have said or done.He sent His only Son Jesus to die on the cross for your sins. He Loves you.He does not want to cause you harm.Oh people with hardened hearts,it is not to late to turn to Christ.Just ask him for forgiveness of your sins and to please come into your heart.It is that simple.Beware,you do not,I mean do not, want to be here when the Tribulation is comes.There will be no escape from it. God is warning the world right now and He is using people like Dr. Van Impe and Rexella.Billy Graham,and so many more to deliver the message.Please don’t be fooled by people like Mr. Cloud and other non believers.He loves him too.Mr. Cloud reminds me of Paul in the Bible.Get out your Bibles and not only read them but ask God to reveal the meaning for you.Start with the New Testament.You can’t be luke warm.You must believe in Jesus christ.The only way to Heaven.I know you want to go to Heaven because what idiot would want to go to Hell and burn eternally.The Rapture is very close now.
February 24, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Hey sweetie, great blog post. Do you have an rss feed that I can put on my homepage?
March 16, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Have you thought about including some social bookmark links on your site? At least include one for Reddit so we could ping them up!
March 18, 2010 at 11:41 am
haaaaa brother in christ,and friend these human attacts on you are nothing new are they.well let them still continue.christ loves so much to forgive us that when we forgive,he LOOKS at the FATHER and laughs with a joy and even our father has to smile and say Jack well done my faithful son turely you are mine.
July 24, 2010 at 11:15 am
As a matter of fact michael, your name has really followed you.
March 18, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Our FATHER in Heaven Loved all sooooooooo much that he gave his only Son that we all could have everlasting life.There is a deadline on his coming to.This generation will not pass before the coming of the LORD. What 51.5yrs Didnt start in 48 it started in june of 67. They had to control the capitol the jewish people,put it at 2018. then subtract the big 7 years.2011 in the start of summer when the trees start to bloom.
March 18, 2010 at 12:23 pm
FIG OLIVE ALL trees that are at a blooming stage. the clock is tic toc let those who have an ear hear what the HOLY SPIRIT has to say LISTEN all you I come like a THIEF in the night.Yes no one knows the time,But there is a deadline.see you and your beautiful wife soon in our FATHERS house, Be Blessed Always MY BROTHER and mentor.
March 18, 2010 at 12:26 pm
ps forgive jesse Father
March 18, 2010 at 12:48 pm
HE would leave 99 so that he could find just one meaning HES coming in that last moment so that none will be left behind.and that could be at any moment.Rapture latin and greek meaning to be taken bye force,or snatched.thats where the word is from RAPTURE wow I will be taken or snatched. cool holy FATHER let the LORD of HEAVEN and earth start taken his own home
March 24, 2010 at 7:29 pm
forgive them them for they know not what they are doing
March 24, 2010 at 7:30 pm
for give them for they know not whatthey say
March 24, 2010 at 7:30 pm
for give them for they know not what they say
April 9, 2010 at 12:52 am
Stop this foolishness and support Israel!!!! http://www.ifcj.org/site/PageNavigator/eng/USENG_homenew?cvridirect=true
April 26, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Be very careful who you call “evil”. That is the only sin that has no pardon. (mat 12:22) A house divided cannot stand. The anti-christ will be very visible to those of us in the Word. He will not be able to promote Jesus Christ as Jack does and also lead people astray.
I think you should take time to listen to him. Although I don’t subscribe to his every belief, he is a very knowledgeable man and I believe loves God very much.
May 1, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Obama’s number is 743, NOT 666.
I remember Van Impe in the late 60’s. Radio Station WKNR (Detroit) used a snippet of one of his rants with their station ID. “There’ll be Sex in the Streets by 1975 because of Rock & Roll music!” “W – K – N – R !!!”
May 8, 2010 at 2:02 am
Seymour, are you sure it was WKNR? I am almost positive that was WABX. That is what I was looking for when I came upon this sight. That and the imediate follow-up that I think was Johnny Winter screaming “ROCK “N” ROLL” If ANYBODY knows where I can get a copy of that please let me know. I’ve been trying for years (off and on) to find out who did the rock’n’roll yell and to get a copy pf Rev. Jack’s “Sex in the streets of every American city”
May 13, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Yo creo y estoy seguro que la Iglesia ha de pasar por la gran tribulación, los apóstoles murieron casi todos en gran tribulación, y la iglesia del final, materializada, llena de malos hábitos y costumbre, apegada tanto a los bienes materiales,a la política y falsedad. No puede ser la excepción.Además, Cristo dijo, Mat- 24: 29. Inmediatamente después de la tribulación de aquellos días… Era cuando se iba a realizar su segunda venida y no antes. Por otra parte, Pablo dijo, 2.da. Tes- 2: 1 al 3, que No vendría el Señor y no nos uniríamos con él, hasta tanto no viniera la apostasía y se manifestara el hombre de pecado (anticristo). Así que el Dr. Impe, estoy seguro que está bien equivocado con esa ensaeñanza profética de un rapto pretribulacional. y también con la profecía del anticristo. Quiero adelantarle al hno. Van Impe, que la unión europea actual, va a fraccionarse y desaparecer como está acutalmente; para dar entrada a los países que van a conformar las naciones del verdadero anticristo. josias_ba_9844ahotmail.com…Dios les bendiga.
May 13, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Yo creo y estoy seguro que la Iglesia ha de pasar por la gran tribulación, los apóstoles murieron casi todos en gran tribulación, y la iglesia del final, materializada, llena de malos hábitos y costumbre, apegada tanto a los bienes materiales,a la política y falsedad. No puede ser la excepción.Además, Cristo dijo, Mat- 24: 29. Inmediatamente después de la tribulación de aquellos días… Era cuando se iba a realizar su segunda venida y no antes. Por otra parte, Pablo dijo, 2.da. Tes- 2: 1 al 3, que No vendría el Señor y no nos uniríamos con él, hasta tanto no viniera la apostasía y se manifestara el hombre de pecado (anticristo). Así que el Dr. Impe, estoy seguro que está bien equivocado con esa ensaeñanza profética de un rapto pretribulacional. y también con la profecía del anticristo. Quiero adelantarle al hno. Van Impe, que la unión europea actual, va a fraccionarse y desaparecer como está acutalmente; para dar entrada a los países que van a conformar las naciones del verdadero anticristo,con países tales como:Rusia,Alemania,Gracia,Turquía, Irán,Irak,Sudán,Etiopía, Libia,y otros países árabe del poder económico y del dios ejeno. josias_ba_9844@hotmail.com…Dios les bendiga.
June 12, 2010 at 4:43 pm
I appreciate both the ministries of Dr. Jack Van Impe and Pastor Benny Hinn. I am a Baptist and many Baptists attribute many false things/doctrines about him because he believes in the gifts of the Spirit. The last I studied the Holy Spirit is the third Person of the Godhead.
My only fault laid against many televangelists is they live in multi- million dollar homes, when I feel and I think, rightly believe that those dollars should go to poor missionaries and the poor Christians, widows and the hungry of the world. Christian pastors should live well, but million dollar homes seems to be a serious sin against their souls.
The Roman Catholic Church is the richest organization on earth. If the pope were so Godly it seems that he should spend some of the multiple billions of dollars on his clientelle across Africa, namely Roman Catholic Christians. I have inlaws who give to the Bishops Fund and that money goes either directly to Rome or to pay off their litigations as to their priests homosexuality with altar boys.
If the church is not the ship of salvation through faith in Jesus, where shall the lost turn to for spiritual guidance. Greed used to be a sin.
