Game over, says Falwell. From Rev. Jerry Falwell’s sermon last Sunday at the Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, Virginia:
FALWELL: I expect the Lord to return in the 21st century to Rapture at his church. Now, I can’t prove that. I cannot prove that the Lord is gonna come in this century. No one knows the day or the hour, but in my heart I believe it because there are no more predicted events that need to happen before our Lord can return.
[…]
I expect a global economy in the 21st century, which first will manifest itself as a cashless society. I believe that plastic will take the place of cash, and that while this will only be fulfilled during the tribulation period at the Rapture, I believe that God is setting the stage for, and laying the infrastructure for, a cashless society right now. Most people, many pay their bills online already. And the day will come, I believe, when there will be no cash, and the only way you can get cash and trade and to do business is to [points to his forehead] have the mark of the beast.
And then I expect the nations of the world in the 21st century to move rapidly towards a one-world government. We already have the U.N. — it’s a useless bunch. But we’ve already got the U.N., and they will not be the one-world government, but they are the infrastructure, the stage on which the Antichrist will build his one-world government.
(Via Media Matters).
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January 8, 2007 at 8:47 am
For the record in this New Year 2007, I concur with Reverend Jerry Fallwell’s viewpoint preached at his Thomas Road Baptist Church, Lynchburg, Virginia on Sunday, August 27, 2006 and I too believe that world historical events are pointing toward “the imminent pre-tribulation rapture of the Christian Faithful” and the immediate appearance thereafter of the antichrist in ruling our earth and controlling all commerce in the world with his infamous “mark of the beast”, the Tribulation and the Great Tribulation. Then after these historial events, Christ’s ultimate Second Coming with His faithful saints and angels after the Great Tribulation (the time of Jacob’s troubles)to save the world from destruction lest “no flesh be saved”.
Quay Fortuna did well when he published his article:”Falwell: No more predicted events remain before the Rapture” This well-known, Bible-following preacher was given Quay’s “Armageddon Cocktail Hour” on Friday, September 1, 2006 to get his sermon out on the internet far-beyond Lynchburg, Virginia and to inform international internet audiences who are literate using the wordwide web.
In 2005, I wrote the book, Alienated Planet Earth and the End that Will be Coming to Our World (ISBN: 1412050154)
URL: trafford.com/04-2823 trying to prepare our contemporary general literate population for the “imminent rapture event” of the Christian faithful using the Bible and its prophecy to warn people of what is coming upon our world sometime soon.
When the rapture actually occurs in earth’s history, nobody is going to miss this significant historical event which will be followed by those left-behind who will promptly yield to the rule of the antichrist (and the absolute horror suffered by the Tribulation/Great Tribulation saints) who will be persecuted and killed for not yielding to the antichrist’s rule because at the time of the rapture, they had not believed in Jesus, the world’s Messiah so that they could be taken to be in heaven with Him and be safely refuged during this terrible time in world history.
Christ and His Faithful should pray as long as we are still on our earth that Quay Fortuna and others who appear to be mocking our Christian belief (particularly in the Rapture)will become informed and prepared to be spared from those things which are coming upon our world. After all, Jesus Himself spoke of the rapture in Luke 17 verses 34, 35, and 36 and in Matthew 24 verses 40 and 41. The Apostle Paul later corroborated and explained what Jesus said in his epistles to the early Thessalonian and Corinthian churches. Check out: 1 Thessalionians, Chapter 4 verses 13 through 18 and 1 Corinthians, Chapter 15 verses 51 through 57. The rapture event has its origins in earliest l Christianity from its very inception.
As a Christian Eschatological writer, the Amrageddon Cocktail Hour has frequently been featuring the names of many contemporary people such as Jack Van Impe, and Senator Barack Obama as potential antichrist candidates. However, Bible prophecy is very clear that the antichrist will be revealed AFTER the rapture event and not before it. So in this respect speculating on precisely who is the antichrist is a waste of time until the rapture has occurred in history. A tip for Quay is that he should inform himself and his loved ones to be prepared for the rapture event. If it were not real, the Lord Jesus would have never mentioned it in the gospels of Luke and Matthew and then had the Apostle Paul expound upon the concept in his epistles (letters) to the early Thessalonian and Corinthian churches.
Thanking Quay and others for the forum entitled the Armageddon Cocktail Hour
to get this Biblicaly-based message out to much broader internet audiences.
