With the news that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Illinois) might consider a run for the Democratic presidential nomination, the ‘net is lighting up with speculation. Here’s an excerpt from an anonymous comment on Unfogged.com:
I have given prophesy before and I truly beleive that Obama will be the Beast who makes everyone else worship that other funky creature. He will give His power up to this other creature( S) This other creature could be all those Seven or Eight really wealthy people who like own the World and not want everyone’s heart and souls and now they are going to use Obama -his kindess and meekness his sincerity-to gain everyone’s trust. Beleive me Obama is prolly sincere about his intentions to some extant but He may come to power and realize how good that is to such an extant that he will sell US out-to the more powerful beast. Obama will be the bridge between the average Jo Schmo who just wants the world a better place to the Anti-Christ who will take these souls away. Scripture will be fulfilled. I promise you and if they ever trace me back to this URL I am doomed. Also because BArack comes from such a multi-cultural liberal background he may turn into a Muslim or something…and we will die by the sword as SCripture mandates, now these final thoughts are my own…
See the details here (via Unfogged). I sure hope they don’t trace me back to this URL and take my soul away, ’cause I prolly wanted to hang onto it for a little longer.
Armageddon Cocktail Hour 
December 11, 2006 at 3:13 pm
no doubt. frankly, this guy scares the hell out of me. I see death in his eyes.
November 13, 2022 at 3:14 pm
Yes, Obama’s Satan-in-Peson aka the Antichrist. Can we organize? Fight back? Or just take this sitting down.
December 12, 2006 at 3:03 am
Dude! What are you smoking? He’s just a clueless newbie. Hillary is just waiting for hime to trip up and then she’ll pounce like the vicious feline that she is.
November 13, 2022 at 3:23 pm
Very interesting thread becoz it goes back before Obama.
Now we’ve seen him in his works of Satan. We know he’s the Antichrist now. Very interesting to see posts from back in 2006.
December 24, 2006 at 4:16 pm
He is…I had a vision about him, before I even knew he existed..He is the antichrist.
November 13, 2022 at 3:24 pm
I posted back in 2020 last time here. But this thread covers before 2008 and after 2008. I’m posting back to the old posts of pre-2008. Join me in getting this thread back up and fighting the Antichrist like good Christians must and should have been doing already.
December 25, 2006 at 5:45 am
Dear Quay:
As a Christian who believes the New Testament you can be very sure that I ignore any declaration by a third party that “somebody” will be the antichrist. The New Testament states that he (the antichrist) will not become known until AFTER THE RAPTURE of the faithful Christians. The faithful Christians have not yet been raptured, so how do you purport such deceptive claims?
Jonah Immanu, Author- Alienated Planet Earth and the End that Will be Coming to Our World (ISBN: 1412050154; trafford.com/04-2823)
November 13, 2022 at 3:26 pm
Yes, Obama’s being revealed now as the Antichrist and Satan, after he’s done his destruction. The Bible was right. We had to endure the tribulations, vaccinations, the War before we finally got to be listened to. There’s no mistake with the Bible.
February 16, 2007 at 10:18 pm
mANY WILL FALL FROM THE FAITH BEFORE THE SON OF PERDITION IS REVEALED..SO DONT COUNT ON BEING BLASTED UP TO HEAVAN OF THATS THE CASE..SOME OF US CHRISTIAN JUST MIGHT FALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL AHAAHAHAHAAH
November 13, 2022 at 6:29 pm
Yes, Obama’s now on the brink of being revealed by us. We have to do it. Nobody else will budge. They lap up the Antichrist Obama’s false talk, so we’re the Chosen Ones that must move our rear ends.
February 17, 2007 at 3:11 pm
YOU will probably definitely fall since you’re so bent on ridiculing the blief system of several good christians.
Blasting up to heaven? How rude.
And then laugh about falling??
It is no laughing matter.
November 13, 2022 at 7:33 pm
You’re right that the Apocalypse and Revelation is no laughing matter. We now know for sure that Obama’s the Antichrist. But for fourteen long years (it’s even been fifteen years now since your post) we’ve not stood up to reveal him. Now is the signal to stand up. I’ve not been back to this forum since then. But it’s not too late and our chance to go to heaven is now. Don’t miss this chance. It’s great!
March 24, 2007 at 1:17 am
About a month ago I was at work and I was thinking about who Antichrist could be and suddenly Barack Obama came to mind. He’s a great candidate…no one really knows what he believes (his views are even more obscure than John Kerry’s…if that were possible!), he’s slick, he’s shiny and he tells everyone what they want to hear. Plus, where did he come from?! He is a political newbie but honestly think, but as much as he’s in the news now, you’d think he’s been in the limelight for years. Keep an eye on him.
November 13, 2022 at 7:36 pm
Wow! That’s a very prophetical post there, Andrew. Now we know Obama’s the Antichrist. The same day as his election was proclaimed, the lottery in his home state drew 666. Now is not the time to just look at Obama, but to reveal him as Lucifer and the Antichrist.
March 24, 2007 at 3:26 am
“Uh-oh…! (knnck… knnck!) That wudn’t a Marlboro!”
No, the African-American majority are trying to re-invent the minority democrat. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson were too radical and/or abrasive for the average Joe, so they are fielding someone that will appeal “across the board” to young, white democrats brain-washed by the liberal media, as well as mainstream “black America.” Obscure views? Heck, pick ANY democratic candidate as of late and try to get a clear answer out of any one of them on any subject. Shoot, if you asked what their favorite color is they’d probably answer, “Plaid.”
A newbie. Of course. As I said in post # 2 above, just wait until he gets in Hillary’s way; she’ll eat him alive.
C’mon… predicting the Anti-Christ? Stick to lottery numbers!
November 13, 2022 at 7:41 pm
DJ, your post is incredible to read after so many years.
If you wrote that post about Obama now, it would sound disrespectful to him. Obama’s now a semi-god or a god on par with Jupiter. But the naked emperor has no clothes. Where’s Obama’s birth certificate?
April 7, 2007 at 9:52 pm
Dude, read the bible. Think for yourself. Question authority. Realize that the inconsistancies and bullshit in the bible was someting written by man to explain the unexplainable. God is much more than what one primitive book makes HIM out to be. Don’t shit on a man who has a quasi (but stil not quite there) intelligent vision of the future. World peace is not apocalypse. Douchbags that oppose it and try to stop it at all measures are. You are no different than the blind terrorists that attacked us. You are blinded by your own beliefs that turn person against person… and I find it sad and pathetic. You and I will never understand HIM, and your so called “word of god” books would not contridict themselves if he actually wrote them. Jesus was a moral progressive that was made out to be too much by his followers and was killed because of their religious blindness. Heaven and Hell don’t exist. This is all you have. Don’t do good things just because you will be rewarded for doing so. Do them because they are RIGHT. And go out and have a ham sandwich or something. Enjoy life. Because for now, that’s all you got. Later. Keep it holy.
NAB
December 12, 2022 at 5:45 pm
If God came here now he’d smite Obama for being the Antichrist. Antichrist is a crime. He’d get ten years in a court of law for being the Antichrist (remember Wikipedia says the Antichrist is Satan-in-Person Himself). We should sue him NOW and not yesterday already.
April 7, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Dude, read the bible. Think for yourself. Question authority. Realize that the inconsistancies and bullshit in the bible was brought about by man to explain the unexplainable. God is much more than what one primitive book makes HIM out to be. Don’t shit on a man who has a quasi (but stil not quite there) intelligent and optimistic vision of the future. World peace is not apocalypse. Douchbags that oppose it and try to stop it at all measures are the ones who will threaten us all. You are no different than the blind terrorists that attacked us. You are blinded by your own beliefs that just so happen to turn person against person… and I find it sad and pathetic. You and I will never understand HIM, and your so called “word of god” books would not contridict themselves if he HIMSELF actually wrote them. Jesus was a moral progressive that was made out to be too much by his followers and was killed because of their religious blindness. Heaven and Hell don’t exist. This is all you have. Don’t do good things just because you will be rewarded for doing so. Do them because they are RIGHT. And go out and have a ham sandwich or something. Or a baked potato with the works. Enjoy life. Because for now, that’s all you got. Later. Keep it holy.
(by the way, I’m not Jewish, I grew up in a Evangalistical household.)
NAB
April 8, 2007 at 3:16 am
I think a bunch of people are attaching way too much importance to Obama. That BOY ain’t nuthin.
April 8, 2007 at 3:16 am
Yeah, you read it right.
May 31, 2007 at 6:51 am
How rediculous! The mere fact that you would hold that view validates the fact that you think he is too good to be true!
How pathetic is it that we accept death and destruction in the name of money and power if we think it is prophecy, but when someone comes along who actually seemes genuine, we can’t beleive it. Peace, compassion, understanding, bringing people together, are not the traits of an evil man. They are traits of christ. When christ returns, will you be so skeptical as to call HIM the antichrist. How about judging people on actual present day values? Do you think you are so stupid that you’re going to be tricked? Like bush tricked the whole country? Give yourself some credit, and if you have a hard time deciphering who is trustworthy or not in this world, first, start with yourself and your sins, then do us all a favor and stay away from the polls on 08!
April 29, 2010 at 2:00 am
he be dah bad dude.
June 1, 2007 at 8:39 am
Barack Obama doesn’t preach peace and understanding. He’s promoting the age-old tactics of class warfare to buy votes, just like every other Democrat. Instead of taking the war to people that want to kill us, he wants to turn the war on ourselves: rich vs. poor, just like in the old days when it was cool to like Marx. Government is for losers.
July 24, 2007 at 2:53 am
He does look like he could be the antichrist. Maybe he is. He talks a good talk.
July 24, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Well, we watch for all the signs. There was a Catholic mystic who foretold all the popes. According to his list, this is the last ‘good’ pope and after that we are going to go thru it. I’m also looking at Israel and wondering about the Al Aqsa mosque. Its a bigger picture than just saying that ‘so and so’ is the anti-Christ.
October 12, 2007 at 9:19 pm
THE QUESTION BUZZING THE NET IS; IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA THE ANTICHRIST?
THE ANSWER IS YES!
THE ANTICHRIST WALKS AMONGST US AS A BLACK/WHITE MAN
http://clifylq.livejournal.com/61909.html
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http://clifylq.livejournal.com/
December 12, 2022 at 4:14 pm
Yes, indeed, I agree.
November 29, 2007 at 12:27 am
Hi.I am a Christian. Obama is the antichrist. God revealed this to me while I was watching the Democratic convention speech that he gave in 2004. I took notice of his charisma and then heard that people were gravitated toward him for no apparent reason. I believe that was a clarification of just who he is.I have been publicly saying this on Christianity.com off and for 3 years, and have a topic there now in Eschatology..Who Are You Going To Vote For In 2008..and Why? People think that I am nuts, but I tell ya, if you aren’t saved and haven’t accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord..DO IT!! Obama’s the real deal.
April 26, 2010 at 10:52 am
Praise to Jesus,
Thank God for Glen Beck for without his show the world would still be blind. The end times are upon us as prophecized! Thank you Glen for your show and the truth you preach. For those that wish to SEE…
December 12, 2022 at 4:16 pm
We better do something about the Antichrist seeing it’s been fifteen years since your post. It’s time to rise now oh ye Warriors of the Apocalypse!
December 2, 2007 at 9:41 pm
i went to an obama speech once and the first thought that came to my mind is this guy has something strange about him. i shook his hand and felt a huge chill all over my body. he fits the antichrist profile perfectly. WATCH OUT FOR HIM!
December 12, 2022 at 4:24 pm
Why haven’t you people done anything? Do it now. Organize together all of us united as one!
December 2, 2007 at 9:45 pm
obama gives complaments to pretty much everybody just randomly. he tells everyone what they want to hear. hes done nothing but is loved by many many people. he claims to be a christian. but i dont trust him at all! im a christian. ive been hearing about the end everywere lately.
December 3, 2007 at 12:59 am
Until someone compiles convincing, or even just interesting, evidence there’s no reason to get all worked up about it… It’s a fun topic, but until someone presents a logical arguement it’s nothing more…
I have been combing through countless blogs, and I have yet to be halted by even one reasonable comment.
Here are the only points that have been made:
1. Obama’s name- I think anyone who is sensible would agree that this is just ridiculous
2. His cultural background- come on, their called differences, don’t be afraid of someone because their different
3. His quick rise to power- this happens all the time. Our past two Presidents were widely unknown outside of their respective states. Clinton, though Governor of Arkansas, was still a young up and coming politician. And George Bush held no prior office before being elected Governor of Texas.
4. Obama’s charisma- the man is a damn US politician, it’s to be expected that he is fake and energetic, telling people what they want to hear.
5. Someone mentioned a cold chill when they shook his hand- I get the same feeling when I shake my Pastor’s hand every Sunday and Wednesday.
6. People claim to get a strange vibe from him- so what? the fucker looks weird, other than that I’ve got nothin’
7. Lastly, everyone loves him for apparently no reason at all- this isn’t true, just look at the poll #’s… Also, it’s completely natural for people to be drawn to a figure just because others are… They may have no idea what he stands for, but because of the excitement around him they jump on the bandwagon
That’s all I have to say. Just, you know, be rational, shit… And if you really believe Obama is the anti-christ, and are not saved by divine grace, ask Jesus into your heart, don’t wait
December 12, 2022 at 4:30 pm
At the time in 2007, I agree there was no proof Obama’s the Antichrist. But look back these last fifteen years now, and see: he’s bankrupted the USA, his birth certificate is fake, the day of his election the lottery in his home state drew 666, the Mark of the Beast aka the Antichrist, the Antichrist is a homosexual like Obama, Obama’s a drug-addict…he’s a Chicago criminal like Al Capone but Capone was a not big criminal like Ovoma, Obama’s the “false man of peace” because as Nobel Prize winner, he failed and went off to kill half a million in the Arab Spring.
Anyone want Obama’s real name? I’ve got it.
December 3, 2007 at 2:46 am
Obama is HOT!!! I’m talkin’ downtown!!
December 12, 2022 at 4:33 pm
Obama’s the homosexual black Antichrist. First black POTUS and first black Antichrist. Twice first: two-in-one. He’s Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
December 5, 2007 at 3:38 am
I have a strong feeling Obama is The Anti-Christ. The first time i saw him was when I just woke up and the news was on, I immediatley sensed he was the Anti- Christ. The guy has the look of hate to him and impending evil- Just look at his eyes. He appears out of the midst of nowheres. There will be 7 years of fake peace, Itns not a real peace but part of the Anti-christ. When they claim peace– Believeth it not!!
December 12, 2022 at 4:34 pm
Rise up. This our time to stand up. We must fight the Antichrist. We must rule the world.
December 5, 2007 at 1:26 pm
He doesn’t have enough political clout to be the AC
December 12, 2022 at 5:08 pm
u were wrong
Obama’s got the clout
he’s the Antichrist
stand up and reveal him because he’s Satan
January 4, 2008 at 7:06 pm
We all need to understand that jesus will return soon the end times will come whether obama is the antichrist or not I wannna be ready to go I would not vote for him anyway If he wins it will be trouble for us americans
December 12, 2022 at 5:17 pm
Zach, look at how prophetic your post was. Incredible.
They voted for Obama the Antichrist.
It’s trouble for us Americans. Just as you said.
Obama’s ruined the world, man, and it’s our job to reveal him for what he is and do that to the whole wide world.
January 6, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I’ve been reading comments about obama practically all day. Everybody has a different idea. I think that he really could be the antichrist. but even if he is theres nothing we can do about it for now. the bible says he will rise to power anyways! I’ve checked the interent. Check some other polotitians. most of them say that they are the antichrist. but I dont know what to believe. we just have to wait and see.
December 12, 2022 at 5:19 pm
Obama’s the Antichrist.
January 8, 2008 at 8:17 pm
I think that most of you need to take English as a first language and learn to spell.
January 9, 2008 at 2:24 am
WRONG. The antichrist is obviously Britney Spears, who has revealed to me in a vision that after the rapture (which is the mass round-up and imprisonment of creepy, ridiculous holier-than-thou types with too much time on their hands), she will release her first albumn in years entitled “Antichrist Superstar”. Millions will buy this albumn and then despair, as it will be complete crap like her earlier work. Those who bought it will pray for mountains to fall on them, and there will be much gnashing of teeth. Also, the next vehicle I see with a bumper sticker which reads “IN CASE OF RAPTURE THIS CAR WILL BE UNOCCUPIED”, I will pull the driver out of his/her seat and proceed to open hand slap them to death. Then you can watch the Book of Revelation unfold from Heaven. Hey, maybe THAT’S the rapture…
January 9, 2008 at 2:31 am
Those ‘N’s in “album” were the work of the antichrist.
January 23, 2008 at 6:46 am
I had the same vision also, I am not kidding, years before. I told a few poeple about it.
January 25, 2008 at 9:01 pm
There is something I don’t like. If he is not the Anti-Christ than he is the “Anti-White” Don’t betray Americas founders by voting for this walking multiculteral nightmare!!!
January 25, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Hey you all — I don’t think Barack Obama is the anti-Christ. For one (and yes, I could be wrong)I think Hillary Clinton is going to get the nomination from her party, not Barack Obama. I say this because the Clintons are going to yank the rug out from underneath him — remember, they are professional politicians and are good at doing whatever it takes. But still, I think it is wise not to let down your guard. The anti-Christ is going to be far more evil than we have ever imagined. If he appears in our lifetimes, I just hope that my faith will save me as well as many others who believe.
A Sister In Christ.
January 27, 2008 at 12:43 am
The anit-christ will be loved by everybody nobody will think really that he is the anit-christ.
ALOT of people are thinking or suspecting that is this obama dude IS the anti-christ.
in the bible it says people WILL not suspect who the anti-christ is.
think about it.
there is a possibility about it but then again.
by the way i do not like obama something about him scares me but people WILL love the anti-christ few will know he is actually bad.
January 27, 2008 at 2:24 am
Barack Obama would not even be able to get Top Security Clearance for a federal job. He would not be able to work for NASA. He would not be able to work for Homeland Security. His ties to Radical Islam would eliminate him. Yet, he is being considered for President?!! Be very afraid should he become president. He talks like the little guy in Charlie Brown that talks nonsense, “Wa-wa-wa wa-wa wa-wa.” He is now speaking on TV and he has the multitude chanting like a typical cult following. He speaks of “change”. I believe him. He will bring change, but the horror of the change is not yet know. God bless America and the deceived and desperate Americans that are chanting “Yes we can, yes we can….”
January 27, 2008 at 2:26 am
correction: ….but the horror of the change is not yet known.
January 27, 2008 at 3:48 am
How come the people that post in sites like this are the most illiterate people and just spew things from their mouths without knowing what they are talking about?
I for one have read the Bible for myself and do know the traits and the things that the antichrist will have to do. One of those things is to deal with both Israel and the Arabs to get them to sign a seven year peace treaty which will be broken after 3 1/2 years which is when the antichrist will be revealed and the Great Tribulation will begin after God’s chosen will be taken up into heaven.
Who is better positioned to do this than Barrack Obama. Raised by Muslim fathers, lived in a muslim country and attended a muslim school. As President of the United States he would be trusted by the Israeli’s because of the bond between the U.S.A. and Israel. As a person with a muslim name and physical traits of the middle eastern muslims, he would be easily trusted by the Arabs. He has a questionable past even though he claims to be a Christian now.
Satan, Lucifer or the Devil, whichever name you chose to call him is not the horned red man with the pitchfork in his hand is a man made fallacy of what the he looks like. I’m sure spurred on by Satan himself to get the human race to not be able to recognize him when he enters into this world that he freely roams now. On the contrary, Satan, also the antichrist, will appear as a well groomed, trusted and charismatic person so that he can entrap people by thinking what he wants them to do is good. Good will appear bad and bad will appear to be good in the end times. Those times are at hand and if Barrack Obama isn’t the antichrist that will lead to the end of the world then he could very easily be a predecessor that will clear the way for the antichrist to come into power.
Antichrist will gain the trust of all the peoples of the world and many people will be drawn to him by his presentation of doing good things for them. He will build one world government with one world religion.
Again, I have read the Bible and know what it says but I will not sit here and profess to know for certain that Obama is the antichrist but I will tell you that alot of the things attributed to the antichrist are true of Obama. If you hold a blind eye to this you could be easily swept away if he is and if you are a true Christian, you would at least keep a very close eye on what Obama does if he indeed is elected President.