Rev. Dr. Berrian, Th.D. & Ph.D.
http://www.spreadthewordministries.org/ Berrian Bible Institute
June 21, 2010 at 6:12 am
Jack & Rexella are false prophets making a profit off of the Lords word. They are also obvious right wing republicans.
I never once heard them say anything bad about George W. Bush during his 8 year reign of war, corruption and lies yet they attack Obama and come just short of calling him the Anti-Christ.
I roll my eyes at how these hucksters always condemn the actions of other countries yet remain silent over the atrocities committed by our on government on other countries.
How come these holy rollers fiercely oppose abortion, gays, gay marriage yet remain silent about usury which is condemned in the bible?
In my honest opinion capitalism is the true beast system and America is the new Babylon. Capitalism promotes greed. Money, money, money! How many indigenous people have been killed at the hands of our military or CIA at the behest of corporations so they could steal the natural resources of these peoples land/country?
Van Impe, Hagee, etc, etc are all false prophets warned about in the bible.
July 24, 2010 at 11:25 am
mr insidious prophet belives everyone to be false and him to be true. poor you go and sleep and after you have woken up your dark dim eyes will see the light.
I pray that God gives you grace for your understanding has been darkened.
August 29, 2010 at 6:39 am
You’re an idiot and the worst type of American walking. Our enemies love to read/hear statements like the one you posted. Trashing our country on line, trashing our gov/t. Atrocities committed on other countries by our own gov’t. What atrocities. It’s okay if other countries suck the life blood out of us because of our generosity, it’s okay if our soldiers get mutilated, it’s okay if our we get attacked and innocent civilians get murdered, yeah. we’re a real bad country arn’t we? People like you piss me off. Gp somewhere else if you don’t believe we are the BEST, most NOBLE country in the world. NO OTHER COUNTRY DOES AS MUCH TO HELP OTHER NATIONS THAN WE DO. If my brother could tell you, he would, But he was butchered trying.
June 25, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Dr. Van Impe is a man of God, though perhaps flawed because of careless statements at times, though not unBiblical ideas.
We know that Jesus is due to greet us in the clouds.
Mr. Harold Camping is an apostate by reason first because of his Calvinism, plus his setting dates for the Rapture [Matthew 24:36].
The Bible suggests that we can know the times and season of HIS coming.
Camping also teaches the church age is over when I Corinthians 11:26 indicates that we are to minister Holy Communion until He comes. He has not come yet in the Rapture so the churches are His people and the pastors hopefully preach faith in Jesus as the only way to Heaven [John 14:1-6].
Rev. Dr. I. Ray Berrian, Th.D. & Ph.D.
http://www.spreadthewordministries.org –Berrian Bible Institute
July 25, 2010 at 12:24 am
the signs are all in your noses yet no one can smell the stench of abomination throughout the whole world. Petre Roman is the man of sin, The Christian Wolff is who scatters the Lords sheep, The Beast comes in many forms would you recolonize him if you saw him?
I must say Obama is Not the Anti-Christ, however the anti-christian things he has done does make his an Anti-Christ.
race God does not use as a gauge to let into heaven, So do not be a fool and let your racialism keep you out of heaven! He who worships a black demon will go to hell likewise he who worships a white demon will also go to hell! HELLO
Anyone who raptures their pants in the end days should learn to sew, so they are not naked when the Lord comes! for the wrong works will be counted worse than no works, and faith without works is dead already! for in covering my nakedness my pants did more for the word of God than most people who follow the rapture of their pants doctrine! just like the eat the wafer until the rupture doctrine, The Lord commanded eat without measure break of the loaf drink only the new wine (without yeast) and take no engraven image in worship unto Him keep these thing for all generation wherever you go
July 27, 2010 at 5:00 pm
jack,your the most prolific,informative,detailed phrophet of present modern time! robert/sammy ungar peru indiana
July 27, 2010 at 5:13 pm
NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM YOUR WIFE REXELLA,JACK FOR ME TO HAVE THE FINANCIAL ABILITY YOUR 1/2hr ONCE A WEEK PROGRAM,CHRIST WILLING TO BE AS THE WEATHER CHANNEL 24-7,”SERIOUSLY” ROBERT/SAMMY UNGAR
July 27, 2010 at 5:18 pm
WHAT IT MUST BE LIKE TO RESIDE AT YOUR ADDRESS,HONESTLY.
July 27, 2010 at 5:36 pm
ALL OF YOU SILLY PEOPLE GIVING “A N Y ATTENTION” TO LITTLE JESSE,I MYSELF PRAY FOR YOU -NOT HIM-!DONT YOU KNOW BETTER THAN TO INTERTAIN HIS IGNORANCE(thats a broad statement)YOUR NOT SUPPOSE TO BE THE SLIGHTEST BIT INTERESTED IN SUCH FOOLISHNESS,SATAN HAS ATTEMPTED TO DISRUPT THE WEBSITE OF THE MOST PROLIFIC/INFORMATIVE/DETAILED PHROPHET OF PRESENT TIME. little o’l jesse is a lost soul,IT IS WHAT IT IS AS HE IS LET IT BE WHAT IT IS. R O B E R T U N G A R
July 27, 2010 at 5:56 pm
AND “””NO””” I DIDNT READ HIS IMATURE,UNEDUCATED FILTH,GOT ONLY A FEW WORDS OF IT AND STARTED TYPING TO THOSE OF YOU THAT CONTINUED TO INDULGE IN HIS SPEWING OF HIS SCALED EYED MOUTH.LET OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST DEAL WITH THE JESSESES OF THE WORLD,HE’S DOING THIS AS JESSE LOGS ON TO IMPE’S WEBSITE,GODS GETTING HIS ATTENTION/TIME AND HE DONT EVEN KNOW IT!!! MY BROTHERS-SISTERS IN CHRIST SPEAK WITH ME AND HAVE WORTHWHILE CONVERSATION ECT., ROBERT UNGAR
August 22, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Jack van imp is as much an anti Christ an Obama is a Christian American.
August 29, 2010 at 6:26 am
Can’t comment on Jack, but Obama ain’t no christian and I highly doubt he’s even American. Monkey man.
August 23, 2010 at 8:23 pm
anybody out there?
August 23, 2010 at 11:33 pm
ya…here I am…..I will die for u again ~!!!…..
August 28, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Just checked in to say hi. Can’t write after tomorrow. All is well. Kids are healthy and keeping me very busy…still crazy in love with my Nick.
Uncle Jake..love you, think of you often, pray for you
Zach..hope you’re doing well.
Americanwoman…my older sister. Think of you often, too.
Love you all.
August 30, 2010 at 7:10 pm
lovesamerica:
Welcome home to you, Nick and the kids!!!!!
I’m glad all is well…Had some health problems but that’s clearing up.
Haven’t been on here in a while.
Missed you a lot!
Thanks for the prayers.
Love,
Uncle Jake
September 1, 2010 at 5:57 pm
It amazes me that someone can critisize Jack who knows more scripture in one thumb than his critics will ever know. I am reminded of the children who mocked Elisha. Be very careful what you say against a man of God who has given his entire life to warn the lost and the redeemed that Christ will return soon. If you have trouble believinf that, you may need to check up on your own salvation. Romans 10:13
September 30, 2010 at 6:29 am
IF YOU ARE TRYING TO BE STUPID REGARDING JACK VAN IMPE YOU ARE DOING A REAL GOOD JOB.. IF YOU MAKE IT TO HEAVEN I’M SURE YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS GOING TO WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND HAVE YOU DO SOME EXPLAINING AS TO WHAT YOU’VE SAID ABOUT JACK VAN IMPE..SEEMS LIKE TO ME IF YOU ARE POSSIBLY IN THE MINISTRY YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN GO AFTER OTHERS.. I DON’T REMEMBER THAT BEING PART OF THE GREAT COMMISSION..