January 8, 2007 at 8:52 am
For the record in this New Year 2007, I concur with Reverend Jerry Fallwell’s viewpoint preached at his Thomas Road Baptist Church, Lynchburg, Virginia on Sunday, August 27, 2006 and I too believe that world historical events are pointing toward “the imminent pre-tribulation rapture of the Christian Faithful” and the immediate appearance thereafter of the antichrist in ruling our earth and controlling all commerce in the world with his infamous “mark of the beast”, the Tribulation and the Great Tribulation. Then after these historial events, Christ’s ultimate Second Coming with His faithful saints and angels after the Great Tribulation (the time of Jacob’s troubles)to save the world from destruction lest “no flesh be saved”.
Quay Fortuna did well when he published his article:”Falwell: No more predicted events remain before the Rapture” This well-known, Bible-following preacher was given Quay’s “Armageddon Cocktail Hour” on Friday, September 1, 2006 to get his sermon out on the internet far-beyond Lynchburg, Virginia and to inform international internet audiences who are literate using the wordwide web.
In 2005, I wrote the book, Alienated Planet Earth and the End that Will be Coming to Our World (ISBN: 1412050154)
URL: trafford.com/04-2823 trying to prepare our contemporary general literate population for the “imminent rapture event” of the Christian faithful using the Bible and its prophecy to warn people of what is coming upon our world sometime soon.
When the rapture actually occurs in earth’s history, nobody is going to miss this significant historical event which will be followed by those left-behind who will promptly yield to the rule of the antichrist (and the absolute horror suffered by the Tribulation/Great Tribulation saints) who will be persecuted and killed for not yielding to the antichrist’s rule because at the time of the rapture, they had not believed in Jesus, the world’s Messiah so that they could be taken to be in heaven with Him and be safely refuged during this terrible time in world history.
Christ and His Faithful should pray as long as we are still on our earth that Quay Fortuna and others who appear to be mocking our Christian belief (particularly in the Rapture)will become informed and prepared to be spared from those things which are coming upon our world. After all, Jesus Himself spoke of the rapture in Luke 17 verses 34, 35, and 36 and in Matthew 24 verses 40 and 41. The Apostle Paul later corroborated and explained what Jesus said in his epistles to the early Thessalonian and Corinthian churches. Check out: 1 Thessalionians, Chapter 4 verses 13 through 18 and 1 Corinthians, Chapter 15 verses 51 through 57. The rapture event has its origins in earliest Christianity from its very inception.
As a Christian Eschatological writer, the Amrageddon Cocktail Hour has frequently been featuring the names of many contemporary people such as Jack Van Impe, and Senator Barack Obama as potential antichrist candidates. However, Bible prophecy is very clear that the antichrist will be revealed AFTER the rapture event and not before it. So in this respect speculating on precisely who is the antichrist is a waste of time until the rapture has occurred in history. A tip for Quay is that he should inform himself and his loved ones to be prepared for the rapture event. If it were not real, the Lord Jesus would have never mentioned it in the gospels of Luke and Matthew and then had the Apostle Paul expound upon the concept in his epistles (letters) to the early Thessalonian and Corinthian churches.
Thanking Quay and others for the forum entitled the Armageddon Cocktail Hour
to get this Biblicaly-based message out to much broader internet audiences.
March 6, 2007 at 5:43 pm
“Even so,come quickly,Lord Jesus!
March 6, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Even so,come quickly,Lord Jesus!
March 15, 2007 at 12:15 am
So you’re shockproof, you say? Let’s see if you really are. Go Googling and put in “Pretrib Rapture Diehards” and “Famous Rapture Watchers.” J.E.
March 29, 2007 at 6:44 pm
you people are funny. An earth that is literally billions of years old and you think that some magical figment of your imagination is going to end the world in your lifetime. OK Chicken Little, keep on titheing and getting ol’ Jerry his paycheck, cuz the world is ending. At least there will be no abortion and god forbid, GAY MARRAGE!!! Gasp
April 24, 2007 at 10:28 pm
Ryan…since you know it all…answer me this….without using speculation, theory or conjecture…tell me where mankind comes from (the genesis of the human)and then tell me WHY mankind exists…rememebering that the grandfather of modern science couldn’t do it…Sir Isaac Newton..you smarter than him? He was a devout Christian…odd that someone so brilliant needed faith to answer the two questions that you have absolutely no clue about. Rememeber in life…easiest thing is to be a critic…so instead of criticizing..share with us and the world where man comes from and why we exist…then I will submit to your authority…seems fair to me…how ’bout you?