I’m not going to try to tell you not to vote for Obama because you have to vote for the person that you believe in. If Obama is the antichrist, then it is part of Gods plan and will come to pass no matter what any of us say or do.
I just hope you all know that the world as we know it has changed and I can only hope that those of you who do not have a relationship with Jesus Christ will take the time to get to know Jesus the way I do. Jesus can do far more abundantly for his believers than what they coulod ever dream of. God bless you all!
January 28, 2008 at 1:35 pm
This is sickening. Barack Obama is a good man and if you had half a brain (let alone a spiritual connection) you would recognize it. Ties to Islam? That is insane. Get a clue, Bigot.
January 29, 2008 at 3:42 am
This is really weird. I like politics, but I can’t stand this process and whenever I come across it on TV, I quickly move to the next channel. I have been hearing about Bill hurting Hillary. I truly think he is senile or something, because he never would have acted like this in the past–he’s too politically smart. So tonight, I hear it again about Bill. Then I think, ok, Hillary isn’t going to make it, and Obama is really gaining ground. I’ve always gotten the impression he is evil. I thought about him being the devil. Then I was like OMG, what if he’s the antichrist? So I immediately Googled “Barack Obama Antichrist.” I looked at a few sites…then I saw Armageddon Cocktail Hour LOL–how FUNNY! Heehee. This was the first site where I really read all the posts…and I’ve never heard this about Obama before, so to find out this is a big topic is so weird. You know I thought I was the only one who had thought of this. I’m never first. I’m so happy and scared at the same time. I still don’t know if I believe in God or if I don’t believe in God. Sometimes I do and I want to but then I don’t like believing in something that can’t be proven–something as big as God. So I don’t know if I believe in the antichrist. I just find it amazing there are so many people who feel the same way about Obama–and it’s a lot of “feeling something.” Don’t you think that in itself is weird? I want to thank numbers 27, 28, 29, 34, and 36 (first sentence) for making me laugh out loud. I REALLY needed that. I just had another thought. Woohoo, several in a row! What if Obama is making Bill act crazy? Pretty sneaky, Sis.
January 29, 2008 at 6:23 am
Tracy — I believe there is a God. Do you think all of this came together by random chance? Everything in nature is too perfect. The world, the stars, the heavens are miracles in and of themselves. The human body is perfect in its design.
Do you know which particular group of scientists consistantly tend to believe in a creator? It’s astronomers who study the Milky Way and beyond. Interesting, huh? And they were the ones coming up with the ‘Big Bang Theory’ and the like, but some force had to have moved those events into motion. That force is God — astronomers know it because they have studied it very closely and that’s the only conclusion most of them consistantly draw about the universe. A higher power had to have had a hand in creating it. Of course, the story of how everything was created is in the Holy Bible, beginning with the book of Genesis. As a Christian, I would suggest reading the Bible.
But there are forces of good and evil on earth, and God will put evil down forever and Jesus will reign on earth for a thousand years — that is the premise of the Apocalypse. I feel there is a lot of evil and turmoil in the world these days and I think it’s going to come to a head —but no one will know when this is going to happen — not even the Son of God, Jesus. Only God knows the year, the day, the hour, the minute. But there is a large movement, mainly amongst evangelicals, that declare there are signs which are pointing to the fact that the possibility of ‘The Rapture’ will soon be at hand. Once believers in Christ and the dead in Christ (those who have died, but were believers in life) have arisen with Him to the Kingdom of Heaven (known as being raptured), the ones left behind will have to deal with the horror of the anti-Christ and what he’ll dish out along with his minions. But rest assured, God won’t allow it to continue indefinitely. 7 years will be the time of Tribulation, and according to one time-line (there is some disagreement as to the order of which things will occur, but what it comes down to is what God will do), the real ugliness will begin once the anti-Christ has established himself, about three and a half years into his reign.
At any rate, I would encourage you to find out who Jesus Christ is, was, and who will forever be. Perhaps God has touched your heart, and His grace is upon you, that’s why you are asking these questions and are thinking about a tangible evil temporarily ruling the world. I don’t know who the anti-Christ is — if you are a believer in Christ, and believers are raptured first before the anti-Christ comes on the scene, the believers won’t have to worry about being subjected to the evil which will be rampant on earth.
It sounds to me like you are seeking to learn more about God. I urge you to read the Gospels in the New Testament — the books in the Bible: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John and find out about Christ, and how God loves you. God Bless.
January 29, 2008 at 8:47 pm
I’ve been feeling weird about Obama since last year then it got worst the beginning of this year. I just don’t like what he says. Well, can anyone tell me what he’s saying because I don’t understand him? There’s just something very weird about him and how he says things. I feel as if he is not being honest and truthful to the American people. Every time I hear his speeches I just feel weird. If he believes in God he needs to let us know, if he believes in Jesus Christ he needs to claim that he does, if he believes in Islam he needs to let the people know, if he believes in himself or satan he needs to let us know or if he doesn’t believe in religion at all he needs to let the people know. I’M JUST VERY PUZZLED ABOUT OBAMA and his political agenda. And this has nothing to do with race. May the peace and love of Jesus Christ be with you all.
January 29, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Noone can tell if Obama is the Anti-Christ at this time; however I have to admit that from the moment I laid eyes upon him , I felt this evilness.He always looks angry and he carries on with an air of racisicm. Something isn’t right about this man regardless if he’s the Anti-Christ or not. Because of the dark feelings I get when watching and hearing him I can’t and will not vote him into office. He seems to be quite deceptive.
January 30, 2008 at 4:13 am
Thanks AWaytoTruth. Yes, I very much want to learn about God. I’ve always struggled with this, because I wasn’t raised with religion–not for or against–so I’ve never understood God, Jesus, the Bible, etc. It seems foreign to me and when people talk about finding God, I wonder why I never did or never have…how do you do it? I realize you can’t treat it like a “do 1, 2 & 3, and you’ll become a believer” thing, but how do you “get” God. Church isn’t important to me, because I’ve seen for myself that just because someone goes to church, it doesn’t mean he/she is a good person or “of God.” I would, however, like to feel like I belong when I am in a church. Maybe not so much belong but feel comfortable. I don’t feel right when I’m in a church, because I don’t understand what everyone is “doing.” I feel like I’m being fake, pretending–just by being there–that I understand the purpose. I want to feel what others feel when they talk about God being there for them and helping them be happy and having faith. Do you know what the really strange thing is? I do believe–not completely but much stronger– there’s a devil and Hell. How or why is it easier to believe in the Devil than God? Why would I believe more that there may be an Antichrist rather than God? This kind of worries me-smile. I guess my belief system got out of whack somehow. At the same time, when bad things happen to me, I tell myself that God has a plan for me, and everything is happening for a reason. I know, though, that I’m just thinking this because I want it to be true. I don’t want to think that bad things happen to me, because I deserve them. I’m using God to make myself feel better, yet I don’t totally believe. That is so wrong, but I don’t know how to believe. I am also scared of dying. I’m getting older, and I feel I’m getting closer to death. I don’t want to be afraid and sad before I die. Sorry for all of the questions. I will definitely have to find some kind of “Cliff Notes” book to help me with the Bible, because I really want to understand what I’m reading and not what I think is being said. It seems complicated. I know I have problems–haha. The good thing is I’m not ashamed to admit it! Thanks, again. You made a very nice post for me. :-}
January 30, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Tracy:
You are right, just because one attends church doesn’t necessarily mean they are good people. I have found very nice, sincere folks in church, and have met a few who made me really wonder what they were doing there in the first place.
And I think faith grows out of your personal love for God and what Jesus did for you. It is my belief that God is trying to draw you to Him. My relationship with God did not happen over night. Maybe for some it does, I don’t know. But God does have a plan for you, whatever that may be and just know the basic thing is He has great love for you.
And for Christians, Christ is the only way to salvation. Good works are important and being a kind person to others is also not to be dismissed out of hand, but that’s not what will save you. Your belief in Christ will.
Christ died for our sins on the cross, He bears our burdens and He paid a huge debt for us with his own life — He made everything new again — we are born again in Him. As a Christian, there are several things required — you must truly believe in Christ and repent of sin, meaning you don’t keep repeating the same sin over and over again. Most would say you need to be baptised as well as a sign that you have accepted Christ as your savior. John the Baptist said, I baptise you with water, but He (Jesus) will baptise you with the Holy Spirit. At any rate, I think one knows when something they do is good, and when it’s not. The wonderful thing is that God forgives. God handed down the ten commandments — those are basically the laws he wants us to follow. You can also ask for fogiveness if you think you have wronged someone some way, and pray about it.
And I think you might be thinking more in terms of the devil and hell because our society focuses on movies and books surrounding things which are evil. And there is much discussion amongst Christians about The Rapture, though that is not to say it hasn’t been focused on in the past. You can also turn the television on and see how much evil is out there by watching the news and hearing about all the awful things that happen. And you will ask why do bad things happen to good people? Well, I believe men are given free will and God doesn’t control every thing we do. Years ago I fell and broke my leg in several places (and with all humility, I pray I am a good person in the eyes of God). I still have problems, but I don’t blame God for what happened to me. But I am a happy person because I know God never gives us more than we can handle.
I think it’s in God’s plan to deal with the anti–Christ. But I will say again, that we don’t know when this is going to happen. I think it’s when God will have no other choice to do a complete judgement here on earth for his ‘creations’, for many of them not following His will, but following their own, and committing a lot of sin. God’s children (those who believe in Christ) will not experience the evil the anti-Christ will hand out to the ones left behind. And it is also God’s plan for His beloved Son to reign here for a thousand years. Jesus dying on the cross was also in God’s great plan. Things didn’t happen by chance, everything was set into motion by God. I said man had free will, but God also has the power to move things when he so chooses.
Anyway, some folks attend church for reasons other than God — having social contacts, maybe acquiring a position in the church to feel important, or something like that. Generally, you will find people who are genuine about God, but there will be some who have their own agendas. I currently don’t attend church myself — I am in between churches right now and I am not even sure if going back to organized church is the route I want to take — I may start something in my own home for bible study and prayer time. You can still have a relationship with God without going to church — I found my relationship started out with prayer. And God doesn’t expect our prayers to be perfect — believe me, he will understand.
However, I will say I learned a good foundation about Christ and Christianity while I went to church. If you want to go to church I would suggest maybe visiting several different ones to help you decide if organized church is for you or not — and give you an idea of how friendly folks are. Most churches are very welcoming, but you should really get an idea of how comfortable you will be. And from personal experience, please don’t let anyone pressure you into joining right away. I would tell anyone to attend for about a year or two before making a decision. If the pastor asks you, you can politely thank him or her and say ‘I don’t feel I am ready to make that commitment yet — I need some more time’. You may just wish to attend a middle of the week service and get together for a bible study to start. Also, see how the church will treat a person who is new in their walk with Christ — meaning will they be encouraging and willing to help you understand, or will they expect you to already have a vast amount of knowledge and dismiss you and make you feel inferior somehow?
Anyway, please believe me, you are never alone. God is around us everywhere. That is not to say that you shouldn’t have relationships with other people and have friends. One should never be isolated. And many people are afraid of dying, but I think those of us who have accepted Christ have an easier time accepting the tranisition because we know that we don’t truly die, just our physical bodies, and that our real ‘home’ is in heaven with God.
Anyway, I would suggest you visit the Billy Graham website. Google it. That may be helpful — I pray you get the answers you need.
May God bless you, Tracy.
January 30, 2008 at 11:42 pm
AWaytoTruth–
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions and give me your thoughts and advice. I’m grateful for your special help.
January 31, 2008 at 12:44 am
You are welcomed, Tracy. I wish you the best!
February 5, 2008 at 10:43 pm
First off, the ‘rapture’ is something the church invented in the 1800’s. It was not a view held by any branch of the Christian Church prior to that time. So ‘rapture’ may never occur.
As for Obama-nation, What has he ever done other than be a great orator. A person needs to be something more than an orator for me to vote for him/her.
February 8, 2008 at 7:30 pm
I agree %100 with “The Jazz Man”. Thanks for the informative post!!
February 11, 2008 at 6:23 pm
I agree with you, people are not looking at this guys true identity…
he makes me uneasy and scared to death…
One of the main reasons he is getting votes is because… for one he makes these promises and the only thing he says is “change”…
I didn’t vote for this guy, and if I did…
GOD forgive me!
February 11, 2008 at 7:27 pm
To see you people arguing about ancient superstition and attempting to apply it to modern day politics is nothing short of awe inspiring stupidity. Barack Obama has not done one thing that would lead any rational person to believe he’s a bad person. Your obsession with the “end times” is a dilusion that has obviously warped your ability to make a sound assesment about a person and our lives. Your primitive beliefs will eventually fade away through the centuries as you and your children pass away with no christ to whisk you away to heaven. All religions of the world are to eventually be considered a minor hiccup in the intellectual growth of our species.
February 11, 2008 at 11:36 pm
The way people gravitate to and are voting for Barack simply because of his charisma and promises for change (while saying almost nothing of substance, something that others have tried and miserably failed) is scary. I’m not a typical Christian. However, unlike the 90% or so “antichrist” believers out there, I have actually spent a lot of time reading the prophecies this idea was built upon (lets remember that antichrist was never mentioned in the bible as a person, or even associated with “antichrist” prophecies, it’s an interpretation. Therefore, I hope to avoid much of the disgusting ignorance that results from really, MAKING CRAP UP from a book that was written thousands of years ago, and already degraded through translations and interpretations. 666 being an example of the ignorance abound. I could make anyone look like the “antichrist” by using any number of steps to associate them with the 3 digit number.
With that said, Barack is the only person I have strongly felt IS a serious figure related to bible prophecy. As I said, he is amazingly magnetic. Every obstacle put forth in his path has been abolished so far. At this point in the race, it almost seems as if he has the support of the secret powers higher than government (secret societies like illuminati). It was formerly thought such organizations would not allow him to succeed for his youth, race, and non allegiance to their order. However, it seems he may be just what they want, and may or may not be working with them. Barack has thoroughly defied expectations. All tough opposing candidates have been wiped out so thoroughly, it’s startling. Romney probably had the best chance as a republican (the closest one to being a conservative), but he was somehow compelled to just quite when he was doing very well. It makes little sense, and I suspect foul play/manipulation. Even Hillary, one thought to be inevitable, is being stomped on by none other than Barack Obama.
Further than his amazing stride, is the fact that he is black. It has often been said that because of his race, he would get assassinated if he ever comes into office. As said in Revelations 13, the beast/figure often associated with the antichrist is said to suffer a great wound, and then is miraculously healed and worshiped in awe of his recovery. I have begun to think that if Barack comes under an assassination attempt, and survives, he may fit into this prophecy perfectly.
” 1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”
February 12, 2008 at 4:37 am
I sure hope the rapture comes soon so we can get rid of all the “true christians”. That would be paradise on earth if you ask me. Maybe they could carry a muslim under each arm on their way to heaven.
EVERY RELIGION ON THIS PLANET IS A LIE. that includes christianity, hinduism, islam, and judaism. All ficticious stories written for the purpose of political domination and crowd control. Stop waiting to die for good things to happen to you.Try living your life without “a team”.
February 12, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I don’t know about anyone else, but my own belief in Christ gives me hope. Without hope, what else is there? And to me, for my own faith and beliefs, Christianity is not a lie — I live it everyday. And I have no intention of letting anyone take that away from me — through empty words or thoughtless actions.
February 13, 2008 at 3:57 am
Hmm, just wondering about 2nd verse…that the beast was like a leopard. A leopard is 2 colored isn’t it? Obama is 1/2 black and 1/2 white. I just finished watching his speech after winning Virginia, Maryland & D.C. I have been trying to not let myself get pulled in by his charisma but must admit feeling myself going that way tonight, even though truthfully something about him scares me, so did an internet search and wound up here, looking for answers. My college aged daughter is throughly entranced by him. She attended a rally of his recently, sat behind him as she has volunteered many hours. While sitting at his speech she and a friend both received simultaneous text messages on their cell phones saying “I am watching you” from an unknown caller who claimed to be in the stands across from them. It was an unknown number that rings constantly when they phone it. Anyway…..after reading all of this I am going to try to not let his charisma sway me.
February 13, 2008 at 5:42 am
Barack Obama’s Church http:www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html
If any white person belonged to a church that had in it’s creed “Pledge allegiance to all white leadership who enspouse and embrace the white value system” We’d be shot.
Quote from Barack Obama’s book written in 1995 before he had any designs on politics
“Dreams from My Father”
Pages 86
“Only Malcom X’s autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me; the blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. All other stuff, the talk of blue-eyed devils and apocalypse, was incidental to that program” …….
Pages 199-200
Nationalism provided the history, an unambiguous morality tale that was easily communicated and easily grasped. A steady attack on the white race, the constant recitation of black people’s brutal experience in this country, served as the ballast that could prevent the ideas of personal and communal responsibility from tipping into an ocean of despair. Yes, the nationalist would say, whites are responsible for your sorry state, not any inherent flaws in you. In fact whites are so heartless and devious we can no longer expect anything from them. The self loathing you feel, what keeps you drinking or thieving is planted by them. Rid them from your mind and find your true power liberated. Rise up, ye mighty race.
This process of displacement, this means of engaging in self criticism while removing ourselves from the object of criticism helped explain the much-admired success of the Nation of Islam in turning around the lives of drug addicts and criminals. But if it was especially suited to those at the bottom rungs of American life, it also spoke to all the continuing doubts of the lawyer who had tun hard for the gold ring yet still experienced the awkward silence when walking into the clubhouse; those young college students who warily measured the distance between them and life on Chicago’s mean streets, with the danger that distance implied; all black people who, it turned out shared with me a voice that whispered inside them- You don’t belong here.”
……..pages 200-201
“Desperate times called for desperate measures, and for many blacks times were chronically desperate. If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence”
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February 13, 2008 at 11:43 am
The World Moves Progressively toward Complete Evil –
In the end time, the world moves progressively toward COMPLETE evil. The entire world’s leadership will follow the beasts of Revelation 13. At the Sixth Plague the world is so completely evil that we see the Devil WITH the two beasts of Revelation 13 prior to the battle of Armegeddon (Re.6:12-16 below). The Devil will be manifested in the flesh as Gog.
Re.16:12 And the SIXTH angel poured out his vial upon the great river Eu-phra-tes; and the water thereof was dried up (Jer.51:36 below), that the way of the kings (Re.17:12-14) of the east might be PREPARED.
Re.16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon (Re.12:9, Re.20:2, Re.9:11), and out of the mouth of the beast (Re.13:1-8), and out of the mouth of the false prophet (Re.13:11-17).
Re.16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and the whole world, TO GATHER THEM TO THE BATTLE OF THAT GREAT DAY OF GOD ALMIGHTY (Re.19:19).
Re.16:16 And he (the Sixth Plague angel) GATHERED THEM TOGETHER INTO A PLACE (Jer.51:49) called in the Hebrew tongue Ar-ma-ged-don.
Patricia (ndbpsa ©) Bible Prophecy on the Web
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BibleProphecy
February 14, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Have you guys ever heard of charisma? It is powerful that is what you are sensing. I am a christian but I like to read history and there have been plenty of charismatic people in history who were not the anti-christ. Get a grip! This kind of talk makes christians look crazy and ignorant. Also, do some fact checking. He is not muslim. If you want to know what he stands for go to barackobama.com. Please folks don’t become paranoid, a man like this comes once in a generation. Yes, obviously I am an obama fan and, yet, a born again christian.
God bless,
your sister in christ
February 15, 2008 at 5:52 am
his proposed global poverty tax sounds like a compassionate thing, but essentially it’s a world tax. thisis seriously the tool that he will use to assume power and do evil.
February 15, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Is this the crackhead blog? What are you idiots talking about? You have a vision?
Dude, I see devils uh uh uh!!!!!
Get back to dope…..
February 16, 2008 at 12:56 am
IAmOut, that is one of the saddest things I’ve ever heard. Anyone on earth can experience visions, and they will be real, and they will prove true. Just because something isn’t palpable does not mean it’s not real. It’s something that you may never understand, but the human spirit is the single most powerful thing on the planet. Anyone can focus and channel their spirit into a place where earthly limitations no longer apply. I’ve seen it, and it’s beautiful. Don’t be so quick to judge, tear down the walls you’ve built up around yourself.