November 3, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Wow. You are so off on your “facts”, not that I am surprised. J.V.I. does not say that islam is a peaceful religion, nor does he claim that islam is equal to Christianity. Quite the opposite.
Also, you say that J.V.I. refuses to predict the date of the end of the world. This world will NOT end. There is an end to this age, but the world will never end. Maybe you should listen to what he says and comment on that. And you would probably say that others should have an open mind… open yours and maybe you will see a bit of truth, maybe…
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December 9, 2010 at 5:02 pm
All I know, is that the Bible speaks of false phophets; therefore you should read your Bible and Pray, not follow anyone; except Jesus Christ our Saviour.He’s the only one you should be listening to .As far as the Anti-Christ; he is going to look good to everyone; so beware of that. The devil was the most beautiful Angel in Heaven, according to the Bible; so dont go following by looks or Acts; like I said read the Bible and Pray for guidance.
Yes JVI has been doing that for awhile; which Ive got to give him credit; but, at the same time, keep an open mind about False Phophets and how they are going to appear to everyone.
As far as him knowing the end of time…….The Bible says not even the Angels in Heaven, know the time; so how can a Earthly man know?
January 17, 2011 at 2:31 am
I’ve been a Christian my entire life, but I think Jack, and any other end time prophet is a nut case. Thinking about end times makes you crazy, our human minds can’t understand it.
I don’t know how many more wrong end time predictions these guys need to make for people to stop listening to them. They feed on the minds of the ignorant. Their doom and gloom predictions of Y2K, and none of that coming true, should have been the end of all this, but people still tune in for some reason.
Personally I wish Christians would read the Bible on their own, live their lives to the fullest, and be an example to non Christians, instead of worrying about if and when God is going to take us away.
I think the Devil wins when Christians think of the Second Coming all the time. Why live your life the best you can if you think God’s coming back in a few years? I’ve thought for years that the Devil uses the Rapture against us and keeps us from living the best lives we can for God. As Christians we should be getting the best education possible, setting huge goals, and trying to be in positions of influence. Instead for generations we’ve thought we were going to be Raptured, leaving non-Christians to take over the world.
I’ve taken business and marketing in college, one thing that they told us is that negativity gets double and triple the ratings in media than things that are positive. End times prophecy is based on negativity, because more people listen to that, that’s how they make their money and become famous. Their capitalists too!
If things are as bad as people think, wouldn’t it be better if we prayed about it instead of hoping God would take us away? More people would become Christians that way if we prayed. If God took us all away now, who’s left to witness to them?
FYI, some people think the Rapture already happened, in 70 AD.
September 21, 2014 at 1:29 pm
As a Christian you profess to be, using words like Nut Case for this Man of God is totally against God and his teachings. JVI is warning you and giving you a chance to hear what is approaching us, the last days and to give you scripture to back all he is telling you. Be aware of what is going on we can’t hide our heads in the sand. WE will have a rapture and all is telling you this in his teachings and dvds he offers to purchase. No the rapture did not happen, search and you will find, seek and the door will open. God Bless You.
May 18, 2011 at 5:57 am
For those who think that Catholics are not true Christians, I beg to differ. There are Bible studies in every RC Church, adherence to Biblical teachings, a TRUE respect for life from the moment of conception until its natural end, TRUE respect for marriage, a covenant with God and indissoluble by man. Every Catholic I know places Christ FIRST in their life. So many misconceptions and outright lies about the RC Church. At this critical and pivotal time in the history of the world, Christians need to join hands, hearts and minds and instead of fighting with one another and hating one another, we need to find the love of Christ in our hearts, and all of us reach out together to those who do not believe. For a wonderful book, get “The Islamic Anti-Christ” by Joel Richardson. A book that will open your eyes. Written by a minister.
June 10, 2011 at 12:59 am
I’m sorry to hear about Dr. jack’s passing. I commend him for his ministry over the years but I believe he was wrong on many things pertaining to eschatology:
The pre-tribulation rapture view, which divides the Second Coming of our blessed Lord into to phases (Rapture and Revelation or return) is based on very skewed interpretation of scripture and has serious exegetical problems. According the dispensational view (Pre-Trib Rapture) , the revelation or return of Christ would take place 7-years after the Rapture. Since the Rapture must take place first, it is possible to know the time of Christ’s return (Revelation) by just calculatng 7-years from the time of the Rapture. The serious problem with this interpretation is that Christ himself taught concerning the time of His return: “But of that day or hour no one knows, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only” (Matthew 24:36).
This is just one serious exegetical problem arising from this division of the Second Coming of Christ into two phases–Rapture and Revelation (actually two second comings of Christ separated by 7-years tribulation.).
There are other serious exegetical problems with Dr. jack’s and Rexella’s eschatology:
2 Thessalonians 1:5-10 teaches clearly that the eternal destruction of the unsaved–”those who do not know God” and “those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ” (v. 8)–takes place “when He [Christ] comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints,” in other words, simultaneously with Christ’s return or revelation (see verses 7-10), not 1000 years after His return. Matthew 25:31-46 affirms this same truth–that the judgment that occurs at the Second Coming of Christ in glory issues in everlasting fire (v. 41) and everlasting punishment (v. 46) for the “goats” (the unsaved) and eternal life for the “sheep” (the saved) .Why do pretribulationists still insist then that the judgment of the unsaved must take place 1000 years after Christ’s return (at the Great White Throne judgment ) at the end of the 1000-year-millenium, to be exact, especially when the straightforward description of what happens when Christ returns in 2 Thessalonians 1:5-10 and Matthew 25:31-46 simply doesn’t leave room for a 1000-year earthly reign . No, my friend, the plain teaching of scripture is that there is that Jesus Christ Second Coming is one event, not two phases (Rapture and Revelation), as the scriptures above show, in which will take place the final resurrection and final judgment of both the righteous and unbelievers. Pretribulationalists identify the word “Coming” ( Greek, “Parousia”) with Christ’s coming to rapture His church (see 2 Thessalonians 2:1) but verse 8 in the same context of 2 Thessalonians uses the same word for “coming” (“Parousia”) to describe the destruction of “that Wicked” (AntiChrist) “whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his “coming” (same Greek word “parousia”). I could give more examples to show there are no two phases (Rapture and Revelation) of Christ’s second coming. Christ’s second coming is one event. There is one general resurrection and one final judgment. Daniel 12:2; John 5: 28-29; Acts 24:15; Revelation 20: 13-15 speak of the resurrection of believers and unbelievers as a single event, and do not contain the slightest indication that the resurrection of the righteous and that of the wicked will be separated by 1000 years. But that is not all that can be said to show the two are contemporaneous. In John 5:21-29 Jesus combines the thought of the resurrection, including the resurrection of the righteous, with the thought of the judgment, including the judgment of the wicked. I could give more examples, but sufficient to indicate that there is one general resurrection of both the righteous and wicked at a time when both will be judged. Applying this truth to 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, we see that the rapture of saints living at the time of Christ’s return (read 1 Thessalonians 3 in context) clearly takes place after the resurrection of “the dead in Christ”. Dispensationalists use this passage to support their contention that because this passage mentions only the resurrection of the “dead in Christ” there must be two resurrections which don’t occur at the same time. Yet, that is just an inference obtained by reading more into the passage than what it plainly states. The point of contrast here is not between the resurrection of believers and unbelievers, but between the resurrection of “the dead in Christ” (deceased believers) and the Rapture of believers who are still living at Christ’s return. There is no indication that there are two separate resurrections taught in this passage , especially when we compare scripture with scripture above (I.e. Dan. 12:2; John 5:28-29; Acts 24:15, Revelation 20:13-15, especially 2 Thessalonians 1:5-10 and Matthew 25:31-46. In Acts 24:15, Paul, in his defence before Felix, says, “I worship the God of my fathers…having a hope in God which these themselves( the jews who are accusing him) accept, that there will be a resurrection of both the just and the unjust” (Acts 24:14-15). In the Greek, as well as in the English translation, the word “resurrection” is in the singular (“Anastasia“). Can two resurrections a thousand years apart properly be called “a resurrection”? I think not! The attempt to restrict the resurrection in revelation 20:11-15 is totally unconvincing. This passage clearly describes a general resurrection of all the dead: “the dead, great and small”; “the dead were judged”; “the sea gave up the dead in it”; “Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had done”.