T
April 25, 2007 at 12:06 am
I’m waiting for the Al Aqsa mosque foundation to crumble so that the temple can be rebuilt.
May 3, 2007 at 6:44 pm
Padraig,
I think that the present can only be explained by the influence of the past and the future. The present is created by the dual influence of both. Simply put, the fact that we are here, means that the universe is a bio-friendly one, because if it weren’t, we would not be here to observe it. Also, if life exists in the future, then the universe remains a bio friendly one and so on. I believe that the universe is completely capable of creating life on it’s own, with it’s own processes, and no supernatural influence. This is proven by the simple fact that you and I exist. If in the future, some other being is also able to percieve the bio-friendliness of this universe then, logically, the universe also created it, with natural non-supernatural processes. I hope this helps lol. You are right, God helps explain the unexplainable. “He” always has. Just like hidden easter eggs explain the Easter Bunny and Presents under the tree prove the existance of Santa.
Ryan
May 3, 2007 at 6:55 pm
Ryan, what kind of gobaldy gook is that?
So, you’re an atheist? I wonder if you still will be someday when you’re in a fox hole, surrounded by people who want to kill you, or you find out you have terminal cancer, or you see one of your children die and know you’ll never see them again. Atheists. What a sad bunch of hopeless, deluded people.
May 8, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Kevin,
What about my explanation did you not understand? If someone close to me dies, I will mourn them like anyone else. Why should I however, try and lessen my greif through the belief in myths and superstition? Death is death. If we learn to deal with it logically, life is easier to understand for what it is, the universe becoming aware of itself.
Ryan
May 8, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Myths and superstitions? Christ is not a myth. He’s either the biggest liar and con man that ever lived or he’s who he says he is.
You made your choice. I’ve made mine.
I hope you have a long life. It’s the only one you’ll be able to enjoy.
May 8, 2007 at 9:27 pm
How is the story of Jesus any different than that of Muhamed or Buddah, or Gilgamesh, or Promethius? Don’t you see that all these stories are created by the human mind in order to control the uneducated populace, and to ease the fear of non-existance?. I am not saying that the stories aren’t helpul in a literary or moral sense, I am juat saying that believing that a man that lived 2000+ years ago was God, and that he is going to return to save the faithful in our time, just seems a little bit illogical and naive. What about the millions and millions of people that believe in buddism, Hinduism, Shamanism, Atheism, etc. Are they all just wrong and going to Hell? Also, what about the countless others who lived before the advent of monotheism in pre-history. Are they are all in hell too? Not to get too crazy here, but what if there is intellegent life somewhere else? Are they also doomed to hell? It seems to me that your God speaks with a forked toungue. “I love you unconditionally, as long as you are a Christian, or catholic, or protestant, or baptist, or anti-abortion, or anti-gay marriage, etc., etc. I think that modern Christianity is really nothing more than a sounding board for the political right. If I am wrong , then why hasn’t the christian population become a stronghold to protect the enviroment? I think that what humans are doing to “God’s Creation” is absolutely immoral. Yet you do not see any Christian group standing up for our habitat. Instead they rally around non-issues like gay marriage and abortion. I think that Jesus would have been an eviromentalist and not some war mongering, oil chasing, earth destroyer. Yet our “Christian Right President” sits Idolly by and watches our beautiful, and only, home destroyed for profit. Is this “holy”? I think that Christians are being used by the worst elements of humanity. Let’s make a deal, if the Christian populace will get together and save our habitat, then I will become a card carrying Christian. I have seen nothing come from the christian religion in my lifetime except sexual scandal and war over belief. You all need to join those of us who really care about this planet, and humanity, by worring about this life, the present, and not some mytholoical afterlife. You all say you love children. imagine our great grandchildren starving and fighting wars over water etc. The scale of the death and destruction our species faces is unprecidented. If Christians devoted their energy to saving the enviroment half as much as they do abortion, we would win the fight in a landslide. If you do decide to help save our planet, you might see more of us heathens at church on Sunday.