Anyways, there is overwhelming evidence that Barack is the antichrist, but I’m fine with that. The more evidence I compile, the more I think of how interesting the next 8 years will be. I don’t see any point in frightening people into believing what is, and will always be, the biggest allegation one can make, so if it’s true then let it be. If it’s not, then that’s fine too. We will find out in 8 years whether or not he actually is the antichrist. Just make the best of your life while you still can.
February 18, 2008 at 8:25 pm
People!! We are on the verge of the Greatest Introduction Of Evil ever known. And I as a Christian, a God fearing Women… believe that “Barak Obama” IS THE ANTI-CHRIST! HE will render in the End of Times as we ALL Know it! He fits the Bill PERFECTLY in more ways than One! I get a creepy feeling from this man. As one person put it…. The OBAMA_NATION. Wow! It’s just like God to be so Creative! That’s a Big clue right there! Barak Obama IS THE ABOMINATION THAT WILL CAUSE DESOLATION!! Furthermore… He is not a Christian. He is Anti-christian. He is Muslim. If he was a Christian why would he swear in as Senator on the Koran??? and not the Bible?? Hmmm?? Ever heard of discernment?? This is God’s way of foretelling his People of the impending doom to come! Hey Christians! What you are feeling about Barak is Correct! The Holy Spirit has given you the power to Discern that this “MAN” is more than just a Man… He is the Man… He is the “ONE” that will house Satan. We must Pray and hold fast to the “TRUTHS” we Know! Don’t let go… Don’t faint or grow weary! What does our Father say?? People Die for lack of (wisdom)… they (non-believers) are Blinded to the Truth! So be Blessed in knowing in your hearts that you know what’s real and what’s not. And don’t forget to try and win as many people over to the Kingdom as you can! The Time is Growing very short! Amen May God Bless and Keep you!
February 19, 2008 at 7:54 pm
I do not know if he is the Antichrist or not, but he scares me enough as a christian to stay far far away from him,
February 19, 2008 at 10:26 pm
When Obama finally came out to speak in Denver, they quieted the crowd and put on music… U2s City of Blinding Lights… first words, “The More You See the Less You Know”. How appropriate!
February 20, 2008 at 4:01 am
what’s worse, believing in a magical fairy creature that created the world and the heavens or hating somone solely because you’re an inbred, stupid moron who can’t understand anyone past the color of their skin?
it’s a trick question, the answer is both are terrible, and when combined you come up with fantasy stories about horsemen and the end of the world. The Bible is bullshit. you’re made up of atoms and particles. you were born to procreate. Obama is just a politcian whose speeches happen to be written by the “other” antichrist, JFK, a man who never won anything based off of his proposed policies. Think and create your own feelings and morals based on what you believe is right, not what some out of date fantasy book based off of a thousand year old con artist tells you your moral compass is.
if “satan” ever actually existed in the sense the Bible portrays him, he exsists in the heads of Bible thumping morons who don’t think for themselves, hailing one out of date text and believing it is good and pure…sounds to me like religion is the concoction of the Devil, in the best sense of it.
February 20, 2008 at 7:15 am
I can buy the proposition that Obama is the AC. Ive fallen away from chrisianity in recent years, and this guy’s running has whipped me back. People should be deathly afraid. Consider this no black man has ever even come close to winning the presidency——-ever. This guy has pretty much won at this point. The media wants him to win and he will—-trust. He is Muslim—–bad times ahead for christians. I have never seen someone rise to power so fast ——-ever. Its a perfect time for the ac to come to power and obama fits the bill to a tee…..imagine the most christian country on earth electing a muslim president….if that doesnt scare the hell out of you nothing will.
February 20, 2008 at 1:00 pm
To dedede — I don’t think Obama is the anti-Christ either. But one thing I do know about you from reading your post — you’re a judgemental, vulgar, and intolerant person yourself. Good luck to you.
February 21, 2008 at 1:41 am
I don’t know what to think. But, I will say my eyes are always open!
God Bless you all, weather you believe in god or not.
February 21, 2008 at 2:08 am
I will just say that this thought that Obama could be the antichrist came to me independently after I first him talk, so I googled it and lo and behold, I found this website. That in itself is pretty scary.
February 21, 2008 at 9:19 am
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February 21, 2008 at 10:55 pm
you guys are plum losing it. He is not a muslim. He was not sworn in on the Koran. Please get a grip people and do some fact checking.
February 22, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Ditto Bob1617!
The idea came to me spontaneously. I was probably driving down the road, surfing the Net, or watching TV when this idea permeated my conscience.
I talk to God every day through prayer and ask Him for guidance, to light the path. It is absolutely true that He answers prayer and I do not believe that this revelation is a coincidence!
I am not judging Obama in any way. One of my favorite quotes:
God Himself does not propose to judge a man until he is dead. So why should you?
Needless to say, there is a BIG difference between judging a man and listening to your “inner voice”. It could very well be Him gently whispering.
February 23, 2008 at 12:44 am
Those of you who have injected venom into this discussion, please try exercise a little civility. There is so much bickering and vile bloviating in the world it is starting to wear me down. Let’s get this discussion back on track without the mean-spirited comments attacking people’s belief systems.
Questions:
Those of you that have had visions, has this ever happened before? Has it turned out that the vision was true? Give us details about the B. Hussein Obama visions.
Doesn’t the Antichrist come from the old Roman empire? How then can B. Hussein Obama be him?
February 23, 2008 at 8:54 am
ah nicky. from evangelical to a non-believer. i believe Jesus was talking about you in Luke 8:5-15. which seed are you? you need to find him again before it is too late for your soul. 80 years on earth is nothing compared to the 15 billion years plus in a very undesireable place. the bible does not contradict either. a little study on your part would reveal the incredible connectiveness of the old and new testament. Christians are not nuts, we just have the truth that the rest of the world chooses not to hear for whatever reason.
February 23, 2008 at 9:05 am
also there are many antichrists talked about in the bible, but only one end times antichrist known biblically as the beast. two beasts are discussed in revelation. the european one and obama. obama (the second beast) is a wimp and a peace nut. he will pull the troops out of iraq. the terrorists will regroup and strike america hard. obama will cede all american power over to europe and it’s peace lover, the first beast (and the end times antichrist). obama will be best pals with this beast. the euro-dollar is the one currency in europe now. when obama is convinced by his european beast friend to convert to the new world dollar, he will. read revelation everyone. it is as clear as crystal. here we go. i will vote for obama just so i can hurry up and get to heaven and get to hang out at my fabulous log cabin, beside a beautiful mountain lake, with a canoe and Jesus fishing with me. we all know He can catch fish. i can’t.
February 23, 2008 at 9:32 am
Dear Wankerman:
Your comment: “There is so much bickering and vile bloviating in the world it is starting to wear me down”.
You must have strength, He will give you strength. Just ask.
The days to come may not be easy, in any event. He will give you courage. Just ask.
Focus your eyes on the Lord. The naysayers will become invisible. He will give you vision and light the Path. Just ask.
Ask Him to train your ears to listen, not to the vociferous ramblings of the ignorant, but to the calm peace that Faith brings.
It’s that simple – just ask!
Talk to God every day. Initiate the dialog. He DOES answer. It’s not an overpowering – bring you to your knees – event, like some false prophets might want you to believe. And I’ve NEVER heard voices in my head, nor have I “seen” visions. It’s not like that at all.
You don’t literally “hear” Him or “see” Him. You just, somehow, acquire a mental cognition of things then say to Him; “Wow! Thanks!”
God has never screamed in my ear, nor has He “appeared” in any physical manifestation. He tenderly nudges and whispers. You’ll be aware of his presence in your soul.
daprof
February 23, 2008 at 3:13 pm
“You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom”
“There will be great earthquakes and plagues and famines here and there; there will be fearful sights and great signs from Heaven.”
I’ve known since the “Super-Tuesday” it just makes too much sense. I don’t know who the first beast is, but Barack Obama is the second.
“See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass”
Receive no mark (implant) and hold fast to your faith. All that we need to survive we have been given.
The Lord is coming soon. Rejoice!
February 23, 2008 at 3:57 pm
I read, I prayed then I added…..the number of his name: Barack Hussein Obama = 18 Letters.
Divide 18 into three equal parts and each part is 6.
February 24, 2008 at 10:22 pm
I have been reading the posts of this site with great interest. To all of those seeking salvation thru Christ peace to you. To all of those seeking salvation thru other means peace to you. The question of the hour is BHO the antichrist? I ask you this what does your heart say?
First I would like to tell you who I am, I am a married 40 something white women, that does not subscribe to any particular religion. I call myself a Christian, yet I believe that all roads lead to God. I pray every day to God and do so with reverence in my thoughts and actions. I try to live my life as a good, decent, honest person. I believe that we are each an extension of God and should treat ourselves and each other as such. I have read my Bible cover to cover, I have read parts of the Koran, parts of the Torah and have studied many other texts and books on the subject of religion. I have studied the religions of the world Hinduism, Buddism, Daoism, Judaism, Isalm, and many others. They speak of one essential truth, we are created by God with the ability to chose a path to Him ( Why even the choice not to choose a path is part of the Heavenly Father’s design) I acknowledge that we are made of molecules and atoms, that we are the pure manisfestaions of energy, the energy created by God. This energy flows from God directly to us.
Now that you know who I am, I would like very much to share with you my experience. Several nights ago I had a dream, in this dream I am sitting at a pic-nic table in a field with the most beautiful flowers I have ever seen, colors that I cannot even describe. In the background a tree; so tall, broad and strong the likes of which can only be described as magnificant. While sitting there a light pure and bright came to me. In this light love existed complete and without expectation I recognized instantly God was with me. As I sat there basking in the glory and wonder of Him. He revealed to me that BHO is the anti-christ. I asked what am I to do with, He simply stated that I would know what to do and when to do it when the time came. Now before you all tell me that I am crazy (it is okay for you to feel that way, I sure did too at first). I sat up in bed, feeling quite certain that I had just had the experience of a lifetime. My husband asked me who I was talking with and I told him “I think I just had a conversation with God.” To which he replied, “that is what I thought.” He did not elaborate just fell back to sleep. I of course could not sleep anymore, I sought out my Bible and begin to read more carefully than ever before. Later that morning, my husband told me that he had heard my end of the conversation and that by what I was saying he knew that I was speaking with God. A few days latter at work, a new client came in and we began a conversation that just blew my mind not to mention made my knees want to buckle. She told me she was disturbed by a dream that she had had. In this dream God told her that BHO was the anti-christ, she asked the entity what to do with this information; she was told when the time is right she would know what to do. To my surprise I began to describe the place and the manner in which this conversation took place (see the above description)she literally exclaimed how in the world did I know that, I told her that I had had the same dream. We both knew at that moment something was afoot. You may take this post anyway you wish, you may think me crazy, you may think it is pure crap, whatever you wish. But in my heart of hearts God answered the question, before my heart or mind even knew to ask it. God Bless You All!
February 25, 2008 at 6:36 pm
There is absolutely no way to know who the Antichrist is until the appointed hour. Speculation is one thing. Obsession and false claims to know and foresee are a completely different animal. It’s important to pay attention to world events that can lead to the Antichrist and the one world government. But it’s pointless to place blame on anyone until the given time when the 7 year treaty with Israel is made and later broken.
Is the Antichrist alive today? Yes I believe he is. Is there any way to know who he is? No, not yet. But we can study who these characters are so we will understand what we are dealing with when the time comes for the Antichrist to be revealed and for the Tribulation and persecution of the Christians to begin.
Interesting that “Barack H Obama” gets 412,000 google hits when you include “antichrist” in the google search. By comparison, George W Bush gets 541,000 hits, Prince Charles gets 218,000 hits, and Osama Bin Laden gets 96,400 hits. There are another 13 or so antichrist candidates that get anywhere from 292 hits (Prince El Hassan Bin Talal of Jordan) to 118,000 hits (Saddam Hussein)
Here is my antichrist candidate list in order of the most google hits. Two candidates are now dead, but i included them anyways.
1. George W Bush (541,000)
2. Barack Hussein Obama (412,000)
3. Prince Charles (218,000)
4. Saddam Hussein (118,000)…Dead
5. Bill Clinton (99,000)
6. Osama Bin Laden (96,400)
7. Bill Gates (58,000)
8. Ronald Wilson Reagan (48,000)…Dead
9. King Juan Carlos of Spain (43,900)
10. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (39,000)
11. Vladimir Putin (34,300)
12. King Abdullah II bin al-Hussein of Jordan (33,700)
13. The Maitreya (27,300)
14. Javier Solana (17,300)
15. Sun Myung Moon (15,800)
16. Prince El Hassan Bin Talal of Jordan (292)
The Bible says that the antichrist will be from Assyria (Isaiah 10:12, 14:25). Assyria is refered to as the modern day Jordan of today. Take this information for what it’s worth. I’m not into naming names, but i think i have a fairly good idea who it is.
February 27, 2008 at 6:37 am
First things first…. Religion is fake. All religions are the same, the bibile is just some story that has been exaggerated over time. So what if obama is praying towards Mecca and claims to be a christain, hes showing that he’s diverse and that he is who he says he is. There is no such thing as a anti Christ. Its just another boogeyman. You guys make Christianity stupid! Since when do christians judge? You guys are nothing but clueless pathetic hypocrites. Did you guys ever think that obama is a good canidate for a president? Wouldn’t it be great to have someone who doesn’t have a husband or father that was previously a president? Out with the old in with the new. You guys just have your bibles too far up your asses. Get a life!
February 27, 2008 at 8:49 am
prophesy? This is false prophesy and I hope Jesus forgives you for misleading people about a good man. How easy is it for Satan to make a good man seem like he could be evil…. Are you some kind of nut or something or just another republican drone following the rest of the misguided sheep to the slaughter.. Jesus warns us about false prophets and since the internet has been created more and more crazzzy people have access to alot more people……You my friend need to take a close look into your soal and figure out what is wrong with you… Only a agent of evil will try to make a good person seem evil, I have seen no clue of Obama being evil at all…Not to say or compare Obama to Jesus or a prophet, but even Jesus was sead to be controled by demons by the evil men of that time…You my lost friend are in the same class as the evil jews that killed our lord Jesus. Obama is a good guy and to think he is the A.C becouse he is a good guy is NUTS!!! So I take it you will accuse all people that come in the name of change and peace evil or the antichrist? Someone needs to burn you at the steak you evil WITCH
February 27, 2008 at 8:54 am
One more thing….Even if he is the A.C sooo what, It would be about time!!!!!!!! That means we can be happy that the end time are here at last!!!!!!! RETURN OF JESUS!!!
February 27, 2008 at 5:58 pm
First of all, what’s the rush on the rapture guys? If Jesus is coming back then he’s coming back. Why do some people want so desperately to be plucked away from this life and sent into the next? I’m sure it’ll be great and all, what with eternal life, total enlightenment and everlasting peace, but damn, can’t we kick back a little first, maybe have a few more seasons in the sun. I’d like to meet Jesus too, but I guess I’m willing to wait a while–maybe live and learn in the world God created for us. Besides, let him take his time. He knows what he’s doing. We don’t need to usher him. He’ll know where to land. Personally, I wouldn’t mind postponing the end of days just a touch longer. Whether you’re a true believer or an agnostic, we can all agree, if god exists, he knows his own business and doesn’t need our constant chirping for the end of the world.
February 27, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Don’t be too sure there isn’t an anti -Christ on the horizon. No one knows that for certain. And for all of those who think they know it all and have come here behaving like nasty little pieces of work (and I think you know who you are)well, if I were you, I think I’d be getting my spiritual house in order, you know, just in case, because you really and truly need to work on it!
February 27, 2008 at 6:15 pm
And don’t be too sure there isn’t an evil cheese sandwich with giant bat wings on the horizon. He might be there, ready to fly out of his evil cheese sandwich with bat wings cave, and swoop down on us all covering us in demonic processed cheese! And to you unbelievers I say you can’t prove that this giant cheese sandwich with giant bat wings isn’t coming to vex and doom us all! Go ahead, try and prove he isn’t coming! For I have read about the sandwich. In a book. And others have read this book, too, therefore it is absolutely true! But fear not, a giant jar of relish will come to save us all!
February 27, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Muhahaha!
February 27, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Hey, Pete, you know what? I’d rather behave nicely and be kind to people and walk more like Christ (and people aren’t perfect, we’re all flawed). If the bible should be wrong in alot of respects afterall, then I will have lost nothing — I was just a person trying to live right while here on earth. But if why Jesus came here as our salvation is really the truth, well, then, I’ll be glad I wasn’t sitting on the wrong side of the fence.
February 27, 2008 at 7:38 pm
AWay: I don’t doubt that you’re a good person or that you live by Christ’s teachings. I consider myself a good person who tries to live by Christ’s teachings, even if I do not necessarily consider Christ to be god. I think everyone should turn the other cheek and do unto others, protect the sick and poor, and live moral lives. I just don’t think reading the bible as a map to the rapture is a healthy use of time. If Jesus is coming back, just based on his track record, I believe he will be merciful to all those who have shown mercy, will forgive those who have shown forgiveness, and will not condemn to eternal suffering those who did so without calling themselves Christians. I don’t think an all-knowing, perfect god would care that an imperfect mortal man who led a good life did so without calling himself a “Christian.” In any case, all this talk about the Antichrist seems creepy to me. It seems like some people are almost in love with the idea of the end–they are enraptured by the idea of the rapture. If it’s coming, then it’s coming. Why hope for it? The idea that some people are waiting for the Antichrist to come so the world will end is bizarre to me. And why would Jesus, as an all-knowing, all powerful, merciful god do anything but save all just people upon his return? Why would he be so offended and enraged (Which would be very unlike Jesus) by any mere mortal who lived a good life, but simply didn’t worship him? ZDoes he ask that we worship him? If he is god, then I think he’s much larger than than needing that.
February 28, 2008 at 3:29 am
Re: Pete’s Reply
Jesus is not coming back for EVERYONE including some people who THINK they are living “right”.
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’” Matthew 7:21-23
If you love GOD and know how MAGNIFICENT HE IS, you should desire to worship and praise HIM. Click here—————–> http://www.rationalchristianity.net/worship.html
February 28, 2008 at 5:28 am
I won’t say this man is or isn’t the anti-Christ, but who are we to judge anyone without basis? Now honestly I don’t have a good feeling about this man ~PERSONAL OPINION~ but who really knows for sure though, right? To claim you know something based on no facts only proves ignorance, which is the problem that has been plaguing our world since the beginning of time. We should focus more on stopping our ignorance about others, not on some myth that people have been spreading about one man based on stereotypical beliefs. When we pass judgement without knowledge we spread misguided fear. Fear leads to anger, anger turns to hate, hate will go hand in hand with violence, and violence only begets more violence. Remember that human nature is to fear what we do not understand, and no human being can completely understand or interpret what or when the end of time will be or who the Anti-Christ is. **** IF this man truly is the anti-christ, then know what kind of person you are and stand by what you believe in. This is the most important thing, and the only thing that will matter in the end (whenever it may come). ****
February 29, 2008 at 12:40 am
I am not a crazy person….some of these people on here are a little over the top.. and are really into it. I will say this…that several weeks ago i watched this man on TV, and really wondered was so “special” about him and why people are so mesmerized. I got an overwhelming sense that this man is the anti-christ. I am by no means a bible beater..I dont even go to church. I AM a christian though…and I know who my lord and savior is. Lets all think for a second why we all came here to this forum…was it because something came over you …like me…a weird inner tuition? Since i NEVER think about stuff like this…when i got this feeling i obviously sat up and took notice..lets face it..it is indeed a concerning, scary issue. We all have something in common here…most of us got a “feeling” we have never experienced. A kind of “knowing”. Some have even claimed of visions and dreams. It’s hard to decipher people whom are serious about what they say here, and the real bullshitters, but i do want to share a thought. I think that if you are a believer…that god will sort of give his people a subtle “heads up”. You know, that “feeling or “knowing” that drew us to look this topic up, and ultimately come here to express ourselves. I am not saying we are right, but how i feel inside doesnt necessarily make me or anyone here wrong either. It just kind of makes you think of the big picture in that most of us had similiar experiences in how we feel about this guy. Kinda makes you think a little doesn’t it? I guess we will see. I am NOT voting for this man. He is a con, but if he really is the AC…it wont matter anyway now will it. People…follow your heart…your true inner instinct on this one. The time may or may not be near….either way lets be ready to defend our salvation, and be soldiers of god.