Premillennialists quote Revelation 20:4-6 to support their contention that there will be two separate resurrections, one for believers and and another for unbelievers, separated by 1000 years. But this belief is based on a literal interpretation of this passage (Rev. 20: 4-6 ) from a highly symbolical book, over against the clear teaching in other passages (I.e. John 5:28-29; Acts 24:15; Daniel 12:2; Matthew 25:31-46; etc.) that the resurrection of believers and unbelievers will be simultaneous. The recognized rule of exegesis is to interpret an obscure passage of scripture in the light the clear teaching of other passages on the subject, not vice versa. Some exegetes have interpreted “the first resurrection” as a spiritual resurrection, for which I believe there is much support. Verse 4 says: Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom judgment was committed.” The first question we must ask is, Where are these thrones? “The word “throne” in the book of Revelation is used 47 times, and that all but 3 of these thrones (2:13; 13:2; 16:10) appear to be in heaven. When we add to this the plain fact that John sees “the souls of those who had been beheaded” (obviously the intermediate state of disembodied spirits of martyrs who have died for their faith),” we are confirmed in our conclusion that the locale of John’s vision has now shifted to heaven. We may say then whereas the 1000-year-period described in these six verses is the same throughout, verses 1-3 describes what happens on earth during this time, and verses 4-6 depict what happens in heaven.
It is very interesting that I have not heard a premillennialist to date who will deny that Revelation 6:9 is a vision of the heavenly bliss of those who have suffered martyrdom for Christ; yet, when they encounter virtually the same terminology (or language) in Revelation 20:4, they can only see a post-Parousia (=Second Coming of Christ) millennial kingdom on the earth of embodied believers. A careful reading of these two passages, however, will reveal that they are describing the same experience.
Revelation 6:9
“[And] I saw (kai eidon)
“the souls of them that were slain”
(tas psuchas ton esphagmenon)
“for the word of God”
(dia ton logon tou theou)
“and for the testimony which they held”
(dia ten marturian hen eichon)
Revelation 20:4
“And I saw (kai eidon)
“the souls of them that were beheaded”
(tas psuchas ton pepelekismenon)
“for the word of God”
(dia ton logon tou theou)
“for the witness of Jesus”
(dia ten marturian ‘lesou)
In the light of the above comparison, which clearly reveals that they are both describing the same experience, is it not more biblical and intellectually honest, therefore, to conclude that the word “souls” in its immediate context: “and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus” and “and they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years” (v. 4) definitely does not refer to people living on earth , but rather to slain martyrs, specifically the intermediate state (see 2 Cor. 5:8) or aspect of the martyrs which still exists after their bodies have been cruelly put to death?
Does it not follow contextually and exegetically that the same scene in which the “souls” (from Greek, psychas or spirit) of these deceased martyrs “lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years” (vv. 4 and 6); therefore, is not earth, but heaven–and it is there that we are told in verse 6 that “the second death hath no power, but they (the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus) shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years?
(Moreover, is this (the truths in [a] and [b] not confirmed by the latter statement: “But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished” (v.5), which connects and agrees with the preceding statement, “and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus?” (v.4).
It is perfectly clear that scripture teaches the rapture takes place in the context of Christ’s coming (“parousia”) or return, which is one event, not two, and therefore it is biblical and correct to state that if one truly believes what Christ taught concerning His return: “But of that day or hour no one knows, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only” (Matthew 24:36), then, no one can know the day or hour when the rapture of the church will take place.
June 10, 2011 at 1:16 am
I’m sorry to hear about Dr. Jack’s passing. His was a popular ministry, though I believe he was wrong on many things. In connection with the false Camping prediction, he said it was nonsense for Christians to quote Matthew 24:36 which basically tells us no man can know the day or the hour of Christ’s return. No, Dr. Jack, it is certainly not nonsense:
The pre-tribulation rapture view, which divides the Second Coming of our blessed Lord into to phases (Rapture and Revelation or return) is based on very skewed interpretation of scripture and has serious exegetical problems. According the dispensational view (Pre-Trib Rapture) , the revelation or return of Christ would take place 7-years after the Rapture. Since the Rapture must take place first, it is possible to know the time of Christ’s return (Revelation) by just calculatng 7-years from the time of the Rapture. The serious problem with this interpretation is that Christ himself taught concerning the time of His return: “But of that day or hour no one knows, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only” (Matthew 24:36).
This is just one serious exegetical problem arising from this division of the Second Coming of Christ into two phases–Rapture and Revelation (actually two second comings of Christ separated by 7-years tribulation.).
There are other serious exegetical problems with Dr. jack’s and Rexella’s eschatology:
2 Thessalonians 1:5-10 teaches clearly that the eternal destruction of the unsaved–”those who do not know God” and “those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ” (v. 8)–takes place “when He [Christ] comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints,” in other words, simultaneously with Christ’s return or revelation (see verses 7-10), not 1000 years after His return. Matthew 25:31-46 affirms this same truth–that the judgment that occurs at the Second Coming of Christ in glory issues in everlasting fire (v. 41) and everlasting punishment (v. 46) for the “goats” (the unsaved) and eternal life for the “sheep” (the saved) .Why do pretribulationists still insist then that the judgment of the unsaved must take place 1000 years after Christ’s return (at the Great White Throne judgment ) at the end of the 1000-year-millenium, to be exact, especially when the straightforward description of what happens when Christ returns in 2 Thessalonians 1:5-10 and Matthew 25:31-46 simply doesn’t leave room for a 1000-year earthly reign . No, my friend, the plain teaching of scripture is that there is that Jesus Christ Second Coming is one event, not two phases (Rapture and Revelation), as the scriptures above show, in which will take place the final resurrection and final judgment of both the righteous and unbelievers. Pretribulationalists identify the word “Coming” ( Greek, “Parousia”) with Christ’s coming to rapture His church (see 2 Thessalonians 2:1) but verse 8 in the same context of 2 Thessalonians uses the same word for “coming” (“Parousia”) to describe the destruction of “that Wicked” (AntiChrist) “whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his “coming” (same Greek word “parousia”). I could give more examples to show there are no two phases (Rapture and Revelation) of Christ’s second coming. Christ’s second coming is one event. There is one general resurrection and one final judgment. Daniel 12:2; John 5: 28-29; Acts 24:15; Revelation 20: 13-15 speak of the resurrection of believers and unbelievers as a single event, and do not contain the slightest indication that the resurrection of the righteous and that of the wicked will be separated by 1000 years. But that is not all that can be said to show the two are contemporaneous. In John 5:21-29 Jesus combines the thought of the resurrection, including the resurrection of the righteous, with the thought of the judgment, including the judgment of the wicked. I could give more examples, but sufficient to indicate that there is one general resurrection of both the righteous and wicked at a time when both will be judged. Applying this truth to 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, we see that the rapture of saints living at the time of Christ’s return (read 1 Thessalonians 3 in context) clearly takes place after the resurrection of “the dead in Christ”. Dispensationalists use this passage to support their contention that because this passage mentions only the resurrection of the “dead in Christ” there must be two resurrections which don’t occur at the same time. Yet, that is just an inference obtained by reading more into the passage than what it plainly states. The point of contrast here is not between the resurrection of believers and unbelievers, but between the resurrection of “the dead in Christ” (deceased believers) and the Rapture of believers who are still living at Christ’s return. There is no indication that there are two separate resurrections taught in this passage , especially when we compare scripture with scripture above (I.e. Dan. 12:2; John 5:28-29; Acts 24:15, Revelation 20:13-15, especially 2 Thessalonians 1:5-10 and Matthew 25:31-46. In Acts 24:15, Paul, in his defence before Felix, says, “I worship the God of my fathers…having a hope in God which these themselves( the jews who are accusing him) accept, that there will be a resurrection of both the just and the unjust” (Acts 24:14-15). In the Greek, as well as in the English translation, the word “resurrection” is in the singular (“Anastasia“). Can two resurrections a thousand years apart properly be called “a resurrection”? I think not! The attempt to restrict the resurrection in revelation 20:11-15 is totally unconvincing. This passage clearly describes a general resurrection of all the dead: “the dead, great and small”; “the dead were judged”; “the sea gave up the dead in it”; “Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had done”.