Ryan
May 8, 2007 at 10:35 pm
Lemt first say this: God doesn’t send anyone to Hell. You send yourself there. You have the right to choose. God could’ve made us all robots and programmed us to love him and choose him, but instead, he chose to let us choose for ourselves. He DOES love us unconditionally. WE put the conditions on Him. Just like you did when you said you would be card carrying christian if we save the habitat. This world is NOT the world God had planned when he created it. Man and SIN made it this way. We chose to rebel against God and this is what we ended up with. Do you like what we’ve got? Comparing Jesus to Muhammed, Buddah, etc. is hardly a comparison. They’re all DEAD. Christ was resurrected. WE don’t serve a dead God. You think Jesus was merely a great human teacher and example? If He is merely a man, he doesn’t even deserve to be honored, because he must have been either a lying deceiver or a crazy fanatic, thus, not even a good man! Jesus claimed again and again to be God’s ONLY son, to have rights and powers which belong ONLY to God. ANd as far as saving the planet, don’t worry, God WILL DO THAT at the appointed time. The BIBLE was written by men through the power of the HOlY SPIRIT. There are NO ERRORS. Everything the writers of the old testament said would come to pass concernng Jesus’ birth, didnIN FACT happen to the letter…doesn’t it only stand to reason that everything the New Testament says will happen, and IT EVEN GIVES US SIGNS TO LOOK FOR, SOME OF WHICH HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED, tell you that his isn’t some fairy tale? Wise up, man. Don’t let satan have your soul. It’s eternal and someday when you close your eyes in death, you’ll open them SOMEWHERE. Our souls are immortal! Be smart. Instead of worrying about the planet and the environment so much, worry about your eternal desting. God will take care of the environment.
May 8, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Sorry I made so many typographical errors. I was in a hurry.
Ryan, I pray you’ll receive the message of Christ. I want you to go to Heaven. It IS real. Christ is real. And he wants to have a relationship with you. Religion and christianity are two different things.. religion is man made, christianity is a way of life, a relationship with God.
I’m sorry we christians have let you down. We’re only human, too. We have faults, problems, trials, broken dreams, etc. But we also have hope. We know this is temporary. God has a plan and it’s unfolding right before our eyes. I hope you will see it and accept it for yourself. He died for you. In your place.
Beleive it, receive it.
May 9, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Let’s just hope then that you are right and God just miraculously saves us from ourselves… I will continue to work for my children’s children’s right to exist on a planet that is habitable, just in case YOU are wrong.
Take care,
Ryan
May 9, 2007 at 9:23 pm
I’m not wrong.
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.
Titus 1:2 ..a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time.
One day you’ll know.
May 10, 2007 at 5:58 pm
And Ryan, as an afterthought, remember this,
without God’s Word central in our lives all that is left is that we find ourselves doing our own very best thinking…..and it falls so far short of the thinking of God and the plans that he has for us AND our world…His way is perfect, His plans are perfect…I pray he reveals himself to you and that you will have an open heart.l
May 15, 2007 at 5:52 pm
Do you think that Jerry Falwell still thinks now? I think he quit thinking today. RIP
May 16, 2007 at 10:24 am
Ryan, buddy, Jerry Falwell did not stop thinking yesterday.
In the Bible, in the book of 2 Corinthians, chapter 5, verse 6, it says “to be absent from the body is to be PRESENT WITH THE LORD.” Jerry Falwell is absent from his earthly bodily, and is now “present with the Lord.” Jerry Falwell is very much alive.
The Bible also teaches us in Psalm 116:15 that “precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints”.
Any one who recognizes Jesus Christ as the Son of God, is a “saint”. That doesn’t mean we don’t sin from time to time because we are human, it just means that we’re forgiven by the shed blood of Jesus. He died in our place, paid the price for us, we accept it, God the Father recognizes it, and we’re one of HIS.
I really wish you would read the Bible. It’s God’s love letter to us. You would be amazed at the peace and hope you get from receiving Him. Your whole way of thinking takes on a new perspective when you know the truth.
No matter what I say, if your heart is not ready to receive it, it means nothing.
I’m sharing the truth with you.
Take care.
May 16, 2007 at 2:28 pm
Falwell made it comfortable for churches to get actively involved in politics,” says the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. “His strategy will be continued by his would-be successors — a focus on hot-button issues like gay marriage (rather than significant moral issues like child poverty and health care), and an eagerness to make outrageous statements to the media, in order to build a religious-political empire.”
Many now remember him most for outrageous statements he made after leaving the Moral Majority — in 1999, his house organ the National Liberty Journal warned parents that the Tinky Winky TV character was secretly gay and morally dangerous; in 2001, he blamed the September 11 terrorist attack on “pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America.”