February 29, 2008 at 11:57 pm
I voted for Obama today. Go me! 🙂
March 1, 2008 at 4:13 pm
There will be an Antichrist.Some of you say it isn’t Obama. Don’t be fooled if it is him some of you will never see it till it is too late and you are standing in line to take the mark of the beast in your hand or forehead.He will come to power there is nothing anyone can do about it. The end of days WILL come. Watch for the signs. Die before you take the mark of the beast.
March 1, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Did I sound radical in my last post? Well how radical is it to give up your soul and burn in hell forever. That is what you will be faced with if you are left behind after he rapture and you want food to eat or gas for your car. The bible says that you wont be able to buy or sell without he mark of the beast. Wow to the people that are left after the rapture. It Will happen. Get saved and trust Jesus as your lord and Saviour.
March 1, 2008 at 10:21 pm
To those of you interested I have had 2 more dreams. I would like to share them with you, if I may? If you are not interested in them simply skip it.
Oh by the way I am not sure if the person was speaking about/to me when he asked have I ever had this happen before, the answer is yes, I have my whole life. Do I normally share this with others outside of my family no. I found out very early on that most people when they find out about my dreams think that a trip to the funny farm is in order. (And just so you know I don’t know the numbers to the lottery it does’nt work that way.)To the person accusing me of witch craft. Srong words for one so weak minded!
My second dream began when I was sitting outside the sky was dark but yet I am not sure if was night-time. I looked up and seen an unknown hand scooping/placing spirals into the sky. These spirals were different sizes, differnt colors, no lights just brilliant in color. As I sat there my heart leapt in my chest, yet I was not fearful, I could not speak felt no need to run. I stood there in awe. I knew, in my heart that I was looking at the sprial of life that represents change. Then I woke up knowing this was related to the first dream.
The third dream was far more bizarre, I was at my high school, from which I graduated 25 years ago. I was there with friends and family(the folks gathered there with me were folks I had’nt seen in years, some that I’d never met, some I barely knew), we were waiting on more people to arrive, there was someone watching the door. The person at the door yelled that there was a storm approaching we went to the front of the school noticing that the storm had seven funnel clouds all writhing in different directions and swirling around licking the ground like flames consuming a branch. The folks we were waiting for turned up the road to the school with the storm on their heels, they got out of the van and ran to the door that I was standing at. As I opened the door and they raced inside; just as they did I was swept out of the door with it slamming closed behind me. I stood outside of the school and now faced the seven funnels of this horrifying storm. As I backed up I could those inside yelling at me, but they could not open the doors. I cried to God to help me and as I did the seven funnel clouds that were going in different directions all began to face me and as they did I seen the faces of beasts. I cannot describe what they looked like but I do remember feeling terrified at what I saw. The funnel clouds began to engulf me they felt my terror, yet my legs would not move. The beasts snapped at me; just as I felt myself began to be consumed by the fire in their eyes, I screamed at the storm “I am a child of God and you cannot touch me, God will not allow it.” The seven funnel clouds dissolved into clear skies.
I am not sure what the dreams mean, but I will tell you this much BHO is the AC it will be revealed whether or not he is elected president or not.
Peace be to you all!
March 2, 2008 at 4:10 am
Rob (message 78)
Your approach to this topic is very creative and I commend your resourcefulness. I will use the Google numbers you posted to point out that, although the number of hits for each individual are similar, their years of experience in high public office are not.
1. George W Bush (541,000)
President: 7yrs
2. Barack Hussein Obama (412,000)
U. S. Senate: 4yrs
3. Prince Charles (218,000)
The Prince of Wales: 30 yrs
4. Saddam Hussein (118,000)…Dead
President Iraq: 24yrs
5. Bill Clinton (99,000)
President: 8yrs
dateach
March 2, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Unlike my spouse up in post 2, I’m not ruling him out. Put together with other prophecies about the last pope, etc. etc. it is certainly plausible.
March 4, 2008 at 4:27 am
For all of the Christians who believe in “The Rapture”: I have read the Bible multiple times and I have read the New Testament book of Revelation. I have yet to find any reference to this rapture or any indication that all Christians are not subject to the trials of tribulation. Also, any of you who believe that divining the future is not a sin I suggest that you re-read your scripture. As far as Barack Hussein Obama is concerned, I believe that he is the most Christian candidate we have had for a while, he believes in HELPING the sick and PROVIDING for the needy. One more thing ask yourself this: Does God help those who help THEMSELVES…..NO. Would you give to a thief or shelter a murderer….Well JESUS WOULD WITHOUT QUESTION OR HESITATION. We are all Gods children capable of salvation. As you drive your cars and attain your material happiness think about what really matters. Peace to all.
March 4, 2008 at 5:12 am
Dear Christobal Montana:
The following are some bible verses about the Rapture:
1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. (NIV)
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. (NIV)
Matthew 24:38-44
38 “For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,
39 “and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
40 “Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.
41 “Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
42 “Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.
43 “But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.
44 “Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Revelation 11:12 (New King James Version)
12 And they[a] heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them.
March 5, 2008 at 12:59 pm
People have officially gone mad.
March 6, 2008 at 1:04 am
Dear Rapture Ready: I apologize yet it is very hard for me to view these verses as PROOF that Christians will not be forced to endure tribulation. As far as I can tell these verses speak of those whose faith will carry them through tribulation to salvation. When the final battle is waged we will ascend, unfortunately the lord will not spare us tribulation. If you do some simple research you will find that the idea of a “Rapture” was created in Scotland around 1830. I follow the word as it is since God has kept it intact, not the lousy interpretations of some Scottish pasture. Peace and Love
March 6, 2008 at 3:16 am
Dear Christobal Montana:
All I have to go on is the scriptures that I pointed out. I will say this……….if there is no Rapture, I am not worried because GOD will take care of his elect. We will be safe in heaven one day whether it’s during the Tribulation or after.
March 6, 2008 at 7:18 am
I don’t know if Senator Obama is the AC but I know one thing he is the one American President the world will embrace. He is already loved in Europe, Asia, Africa and the Middle East. If anyone can make peace in Israel and Palestine, he can and will. He is truly exceptional in many ways and I admit, he is setting a new standard in politics and in world events. He will be a friend to the UN and they will embrace him, what a contrast to President Bush. I will admit, he does give me a strange feeling and I do not quite trust him.
March 6, 2008 at 10:57 am
Jesus H. Christ, you’re all mad.
March 6, 2008 at 5:53 pm
First off I’m only 17 so with my short life span so far these are the conclusion i have come to. Secondly I am an atheist and do not believe in god, but I am sort of a religious historian as is one of my best friends he is also a Christian. Many a time we have had heated debates on religion so I have learned a thing or two.
To start things off the anti-christ is supposed to originate from the middle east. Obama comes from Hawaii. His father comes from Ethiopia not the middle east. Also the anti-christ will be a great leader and speaker who will be loved by the people and will be elected to lead those people. He will then bring seven years of peace to the world. After seven years destroy the world.And it never say “anti-christ” in the bible it only says the “beast”. And I fully agree with Nick when he says “Realize that the inconsistancies and bullshit in the bible was brought about by man to explain the unexplainable” as well as most everything else he says. If you think Obama Is the anti-christ thats really sad. Because if any of you like WWII enough to delve into the history of both sides you would know that Hitler was also call the anti-christ. He fit the criteria far better than Obama ever could and the fact that Hitler didnt bring peace before he started the war proves he isnt the anti-christ. There is such a thing as sincerity in the world still. Not everyone is putting on an act for the public. Christians and Catholics cant say any thing because their pope was a Nazi and there is no way to atone for that. And those of you who keep saying “god showed me this god told me that” should probably start taking medicine or get back on your meds. All you people who dont like him if you look deep down you are probably just mad because he is part black and has a good chance a being president or are really just religiously intolerant if he happens to be muslim.
March 6, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Last week I dreamed many – somewhat fractured and jumpy – dreams. Among them was the idea that Romney was considering getting back into the GOP race. The first theme was an assassination and these two phrases: “Tell the people.” and “President Huckabee”.
The last theme was an explanation of who the antichrist is. Then I saw it was Obama. He looked at me and said, “Since you know, You know what I must do.”
But, although Romney’s son announced that Mitt did consider re-entering the race, I feel very suspicious about the origin of this message.
The fractious nature of the dreams is a big question mark.
Huckabee is out of the race. Unless he comes back as veep, I will say these ideas are deceptions from the enemy.
It is good for us to come together and check what we are seeing – “For we know in part and prophecy in part.”
March 7, 2008 at 4:06 am
To those of you interested I have had a fourth dream. To those of you not interested please skip it, you would not try to understand it anyway.
I am in a room a very large room it looks to be some sort of theatre or stadium. The surrounding walls are very high, and the floor/field and the seats are filled to capacity. Everyone there is very focused on some sort of stage or large screen I am not sure which because I cannot see over the heads of the other people. I hear words but I cannot make out what is being said. I see only the the lights above shining down at the stage/large screen. The lights are bright but where I stand, which is at the back of the crowd, it is quite dark. As I began to look around to see if anyone else is not paying attention, someone grabs me by the neck and begins to squeeze. I feel myself trying to break the hold yet I cannot. As I am being choked I am pulled further into darkness, the hand that holds my neck is like steel. I continue to struggle but I cannot break free. Just as I am about to slip into the unknown, I focus on who has me by the neck, it is BHO. His eyes are like fire and his hand on my neck like ice. I do not know from this point what happens.
The next morning I wake up and immediately my husband asks me who was choking me in my dream(s). I asked what made him think I was being choked. He said that I woke him up making some very strange gurgling noises, and, that I was obviously struggling to get my breath, at first he thought this was an asthma attack as I am an asthmatic, but when he became fully awake and turned on the light it was quite obvious that this was no asthma attack, I did not respond to the light being turned on, I did not respond to him calling my name, and I was gripping the covers so tight he could not get them loose. He said he touched my hair and I jerked away from the touch as if were fire. He then placed his hand to my right shoulder area and I grabbed his hand and nearly broke his fingers, he said I continued to struggle for air for a few more minutes and then my gripped relaxed and my breathing normalized. I continued to do this the rest of the night. Each time he tried to wake me but he got no response. The other incidents were not as bad as the one that woke him up. I told my husband that it was BHO choking me.
I cannot, nor do I wish to, make anyone here believe me about these dreams. I do not need or seek your opinion of, intrepretation of, or your view on these things that I have posted here. I simply feel lead to share with you what my dreams have been these last few weeks.
To those that would insinuate that I am some sort of bigot. I would tell you this; just because I have been given an insight to something that you cannot understand, let alone, care to discuss in an adult manner, does not make me a bigot. You would rather call me names and speculate about my grip on reality. Your attacks do not detract from the validity or the content of the dreams, or from the fact that God is God and he can and does use all things for His glory whether we recognize it or not.
I only ask that you prepare yourselves for whatever comes. NO matter the form in which it arrives; the the end of days, as we know it, is upon us, and BHO is the catalyst that will fulfill these things, thereby marking him as the AC. Whether it comes in the form of the Mayans with their 2012 calender, or the Tibetan monks with their remote viewing predictions of aliens stopping world wide destruction, or the prophesies of the Hopi Indian Nation, or the Biblical account of Armageddon in Revelations, or any of the other hundred or so predictions of the end times. The truth is most all cultures past and present have a creation story. If you have a creation, then for balance sake, you must have a destruction one also.
Science recognizes, as fact, that the world has in the past been destroyed/changed in someway from the forces of nature, why should it not be so in our future? Why not at this time?
On a personal note to DStanley, I mean no disrespect, but what makes you think you are an atheist? I will be praying for you.
Peace be to all.
March 7, 2008 at 5:48 pm
JC Im an atheist because i believe in no high power. I believe that a man(or woman) has only what the make for themselves. Im not disrespecting anybody you says they have had contact with god in some way all i am saying is that i am skeptical. I know people have premonitions but hearing from god directly? It has been said that mortals who hear the voice of god die because his voice is to much for mortal ears. Thats why the angels have brought his word down from heaven to man. Also look at the some of the people who have claimed to have hear the word of god. Many of them have been crazy and killed people on the supposed word of god. On a different note if Obama is the anti-christ you think he would be liked by more people and would be almost a sure thing for president. You would think that if god existed he would give some sign to beware Obama.
March 7, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Dear DStanley,
I asked you what makes you think you are an atheist, not what you believe, they are two seperate subjects. What one thinks does not necessarily reflect one what one believes. As Rene Descartes once said, “Cogito, ergo sum” translated, “I think, therefore I am”, not “I beleive therefore I am”. Do you understand what I am saying?
You state, “It has been said that mortals who hear the voice of God die because his voice is to much for mortal ears.” Your interpretation is that is why angels bring His word to man, but I must, with respect disagree, He chooses to communicate in the manner in which the recipient can best assimalate the information. While I do not assume/pretend to understand all of God’s ways I do know that, “with God all things are possible”. He can use whatever resources he wants to communicate whatever he wants at anytime.
As to your statement,”On a different note if Obama is the anti-christ you think he would be liked by more people and would be almost a sure thing for president”. I said, “whether or not he is elected president BHO will be revealed to be the AC”. It is your assumption that BHO will need to be president to fulfill this, it is not so. BHO is who he is.
As for God giving us a sign, they are all around us, here for example on this forum, yet you choose not to think therefore you are unable to believe.
Peace be to you all.
March 10, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Amos 3:7 (New International Version)
7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing
without revealing his plan
to his servants the prophets.
March 11, 2008 at 8:58 pm
alright everybody I am only 17 years old and I am the friend that D. Stanley was talking about. I am actually studying to become a youth/ worship pastor, so I do know a little bit about the bible. Now as far as where I stand on this subject Obama is just normal democrat, just like every other democrat that has ever lived. You might as well be saying that John McCain is the anti-christ because that makes just about as much sense. I know at least one person will say that John McCain can’t be the anti-christ because he is republican, well in the bible it says many times that satan is the master of deceit and if you believe anything in the bible than the anti-christ would also be deceitful and could come to power as a republican. Secondly I believe this was already mentioned but the anti-christ is going to come out of the middle east. Not his father, he is supposed to come out of the middle east. He was born in Hawaii and even if he was from Ethiopia that is not part of the middle east. the middle east is egypt and and over, Ethiopia is not part of the middle east. If any of you know anything about geography than you would know that. I am with Rapture Ready with this one because god would show is servants something this important through his living day prophets. So if any of you want to try to prove to me with scripture that he really is the anti-christ then email me at the following address
jesselucas90@gmail.com
thanks to everyone for taking the time read this and please if you have any statements and questions for than email me
March 12, 2008 at 2:21 am
To those of you who are interested I have had another dream, those not interested; you know what to do.
In this dream I am in some sort of setting/place where people are eating/gathering. There are many people here, the mood of the room is happy and peaceful. Two people from the high school I went to are there, they are lighting a cigarette each. I approach them and ask them to please step outside (I do recognize each by name; but for the purpose of protecting thier identities I will not share it here)as they comply with my request they open the door to exit; a gust of wind comes wildly into the midst of the room. They shut the door behind them, and someone calls my name asking me to come quickly. I round the corner and there before me stands a very tall black man; he is thin and tired looking. I ask “how may I help you” he simply states, “he has a message for me.” But as he is standing there before me I feel a compasssion for this man, overwhelming to the point of I can almost feel his exhaustion/pain. I tell him “that the message can wait would he like something to eat?” He says “he would like that very much and could I please also feed his grandson?” He points to a small child behind me, that I had not noticed when I came around the corner, as I turn to the child he is crying silently pitifully. I turn to the man and tell him that yes we would be honored to do so. Someone goes to get the food. I then turn to the child who has now looked up at me and his soft brown eyes speak to my heart. I stoop to pick the child up, and, as I do he jumps into my arms and as I stand up the child grabs my neck and whispers into my ear “now I can kill you with your compassion.” I am startled awake by the phone ringing, it is my husband calling to check on me. My husband states that he had a feeling of urgency that he should call me. He told me he felt as if I were having a dream and that I needed to be woke up. I told him that indeed I was having “one of those” dreams.
I am not sure what is means but I do know that it is related to the other four, as I knealt in prayer that morning thanking God for the day ahead. He spoke to my spirit, not to my heart as the heart can be ruled by the emotions/brain, He spoke to my inner child telling me to stay the course and to share the dream(s), “for it is indeed a part of His plan.”
I know many of you are finding if difficult, if not impossible, to believe me and I do understand your
hesitation/skeptism.
I have recently spoke with several ministers, with whom I am familiar; and a few others who have knowledge of God and His wonders, about the dreams listed above they have all been quite helpful in interpretating the dreams, and have helped me understand why God has set this task to me.
I am grateful for the opportunity to share this message with all who would listen with their spirits, for this is where God is truly working with each of us. One to one every day whether we know/acknowledge it or not.
J. Lucus may I ask why you do not capitalize the word Bible or God? I find it curious that you did not do that. I know your shift keys are working as evidence in the other words you did choose to capitalize. I mean no offense by this question, perhaps this was merely an oversight on your part.
Peace be to you all!
March 13, 2008 at 1:41 am
That was an accident. I didn’t realized I didn’t capitolized them untill you mentioned it. Thank you though.
March 14, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Your welcome.
March 15, 2008 at 1:43 pm
alright I was just reading up through some of the previous comments and I would like to say a few things. First of all I have got to disagree with my friend here on a few minor points, it’s nothing big just small details. D. Stanley in the Bible it doesn’t say that if you hear the voice of God you will die. People hear the voice of God all the time. One example in the Bible is when moses talks to God through the burning bush. Pretty much what happens is Moses stumbles finds this burning bush and God speaks to him through the bush. Before this bush was on fire it was dead and during the fire it grew and became healthy. That is just one example where god has directly spoken to someone, and Moses was only mortal, he wasn’t any better than anyone else. He still sinned, he still struggled with stuff. The Bible was written because people would hear from God and have it written down. I think you are getting confused on a minor detail.
(Exodus 33:19-20 The Message) And the LORD said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the LORD, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”
This is a short passage where moses is talking to God and he pretty much asks to see God and God said no because it would kill him. Secondly it you cannot honestly say that it never says anti-christ in the Bible. I’m positive that you have never read the Bible, if you had you would see that it does say anti-christ. I would give you some verses to look at to prove what I’m saying but you would just say that it doesn’t use anti-christ in the original text. Well neither one of us has ever read the original text in Hebrew, but what I have read is just a translation of that.
I also noticed that you said “Christians and Catholics cant say any thing because their pope was a Nazi and there is no way to atone for that.” Well firstly Christians don’t follow the pope, only Catholics do. Also you said there is no way to atone for that, well in God’s eyes every sin is equal. In this a man who decides to steal a 10 cent piece of bubble gum is just as guilty and is no better than a man who is a serial killer. Also there is a way to atone for that, because it isn’t the people who were Nazis it was the pope. So they have nothing to atone for. Even if the pope decided to change his ways he would need only three words and God would forgive everything he’s ever done. “Please forgive me.” That’s all he would need to say and God has not only forgiven everything that he has done, but has completely forgotten about it. There is a story in the Bible where king David was at war with another country and being the kind he stayed back at his palace and while on his roof he saw a women bathing outside naked. As soon as he saw this he sent for her to come to his house and he slept with her knowing full well that she was married. Well her husband was fighting in Davids army and she called of king David to tell him she is pregnant from him. So David tries to cover this up but women’s husband is too good of a soldier to come home while his friends are still out on the battle field. So in order to cover this up he has this man at the front line of his army where the battle is the most violent. After he is here all of his other men are ordered to take a step backwards so to be sure he gets killed. Now the point of me telling this story is that later on God says that David was a man after his own heart. If David slept with some dudes wife and then had the guy killed, and can not only be forgiven but be called by God himself a man after God’s own heart, then I think just about anything can be forgiven.
One last minor detail that I see you are mistaken on is that you claim the anti-christ is going to create seven years of peace and then destroy the world. Not exactly true, the anti-christ is going the bring seven years of peace and prosperity (on that you are correct) but after the seven years of peace and prosperity there will be seven years of war and famine, and after that god will come back for the rest of his children. Again not a huge detail, but just something I thought needed corrected. I still don’t believe that BOH is the anti-christ but I was just making your defense a little stronger.