Premillennialists quote Revelation 20:4-6 to support their contention that there will be two separate resurrections, one for believers and and another for unbelievers, separated by 1000 years. But this belief is based on a literal interpretation of this passage (Rev. 20: 4-6 ) from a highly symbolical book, over against the clear teaching in other passages (I.e. John 5:28-29; Acts 24:15; Daniel 12:2; Matthew 25:31-46; etc.) that the resurrection of believers and unbelievers will be simultaneous. The recognized rule of exegesis is to interpret an obscure passage of scripture in the light the clear teaching of other passages on the subject, not vice versa. Some exegetes have interpreted “the first resurrection” as a spiritual resurrection, for which I believe there is much support. Verse 4 says: Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom judgment was committed.” The first question we must ask is, Where are these thrones? “The word “throne” in the book of Revelation is used 47 times, and that all but 3 of these thrones (2:13; 13:2; 16:10) appear to be in heaven. When we add to this the plain fact that John sees “the souls of those who had been beheaded” (obviously the intermediate state of disembodied spirits of martyrs who have died for their faith),” we are confirmed in our conclusion that the locale of John’s vision has now shifted to heaven. We may say then whereas the 1000-year-period described in these six verses is the same throughout, verses 1-3 describes what happens on earth during this time, and verses 4-6 depict what happens in heaven.
It is very interesting that I have not heard a premillennialist to date who will deny that Revelation 6:9 is a vision of the heavenly bliss of those who have suffered martyrdom for Christ; yet, when they encounter virtually the same terminology (or language) in Revelation 20:4, they can only see a post-Parousia (=Second Coming of Christ) millennial kingdom on the earth of embodied believers. A careful reading of these two passages, however, will reveal that they are describing the same experience.
Revelation 6:9
“[And] I saw (kai eidon)
“the souls of them that were slain”
(tas psuchas ton esphagmenon)
“for the word of God”
(dia ton logon tou theou)
“and for the testimony which they held”
(dia ten marturian hen eichon)
Revelation 20:4
“And I saw (kai eidon)
“the souls of them that were beheaded”
(tas psuchas ton pepelekismenon)
“for the word of God”
(dia ton logon tou theou)
“for the witness of Jesus”
(dia ten marturian ‘lesou)
In the light of the above comparison, which clearly reveals that they are both describing the same experience, is it not more biblical and intellectually honest, therefore, to conclude that the word “souls” in its immediate context: “and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus” and “and they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years” (v. 4) definitely does not refer to people living on earth , but rather to slain martyrs, specifically the intermediate state (see 2 Cor. 5:8) or aspect of the martyrs which still exists after their bodies have been cruelly put to death?
Does it not follow contextually and exegetically that the same scene in which the “souls” (from Greek, psychas or spirit) of these deceased martyrs “lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years” (vv. 4 and 6); therefore, is not earth, but heaven–and it is there that we are told in verse 6 that “the second death hath no power, but they (the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus) shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years?
(Moreover, is this (the truths in [a] and [b] not confirmed by the latter statement: “But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished” (v.5), which connects and agrees with the preceding statement, “and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus?” (v.4).
It is perfectly clear that scripture teaches the rapture takes place in the context of Christ’s coming (“parousia”) or return, which is one event, not two, and therefore it is biblical and correct to state that if one truly believes what Christ taught concerning His return: “But of that day or hour no one knows, no, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only” (Matthew 24:36), then, no one can know the day or hour when the rapture of the church will take place.
June 10, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Notwithstanding the remarks above, I don’t think it is fitting to mock a fellow believer in Christ, which Dr. Jack was, despite his faults–and we all have them. All who cast themselves upon the grace and mercy of god, in Jesus Christ, and fully trust Him in repentance and faith as their Lord and Saviour are Christians, according to the Bible. Going to church, Bible studies, partaking of the sacraments/ordinances (i.e. baptism, Lord’s Supper, Mass, Confirmation, etc.) does not make one a Christian, be they Catholic, Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Baptist, Salvation Army, Anglican, etc. Still, if one truly knows the Lord in a personal saving encounter with the Living and Risen Christ, one should attend a church where the Gospel is clearly and fully preached, where sinners who have broken God’s Holy Law (and we all have) are admonished to repent of sin, are pointed to Jesus Christ as the only assured way of salvation (John 14:6), are exhorted to trust fully in the merits of His redemptive work (His sinless life, crucifixion and resurrection) and not in any merit or so-called righteousness of their own (Isaiah 64:6; Titus 3:5) and receive Christ’s Atoning Sacrifice for cleansing and pardon from sin, forgiveness, and His imputed righteousness/justification/sanctification for salvation.
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February 16, 2014 at 5:13 pm
@ lyn: “We are not to judge…”
How can you say that, especially when you advocate reading the Scriptures?
“But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.” 1 Cor. 2:15
“Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour”. Leviticus 19:15
You need to practice what you preach, then you would not appear so shamefully ignorant and hypocritical. God expects us to judge, and even tells us how in the Scriptures. If you really want integrity, look up each and every form of the word “judge” (as I did) in Scripture. READ them all, then you will have a much better understanding of judgment. Pay particular attention to God scolding people for NOT judging.
February 16, 2014 at 5:11 pm
There is a reason Jesus warned that he would personally reject all but a very few. He warned that “you must be born again” (a fact that the Catholic church simply cannot tolerate). JVI’s pitiful little (usually about 18 seconds) prayerlet is unscriptural and does not lead to a genuine Born Again experience WITH Jesus. From decades of observing so-called “Christianity”, it’s become obvious that no more than 2% of all humanity will have their names truly written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.
The fact that so many people fall for liars like JVI, the Catholic church, etc., is ample testimony to how very Scripturally illiterate today’s so-called “Christians” really are. They are sitting ducks for Satan and his vast array of false religions and false prophets. The Catholic church even has an anathema curse for anyone who is not clergy who reads the Scriptures. There is a reason Jesus warned that FEW shall enter.