JUST A LITTLE RIDICULOUS DONT YOU THINK? THIS HAS BEEN MY POINT.
Just so you know, I have studied the bible extensively in college, I minored in religion, and I find it a great literary work. But to say that I believe everthing in it is like saying you believe that the Illiad and the Odessey are both true and written by god.
Ryan
May 16, 2007 at 4:09 pm
If you can’t believe everything in it, how can you believe ANYTHING in it?
What? You just pick out what you like, and believe that?
God is not a pick and choose God.
Abortion, homosexuality, immorality, Do you think God approves of those things? C’mon.
I don’t worship Jerry Falwell or another religious leader. People make outrageous statements…like Rosie O’Donnell…are you one of Her fans?
Don’t judge God by what you see christians do. And it’s one thing to study the Bible with your mind, it’s quite another to receive it into your heart.
You’re MISSING the whole point.
May 16, 2007 at 9:33 pm
A number of years ago, I was fortunate enough to hear Jerry speak in person and got to shake his hand.
This household will miss him.
May 17, 2007 at 12:53 am
Jeryy Falwell was a man who was not afraid to speak out against sin. It’s okay if the homosexuals gather together and shove their agenda at us whether we like it or not, or the pro-abortionists, or the filth we’re subject to hear and see on radio and TV…but let a christian speak out against everything that GOD CLEARLY calls sin, and the world rises up and shakes it’s fist. Look around. Do you like what this culture has turned in to? Do you like all the broken homes, violence, disrespect, filty language..do you like what the tolerance of sin has brought to this nation? I respect Jerry Falwell and I admire his guts to stand up for what he beleives in.
I”m with you Mrs. DJ. This household will miss him as well.
May 17, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Your deluded. The world is the same now as it was 500 years ago. People were gay, Had abortions and used filthy language. Just like today. The main diff with our world now is that we are killing it and everything that lives on it and the “Christian Right would rather bicker about no issues like gay marriage and abortion. Don’t you realize that if the planet changes we all die? Billions of people! Think the dinosaurs kind of mass exticntion. Oh yeah, you all belive that god created the world 10,000 years ago. What a joke.
May 17, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Your deluded. The world is the same now as it was 500 years ago. People were gay, Had abortions and used filthy language. Just like today. The main diff with our world now is that we are killing it and everything that lives on it and the “Christian Right would rather bicker about no issues like gay marriage and abortion. Don’t you realize that if the planet changes we all die? Billions of people! Think the dinosaurs kind of mass exticntion. Oh yeah, you all belive that god created the world 10,000 years ago. What a joke.
May 17, 2007 at 6:41 pm
By the way, why the hell do you care if a gay couple gets married? Didn’t JC say “Judge not lest ye be judged?” You people always like to choose the dumbest of fights to join. It changes nothing to let gay folks get hitched. All it does is give them an even shot to fuck it up like us straight folks do.
Just a thought. Keep your Homophobic “morality” to yourself and do something for the good for the species on this planet. Change a lightbulb. Take the bus. Carpool, Unplug electronics when not in use. Buy a hybrid vehicle instead of your I LOVE JESUS stickered ford F150 with the redneck duallys on the back.
May 17, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Calm down, Ryan. I DON’T care if a gay couple gets married. But God DOES. If you’re the Bible scholar that you say you are, you should know that.
I’m not going to argue with you. You’ve chosed your path.
Good Luck. (You’re going to need it.)
May 18, 2007 at 2:06 pm
Ryan, after re-reading your emotional outburst, I have a few more comments.
Judge not? I’d like to clarify something. There’s a big difference between a judgement and an OPINION. I find your post 28 is JUDGEMENTAL against christians. My opinions are based on the proven facts of God’s word. It’s infallible and TRUTH. I would rather be on the side of God ANY DAY than listen to the ramblings of people like you. In my OPINION YOU’RE the deluded one.
You’re focus on the planet…God is in control of this planet…not the humans. God is in control of everything whether you want to believe it or not. You choose not to believe it, so change your light bulbs, worry about extinction, do whatever it is the people in your camp do. The difference between you and me is that I HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
I was merely sharing the TRUTH with you and I did it respectfully, which is more than I can say for you.