March 15, 2008 at 2:39 pm
ok I just wanted to point out that I got a little bit mixed up on one of my previous statements. When I was talking about 7 years of peace and 7 years of war that’s incorrect. It is actually seven years of tribulation for Christians followed by 1000 years of peace. After that there will be one more battle where Jesus defeats Satan once and for all and he is no longer around.
March 15, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Hey all….
I came across this thread a few days, and not sure what to think. I thought about ignoring it, but kind of chuckled and thought I’d leave a quick response. I’ve been called a lot of things in my life, but never the anti-Christ.
I guess when your out on the front lines, all kinds will take stabs at you.
So to put you all at ease…I’m not the anti-Christ, at least I’ve never seen a triple 6 stamped anywhere on my body.
But more importantly, I would really like to have your vote in November.
Thanks Obama
Si Se Puede
March 15, 2008 at 9:26 pm
I hope Barack Obama wins the nomination and the presidency. Best of luck!
March 17, 2008 at 4:28 am
Trevor,
You poor misguided soul! Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it!
To B Obama, yeah right your the real BHO! I am sure your not, as the real BHO should be busy trying how to figure out how in the devil, excuse the pun, to get rid of Mr. Wright who obviously is in the wrong with his anti-American hate spewing sermons! Shame on the man for exploiting his congregation like that. But perhaps they do not mind, after all according to their minister, whitey’s been doing that to them for years! I guess it is somehow better or more acceptable when one of their own does it to them. Poor little lambs, whatever shall they do! I bet it won’t be to tell the leaders of their church to stop spewing such hatred, and start working toward a better for life for all.
As long as the established leadership heirarchy in this country can convince the poor and uneducated that they are victims; victims of a system set up to keep them down, then the lie can perpetuate itself into a self full filling prophecy. I am fully aware that racism in this country exists, but to continually hide behind histories coat tails is cowardly and not what one would expect from Americans white or black!
Looks like BHO goose is getting grilled, what a shame he’ll have to do his AC stint from the Senate floor!
Peace to all!
March 18, 2008 at 9:55 am
Obama is antichrist.
I didn’t like him, i despised him – I thought he is just an empty chatterbox, charismatic, evil, but not dangerous.
Now I am scared out of my mind.
I am leaving US and going back to Europe.
I have to sell my place first.
I hope it will happen at the end of this year.
I have things to do in US, but i hope eventualy to move out of here completely.
I am sorry for you, guys, I am sorry for myself that I wasted so many years here.
One more thing – The white female horse which is going to bring him to power is not his mom – it is Hillary Clinton.
March 22, 2008 at 11:14 pm
hey irrational evangelical you aint my sister but you could be obangas sister you cannot be a christian and vote for barrack the magic negro he is a liberal and believes in abortion but you as you say are born again that means the holy spirit is within you so you cannot endorse him or vote for him. and yes have you ever opened your bible and read romans 1:26 APPARENTLY YOU HAVE NOT he also endorses and promotes that agenda. some of you born again christians just use the title but dont practice what you are supposes to know from your holy spirit. but it says that most of you will be fooled and you are really one of them. i think you could be a blasphemer or heathen. oh yah i think you should follow him and (obama) and take the mark on your forehead if you believe all his bul—-if you were smart you would take the mark of the lord i cant understand your thinking and most of the people on this site will agree.The fact that he endorses 2 issues that GODis against and one is an abomination.but you probably dont know what that word mans and you will have to look it up, SICK OF YOU PHONY BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS’ THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE OTHER B,A,C. WITH THE INDWELLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. GO READ YOU BIBLE AGAIN1!!!!!!!!!
March 22, 2008 at 11:19 pm
hey trevor you must be omamas momma or maybe his son
March 22, 2008 at 11:21 pm
you have it togather J.C
March 22, 2008 at 11:29 pm
SsssssrrrrASSssss where did you come from under a rock you aint too smart you probably believe we came fromm a pool of water from one cell and turned into a human you need some serious mental help if you believe there is no god you will go to hell.then you can talk to all your little one cell animals the best part of you ran down your daddys leg.
March 23, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Coming out of the middle east. Biblically speaking, Jesus came out of the root of David. Solomon hung out with that Etheopian Queen of Sheba. Like we say in music, “Its close enough for jazz.” I’m going to hide and watch. I’m enjoying reading about the dreams, JC. J.Lucas, hang in there and keep searching. One day you will ask yourself a question and the only answer that will make sense is “God”.
March 23, 2008 at 11:03 pm
alright Doc, you say that someone can’t be a christian and vote for Obama. Just because he stands for abortion. I’m not saying that I agree with abortion because I don’t but can you point out anywhere in the Bible where is says that abortion is wrong. If you can tell me where you found it. You can’t say that those people who are for Obama arn’t christians because he stands for abortion. Being against abortion is a not a rule in the Bible, or anything that Jesus said, it’s just something that someone along time ago that was bad. Like I said I’m against abortion and I’m not voting for Obama I just think you need to set a better example for the non-christian people who might get on here and look. You’re supposed to be showing them how God has changed your life so that you are a loving, and understanding person. You’re sending just the opposite signal when your getting after other christians because they are saying the are supporting Obama. Secondly those other people can be just as good of christians as you are and obviously you haven’t read to much into the Bible because it also says that christians should not argue among themselves because it sets a bad example for non-believers. Just remember when you point a finger three are pointing back at you.
Also Mrs. DJ, I think there might some misunderstanding. I’m not the one who is the atheist that is my friend D. Stanley. I am a christian and am actually going to become a pastor.
March 24, 2008 at 2:16 am
Mrs DJ,
I am glad you are reading them. I hope everyone here is taking them seriously, as I have had such dreams my whole life, and, when they occur I can always count on them being fulfilled. But as with anything humankind is involved in, sometimes my interpretation is off. That is why over the years God has provided to me a network of ministers and others that help with interpretating them. Even though this set of dreams have not really needed interpreting.
I wanted to share them with as many people as possible so they can prepare themselves for the events to come. Most time I do not share the dreams with anyone (other than family and even then I sometimes get the look like I am nuts).
I am expecting one more dream, as they usually come in sevens (the God ones come in sevens.) I have asked the Lord to give me time to digest 2-6. But I know time is growing short, and, God will not wait too long. This is His time and His plan, I am merely a messenger nothing more.
Peace to all.
March 25, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Let’s see, Barack H. Obama, Louis Farakhann, Jeremiah Wright, Al Sharpton…When hatred of any facet of mankind is the underlying message, it is not a message of God through Christ. Or more simply, take the religious application out of the picture: it violates every aspect of decent humanity. It doesn’t matter who the Egyptians had for slaves, it doesn’t matter who the Early euro-white’s had for slaves…NO ONE GETS EQUAL BY TRYING TO GET EVEN FIRST. None of us were even alive when these travesties occured. Learn from history, don’t dwell in it. As for Barack H. Obama possibly being the anti-Christ. It is simply thought provoking. It is by far better to assess him by the company he keeps, because they are the apex of the perpetuation of racism. We are all human before we are descript by adjective. Each bleeding red, each loving, hating, crying, dreaming and finally meeting death without color or race having one bit of influence. Beware the hatred the Barack Obama carries around behind that charismatic smile and with his small but powerful “religious” side arms.
God help them first, please.
March 27, 2008 at 1:32 am
hey lucas where have you been livin obviously you need to sit down and read your bible jerimiah 1;5 and as far as the other one goes your boy obama is fooling and deceiving the plastic christians better read romans 1;26 how can you profess to have the holy spirit and believe in murder because if he knew you before you were in your mothers womb you can figure that one out cant you? and remember you should not be going to church if you dont believe in god you cant ripp a page out of the bible just cause you dont like what it says you need the holy spirit and it seems as though you dont have it obama is a far left man remember the 2 issues that the republicans are against obama is for U CAN NOT BE A CHRISTIAN AND VOTE FOR OBAMA UNLESS OF COURSE YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE MORE MONEY IN YOUR POCKETS THAN TO SAVE LITTLE UNBORN HUMANS ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR OBAMA AND CHRISTIANS ARE WEAK MINDED NON DISCERNING PEOPLE I COULD SELL YOU SNOW BALLS IN HELL THATS HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE ABOUT GODS WORD
March 27, 2008 at 1:43 am
YOU SEE LUCAS I HAVE A GIFT FROM GOD IT IS HIS HOLY SPIRIT. AND YOU PEOPLE WHO SAY YOU ARE CHRISTIANS AND VOTE FOR SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES THAT ROMANS 1:26 IS WRONG AND GOD IS WRONG IN WHAT HE SAYS YOU NEED TO GO TO TO //// remember if you deny him now he will deny you on judgement day for he says depart from me i never knew you. that means your going to be flamed broiled. But you will deserve it because of the hollow hole in your heads is filled with air.
March 27, 2008 at 1:53 am
hey lucas jesus is loving to and remember he is also GOD AND BY THE WAY LUCAS GOD THROWS PEOPLE IN HELL IF THEY DONT BELIEVE IN HIM HOWS THAT FOR A LOVING GOD. HE ALSO TORE UP THE TEMPLE AND TOSSED THINGS ALL OVER IN HIS ANGER AND YES GOD ALSO HAS ANGER THAT WAS THE MONEY CHANGERS IN THE HOUSE OF WORSHIP. HE ALSO SAID TO THE PHARISEES IF YOU KNEW MY FATHER YOU WOULD KNOW THAT I AM HE BUT YOUR FATHER IS THE FATHER OF LIES THE DEVIL.
March 27, 2008 at 2:00 am
LUCAS YOU REMEMBER SODOM AND GOMORAH THE WORD SODOMY COMES FROM THAT VERSE IN THE BIBLE DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT SODOMY MEANS.dO YOU REMEMBER WHAT GOD DID TO THEM.THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO YOUR ACTIONS AND ITS CALLED PUNISHMENT BUT THRE IS A WAY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM
March 27, 2008 at 2:03 am
NOT TO BAD MATHEW YOU ARE SMARTER THAN MOST ON THIS SITE YOU SHOULD BE A WRITER.
March 28, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Follow Jesus teachings and practice what HE teaches. Don’t fear man, fear God. Look not unto worldly wisdom, but to the wisdom of the father. Follow Christ and just let the events unfold to his glorious plan. Jah Bless!
March 30, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Hey doc I’m just going to say what I did before you’re sitting here yelling at people because you don’t think they are presenting christianity in a good way. Well if you read the Bible correctly you would see that it tells christians not to argue amongst each other. How about you try fixing the problems in your own life before you correct other people, actually that sounds familiar, oh ya I think it was a parable Jesus used look it up.
March 31, 2008 at 3:07 am
Christians shouldn’t fight amongst themselves, but rather unite for there are bigger worries on the horizon. People are being deceived in great numbers with all this ‘new age’ junk being promoted. One has to ask themselves what it going to come of all of this?
March 31, 2008 at 4:11 am
B. Hussien Obama may or may not be the beast. but the man cannot be trusted he is talking about change and hope what is the change and what is the hope. I know the change is going to be your taxes are going to go up that is if you still have a job. The hope is you have a place to live and food to eat. He’s a liar has lied many times just in the last few weeks. He has buddies that are crooks, a man that he calls his mentor which is a hate monger racist and a wife that is not proud of this great country which she learned from the wrong mr. wright.
I’m glad sir hillary is still in the race so the demon-crats will show their true agenda which is to lie and steal their way to the greatest office in the world. Be afraid be very afraid these are very bad people.
may GOD help us all
March 31, 2008 at 4:29 am
hey LUCAS YOU I dont have to fix any problems you YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS REALLY BIBLE ILLITERITE U MUST HAVE COME FROM ANOTHER PLANET THE ONE THAT PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE ARE WITHOUT BRAINS WHERE DO YOU GET THIS ARGUING KRAP FROM JESUS SAID IT LIKE IT WAS YOU FLAMING IDIOT MAYBE THIS TIME YOU WILL PAY ATTENTION UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE. THIS IS JUST FOR YOU JESUS SAID YOU ARE LIKE YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL HE WAS A MURDERER IN THE BEGINNING AND THE FATHER OF LIES NOW WHO DO YOU THINK HE WAS TALKING TO THE ICE CREAM MAN YOU BETTER READ YOUR BIBLE JESUS ARGUED ALL THE TIME WITH THE PHARISEES. I AM NOT GIVING YOU ANY MORE INFORMATION HE THAT HAS EARS LET HIM HEAR HE WHO HAS EYES LET HIM SEE BETTER GO READ REVELATIONS BECAUSE THE WAY IT LOOKS THERE WILL BE FLAMED BROILED LUCAS YOU WILL BE CAST INTO HELL THATS WHAT JESUS SAYS IF YOU DONT BELIEVE HIS WORD REMEMBER ROMANS 1;26 AND I WILL ARGUE WITH YOU ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU DONT AGREE WITH GOD YOU ARGUE I THINK YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE. YOU ARE NOT TO BRIGHT. I will bet you even dropped out of school and your iq is about 70 and thats being generous oh by the way i am movin on to a site where people have some brains.
March 31, 2008 at 4:36 am
this lucas dude needs to do quite a bit of reading especially the bible. he seems to shoot his mouth off when he does not know what he is talking about. he should get off the site and move to one that is more his style probably an ATHEIST one. I am really getting sick of his ignorance. that doc dude has it right. grow up lucas
March 31, 2008 at 4:52 am
LUCAS where did you come from. you are the one that needs to read the bible jesus was arguing all the time what do you think arguing means LUCAS? IT MEANS a difference of oppinion you dont agree with someone ideas and an example was when they tried to stone that woman to death jesus argued with them and said HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. THEY WANTED TO KILL HER BUT THE LORD DISAGREED. DO YOU EVER WATCH A TRIAL LUCAS. Apparently you have not ? let me refresh your little brain..one attorney says he is guilty and the other one says he is not so they ARGUE THIER CASES. JESUS DID IT ALL THE TIME. IN FACT JESUS WILL ARGUE YOUR CASE ON JUDGEMENT DAY. when the devil acuses you of all your sins the lord will declare you not guilty for he is your advocate before GOD the father.. so you better have a personal relationship with him or you are going to be deep fried’ and apparenly you dont seem to be saved after listening to all your silly thinking i gotta go i wasted to much time on you already.
March 31, 2008 at 5:11 am
LUCAS where are you ? I am waiting for some of your responses which seem to be off the wall. i can see you are telling other people to read the bible when you are void of gods word. you must be a kid or you are squawking about something you know nothing about. You can not be a christian a believing christian filled with the holy spirit and vote for a liberal democrat who believes it is ok to suck an 7 month old infant from the mothers womb Jerimiah 1;5 and the other one is romans 1;26 those to scriptures tell you you cant vote democrat unless of course you want more money in your pocket for they are the party of the working man. so you vote for them for that reason then you care more about your pocket book then you do an unborn baby.If you dont believe the demoncrats are for abortion and dont believe in romans 1;26 you better google thier policys.
April 1, 2008 at 3:32 am
Obama believes in same sex civil unions, civil marriage, and same sex domestic partnership. He has even tried to justify this by using Jesus’ Temple Mount speech. The Bible does not justify homosexuality, it condemns it. Here is the truth—>
Leviticus 18:22-24 (NIV)
22 ” ‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
In 2001, he voted that babies who survived abortions should not be treated as humans. And recently, he remarked that Jesus is not neccessary for salvation and that Jews, Muslims, and non-believers like his deceased Mother are just as much children of God. Here is the truth—>
John 14:6 (NIV)
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Then add his wife Michelle and the remark about just now being proud of her country. And Rev. Wright with his divisive sermons and calling Italians garlic noses.
Now after all of this controversy, one would expect Obama’s poll numbers to go down. But the opposite has happened, his poll numbers are up. It seems like this man can do ANYTHING and get away with it. That really troubles me.
April 1, 2008 at 9:05 am
Just remember all those who already know the LORD JESUS CHRIST as their savior, God is in control. He gives us peace that surpasses all understanding. God is not a god of fear but a god of adoption.( Into his family) I pray that those who don’t know the Lord as there savior will no longer be blind, but will see. All things are possible with Christ.May the Lord draw them near because it is his will that none shall parish. All you believers pray for these lost souls, please.They need to see the love of Christ so that there hearts of stone may become hearts of flesh.Shine for him and chose to encourage and enlighten, not condem and push further into darkness. How can they see the path if the light isn’t shining. They will still be stuck in darkness. Let’s choose blessings instead of cursings.After all, we reap what we sow. God Bless and may Joy and peace be with you. When the devil knocks on the door, Let the Lord get it!
April 1, 2008 at 9:41 am
It is important to note, for those that don’t already know, we don’t get into heaven by being “good”. We get in by the applied blood of Jesus.This happens when we ask him to be in our life.We start our lives new with the Lord as our guide and savior. This where born again comes from. Our sin is now dead and we are alive in Christ.It doesn’t get much better than that!!God will not force himself on you it is your choice. Who would want to be with someone who forces themselve on you? This is why it is up to you. If you don’t chose Christ, then you are seperated from God because of Adam and Eve’s stint in the garden.Sorry if you don’t like it. It is the truth. Will you let pride keep you from your savior? He has so much waiting for you if you’ll just take a chance and try it!!
April 1, 2008 at 9:49 am
I meant we need to ask him to forgive us for our sins and come into our lives, some say hearts.Pretty much the same thing.
April 1, 2008 at 4:40 pm
All you people bashin on J.Lucas are idiots. To start off he is a Christian not atheist, he is not bible illiterate he knows a hell of a lot also his dad is a pastor and he is going to be one as well so if your gonna bash someone know them first you fucking morons
April 1, 2008 at 10:47 pm
D.Stanley,
I understand your desire to defend your friend, but please try to do so without that kind of vile and disgusting language.
Why would we be morons for questioning JLucus? Should we not question JL, and, if so by whose authority?
We here on this forum sought it out because we had questions/concerns that needed to be shared and addressed. Should we assume that JL knows more than than the rest of us; thereby negating dialogue on the subject at hand. I do not believe that and neither should you.
I would caution us all to keep a respectful attitude with each other if that is not possible than please consider not participating in the forum. I, for one, do not care to read such foul and disgusting language.
Peace to all.
April 1, 2008 at 11:06 pm
ok doc first of all you need to actually read what I said first of all before you disagree with me. I said in the bible it states that christians should not argue with each other. Yes Jesus did argue with the Pharisees, where the Pharisees really christians? If you think so than there is something wrong with that. Secondly I agree with you that abortion is wrong I am completely against I was just telling you that you can’t pay so much attention to one thing that has been said in the Bible and leave out another. There is something about that in the Bible also. Oh, Also I have read the Bible, more than once. I do know what I’m talking about, and the reason I haven’t responded is because I don’t get on here religiously just so I can try to prove that I’m right. I know I am and if you don’t think I am it’s just a difference of opinion. I just don’t think that christians should be fighting against each other. Especially when there are obviously some people on here who are not christians who see you fighting. You are supposed to be able to solve your differences without huge disputes. That is one of the things that is supposed to seperate us from non christians.
April 1, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Just to add on to what I said, why would anyone want to be a christian if they got on here and saw that people were arguing and putting each other down, especially over stupid stuff. Doc that’s all I’m saying if you think I’m stupid because I said something that’s true that applies to you than go ahead. Don’t think I’m trying to single you out either, I’m guilty of the same thing. So please just stop bringing up arguments with other people. If not for anyone else do it for the non christians that might get on here and look for anything that sets us apart from them.
April 2, 2008 at 3:28 am
d stanley you are a sick man you need to see a head doctor. i am surprised you even knew how to spell that word that starts with f . you are a disgusting human being you probably crawled out from under a rock
April 2, 2008 at 12:15 pm
ok healthy reasoning are you a christian, because if so you really need to think about what you are saying. Would Jesus ever tell a sinner what you just told D. Stanley, I don’t think so. If you want to say something to him do it more like how JC did it. She is still showing compassion even though she is asking him not to talk like that. Also I am very good friends with D. Stanley and you saying stuff like what you did will only make him want to say more stuff just like that. All I’m asking is for you to be nice about it. Remember God loves everyone, and you should too.
April 2, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Obama being the Anti-Christ is a strong possibility in my opinion. In fact, I have met people that feel the same way. Others think it but too embarrassed to say it.
Obama fits the profile.
Unbelievable that he is loved and supported by so many people of all races. He has little experience yet lifted up and praised.