If these false-Christians knew the Scriptures, they could easily tell truth from lies, but they don’t so they can’t. Example: “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven” Matthew 23:9 That was a direct command from Jesus, yet JVI doesn’t really know or care near as much about Scripture as he pretends. There are countless other Scriptures that he doesn’t seem to know (or care to know).
If you research JVI, you will find that he has a long history of flip-flopping and false prophesies. He is a greedy opportunist; he’ll ultimately go where the money is. His boasting alone should be enough to tip-off any real Christian that he is not born again at all. He boasts of knowing 15,000 Scriptures, but there are obviousely some that he can’t deal with nor fit into his twisted doctrine.
JVI, once upon a time, embraced Islam. The great shameful irony of JVI’s attitude towards Islam now is, he has (once again) turned 180 degrees and now speaks against Islam, all the while embracing Catholicism! Now for the kicker: Google an article titled “How the Vatican created Islam” and read it if you dare. Then, you will have some real knowledge for a change. Likewise, search the same on Youtube. There are a number of videos about that there.
Catholic evil runs very deep, and the article, “How the Vatican created Islam. The astonishing story from an ex-Jesuit priest, Alberto Rivera, which was told to him by Cardinal Bea while he was at the Vatican” shows just how deep. This will rock your world!
JVI’s boasting is offensive and certainly now a true Christian trait. Why are so many “Christians” so very blind to this and so many other of his un-Christian antics? “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall”. Proverbs 16:18 JVI lacks true Christian humility and is destined (yet again) to fall.
Satan is making great use of JVI, as evidenced here, to decieve gullible, ignorant people and lead them into a greater evil: the Catholic church. Satan is pleased. Prophesy is fulfilled. FEW SHALL ENTER.
February 17, 2014 at 3:05 pm
JvI said, “Pope John Paul II has given me real direction in my life.” Don’t you find it suspicious that this so-called “Christian” previously had no direction in his life? This is a classic example of false Christianity and false conversion. If Jack had truly met Jesus (as born again people DO), his life would have real direction. God is not the author of confusion, but Jack seems to have an abundance of confusion.
“Christian” = BORN AGAIN. Jesus made that very clear. There were NO if’s, and’s or but’s about it; no two ways. Your name is either written in Jesus’ book of life, or you burn, just that simple. Look it up. Most of today’s “Christians” have never been born again. They are “Christian” in name only. “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire”. Revelation 20:15.
That has got to be about the most critical Scriptural warning of all. If you don’t take that dead serious, you are not going to be among the very few Jesus will call His. Ironically, the Catholic church tries it’s best to avoid that Scripture, saying that “born again” is a term coined by modern evangelists, etc. Over thousands of miles and four decades of time, that lame excuse is always the same. It’s as if the Catholic church has some sort of master sermon, or instructions to priests, telling them to downplay getting born again. Scripture always makes fools of high-minded Catholics (as it will at judgment day): “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again”. John 3:7
You see, the Catholic church would collapse if people READ the Scriptures, and subsequently got born again. They HATE the concept that a man, any man, can go directly TO JESUS and be forgiven for all sins, and have absolutely certain salvation. Catholicism teaches the exact opposite (Catholicism teaches the exact opposite of many Scriptures. Why is that?). This is why they don’t want people reading the Scriptures (Bible). This is also why they had to make their own Bible, so they could attempt to hide the Scriptures they have removed, and hide the false scriptures they have added.
To see a clear picture of just how much Catholicism HATES people being born again, find a complete Council of Trent, open it in Windows XP (any searchable application will work). Now search the word “anathema”. It will highlight every instance of “anathema”. As you scroll down, passing a curse here and a curse there scattered throughout, you will come to a spot where there is a large rash of highlighted “anathemas”; it appears to almost have been shot with a shotgun there are so many.
When you reach that spot, you are at the section “On Justification”. There are 33 curses there. They curse every element for faith for salvation. You are cursed for even thinking you have eternal life. Naturally, Scripture forbids cursing people:
“But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be”. James 3:8-10
WHY would a “Christian” organization, who pretends to care about saving souls, actually curse people so (122 + 28; over 150 times)? This shows forth the Catholic habit of ruling by fear and terror; scare tactics. How is JVI oblivious to this? How are you oblivious?
It takes a good liar to be a good Catholic, as well as being the embodiment of a Scriptural fool. JVI is just about such person. For example, how could he miss the IRREFUTABLE FACT that the Catholic church has removed the second commandment forbidding idolatry? How does he reconcile that with Scripture?
The fact of the matter is, anyone who knows this, yet continues with that lying false-Christian church, fully deserves the eternal damnation they will get. Jesus, the real Jesus, will NOT hesitate to reject all who are not personally acquainted with Him; on a first name basis. “And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity”. Matthew 7:23 Those will be the last words false-Christians will hear.
Open your phone book to “Churches” and notice the ridiculous number there are. God did not do that, Satan (and Satan’s men) did that. If you look, you will find that the one common denominator in them all, one way or another, they AVOID getting people born again. They will even teach you how to go to hell with a Bible under each arm. Again, “FEW shall enter”.
Just calling yourself “born again” or a “Christian” does not make it so. Salvation doesn’t rub-off on you; it’s not absorbed through the skin by osmosis. Going to church three times a week, living a good moral life, saying all the proper buzz-words, etc., does not get your name in Jesus’ book of Life. It takes a specific, deliberate, intense and sincere ACT to accept Jesus as Savior and Lord of your life. It is an act that requires extreme honesty, sincerity and humility. It is also a very rare act among “Christians”; most don’t know it. Again, “FEW shall enter”.
When I see people switching denominations as easily as changing underwear, particularly when the leave Protestantism for Catholicism, or worse, Islam, I know that they never did have any real Christian relationship with God at all in the first place. That is when it becomes evident how serious and literal it was when Jesus warned that FEW would enter. I have learned that the bulk and majority of today’s so-called Christians are totally lost hypocrites (and the rest of humanity isn’t even on the charts).
It baffles me, having met Jesus in my early teens, how anyone could just leave Christianity for Catholicism, Islam, or any of the countless other false religions. If they are really born again, how could they do that? For me, that would be a total impossibility; it would be like leaving my best friend forever. It can’t be done [by me]. My search for God has ended; I found him, there’s no reason to search farther. Catholics, JVI, Etc., can not know this, so they will ever be in a state of flux, never content, never forgiven, never a friend of Jesus. So sad.
“Religious” people (not Christians) are lonely and insecure people. This is evidenced by today’s social media craze. People are so lonely, and have no God or Jesus to commune with (in spite of their religious pretenses). They surround themselves with as much family and friends as they can, lest they be alone. When a religious person is alone, they are truly ALONE. This is why I have such difficulty relating to many, because I haven’t been alone for over 45 years! (and I’m single and “solitary”, too).
So, in conclusion, Satan has designed thousands of false religions and other ways to keep man from God. JVI and the Catholic church are only part of the overall equation. Satan fully intends to cause billions to stand before God as unforgiven idolators. Jack Van Impe is one of his tools.
“But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived”.
2 Timothy 3:13
June 1, 2014 at 4:21 pm
I QUOTE COLOSTOMY 3:21 I SAYETH THOU ARE FULL OF CRAP !!
June 1, 2014 at 4:18 pm
wasn’t Ronald Reagan on the anti christ list with FDR andJFK.
i find it so funny that the people who follow the superstitious religion of nomadic sheepherders both islam and Christianity to.be such war mongering idiots over a CONCEPT that can’t be proven!