You’ve been told the truth so when your times comes and your face to face with God, there will be no excuse you can give God for your rebellion against HIM. Make no mistake, that day WILL COME.
May 18, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Kevin,
If your beliefs are true, then prove it… Not possible, just as it is impossible to prove mine, because faith requires blind allegence to the religious ideology. The idea that God is able to make anything happen makes faith possible, no matter the scientific evidence against it. I am not an atheist per say. I am agnostic in the sense that I don’t know, and I have the courage to say so even if the “Wrath of God” comes down upon me from on high. Christians say that god is a loving, forgiving God, but he is willing to allow my eternal soul to burn in the fires of hell for eternity if I don’t beleve some irrational, illogical, story written thousands of years ago? Didn’t your loving, forgiving God expell Moses from the promised land for hitting a rock more than once? I also remember a story where he alowed the devil to torture a faithful man and kill his whole family to prove a point. The Jews burned entire citys with the arc of the covenant and slaughtered the inhabitants with no mercy. Sounds loving and forgiving to me…
Ryan
P.S. Sorry about the emotional rant, I was out of line. Rough day yesterday.
May 18, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Ryan,
God IS a loving and forgiving God. He is also a God of justice. He is fair. The same rules apply to everyone. You choose right, you get rewarded. You choose wrong, you face punishment. But YOU CHOOSE.
God doesn’t want anyone to go to Hell. Hell wasn’t even created for the human race. It was created for satan and his angels.
God has laid down the ground rules. It’s His world, His creation. God created us to have a relationship with him. But he wants us to CHOOSE to have that relationship. Don’t you appreciate love freely given? Would you want to pick out a woman and program her to love you the way you want her to, or would you get more pleasure from her giving herself to you because she chooses you above everyone else? God created us in HIS image. Our spirits are like His. No other creation is like us. Free will, free choice, free everything.
Every choice has a consequence. Choose to reject God, you go to Hell. Choose God, you live with Him. Simple.
Prove it? I think it IS proven. Simple facts prove it. The BIBLE itself PROVES it. I don’t have blind faith. My eyes are wide open. I know the truth, and THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE.
Haven’t you ever wondered why Jews & Christians are the most hated/attacked people on the planet? Who do you think is behind it? Haven’t you ever considered this is a spiritual war? And the prize is YOUR SOUL.
Remember something. The devil doesn’t care what you believe, AS LONG AS IT’S THE WRONG THING. Satan has been observing us for years and he knows exactly how to manipulate, fool and CON us. Don’t be conned. Be wise. Be smarter than the devil is.
Satan doesn’t want you to listen to me. He wants you to think all of us christians are bunch of ideological idiots. And you’re free to think that. Jesus even said, don’t be surprised that the world hates you. It hated me before it hated you.
You say you have the courage to say you don’t know. So, basically, you’re willing to drift through life, not knowing, and hoping that if there is a God, and because he IS loving and forgiving, He’ll make an exception for you. Or, even worse, you’re willing to accept his wrath even though there would never be another chance once you die an earthly death.
No offense, but that doesn’t sound couragious to me. To me,that sounds stupid. When you’re eternity is at stake, I’d be darn sure I believed the right thing.
May 18, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Ryan, getting back to if God is so loving and forgiving……
1. God is not willing to let your eternal soul burn in Hell. That’s why he sent Jesus Christ. To die a HORRIBLE death in YOUR PLACE. Christ paid the price for YOU and YOUR SINS…if you accept it. If you don’t accept it, then you have the responsibility of paying for your own sin.
2. irrational, illogical, story written thousands of years ago? Sorry pal, that story is hardly illogical and there’s no other book like it. The Holy Spirit wrote that book through men over hundreds of years…several of these men never even knew each other, yet their books work with each other, telling the same truths…there are no errors, and it’s prophetic to the letter…it’s a masterpiece. Or should I say, the Master’s piece. It tells you how to live, and it tells you how much God loves you and how to have a restored relationship with Him.
3. Moses DISOBEYED God. He through a fit. God disciplines his children. Just because a parent spanks his child doesn’t mean he no longer loves him and forgives him. When we disobey our heavenly father he intervenes. WE may not like it, because by nature we are a rebellious bunch, but God does it because he loves us and knows what’s best for us.