He studied with Muslims. Yet claims to be Christian. I believe he is a Muslim using a Phony Christian identity. He knows that a Muslim can not be voted in as a President of the United States.
His friends and close contacts are people that support the radical Muslims.
Obama was sworn in as Senator using the Koran as he requested. Christians do not swear in on the Koran.
He wants to bring the American Soldiers home and end the war in Iraq. A war that many soldiers I personally know have told me they are winning and proud of the improvements they are making. It is unfortunate little credit is given to the true heroes that have lost their lives fighting to keep the enemy from fighting on our soil and protecting civilians here. The reason Obama wants to end the war is because I believe he is on the side of the enemy and he is going to sit back and let the radicals take over destroying all progress made by our heroes.
Obama does not have an American name. He has a name like the enemy we fight. His middle name is Hussein.
Terrorists support him and want to see him elected. I believe that many funds donated to Obama were through terrorists organizations.
If people don’t open their eyes and see the Obama I see this country really is going to see CHANGE! A change that will ruin this country!
April 2, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Revelation 13
1 And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems upon its horns and a blasphemous name upon its heads. 2 And the beast that I saw was like a leopard, its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder. 4 Men worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?” 5 And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months; 6 it opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. 7 Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation, 8 and all who dwell on earth will worship it, every one whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain. 9 If any one has an ear, let him hear: 10 If any one is to be taken captive, to captivity he goes; if any one slays with the sword, with the sword must he be slain. Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints. 11 Then I saw another beast which rose out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. 13 It works great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in the sight of men; 14 and by the signs which it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, bidding them make an image for the beast which was wounded by the sword and yet lived; 15 and it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast should even speak, and to cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. 16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
April 2, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Column: Could Obama be the Antichrist?
March 18th, 2008 by Greg Yatarola
Source: The Notre Dame Observer
Ever since I got this column, I’ve wanted to write about Barack Obama. At first, I wanted to praise him for being so positive and staying above the harsh rhetoric common to ambitious politicians. As a conservative (well, mainly), I wanted to express my gratitude for the fact that he, from what I could tell, didn’t hate me. It was so nice to see such a prominent Democrat refrain from constantly accusing Republicans of hating poor people/old people/little people/Mexicans/blacks/Muslims/gays/women/children/polar bears/etc. I found his warmth and charm a pleasant contrast to his main rival, who I bet would like to bite my face off and eat my brain. Even his name’s cool. So duped was I that I nurtured the hope that his ultra-liberal voting record was just a means to get the nomination, and that once elected he’d govern as a moderate.
By the time I’d submitted articles I considered higher-priority, though, the “Look – this guy’s not a shrill partisan jerk!” story was old news. Even important conservatives had written glowingly about Illinois’ junior senator, or at least as glowingly as they could about a liberal, and not just because they enjoyed seeing someone giving the Clintons problems. […]
So I’d decided to forget about him, and was thinking of writing an advice piece for seniors about how to enter the white-collar world (item: if the office go-to girl comes to your cubicle seeking a donation for an AIDS charity, don’t ask whether she’d contracted it). Then I saw the latest issue of Rolling Stone.
At first I thought it was a parody. It’s gotta be, right? Then I realized it wasn’t, and I was reminded of a book by the great Russian Orthodox mystic/theologian, Vladimir Soloviev. In it, the leaders of the Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant faiths go to meet a mysterious, popular world leader, who’s promised to usher in a new order of peace and universal brotherhood and all that good stuff. All his words are spirit and light, and there’s even hushed speculation in some quarters about whether he could be Our Lord come back to earth, or maybe a man who’d prepare for His return, like a second St. John the Baptist. I think it was the Protestant who, in their meeting with the great man, realized with horror that he was none other than the Antichrist.
Before you think I’m totally nuts, wait. I don’t believe Barack’s the Antichrist. Even if biotech developments – human cloning’s inevitability, recent creation of embryonic human-animal hybrids, etc. – make me believe time’s near its end, there’s still much that must happen before the man of sin appears. Besides, there’s a goofiness about Obama and his cult that won’t be found with the Antichrist. But there’s a point – and I think we’ve reached it with Obama – where grossly unmerited adulation and adoration stops being funny, and starts being sinister. And there’s a point too where a man can no longer deny responsibility for the cult-like following he’s gained. Even though I’m deeply cynical, rarely surprised at man’s capacity for self-love and little shocked by any suggestion that most people end up damned, I still think normal people would be at least a bit bothered by the veneration Obama’s received. Remember Monty Python’s Brian? I’m conceited myself, and I was sickened by my own surprise graduation party. But Obama seems perfectly comfortable being treated like a god. And I believe it takes a special, especially evil, man to accept such worship.
With the ongoing On-Eagle’s-Wings-ification of the Church, many Catholics consider the idea of the Antichrist an embarrassing anachronism. That’s one reason he’ll manage to gain power. Those who do still look for his entry into history are likely to expect a bloodthirsty savage riding a chariot of human skulls. That’s another reason he’ll fool so many, for he’ll be more Lennon than Lenin.
Don’t get me wrong – there’s plenty about Obama’s politics I consider profoundly evil. For instance, his opposition to laws protecting babies born in botched abortions (amazing how the little stinkers resist being chopped up). Indeed, the odiousness of his positions is one reason he keeps his speeches away from pesky specifics and policy. But it’s his ability to inspire religious fanaticism toward himself, and his delight in it, which I find most disturbing, even chilling. And it’s these features of his candidacy that I think will be of most lasting significance.
April 2, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Kyle,
Just FYI BHO was not sworn in on the Qu’ran. Nor is he a muslim pretending to be a Chirstian. BHO aligns himself with a denomination proclaiming Chirst as their salvation; as he knows this will afford him the proper kind of audience he seeks. But Lucifer, King of all liars “must get you to believe your own lies to fool others into believing them”. I personally think that BHO knows perfectly well he could never even hint at being anything but a Christian, to do otherwise would signal the end of his campaign(s).
Not that he needs to win the election, BHO is who he is, and that is the AC. I know it, and, soon so will everyone else will know it too. This is God’s time and God’s plan. There is nothing we can do to stop it or sway God from it. WE are merely charged with preparing ourselves, and, whomever else will hear the message.
In paragraph 5 when you said “more Lennon than Lenin”, I may be wrong, but I think you meant “more Lenin than Lennon”.
Peace to all.
April 3, 2008 at 12:57 am
Wake up! Sen. JOE LIEBERMAN V.P. RUNNING MATE OF JOHN McCAIN IS YOUR ANTICHRIST!!! P.S. A few years back after the state of the union,bush was greeted as he stepped from the rostrum “with a kiss” by guess who? yes, sen. joe lie-ber-man.any DOUBT WHO McCAIN’S V.P. IS GOING TO BE SHOULD BE ANSWERED BY THIS DATE IN TIME,”GOODNESS GRIEF”…
April 4, 2008 at 2:00 am
lucas what ever made you think God loves everyone i have news for you do you think he loves the devil. God will allow people to go to hell. you are not to smart about many things i have been paying attention to your posts and it seems as though you need some knowledge in the WORD. Jesus called the pharisees murderers. and he called people blasphemers this person tha uses the f word deserves to be called a —– the truth hurts and God DOES NOT LIE. THIS HUNK OF FLESH THAT USES THE F WORD NEEDS TO BE LIVING ON A PLANET WITH ALL THE REST OF HIS KIND AND AS 4 YOU LUCAS YOU ARE A TYPICAL BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL THAT NEEDS TO BE SMACKED AROUND A LITTLE BIT SO YOU WAKE UP
April 4, 2008 at 12:44 pm
ok are you trying to say that God doesn’t love everyone, because that’s what it sounds like, and if that’s what you are saying you need to read your bible again. If God only loves christians than why would he have sent his son to die on the cross. The only reason Jesus died on the cross was so that sinners would have a way into heaven. If God didn’t love sinners than you and I would would already be in hell because no one was born a christian, everyone was born into sin. Since you are claiming to be a christian which as I’m sure you already know means “Christ-like” you should be imitating Jesus, which means that you need to be showing all the love that Jesus showed to sinners. Yes he did call the Pharisees murderers which most of them rightly where, but that is his place alone to judge people not yours and not mine. Actually for your earlier statement earlier “Do you think God loves the devil.” Since Lucifer was once and angel who overstepped his boundaries and tried to go to far, yes I do think God did love the devil. Now I don’t think he does, but as far as humans go I know he does
April 5, 2008 at 3:55 am
why dont you leave the sight and go somewhere else you talk like a suirrel without his nuts
April 6, 2008 at 1:11 am
hey doc where are you you really had that ludicrous lucas going he only takes bits and pieces out of the bible taking them out of context. like lucifer was loved by GOD but that is past tense now God does not love the devil. and is throwing them him in hell that is why you are loved until you make a mistake then by by by into the skillet. but if you repent than you are forgiven, Go read your bible lucas and stop shootin off your mouth
April 7, 2008 at 8:17 pm
I am a Christian. I go to church regularly and I study the Bible regularly. For some of these people to judge Barack Obama from there being “something about him that is evil” is ridiculous! Obama claims to be a Christian and that he is a follower of Jesus Christ. Would the antichrist say such things??? I don’t know whether he’s a true Christian or not, but to speculate about this stuff is very unfair to the man. Please vote on the issues people! Politics in this country isn’t supposed to be about what religion you are, but rather whom is most equiped to maximize the amount of Americans they can help. We are a free country and a leader cannot alienate Americans who are other religions. They have a right to be wrong in my opinion. All that said, it does sadden me that he claims to be a Christian, yet votes pro-Abortion. He says he voted against a partial-birth ban because it didn’t contain language to allow an abortion if the mothers life was in risk. To me, thats a legit reason to vote against the ban, however, he didn’t elaborate enough for me that he would support such a ban if the language did include allowing an abortion if the mother’s life was at risk. A Christian should be pro-life and should be a definitive leader about such moral issues as this attrocity that so many people support in this country. I’m still undecided as to who I’ll vote for out of McCain or Obama, but I’m leaning towards Obama. We need to leave Iraq. We’re there for a bullcrap reason, our soldiers are dying, and the war budget is draining on the economy.
April 7, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Ryan,
Yes, the AC would say such things as “that he/she were a follower of Jesus Christ.” The AC (aka BHO)has, and, will continue to say anything to get you trust/vote for him.
FYI I am/will be voting on the issues, and, trust me BHO does not, nor will he ever, hold dear the issues that I do. The most important issue to me is our military, and, their success in Iraq and Afganistan. BHO nor Billary have the ability,let alone the stamina, to handle the issues there or around the world.
Yes, we are a free country, and, you can thank our military for that!! As for statement that “we need to leave Iraq”. Why do you think we are there for a “bullcrap” reason? Have you spoken to the men and women serving there? Most of them serving do not want to leave, not when they are so close to achieving the objective. Shame on you for wanting them to cut and run.
Go ahead and vote for BHO, I am sure your reward for that vote will be justly deserved, when you are forced to bow to Islam’s false moon god. And should you by some mircle have the courage and fortitude of God not to do so, you will remember this moment as you are being beheaded for the infidel that you are! 🙂
Peace to all
April 8, 2008 at 1:11 am
THIS RYAN DUDE TALKS FROM BOTH SIDES OF HIS MOUTH HE SAYS ABORTION IS AN ATROCITY IN ONE SENTENCE AND OBAMA IS FOR IT THAN HE SAYS HE DOES NOT KNOW WHO HE IS GOING TO VOTE FOR (WHAT AN AIR HEAD) HE CONTRADICTS HIMSELF’ I THANK HE NEEDS SERIOUS MENTAL HELP. ABORTION IS ABORTION YOU FOOL WHETHER IT IS PARTIAL OR FULL TERM. YOU DISGUST ME.JUST LIKE ALL YOU OTHER A–H-L-ES THAT EVEN THINK ABOUT VOTING FOR THAT CON MAN ABORTIONIST NEGRO
April 8, 2008 at 1:24 am
RYAN I THINK YOU SHOULD GO OVER THERE WHERE ALL YOUR MUSLIM FRIENDS ARE. you sure dont belong in this country. Maybe if we just leave them alone they wont bother us anymore. then when they come over here we can shake thier hands and welcome them. i will bet that if your daddy was in the twin towers that day and was blown into little bittey peaces you would go and tell them lets be friends and get along we dont need to fight with you come on over to my house for dinner and meet my mom. you are a dog terd that is going to get stepped on. do you think they are just going to stop hating us. you were probably born in the burbs and never got into a fight or never saw one except on tv you were a panzi your mama probably wiped your but for you till you were 21 and maybe longer
April 8, 2008 at 11:49 pm
I am a Christian, not into politics at all really, but just this morning something hit me. Could Obama be the Anti-Christ? I am a daily devoted follower of Christ, an active prayer, reader of the word and worshiper. I also have visions and dreams that have been heavily tested and weighed by those in spiritual authority. I have not had a dream of Obama like JC. However, her sincerity and humility in posting cannot be overlooked. God said that in the end times HE will pour out his spirit on all flesh and even young children with prophesy and have dreams and visions. God’s Spirit inside us (conscious) is never wrong. Only you, as readers, know what your heart is telling you. You will be judged by how the Spirit inside you testifies to you.
So to share, I can only testify to what I am seeing b/c ,ere ppinions based on emotion seem pointless in MHO. So, here is what I know.
1) Roman Catholics believe that long ago an angel appeared to a group of people in a field and told them that the AC would be black. At the time of the visitation, since the biggest world leader was the Pope, they had assumed the world would end when there is a black Pope. However, the one with world power today is the U.S. thus making the ruler of the U.S. a candidate for the AC.
2) Hindu’s Prophecies say the same…the Anti-Christ will be of black decent.
3) The Mayans, who are great astrologers believe the world will come under great destruction in 2012. That leaves 3 1/3 years for Obama to declare peace and a world order and the last term for him to reign, destroy Christians and bring wrath in the tribulation.
4) Read the comments from others under the youtube Obama speeches. People are mesmerized by Him for no apparent reason. All nations LOVE Obama who comes with much obscurity. (confusion – the character of Satan) He identifies with all people, but does not stand, concrete as just one.
5) He does not honor our country by placing his hand over his heart….declaring or country is “Under God.”
6) All Presidents of the U.S. from beginning of time have declared themselves to be Christians. Obama is the first one to hesitate and even refute that standing.
7) Obama’s paster say’s… not, “God bless American”…but “God Da_ _ America.” This was Obama’s pastor for 20 years, who Obama sees as an uncle, he financially supports, who baptized Obama’s children and who married him and his wife.
8) Obama comes as any Christian (BTW – The enemy (Satan) comes disguising himself as light) declaring unity, peace and change. Yet, Obama’s own church declares division between races, hate for America and hostility in the face of government.
9) Does anyone think it is interesting that Obama has his own logo? Has any other presidential candidate or government leader for that matter had a logo (symbol) before?
10) Obama is against Israel. How can you be God’s person (a Christian) yet hate God’s people?
11) How can you be raised radical Muslim during THE most impressionable years and not be influenced by them in later years. Don’t we establish roots when young? Even the bible says, “Teach a child the ways he will go and when he is old he will not turn from them.” What if we teach a child to worship Allah? When he is old, will he turn back to it?
12) The Jihad has said… next time they are going to destroy America from the inside out. Their goal is to put a Muslim flag at the White House and declare it a Mosque. How can they do that (long term) without a Muslim majority ruling our nation?
13) Why are people weeping and crying and fainting at a man with no influence (yet) Did he sing, like Elvis or Dance like Travolta? What logical explanation is there for such support of a simple man? Could it be His Spirit that will sway nations as the bible has prophesied? Could it be, unexplainable admiration for a man who will “rise out of nowhere” as the bible also says?
I am just throwing things out there. Like I said, I have not had dreams or visions about this….it just hit me out of the blue…without any thought on politics. I do dream often that the end times are coming however and that a great army are preparing to bring destruction upon the earth. Only those that stand on The Rock (Jesus Christ) will stand at all. Please, listen to His Spirit within you. We will be swayed by man, but our hearts will not lie.
Rev. 13:5
“A mouth speaking great things and blasphemes and was GIVEN AUTHORITY to continue for 42 months (3 1/2 years). THEN, he opens his mouth in blaspheme against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle and those who dwell in heaven. IT WAS GRANTED to him to make war with the Saints and to overcome them. And AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO HIM over every tribe, tongue and nation. All who dwell on earth will worship him” (Anti-Christ)
BTW – those who consider the race issue. My immediate family is black (through adoption) white and Hispanic. No one can say my opinions are biased in any way.
1 John 2:18 “Little children, it is the last hour and as you have heard, the Anti-Christ is coming….”They went out from us, but they were not of us, for if they had been of us, they would have contiued with us, but they went out that they might be made manifest that none of them were of us.”
1 John 4:2 “And this is the Anti-Christ which you have heard and now is already in the world. They are of the world. Therefore, they speak as of the world and the world hears them.”
Hear not the things of this world. Hear the things of God. The time is near. HE (Jesus Christ) IS COMING!!
April 9, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Hey truth matters what are you even talking about. What you said had absolutely nothing to do with what I said except the one statement I made about Jesus loving Lucifer (Past tense). “that is why you are loved until you make a mistake then by by by into the skillet” I never said that and never implied that either because it’s not true. Can you find anywhere in the Bible where God says he doesn’t love anyone at all. You can’t because God is love, and he loves everyone it’s not a selective thing where he picks to love you and then forgets about your neighbor. If God didn’t love everyone we would have no point in being here on earth. Now I know I am probably the same religion as most of you guys in here, but if you want to follow it blindly and cause other people to go to hell then hey their blood is on your hands not mine. As for me I’m going to do what everyone is supposed to do as a christian, show Gods love to everyone and everything.
April 9, 2008 at 9:36 pm
hey j lucasfer where you been livin in the west virgina hills truthmatters is correct and you are wrong. You probably dont even remember your ancesters but let me tell you who they were ADAM AND EVE. do you remember what GOD did to them for not listening. and remember what happened to cane when he didnt give the right offering. YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE AND MOVE OFF THIS SITE YOU TALK NONSENSE.
April 9, 2008 at 9:41 pm
hey lucas you big dummy we need for you to get off this site and stop babbling your garbage. you know nothing you pretend to know gods word but you just flap your gums go wipe your nose and go to the bathroom and get rid of the stuff you have in your intestines cause you are full of —-
April 9, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Okay,
I have to leave a comment. First of all the comment by JesusisChrist – Everything you have said has happened to me. I had the same thoughts & same conclusions. According to Islam, If Obama has NOT denounced Allah OR Islam then he is still Muslim. Obama is Muslim. I want to know the scripture where it says the beast will come from the middle east? What I read in revelation said he would rise out of the sea which is the ‘multitudes of people’.
Now, to Lucas – I don’t know who you really are but you are truly very misleading. I cannot believe you would say abortion is not in the Bible? And it’s just something somebody made up? Well, I doubt people were actually inducing labor & sucking brains from babies at the time of Christ so maybe there is NO EXACT WORD FOR ABORTION but what is abortion? And I doubt they were spraying saline in the mother’s womb back then to BURN the baby to death? It is MURDER. Taking a life that God formed is MURDER. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created. God created ALL things including babies. Ps 139:15-16 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written your book before one of them came to be. God formed each & every one of us in the womb even babies that are being killed prematurely. Ex 21:22 If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely (or miscarriage)…but if there is serious injury injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise. That’s pretty clear that when you cause a woman to miscarry how SERIOUS the Lord thinks for that. Then there is the 10 Commandments: THOU SHALL NOT MURDER! Gen 9:6 Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man. Gal 5:19 says murderers won’t inherit the Kingdom of God (among others) Jesus said in Matt 19:18 do not murder. The LIST of what the WORD has to say about Murder. And then there is obviously MORE scripture than that. I used both the OT & NT just in case you would say the OT isn’t valid anymore. I cannot for the life of me understand how you can possibly JUSTIFY abortion? I was appalled to read that – appalled! Now, I’m curious since you believe abortion is okay – what scriptures do you have where the Lord says it is okay to KILL A BABY?
Do you believe Jesus is the SON of God who died on the Cross then rose again 3 days later? That JESUS IS LORD?