September 16, 2014 at 3:13 pm
True Christianity is a working relationship with a living God. Very few who call themselves “Christian” ever get anywhere near that, which is why Jesus warned that He would reject all but a few. Over 40 years of God’s friendship and companionship, with countless very real and specific miracles, has more than proven the concept to me. Your uninformed opinion is based on the vast majority of false “Christians” you see around you, not true Christians. This is why you can’t understand it, so why bother trying? You got it wrong.
September 3, 2014 at 6:33 pm
Jack van Impe is a man of god and I rebuke you all who speak against him!
September 21, 2014 at 12:54 pm
Maria:
You have no right, power nor authority to rebuke anyone, particularly since you could easily be (have been) proven way wrong. Are you blind to the fact that JVI has set numerous dates for the rapture (Harpazo), none of which were right.
“When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him”. Deuteronomy 18:22
Satan depends on blind, foolish, silly women like you, who stop their ears to the truth, running around saying “Lalalala… Don’t confuse me with the facts… lalalala”, so they can’t hear it.
Remember when JVI was anti-Catholic? Remember how he flipped 180 degrees? He was wrong. Now, I am seeing him have some problems with the Catholic church today; he’s about to flip yet again! Yep, I’ve been watching it: One week, he doesn’t mention anything like “Pope” or “Catholic”, etc., then, he’s all over the pope the next week, then he (they) have some real criticism and disagreement with something the Pope said.
JVI is VERY inconsistent. True men of God are not. You are wrong:
“But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived”.
2 Timothy 3:13
You fell for it. Satan is pleased. God can’t be.
September 21, 2014 at 1:07 pm
Again, In the Name of our Precious Jesus I rebuke all your comments about Jack Van Impe. Holy Spirit gives me the authority to speak it but not against flesh but evil spirits we battle every day. Silly is the last thing to speak as you speak wrong of a prophet of god, Jack Van Impe. I pray for you sir.
September 21, 2014 at 1:20 pm
Oh, one more comment you do a lot of judging people, read up on that in the bible, are you reading the bible? Where you get your info. seems totally against Christ. I will pray for you to see the light.
September 21, 2014 at 6:18 pm
“But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man”. 1 Corinthians 2:15
“Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy
neighbour”. Leviticus 19:15
Too bad you can’t readn my “Judge Not” article. Then, you would see just how very wrong you are.
You really are a clueless, self-righteous wonder.
In one of your other misguided comments, you mention taking away and adding to Scripture: Are you so blind that you can’t see that JVI is oblivious to the FACT that the Catholic church has removed the second commandment forbiding idolatry (then split another commandment into two to try to hide their crime)? Why does that “man of God”; “walking Bible” turn a blind eye to that evil? Etc.?
I’ve researched and written over 45 articles about Spiritually evil people and/or churches. I have more Scriptural knowledge in my little finger than you (obviously) have in your whole body. You’ve already made a fool of yourself here; DON’T challenge me, or you’ll just end up looking worse.
September 21, 2014 at 1:02 pm
Even now, he’s flipping. I just watched JVI again, and there was not one solitary mention of the Pope or anything Catholic. Last week, he was all over the Pope. Now, he’s all over Islam and hawking his two new DVDs. I sure wish I could find more about it, but it’s fairly easy to see that he/they are having problems deciding what side of what they are on.
Very inconsistent.
September 21, 2014 at 1:14 pm
Maybe team up with a good bible study and learn the truth as Jack Van Impe is telling you. He’s not all over the place he’s showing you scripture and backs everything he speaks, he’s a man of god.
September 21, 2014 at 6:27 pm
You don’t dare address the FACT that JVI has set many dates for the Harpazo (“Rapture”; not in Scripture) and every one was wrong. What a hypocrite you are. Face it: JVI is a FALSE PROPHET. For someone boasting of Bible study, you sure are ignorant of Scripture. Why don’t you learn the signs of a false prophet? But, you are too self-righteous to admit that you were wrong. That’s how Satan snares and uses foolish, dishonest women like you.
September 21, 2014 at 6:37 pm
The Seven Bible Tests of a True Prophet
Introduction: Num. 12:6 “And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, [I] the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, [and] will speak unto him in a dream.”
Often God uses dreams and visions to reveal His will to mankind.
Test # 1) Isa. 8:20. “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.”
The “law” here is a reference to the “Law of Moses,” the first five books of the Old Testament, which also contain the Ten Commandments law, and “testimony” is a reference to the rest of the Old Testament, and by extension including the New Testament, which also contains the “testimony of Jesus Christ” (Rev. 12:17), that both together explain what the “Law of Moses” means in mankind’s practical experience.
True prophet’s sayings are totally consistent with all that the Holy Spirit has already revealed in Scripture.
Test #2) Jer. 23:14. “I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness. v.16, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, [and] not out of the mouth of the LORD.”
True prophets will reprove other prophet’s sins, rather than conspire to support one-another’s claims.
Test #3) Jer. 28:9. “The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, [then] shall the prophet be known, that the LORD hath truly sent him.”
True prophet’s predictions must come to pass, ALL of them.
Test #4) Mt. 7:15. “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. … Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. …Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”
True prophets lead people to repentance and humility before God, and to love their fellow humans. They never lead people to become competitive, prideful or self-exalting.
Test #5) 1 Jn. 4:2. “Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:” (See also Hebrews 4:15. Jesus “was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.”)
True prophets confess that Jesus came in our “fallen” human flesh, yet He got the victory over every sin and all sin, just as we can, through connection with His Father and our Father.
Test #6) Dan. 10:17. “For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me.”
True prophets have no strength or breath of their own while in vision, but supernatural strength from God.
Test #7) Jn. 1:15. “John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.”
True prophets exalt Christ alone, but never their own abilities.
October 5, 2014 at 1:17 pm
Part of the reason so many so blindly accept Jack Van Impe as a “man of God”, is not only a profound ignorance of what a true Christian is, but also profound ignorance of Catholicism as well. Anyone who accepts Catholicism as anything less than Satan’s finest product, doesn’t have the first clue as to how very evil the Catholic church is and has been. Catholicism depends on [people’s] ignorance, which is why it has employed such harsh scare tactics upon it’s people: fear and ignorance. Not that he knows nor cares, but Jack Van Impe has placed himself right there in it.
From it’s very beginning, to this very day, the Catholic church has had to devote a large portion of it’s energy to defending itself for it’s constant violation of Scripture. And, since there is no defense for what it has done, rather than have people read the truth from the real Scripture (“Bible”; not in the Bible), they had to write their own highly adulterated so-called Bible.
The mere fact that the Catholic church had the audacity and unmitigated gall to remove the second commandment from Scripture, should be enough to cause any real man of God to fully and completely discount Catholicism as anything other than pure Satanism. Yet, JVI has totally missed that.
Just why do you think the Catholic church wants you to commit idolatry? What good can that possibly do for anyone? Just how does that please God? Real Christians need to ask that.
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book”. Revelation 22:18,19
Apparently JVI missed that, too. For such a puffed up hypocrite, he sure misses a lot.
Satan’s Catholic church has caused more people to call Popes and priests “Father” than God himself. How did know-it-all JVI miss this Scripture? Or, does he just not really care? (Jesus speaking; commanding):
“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven”. Matthew 23:9
The Catholic church, Council of Trent, has pronounced no less than 200 anathema curses on anyone who refuses to become Catholic. In the section titled “On Justification”, there is a concentration of curses (33) that curse the very fabric of faith for salvation. Why does the Catholic church curse you so for wanting to be forgiven? How does JVI endorse such evil?:
“But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be”. James 3:8-10
Make no mistake about it: Even though the current Catholic excuse for those curses is that they are no longer in effect, with every Vatican council, they are all required to sign a document saying that they fully accept the declarations of Trent.