4. Yes, God allowed the Devil to test Job. And when the test was through, he gave him twice as much as he had before. God KNEW Job would be faithful. Job didn’t know it, or understand what was happening to him. This book shows a faith in God that has touched millions of people when they are facing trials. And in the end JOB won. This man is a testimony to anyone facing anything difficult in life. Perserverence, strength, conviction. Athough Job didn’t understand at the time what was happening to him, his faith never faltered. You never know how one solitary life can impact the world. Even yours.
5. The Jews burned entire cities….yes they did. And if they would’ve completed the job God told them to, we/they wouldn’t have the problems in the Middle East that the world has today. The nations surrounding Israel are all descendants of people that worshipped other gods and wanted to destroy the Jews. God will never let that happen. Consider that Israel is about the size of Rhode Island…surrounded by enemies on all her borders…Iran would love to fire a missile right into her..all those countries hate her, and they hate us because we’re her friend and most of us worship the same God. These other nations think Allah is the one true God…..and their mission is to annilate anyone that doesn’t think so..especially the ones worshipping Adonai and Jesus Christ. And it’s happening right in front of us.
I hope someday you will recognize Adonai, and HIS SON Jesus Christ as your savior. I really hope you do…everything will make sense to you then.
June 2, 2007 at 1:27 pm
Ryan,
You have proven quite repetitiously that you have no clue, except to pontificate, about where mankind comes from and why we exist. Christianity is easy to debunk. Just disprove the resurrection. Nobody who has ever lived since it happened has been able to do it. Do you believe at least one intelligent has tried? Neither Einstein or Newton could answer the two questions I posed to you. Their mental radiance is something you will never experience so all you are left with is speculation, theory and conjecture. And you try to sell that like a modern-day medicine man. The relevant question is how many people are buying what you are selling? There is no beginning and no end to the “what if’s” that your life will cater to…it is not your fault…it is just a mortal ideology that you adopted. Even your ideology has to be adopted because you don’t even know who created that. Religion is of the mind and faith is of the heart. Just remember this as you wander aimlessly through life in search of the truth….how many atheists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? it doesn’t matter…they can’t see the light anyway. If you don’t prepare for the coming “flood” you will be left behind. When all the goodness is taken out of the world, when evil is allowed to reign unfettered…you will be there to witness it. And you can’t prevent it unless you come to Jesus. It doesn’t matter what your uneducated retort might be, it doesn’t matter how much fear guides your life..it doesn’t even matter how much money you have…you will die one day…we all will. Then what? eternal bliss or worm food? I guess if I let my ego dominate myself it will prevent me from the former. You are deluded by Satan…he is the master of lies, doubt and confusion. And until you can answer the two questions I posed to you here and a couple of months ago…then it doesn’t matter what you think…it matters what you know.
June 4, 2007 at 5:18 pm
Blah, Blah, Blah…
The Rapture is not an exit strategy my friend, and I don’t think it is my job to disprove illogical, mythological, supernatural events. I think it would be the believer’s job to prove it didn’t happen
June 4, 2007 at 5:39 pm
“Did happen” is what I meant… Sorry about the typo. 🙂
June 4, 2007 at 5:42 pm
Oh, and why did you call me uneducated? That is just not true… I have an MBA in Business with an minor in philosophy thank you very much…
June 4, 2007 at 7:08 pm
I believe what he meant was uneducated about the things of God. Believers job…believe it or not, Ryan, we just did our job.
You’ve been told. You choose your own destiny.
And Padraig, very good reply. I liked the end…it doesn’t matter what you think, it matters what you know.
June 4, 2007 at 8:50 pm
Tell me fellas,
What is the difference between, God and Santa Claus? Prove to me that they are not exactly the same. You must admit that they have an aweful lot is common…
June 4, 2007 at 9:19 pm
Prove to you? No matter what was said you would rebel against it. It doesn’t matter what anyone says if your heart isn’t ready to receive it.
God and Santa have a lot in common?? What a comparison….wow…well, God is real, Santa is not.. Santa didn’t have a Son that hung a cross…Santa never parted the Red Sea, Santa can’t save your soul..need I go on to amuse you with what you consider myths??