April 9, 2008 at 11:27 pm
that away lindsey that was very good you put lucas in his place with gods word you did a better job than me. the word of god cuts like a two edged sword lucas. Lucas probably put a bandaid on him self after he heard gods word from you lindsey. by the way lindsey check out some of his other posts they are utter nomsense and he said he read his bible cover to cover. it brings to mind the scripture that says.he has ears but does not hear and he has eyes but does not see. sounds alot like lucas.i think he just talks a good game. his other posts are all misinformation any way good job keep posting the truth lindsey you do know gods word.
April 9, 2008 at 11:36 pm
lindsey did you see how he put the spin on the devil thing i am talking about lucas the obama man he tried to turn it around but we both know the devil will be tossed into the pit. and GOD also knew that the angel lucifer was going to try and take over. he knows what we say before we say it and also the number of hairs on our head. i will leave the sight for i am really geting disgusted with lucas for his misinformation. you put him in his scriptural place and dont let him distort GODSword
April 10, 2008 at 12:03 am
To all of those interested I have had my seventh dream. To those of you not interested please just skip it.
I am somewhere inside a city there is concret everywhere and tall buildings. The sky appears overcast and the air is thick, it feels as if it to heavy to breathe. I am alone, yet I know that there are people around, they all seem to be standing, seemingly motionless, yet moving in the same direction. I am moving quickly almost running. I feel the heart in my chest jump, someone is yelling behind me. I know that I am being chased I see the stairs and I begin to climb them fast than faster still. I am now 3 floors above ground; I see someone below me yelling at me to stop yet they continue to move. I continue to climb until I come to door, I open the door and there stands BHO. He is smiling he reaches out his hands to grab at me, he says my name as his hands grasp my neck. I struggle to breathe, as I feel myself fall into the abyss, I pray “God help us” as I finish this prayer the stairs begin to tremble and violently fall away from the side of the building. BHO can no longer hold onto me as he begins to fall with the stairs, his grip loosens and he tumbles downward, I on the other hand am being swept upward higher. I feel a sense of floating literally on air. I look down and there I stand cradled in the hand of God. The sky is now clear and those below are now praising God. Then I wake up!
Peace to all.
April 10, 2008 at 2:09 am
Street Smart,
We all must be careful on blogs. There truly are people who are ‘implants’ that are just creating dissenssion. It wouldn’t surprise me if Lucas & D.Stanley are the SAME person. I have read his other comments but it was the abortion issue that I really wanted to address because someone may actually read that & believe it is okay.
Blessings!
April 10, 2008 at 4:05 pm
JC,
I am highly interested in yours dreams as I also often get prophetic dreams. Mine are more end times related however. I hate to post this publicly, however, I don’t know how else to do it. My concern is, your dreams seem primarily fear based. Dreams from the enemy often provoke fear, leave anxiety and feelings of heaviness, may appear dark or confusing…etc. From what I recall, you are a believer, yes! Have you ever read James Goll? He is a Christian writer about dreams. He is clear and straight forward regarding the gift of discerning dreams and helps his readers interprete dreams according to scripture. I do not want to discourage you from anything God is calling you to do. However, seeing you are gifted in the prophetic, I also would hate to see the enemy use one of God’s vessels to accuse another or to provoke fear into the readers of these posts. As Christians, it is important we stir love, not any other emotion that is not of Christ. Please trust that I am writing this in love to you and that I believe it is important that we test and weigh all things…especially dreams. We can tell everything by its fruit. I am sure you already know this.
April 10, 2008 at 5:51 pm
J,
Thank you for your concern in your post, I do appreciate your vantage point.
By your post I assume that you are concerned that I am trying to place fear in the hearts of others, or at very least I harbor fear about the events to come concerning the AC (aka BHO)? I assure you nothing could be farther from the truth. I share this “set of seven” as I have been called to. WE all need to prepare for the end of this age, as man’s rule is about to end, only those who trust God, and are washed in the blood of Jesus will come through this. It is not my job to make anyone else believe/disbelieve or debate the meaning of these dreams. I am fully aware what they all mean, God has been very straight forward as to that. I am aware that they (the dreams) really are personal warnings to me to gird myself with the Armour of the Lord (the Word of God), as the battle is/has about to begin/begun.
As a matter of fact prior to this “set of seven”, I had not even given BHO a second thought. BHO has never fightened me, he has a destiny to fulfill, just as we all do. God is preparing me to trust Him completely, as that is the key to my survival both spiritually and physically.
When I was eight years old God came to me in my first ever dream, there He told me that I was to be a warrior for Him. I have always known that I would be here for the tribulation period, just before Jesus’ return, in fact I will survive that period, and my reward will be to see Jesus arriving in the clouds to reclaim/proclaim God’s supremacy on earth.
This “set of seven” has provided me with hope and assurance that God is control. I am simply clay being molded by God, for a very specific purpose. I accept it with all my heart and I know that God’s will will be done. Nothing else matters now or then. I welcome my very small part, as there is no place I wish to run to, God is my refuge, just as He should be for all, that is why I felt lead to share the seven dreams with everyone here.
Again thank you for your insights, I trust you will gird yourself with the Word so as to be prepared.
I am not posting here to “stir” anything but to warn those that would hear let him/her do so.
As for your question about James Goll, nope! God has always provided an interpreter when it is warrented.
As for testing and weighing, all I have ever needed is Matthew 4:10 and Luke 4:1-13
Peace to all.
April 10, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Thanks JC for that follow-up! You do sound like a Mighty Warrior for Christ!! In seeing your insight and motives, I commend you greatly in following God’s call on your life and following His will. It’s amazing how God is our teacher and through Him and His word we have all we need! I think that if I could share one thing on this board, it is the need to fix our eyes on God alone. Often times, we turn to other things or people to “help” us, “find” God, or “know” him better. Yet, with discernment and sincerity of heart if we draw close to Him, He will draw close to us. He will / does reveal the “secrets” of His heart with all those who wish to find him. What an amazing time to live in. One where God pours himself out so freely to His people. I too feel called to Spiritual warfare/ to war for Christ and praise God that as believers we are well equipped with HIM who goes before us and with the body of believers strong beside us!!:0)
April 11, 2008 at 12:34 pm
I have to say to JC & JesusisChrist,
I have never been one ot those believers who has studied the end times. In fact, it always caused me unrest so I didn’t want to study it. My husband & father-in-law have studied it greatly & when terrible things happen in the world – they get excited because it’s just ONE more day closer to seeing our Lord. I personally have never felt that. However, watching what is happening w/ BHO – it too, came to me one day – could he be the AC? Just out of the blue. And like you JesusisChrist, I thought about EXACTLY ALL THE POINTS TO A TEE you pointed in your thoughts!! So, I started to look at the Scriptures where it talks about the Beast & WOW, I don’t know if he is the AC but if he is not I definetely think the Lord is showing us how it’s going to happen. I have enjoyed reading your dreams JC – I have been having some strange dreams lately myself & then my husband has been having dreams that coincide almost identically to mine. I have had dreams since I became a Christian but the ones lately have been different. Victorious dreams!! So, for the first time – I am EXCITED to know more about what is ahead in these times for us believers!! I can’t wait to see the Lord Jesus! And I agree w/ you JesusisChrist – we MUST keep our eyes on Jesus – there are several scriptures that talk about keeping our faith until the end – there will be many who turn AND I DON”T WANT TO BE ONE OF THOSE!!! I think there may be times when we could feel distress at the things going on but if we continue to keep our eyes fixed on the Prize – WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS!!! Praise the Lord!!
Blessings to you both!
April 11, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Linsey,
So glad to read your post. It is amazing how God works through His knowing and through dreams. I am very interested about your dreams and find it so exciting that your husband too is getting dreams. (What unity between the two of you!) If you would like to share that would be great. I am sure JC and I, as well as others on here could glean much from them. Like I said, mine have been more end times related….of earthquakes and actually seeing the (spiritual) battle that is now taking place and is to come by many believers. One dream was of my family members being left behind and questioning me….why didn’t you tell us of The Good News? This one was the hardest. Yet, of all the dreams I have had regarding end times, there is no fear, just an alertness in my spirit and a call to take up my sword and fight. (spiritually speaking) Mine are more like watching a moving than being in a horror film. Again, it is exciting to see how God moves amongst His people so that no one will be lost and to see/read how “on fire” you are for Our Glorious God!! Surely, He will use you and the dreams you have had to impact His Kingdom!
April 12, 2008 at 3:15 am
JesusisChrist,
I tried to respond earlier but it didn’t take & I think I had accidently hit the submit button while I was still typing & actually I hadn’t edited my response. I always type then go back & edit what’s non essential & typos. So, hopefully, one of my submissions doesn’t get reposted more than once? Strange.
I have been having more frequent dreams since Jan. I don’t know if they are related to end times or just personal spiritual battles but they have definetely incrased in frequency. I don’t mind sharing.
In Jan, I had a dream that I was swimming in a lake near a dam. The flood gate sirens started to sound signaling they were going to open up the dam. I looked to my right & there was a watch tower…I could see a gate at the very top & I just knew that was the way out to safety. I climbed the ladder to the the top of the watch tower in search of my husband but when I got to the top – it was no exit – there was nothing. I knew I had little time left & I knew I was going to die. Straight ahead of me next to the dam was a dock but there was a locked gate. About that time, a man drove up & yelled for me to swim quickly to him & he would open the gate for me. I dove into the water & swam w/ all my heart to safety – he opened the gate & I was able to get out. He then drove down the dock straight into the water as if that was where he was going all along. The dam opened & had I still been on the watch tower I would have drowned. Then I woke up.
The next night my step-daughter had a dream that really disturbed her. She was at a lake w/ my husband, & our other daughter (who is 3). There was a cliff that my daughter wanted to jump off & my husband allowed her to. There was only 2 inches of water. She broke every bone in her body. My step daugther said she was soooo angry w/ her dad for allowing our daughter to jump that she was hitting him & crying & screaming at him. She actually awoke from this dream crying.
About 2 weeks later – I had a dream of ravaged pit bulls trying to get into my home. I couldn’t close the door cuz they were half in. I was fighting them off with my bare hands trying to keep them out of my home! My hands were getting chewed up but I was protecting my family. I finally was able to get the door closed. I woke up.
That same night my step daughter had another dream. She was watching my daughter & she was playing in the back yard on the trampoline w/ our dog. She looked at back to check on her. It was dark. In the corner of the yard she could see the eyes of a tiger hiding in the corner of the yard. She yelled for my daughter to run but she didn’t. The dog did. She started to run towards her yelling run, run, run! And my daugther finally started to run for her & as she did the tiger lept out & started to run after her to. About the time she reached my step daughters arm so did the tiger. He bit her & clawed her. My step daughter started to beat & beat & beat the tiger w/ her own bare hands. She said she felt victory over the tiger! She knocked the tiger down. Took my daughter in the house & doctor’d her.
I forgot to mention this, too. I just remember this. I was sharing my dream w/ a friend & she kind of freaked out (the one w/ the pit bulls trying to get into my home) cuz she had had a dream that night as well where it was a random act of violence but some guys had walked right into my home cuz I didn’t have the SCREEN door locked & did some bad things. (I did start locking my screen door) *Just weird*
I forgot about the other dream my step-daughter had as well. She usually dreams of my daughter – and she in danger but my step daughter is the one who is protecting her. She had another dream shortly after the tiger dream. They were swimming in a pool in the middle of no where – deserted. The house was a shack in shambles. The pool was dirty full of blood. But they were still swimming in it. About that time a man that looked like a beast (part man/ part beast) tried to take my daughter. (there were many more details about this man but I should have written them down & now I’m trying to recall how she described this beast cuz she actually dreamt about this man multiple times) She woke up.
Then earlier this week I had another dream. I dreamt we were at a cross roads w/ a dirt road & highway – we were on the dirt road. We had a new boat but that was insignificant as I don’t recall nothing about it. My husband was fixing the hitch. He kept saying we could only drive 40mph & if we didn’t leave between 3pm-4pm then we’d never make it. About that time, his parents showed up & presented him w/ a certificate for land they had purchased for him for hunting – they called it his sanctuary ground. They also gave him hunting supplies (not what you would think though – no gun/bow) that consisted of food like honey? About that time 4 or 5 guys came up & were going to cause trouble but my husband ran them off. I woke up.
I was telling hin about my dream…he freaked out cuz he had a dream, too. He dreamt that we had built our new dream home on our dream land. What’s weird is he loves the house on that land but we were building a house. It was built out of that pollystillfoam (spelling? I’m a woman don’t kow all materials men talk about) because supposedly it’s the BEST material for building a home. We had just moved in but nobody knew it as the home still looked vacant. A truck drove up & about 4 or 5 guys got out to vandalize our new home. But my husband got his shot gun (that’s my husband’s style LOL) & ran them off!
Last night, I had another dream about this little ‘creature’ (lack of better words) I have dramt about in the past. It’s about the size of a rat but has the body of a silver beetle shell. It has smaller head. And long long legs like that of a spider but very long & they even curve up as high as the body. Well, I dreamt this creature was in my home somewhere but I couldn’t catch it. I did some research & discovered that it is virtually impossible to kill cuz it is soo fast. They said you had to trap it first & then you might have a chance to stomp on it if you were fast enough. On the paper I was reading it showed a picture of this creature they had trapped by allowing it sleep in a flip-flop sandal. Above it was the picture of the shoe that was going to squash it! Then I had another dream. I dreamt we were doing some more building to our home. We had to hire help cuz there wasn’t enough time & too much to do. This is odd for us. We built a wall at the edge of our driveway from the sidewalk to the house. It was made of all brick except for cement blocks on the top. We wanted a tree planted. So these guys did that but they did something very strange & I hope I can describe this well cuz it’s difficult to explain. They had a tree that had been cut down. They sawed off several inches & began placing that on the ground where this tree was to be planted but what they did was cut lots of these pieces like that from the tree to create like this 2 foot high stump that was a larger body. Weird. Then they took the smalled portion of that tree & cut a small circle & placed that attached the big circle they had already set up. They then drilled a hole in the small one & planted the tree in that hole. I had been watching this from the driveway. I looked up to see my husband balancing on top of the wall. A cement block had come loose & was going to fall. I yelled at him – i wasn’t concerned about it hitting my head but rather him losing his footing. He quickly manuevered the cement block back in. Then I woke up. When I was thinking about the dream this morning – it dawned on me that what those guys built to plant the tree was the same shape as the creature. They put a hole in it’s head to plant a tree? Weird.
I know what many of these mean but I do admit at least this last one is a mystery still. I don’t know if they are related to end times as they don’t seem like it. But definetely there is a spiritual battle & they have increased in frequency. These aren’t typical for me either as I normally have literal spiritual battle dreams where I am face to face w/ evil & have to call upon Jesus. These are different. Since you asked to share thoiught I would.
i would think the one of not sharing the gospel w/ my children would have been hard to take, too. My husband had a dream of my step-daughter once & she had been in a coma from a car accident. It upset him soo much he had another conversation w/ her about salvation so he could have peace that it wasn’t a warning.
Well, I feel as though I’ve typed a novel & fingers hurt! LOL
Blessings!
April 12, 2008 at 7:06 am
Man, everybody is talking about this now! I first came across it here and decided to Google search it.
Crazy! Kind of weird…
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/702493/is_barack_obama_the_antichrist.html
April 12, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Lindsey,
May I suggest putting a journel beside your beds and before getting up write what you dreamed the night before. I have been doing this for years, I put only what I have dreamed in those, it makes a great reference; plus it will help you see the patterns in which you dream. This usually takes only a couple of minutes. Sometimes as the day progresses something will trigger a recall of details that you did not remember that morning as you are writing things down, you can go back and add it. I have journels that go back to when I was about 10 years old. My Mom helped me to do this so I would be better able to handle the stresses of such dreams. Once the dream has been recorded you can leave the stress in the journel, it is much like touching a plant/tree and leaving the stress there before you enter your home. This physical manifestation of leaving the stress within the journel/plant works really well. Hope this helps.
Peace to all!
April 13, 2008 at 4:40 am
Lindsey,
Wow, I can relate to your dreams totally. It sounds like much of what you wrote has to do with spiritual things your family is facing presently. I would think this because you all were very actively engaged in them (vs. watching or observing in them) I believe God is speaking so mightily to families in this day and age and dreams are an excellent way to alert us or direct us. I often end up coming across scripture that verifies or confirms my dreams and that they are from God. I think you will too. Again, dreams from God should alert, warn, direct or reveal…but they should never leave you in a panic. Dreams are nothing however without the dream giver (God)! :0) It is His first I always want to seek.
You probably know all this…but I thought I would throw some stuff out there anyway. Swimming often represents our spiritual journey. The one directing you seems to be an angel. I am finding more and more God’s angels in my dreams and see more clearly how he uses them to direct his people.
Our physical houses represent our personal houses (self) These dreams often tell us things about ourselves or warn us in some way.
Your daughters dreams especially alerted me. Some may be personal or directed toward her own lifes circumstances, but the one about her protecting your other daughter seems very significant. My son had a dream when he was little that a car pulled up and took away his sister. Years later, a convicted pedaphile actually pulled up within a few feet of my daughter and solicited her.(This is odd as I consider us to live in a “safe” place) Praise God, she was kept safe and the pediphile is now in prison (again) But, I consider my sons dream years earlier as a warning for to us as parents to watch for my daughter and pray for her in the area of protection….both physical and spiritual.
Lastly, the dream about the dog trying to come in really struck me. My daughter has had a similar dream….as well as another intercessor at my church. I have dreamed of a dog also. I believe the dog represents the enemy and its attempt to break through barriers it should have no authority to enter into…(being a child of God) As I mentioned earlier about scripture, I came across Revelations 22:15 which I felt related. “Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates of the city. But OUTSIDE (they should not come in) are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.” Your fighting to keep the dog out of your house seems very symbolic and significant. Way to go, warrior!!!
I agree with JC about journal…preferably right when you wake up. Ask God questions too…like what does this or that mean. Seek scripture as confirmation.
God is so good to speak to us, not just in dreams but in so many ways! Sometimes, I can’t get enough of reading His word or knowing Him as the Divine Father He is.
Heaven and earth will pass away…but HIS word will never change!! Thanks again for sharing.
April 14, 2008 at 1:52 am
Thanks for your insights JesusisChrist…the scripture you shared in Revelation was interesting…you are absolutely right…Last night I ended up in Daniel & read some versus that applied to one of my dreams! I think I will have to start journaling my dreams as both you & JC have recommended. These are just some of the dreams the last couple of months but I have had many over the years since I became a Christian. What’s interesting…some I have absolutely no recollection of but I have a friend that I share a lot with & she will bring up similiarities at times from past dreams I have shared w/ her that I don’t even recall! So, I will do that.
I do pray for the safety of my children. I often even pray over their rooms while they sleep. The dreams with my step-daughter though I really think may actually pertain to her. She is dealing with a lot of anger. My understanding is when we dream of a sibling that it can be literal but sometimes it is self (because of similarities). She does not live with us & lives in a very ungodly environment…she has been making some very self-destructive choices lately. She did accept Christ when she was young & recently rededicated her life (in Oct) but there is a very strong battle going on with her. We pray all the time for her!! That is all we can do… Even though I think her dreams are about herself – I have found it ironic there are similiarities between hers & mine at virtually the same times. She knows nothing about mine – I don’t share those with her. But every time she has one…she calls me.
I’m looking forward to seeing what happens. I had said previously that thinking about end times events always caused me unrest but now I have an excitement! I have found this blog interesting & enjoy reading the thoughts of others.
I know what you mean about not getting enough of Him. When I first became a Christian – I spent literally 6 hours a day in the Word!! I couldn’t wait to get up to read his Word! I would almost be late to work cuz I couldn’t put it down then I couldn’t wait to get home to read more & I would stay up until 1am or 2am just reading. I used to sleep w/ my Bible! Then I got married. I understand why Paul said it was better to remain Single! LOL Now, I have learned in the midst of a teen (when we have my step-daughter), a toddler, & a baby – I get a little here & a little there. I miss ALL the time I spent w/ the Lord when I was single!! For there is a season for everything!!
Blessings!!
April 15, 2008 at 9:10 pm
First of all, the anti-Christ won’t just be opposed to Christians. My understanding is that NO religion would be acceptable. Therefore, for so many of you to say “Obama is a Muslim, and is probably the anti-Christ” is ridiculous. As devout as many Muslims are, do you think they would put anyone above Allah? How ridiculous. Like Christians are the only religious believers who can be true to their faith.