And, of course, let’s not forget the Catholic Christ-mass (“Christmas”). Any real Christian (not JVI) knows that Catholic mass is blasphemy. Jesus was not born on December 25th (“Tamuz” was; look that up), nor was he born in the winter (and it says that right there in Scripture).
“Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not”. Jeremiah 10:2-4
These are but a very few examples; there are thousands more that clearly show that Satan’s Roman Catholic church wants people to stand before God as unforgiven, blasphemous idolaters. That will be the end result as they do everything possible to keep people from accepting JESUS as their lord and savior, being forgiven of all sins and having their names written in Jesus’ Lamb’s Book of Life (as Jesus warns):
“Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again”. John 3:7
“And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire”. Revelation 20:15
Ask yourselves why, dear friends, is such a “man of God” as JVI helping Satan’s Catholic church to insure the eternal damnation of billions? Why?
Catholicism IS clearly the enemy of true Christianity. It takes a self-deceived liar and the Scriptural epitome of a fool, to accept the Catholic church as anything less than Satan’s pure evil intent. JVI is just such a person.
February 6, 2015 at 9:48 pm
Let’s move click here on to pin as far as possible. Include the chemical supplier’s contact information on it for bath robes, night gowns.
Synthetic include nylon, and has a pretty sharp dresser already.
November 1, 2015 at 2:05 pm
I have been watching all this time. True to the nature of a two-faced hypocrite, JVI has backed off from his love affair with the Pope and Catholicism. He was all over him for a while, but now he doesn’t mention him/it at all. I remember him commenting on things the Pope said that he didn’t agree with. JVI seems to spend a lot of time shaming himself then running from that shame (to another one).
He’s moved on from Catholicism to Islam (etc.,etc.,etc.). One ironic thing is, when he’s exposing Islam for what it is, I agree with him! It’s too bad this “walking Bible” can’t find or show the Scriptures pertaining to the making of Islam, nor explain how they are pertinent.
He/they spend a lot boasting of him and how much he (thinks) he knows. I have even watched this hypocrite boast about how “humble” he is. It was sickening, knowing what real humility looks like. It was disgusting. Maybe that’s why he got sick and went away for a long time.
He didn’t talk about Catholicism, nor Islam today. He talked a lot about “the rapture” (not in Scripture), yet he doesn’t have the sense/ knowledge to call it by it’s real name, the Harpazo (“forceful catching away”; kidnapping). I don’t think he would pass up an opportunity to boast on more of his knowledge. I think he just doesn’t know. Typical. No surprise.
December 4, 2015 at 1:12 pm
While JVI might share a few qualities with anti-Christ, he doesn’t begin to come close to the evil Pope Francis is spewing. In fact, none on the list come anywhere close to Pope Francis’ lies…
General Audience – June 25, 2014 – Pope Francis:
“There is no ‘do-it-yourself’ in the church, no ‘freelancers’. How many times did we hear Pope Benedict describe the church as a ‘we’ church? Sometimes you may hear someone say, ‘I believe in God, in Jesus, but the church… I don’t care.’ How many times have we heard this? This is wrong. There are those who believe you can have a personal, direct and immediate relationship with Jesus Christ outside of the communion and mediation of the church. These temptations are dangerous and harmful. They are, in the words of the great Pope Paul VI, ‘absurd dichotomies.'”
Catholic Song invoking Lucifer, sung in Latin, then translated:
“Flames of Lucifer finds dawn, This, I say, Lucifer, who will never be defeated, Christ is your son, who came back from hell, shed his peacful light, and is alive and reigns in the world without end.”
When the Pope’s Deacon invoked Lucifer during the Easter vigil Mass of 2012, he started it with “Flaming Lucifer finds Mankind…”.
York’s st. Patric’s Cathedral – Sept 24, 2015
The Pope said:
“The cross shows us a different way of measuring success. Ours is to plant the seeds. God sees the fruits of our labors. And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.”
It’s clear to see that this man DOES NOT LOVE NOR EVEN KNOW JESUS. This is NOT CHRISTIANITY. It is pure, satanic evil.
The Pope said: “When we read about creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining that God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But this is not so. He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfillment.”
Not only does the Pope prove that he hates Jesus, but that he also hates God as well. This is why both he and the Catholic church throughout history have always taught that God is weak and feeble, with common human frailties and plagues. This is Christian faith? NOT!
The Latin equivalent of the Greek ‘anti’ is ‘vicarius’ from which comes ‘vicar’. Thus, ‘Vicar of Christ’ literally means Antichrist.
Nope, Jack Van Impe doesn’t even come close to the Pope in scope, power, history of world wide evil, etc., etc., etc. None of them do.
Maybe the above explains why JVI has backed off from the Pope; he can no longer endorse him, yet he doesn’t have the spiritual guts to admit he was wrong and renounce/denounce the Pope.
[MODERATOR: Put the Pope on the anti-Christ list and let’s start over, because it’s just getting good and there are tons of fresh manure from who clearly IS Anti-Christ]
March 7, 2016 at 9:17 pm
This website should be stricken, this Quay Fish guy is “all wet”, probably the anti-Christ in disguise.
May 15, 2016 at 8:50 pm
This article is full of crap!!!! Jack Van Impe never ever says Islam is the same religion as the Bible, and he doesn’t say they are peaceful. Where are getting your information????
May 16, 2016 at 9:04 pm
I watch his programs, and I believe he preaches truth from God’s word. He has a very lovely wife who stands up for truth also. I pray he has a great recovery.
May 29, 2016 at 10:33 pm
Who ever wrote this is a liar! Half of what you have written is crap about Jack Van Emp!!!!You should ask for forgiveness!!
January 13, 2017 at 12:59 am
That is a complete lie
May 13, 2017 at 8:14 am
God can not and will not endorse a LIAR, just that simple. It’s amazing how immoral and intentionally blind so many are. NO Christian integrity or righteous indignation that the man has REPEATEDLY proven himself a liar and false prophet. Truth matters not to liars. That is why no one can ever make any real case for him, just little quips. It’s also clear that Scripture matters not to these so-called “Christians”. Jesus warned he would burn false Christians like these.
Decades of observing religions and false Christianity have revealed some things to me. One of which is that “scum sticks together”. In other words, bad people tend to stick to bad people; they “clump together”.
That being said, seeing how Van Impe cleaves to the (JESUIT) Pope and other wrong people, I predicted that he was a Republican and therefore pro-Trump. Sure enough, I was right. The thread of dishonesty runs through them all. Liars endorse liars, truth matters not. That is how so many so-called “Christians” can endorse Trump, the greatest LIAR ever (after Satan).
God warned that in the last days, STRONG DELUSION:
“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness”. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
So, that is why there is such an abundance of deluded liars supporting Van Impe, supporting the Pope, supporting Trump, supporting LIARS. These are not true born again Christians who LOVE TRUTH, these are the many damned that Jesus warned he would burn.
“…strong delusion…” Think about it; look in the mirror.
January 27, 2018 at 2:11 am
Jack and Rexella. So close and yet so far… I have found the Bible, like JVI and have added a second testimony of Jesus Christ, The Book of Mormon!
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August 7, 2021 at 5:44 pm
I liked Jack a lot . A very great man what would you expect from a bunch of liberal _ _ _ _ _ _ < < from Canada. I would like to leave california, and Canada would be the last hole I would ever go to. If you want to find some real bible hypocrisy, read genesis 12 1through 3, just ask Donald Trump. After what Trump did for God and his chosen people ,his chosen nation, and his apple in his eye people, where is Trump's reward? A real slap in the face.