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God” (Psalm 14:1)
June 5, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Tell me this… Theoretically of course…
If Scientists proved without a shadow of a doubt that our universe is one of many, and these universes interact with each other over time to create new universes. If you census all of the universes, a small percentage are capable of producing life because of the presence of water, Carbon etc., through natural processes in those universes. What would you think of this theory? What do you think that this kind of knowledge would do to your religion? (This is string theory by the way) If this scientific theory is true, Does Jesus get executed in every universe with life? Is there a different god for each universe? You see how I would be forced to reason that if god does exist, he is the beginning of the process, right? What if it is later shown true that the process has no beginning or end. It is endless, infinate and the perfect mechanism for efficently producing life. This is the road we are travelling sirs. Science is slowly deciphering the truth in front of our eyes. If you think a little beyond the bondage that is modern religion, then you will see that the fact that this is all random and still as beatifull and fulfilling as christianity. We are all stardust, created from massive explosions that formed the elements that exist in our universe. We are the universe becoming aware of itself…
June 5, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Who are you trying to convince? You or us?
I’m just like you. Your science/theories has nada influence on me.
One day, Ryan, you will know and there will be no speculation.
Star dust is a lot like ash isn’t it? You’ll feel right at home.
June 5, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Stardust is alot like you and me brother. We are all made of the same stuff. Molecules that were fused together millions of years ago all working together giving you and I the opportunity to have this deep philosophical conversation. Kind of cool I think.
June 5, 2007 at 9:48 pm
I find it much easier to believe that we were created by an intelligent being than that we exploded into existance. How goofy.
We’re a CREATION.
So, if a semi runs into a paint store and all the paint exploded we’d be inundated with works of art…all the paint would fall miraculously in place and form a painting. Gimme a break…
It there’s a creation of any kind, there’s a creation.
If you want to buy into the cosmos theory…you go right ahead. I can tell this is just a game to you.
I’m not playing.
June 5, 2007 at 9:49 pm
I meant, if there’s a creation of any kind, there’s a CREATOR.
Sorry……and good bye.
June 6, 2007 at 2:33 pm
Farwell my friend… I think that we have mabye taught each other something after all.
January 1, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Wow, that was intereting to read btw Kevin and Ryan. Anybody know when rapture will be or lead me to a site tp truly understand what is ahead for us all?
January 16, 2008 at 5:14 am
To Charles:
Type in “The Rapture” and Wikipedia will come up — you can read a quick synopsis of sorts about it there.
There is the “Left Behind” series on DVD which is a popular, fictional account. The first movie was successful and you might still find it at your local retailer. Also, Christian bookstores usually carry both the novels and the movies. You can Google “Left Behind” to find out who the authors are.
The History Channel has a DVD available called “Countdown to Armageddon” which also investigates and is non-fiction in nature. The timeline for the events were researched and put together (based on biblical passages) by an evangelist (John Nelson Darby) in the late nineteenth century.
Anyhow, no one knows for certain when the Rapture will be because it is dependent upon Christ’s return. And we (Christians) don’t know the exact day and hour of Christ’s return — this according to scripture in the Bible.
The premise (backed up with biblical scripture) of the Rapture is that Christ will return (year, day, and time unknown) and catch up all the believers who have passed away. They will rise up first with him. They are known as the “dead in Christ”. The ones alive on earth, who are also believers in Christ, will be caught up in the clouds with them. These folks will seemingly vanish and ascend with Christ and with the dead in Christ to heaven as well. And those who are “left behind” (unbelievers) will have to endure terrible things at the hands of the Anti-Christ, who will fool most of mankind into believing he is going to sovle all the world’s ills when he begins his rule. He will be revered among many, but about half way into his reign, things will turn very ugly. His seven year reign is known as the Tribulation. Christ will eventually return, put all evil down, and will reign on earth for a thousand years. That’s basically the gist of it, but there’s more detail in what I mentioned above.
I hope this has been helpful. If you are looking for spiritual guidance, may I suggest going to Billy Graham’s website. Please keep in mind The Rapture is generally embraced mostly by born-again protestants(which I am). God Bless.
May 17, 2009 at 3:28 am
I know the original post is rather old here. I was searching for info on Falwell’s supercilious comments on the rapture.
I always wonder why believers insist on referring to the Bible to prove their points to non-believers. Quoting the Bible to prove the existence of God is, to me, like using the Cinderella story to convince me that fairy godmothers can do magical things. I believe the Bible is a work of fiction. We can learn from fiction as we can from non-fiction, but we can’t use fiction to prove anything.
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August 6, 2012 at 6:56 pm
I wonder if any non-believers/God haters/athesist believe in witchcraft? I wonder if they passionately refute their “fairy tale” ideology? Hey guys…lets just remember I Corinthians 2:14 “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”