Secondly, the person above who said, “Obama may not be the anti-Christ, but he’s anti-white” is probably the only person here who admitted the true fear here. “Oh no! What if a black man becomes president? He’ll treat all the whites like we’ve been treating the blacks! We must FLEE!”
Take a deep breath. Relax. I think the fact that Obama is black AND white makes him a great candidate. He can see both sides, and react with compassion to the HUMAN race.
As for all of these visions, and clammy feelings, etc. that are defended as “discernment”, are you sure you’re not just having panic attacks? Seriously, the panic attack thing was just a joke, but I still feel that it’s a religious snobbery that you guys are exhibiting. God loves YOU so much, YOU are getting visions, YOU have the truth about Senator Obama. YOU are the ones who cannot be fooled. YOU are special. As someone wrote on another site similar to this one, “Anti-Christ will fool everyone.” Everyone but you, right? Senator Obama is a guy running for President. He has the right to do so. Is he loved by his supporters? Yes…but not everyone supports him.
Is he a good speaker? Absolutely, but he can still put his foot in his mouth. Does he have charisma? Yes, and I for one am thankful that he uses that charisma to try to convince America that we need to work together. That we need to take care of the poor, and the sick…wait a minute…that sounds like someone else I know!
And just for the record, I’ve shaken Senator Obama’s hand, too. It happened at a rally, where we happened to end up in front of a stage where “someone from the Obama campaign was going to speak.” It turned out to be Obama himself. Right away, people pressed in because they all wanted to say, “Hey, I shook his hand!” My three kids and I started getting pressed against the gate, and Senator Obama saw us. He had a look of genuine concern in his eyes as he reached out to touch my baby’s shoulder because she was crying. He said, with kindness, “Oh, you have a baby! Are you okay?” I said, “No, we’re getting squished!” He stepped back, trying to be heard above the crowd, and urged everyone to stop pushing. “PLEASE FOLKS, IF YOU COULD JUST STOP PUSHING! THERE’S A BABY UP HERE!” There was no phoniness involved. I can only assume that, as a father himself, he saw the difficult situation we were in, and acted to help us. He was being moved along very quickly by the Secret Service (who could not have cared less about our situation), and he still stopped long enough to attempt to help.
I believe that he is actually a decent man who sometimes makes mistakes, but is really trying to be the inspiration for millions to work together for a better place for all of us.
April 15, 2008 at 9:16 pm
And for the record, I’m a Christian. While I don’t agree with everything in the Left Behind series, I’ve read it. I’ve read “The Late, Great Planet Earth.” I’ve read Revelations. Those are my credentials, if anyone needs them. I pray several times a day. So, this is not an atheist, liberal, evil person defending the anti-Christ kind of post. Okay, well, I am a liberal as I try to follow the example of the Saviour.
April 16, 2008 at 2:13 am
Lindsey,
Your sincere seeking after Christ is very admirable. For all those who seek him…HE WILL be found. Draw close to HIM and HE WILL draw close to you. I know God must not be through with you yet, as he is speaking to you through dreams. Continue to ignite the fire of His Love for you. For truly no one can fathom the depth of His love! Blessings to you and your family.
Brigitta,
First, I would like to say that ALL people are loved by God. The word says….”some say God does not speak, but he does speak, sometimes in one way, sometimes in another”. He is like the wind and he speaks most often in a still small voice. If we are still and seek him with our whole heart, WE WILL hear Him. Snobbery? Hardly. I am the first to say that I am a wretched sinner. There is nothing good in me apart from Christ. Snobbery is thinking we are great and in some way deserving of what we have. If Christ can find me, he can find anyone. Remember Jesus, the good shepard. He left the 99 sheep to find the 1 that was lost. He loves all people that much..even Obama. He died for “the one” that we may know HIM and His love for us. Please know the character of Christ. He is good!!
Second, I believe love is the best representation of Our Father we have. We can have signs and wonders and miracles and prophesies…but if we have not love…we have nothing.
I would like to make a statement about Obama’s ethnicity. We are a very diverse family. I am actually a mother of a black or AA orphan. To say that I am bias is completely inaccurate. God’s word says, “Man looks at the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart.” It is the integrity of the man I seek to discern, nothing else.
As much as I have enjoyed the concern over Obama in this blog, I have to sign off. I just think the rampage against Brigitta was completely unnecessary. Brigitta, you have a right to your opinion and I do not feel the least bit threatened by you expressing those opinions.
Unfortunately, I would have to agree with another person who said, “you cannot be a liberal and a Christian.” Christ represents love and does not condone the “shedding of innocent blood” as in abortion. He also clearly opposes same sex marriages. Sodom was a great example. I pray that you will seek out truth and find it. There is only one way and there is grace for all to find that way! Please, find the way and the truth and the life…for we do not know what tomorrow will bring!
April 16, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Dear Brigitta
I acknowldege that you are sincere in your conviction/defense of BHO/AC. But I must disagree with you concerning some or your assertions of BHO/AC.
First and foremost, as far as the AC being against all religion, this is not only untrue, but quite frankly ignorant on your part. The AC’s main purpose is to replace God, and insert himself in place/above of God. Worshipping him (the AC)will be our only option. The AC will be the only “religion” acceptable, has a familiar ring to it does’nt it.
I understand that BHO is not a muslim, as we all know this would be to his detriment, he must profess the Christain faith. To do otherwise would be political suicide.
You are confusing two subjects, with your statement, “As devout as many muslims are, do you think they would put anyone above allah? How ridiculous. Like Christains are the only religion believers who can be true to their faith.”
Muslims, do not worship the God of the Bible, they worship a moon god deity, not the one true God. Being devout does not mean what you believe is right. I do not dispute their “being devout to what they believe”. I dispute that they worship my God, the God of the Bible. Should you not believe this goggle “Al Sina”. This will be all the education you need about what does Isalm believe.
I do not fear BHO for being black, I would gladly vote for Condalezza Rice or Colin Powell or Thomas Sowell or Alan Keyes. In fact I would/have work(ed) very hard on the campaign of anyone/one of these listed above.
For your comment,”He’ll treat all the whites like we’ve been treating the blacks”. Please tell me what you mean by that statement? I do not understand your words here. Just how have I been treating blacks? Do not presume to know how I behave toward anyone black/white/other. I take offense to that statement, as you do not know me or my heart!
As for “religous snobbery” comment, yes God loves me that much, yes I have dreams, yes I have the truth about BHO, yes I am special. You too could have all that and more, should you choose to accept Christ into your heart. Does this make me a snob, if that is your definition of it; then yes I am guilty as you charge. I cling to my faith, not because of bitterness but because of my desire to love God/Jesus without whom I would be cast adrift and fooled by the evils of the world.
Please tell me where in the Bible, that is states the AC will fool everyone? Through out time God has revealed himself to those he chooses, should you need confirmation of that I would suggest you read the Books of Daniel, Jeremaih, 1st and 2nd Kings, 1st Samuel, Ezekiel, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans and Revelations again! I am thinking of Lot and his family and God saving them from the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah. God does save those who serve him in truth.
Not everyone will be fooled, those who seek God, in truth, will know the truth, and, the truth will set you/me free!
You baffle me with the statement, “BHO is a guy running for President. He has the right to do so.” Is someone stopping him? If so share this information with the rest of us.
I am relieved that you had the opportunity to meet BHO and shake his hand. I will sleep better knowing that. But it changes not one whit who BHO is.
Peace to all!
April 16, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Concerning my last post, I would like to make one correction to paragraph five, “google Ali Sina” I am sorry for the misspoken words here. I got a little carried away and was careless in how I typed that. Dr. Sina, has issued a challenge for the muslim world. To those of you who are interested, you may find it at http://www.faithfreedom.org
A private note to Brigitte, I will be praying for you.
Peace to all!
April 16, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Well, here I am, back again. Brigitta IS my real name. I’m not the slightest bit afraid to post my opinions and put MY name on them.
I appreciate the thoughtful responses JC, and JesusisChrist. We disagree, but you were respectful to me, as I tried to be with my original post.
As for the rest of you. Can you tell me where in my post I called you names, offered insult, disrespect, etc.? And yet, in the 13 posts since mine, I was called names, and insulted in TEN of them. I must say, I’m ashamed of all you Christians who would speak gospel out of one side of your mouth, and spout hate for someone you’ve never met out of the other. How could you?
Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough in my first post. Regarding Muslims…they ARE devout, and most would NOT be willing to put anyone over Allah. I did not say that Allah is my GOd, or THE God. He is THEIR God, and they have just as much love and respect for what they believe as what Christians have for what they believe. Furthermore, Obama is not a Muslim, so it doesn’t matter anyway.
If you want to believe he is, that’s fine. I want to believe that drinking Diet Coke with every meal takes out all the calories, but that doesn’t make it true.
Regarding the religious snobbery comment I made…I stand by it. I will respond to JC who wrote, “Yes, God DOES love me that much.” You wrote very beautifully, and I respect you for it.
I agree that God does love us all very much, I agree that we are all special and unique. What I don’t agree with is the idea that only a few people out of 6 billion will have visions, or get clammy hands, etc. I don’t think the anti-Christ will make ANY mistakes, though. He or She will be slick, perfect, etc. Obama is not perfect. He hasn’t even got half the population of the US supporting him, at least not yet, so how is he SO seemingly perfect that he could be the AC? Furthermore, I think the anti-Christ will be white…pure white as the driven snow. Otherwise, Heavenly Father knows, the majority of the world would never follow him. I think only a white person could pull off the kind of following that the anti-Christ will have.
Look how many racist comments were made after my first post if you don’t believe me.
JC, in my post, I said that some guy on another site stated that the anti-Christ will fool everyone. That is not my personal opinion. Scripturally, he/she won’t fool everyone as there will be many martyrs during the time of tribulation. Also, sorry if I offended you with my “How we’ve been treating them…” comment. Being from Texas, I see racism alive and well just about every day, and the remark was meant more for the type of person who would tell me to “go to some negroid” site.
Sadly, there are alot of people with this attitude.
To others who doubted my Christianity, or told me that reading Revelations does not make me a Christian. I never said it did. I offered that information to assure you that I’m not some “never picked up a Bible in my life” kind of poster. What makes you a Christian is believing that Christ died for your sins, and then came back to life. It’s believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
I believe those things, have repented, and been baptized, ergo, I am a Christian.
To others, you can be a liberal and be a Christian. I am proof of that.
Jesus saved a woman who was about to be stoned for being “taken in adultery”. He saved her life.
So, maybe Jesus doesn’t support the Death Penalty because He died once, for all? Is that a liberal idea? Yes. ESPECIALLY at the time He lived on Earth.
Jesus associated with tax collectors and other not so savory characters. When criticized for it, He told them He didn’t come to help the healthy. He came for the ill.
Liberal idea? ABSOLUTELY.
Where He stood on abortion. I’m sure He’s opposed to it. POSITIVE He’s opposed to it. But I also believe that He understands the hearts of women caught in unbearable and heartbreaking circumstances. He is the judge, not me.
I only know that I respect the lives of the pregnant women,too, and don’t want them bleeding out in a dirty back room somewhere. They are my sisters; they are my daughters; they are my friends. Like it or not, You can’t force a woman to have a baby she doesn’t want. You can’t MAKE her want it. And sometimes, the conditions these children would be born into would be so much worse. Yes, it sounds bad. But I’ve worked with children who were raped by their Dads, and brutally mistreated, and I can tell you personally, that these children suffer horribly every day. Again, I’m just going to say that I’m not the judge. I care about ALL people, and I understand that I’m not the person to best judge someone’s heart, circumstances, or decisions.
Gay rights? I don’t think anyone should be denied human rights. Again, I’m not the judge, and last I read Matthew 7, neither were any of you.
HAVIN FUN, I tried to look up labotomy in the dictionary, but it wasn’t there. Then I realized that you meant “LObotomy”, but had simply misspelled it. Might want to hit that spellcheck sometime, my friend. Yes, I know what lobotomy means, but no, never had one. I’m holding off until I just can’t take it anymore. Afterwards, I think I will have a great deal more peace.
As for making men misogynists, you could be right about that. It would certainly explain my love life. 🙂 You see, I can even laugh at myself. You might want to give that a try sometime, too.
The bottom line is, you guys can, and will believe whatever you want. I posted because I have a different opinion, and no one informed me that wasn’t acceptable to you prior to my post. I think you do need to be WAY more careful about the way you represent yourselves, and especially Christ. If you only love the people who agree with you, but hate, insult, and degrade the ones who don’t, well, as Jesus said, “How does that make you any better than the pagans?”
Sincerely, Brigitta
April 16, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Alright, I do have one last comment. I just re-read the post by “Street Smart” who criticized me for supposedly not using my real name.
I’m so glad that you chose to use “Street Smart” as your username. It is appropriate in a way that “Book Smart” would not have been.
Couldn’t resist. Sorry.
April 16, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Whoops, one more.
J. Lucas, you are a smart kid, and you definitely have my respect. I think you will be a wonderful pastor someday. Someday, the loving spirit you have could help save lives. Thank you for your comments.
April 16, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Brigitta,
Thanks for your responses, let us agree to disagree on somethings, (i.e. BHO being the AC).
I am very sorry you took such a beating with the other posts.
Quite often when we find ourselves playing devil’s advocate, excuse the pun, we get punched around for it. :0)
Peace to all!
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April 17, 2008 at 1:49 am
brigetta where in the world did you come from? i remember reading your post that said that because he was an halfrican he would better know how to deal with both sides negroe and caucasian then all of a sudden you change your tune and say he will probably be white you dont know what you are talking about. i hope you leave the site you are just downright stupid. and by the way you can not be a liberal and be a christian. whether you bleed in a closet or in an opperating room it makes no difference you are committing murder. the mother should have kept her legs closed. or she should put the child up for adoption.you are a total idiot and you are not saved if you were you would not make those ass nine statements. also did you ever hear about THE UNITED NEGROE COLLEDGE FUND. you had better call them and tell them to change thier name. do us all a favor and leave.
April 17, 2008 at 1:51 am
brigitta get off the site were sick of your childish remarkd and ill informed manner.the best part of you ran down your fathers leg.
April 17, 2008 at 1:54 am
brigotta or whatever your name is you had better read about the definition of liberal its in the encyclopedia when you find it thier will be a picture of a smiling wide eyed negro rigt beside the meaning
April 17, 2008 at 2:06 am
brigoona bigassa bigheada bigmoutha brigitta change your name i dont want to be booksmart because i am not i cant even put the puncuality and periods in the correct spots but guess what you dumb broad because of my street smats and common sense something you dont have that is why i guarantee you dont make over 25,000 a year you probably clean toilets for a living i happen to be a millionare and can buy whatever i likr but you cant even buy smarts cause you dont have any
April 17, 2008 at 2:50 am
Brigitta,
I don’t know wether we are in the end times or not. I don’t know wether BHO is the AC or not. I know that it came to me one day(above) that he does fit the profile. Which is how I stumbled accross this site.
I also struggle w/ undertanding how a Christian can vote for a man who supports abortion & gay rights. I might add not only does he support abortion BUT he also voted AGAINST providing medical care for babies who actually survive abortion!! If you do some research – in IL, they actually were doing that in hospitals until a nurse was able to report enough about it that it has temporarily been stopped. She lost her job. They had rocking chairs where they rocked babies literally to their ‘deaths’ because they denied them medical care. That’s what BHO supports.
Norma M (can’t pronounce or even remember how to spell last name – you can google it) is the gal who was responsible for legalizing abortion in the Roe vs. Wade case. She is now a Christian & it working so hard to get this over turned. She worked in abortion clinic for over 20 years. She said the NUMBER ONE reason for abortion is NOT what you would think – it’s for GENDER SELECTION!! That’s the number one reason. So, your having a boy & you wanted a girl so let’s kill the baby. She also said NOT one – NOT one girl ever walked out the same. Something gone from their spirits.
The gay marriage issue is very very very passionate goal to work my hardest against. And this is why. I’m a bi-product of a gay home. My mom is gay. I was raised from 5 years old on in a homosexual home. I KNOW FIRST HAND WHAT IT DOES TO CHILDREN & IT IS DISHEARTENING!!! I don’t care what studies they have that supposedly children are not affected – THEY ARE! I have 2 uncles who are gay. My god parents are gay. My dad’s second wife was gay. I have lived my whole life around gay people. And this I must say. They are some of the absolutely MOST caring people & hard working people. I love all of them in my life. I love my mom. But I struggled & every night wished for a ‘normal’ home w/ a mother & father. I had conversations with my god parents every chance I got asking them were they born that way or was a choice. My gay friends – I had the same conversations with them. I struggled w/ it every single day of my life. How could I possibly struggle w/ something that I was raised with as ‘normal’ & ‘born that way’? That is because the Lord does place things in our hearts. I became a Christian 7 years ago. That was the FIRST thing that I asked the Lord. Are people born gay – what do YOU have to say about that? I don’t want to know what society has to say about it. I don’t want to know what shrinks have to say about it. I want to know what YOU say about it. So, I went to His Word. And it was sooo clear to me that the Lord HATES – STRONGLY HATES homosexuality. When the Lord is listing ALL the sins & their consequences (I don’t have my Bible right in front of me tonight so I can get scripture if you would like later) – Homosexuality is the ONLY sin that he list after that is an ABOMINATION! Which, is strongly hate. So, I thought okay Lord, if you strongly hate homosexuality – and you created ALL things then where in the world is this coming from? I was then led to Exodus International where I read dozens upon dozens upon dozens of testimonies of those who have come out of the lifestyle. And I understood.
With that being said. It is the sin of homosexuality that the Lord hates…not the person. The closer I get to Him the more I realize how sinful I am. I’m a sinner. We are all sinners. My mom will tell you that I stand firm on this issue. I have told my mom that the USA will follow suit w/ Canada & there will be a day when she visits me in jail for saying she was not born gay. But she will also tell you that I love her more than the world & that she has NEVER felt condemnation from me…NEVER (her own words). That’s what we are fighting against. The hate crimes legislature which is intended to be for tolerance for ALL EXCEPT for Christians. And for gay marriage —- CHILDREN NEED PROTECTED. My mom’s first partner she was with until I was 23 years old – now a Christian – has renounced the lifestyle. My one uncle – now a Christian – has renounced the lifestyle. It happens.
Human rights – gays rights? Absolutely. Two different things here. My mom & her partner – they have domestic insurance. My mom’s insurance takes care of her partner. My mom’s will? Well, that’s taken care of, too. Her partner will be taken care of before we are. Medical & Power Attorney – my mom’s partner has that, too. My mom’s job – well, I would have a problem if she were fired for her lifestyle BUT she is extremely successful & her job is protected. Gay people do have rights. What we are talking about is Hate Crimes Legislature which is intended to do nothing more than shut Christians up AND protecting marriage as between a Man & Woman.
Liberal? Conservative? Democrat? Republican? I believe in Vertical Politics. I don’t care who the person is – I care about what they represent. I could never vote for a man who will not protect our children or the sanctity of marriage. And I believe as Christians – it is our duty to vote for people who do represent biblical principals –
April 17, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Brigitta,
I went to bed last night thinking about my response. And it was driving me nuts that I couldn’t remember Norma’s last name so I had to look it up this morning. Norma McCorvey. She came to my church & I was able to hear her speak but it was 6 years ago. I still remember her testimony. I did give some misinformation though…Gender Selection isn’t the number one reason in the USA although it is EXTREMELY high – very shocking that this is occurring here but it is. I think that’s why I remembered it being number one reason is because I thought that happens in China NOT here? The NUMBER ONE reason for abortions here in the USA is “birth control”. She said there are many who have 3+ abortions!!
The least reason is for horrific tragedies as you mentioned. Though I have never gotten pregnant from a rape – I was raped when I was a young woman first on my own. I know the pain, guilt, & shame that goes with that. I was not a Christian at the time so I don’t know what hope I could have clinged to had I become pregnant through that incident. But I also know that even back then I could not have had an abortion because I still had value for ‘life’ & I just wouldn’t haven’t been able to go through that. But, I still carried the pain & the guilt & the shame for many years until Jesus was able to bring healing in my life. Here’s what I know though – God created ALL things – even those babies that are conceieved out of horrific terrible tragedies for women. For some reason, God had a purpose for that little dude or dudette. Abortion is still murder no matter the circumstance. God can take ANY situation & turn it for GOOD for those who believe in Him!! It is not our right to choose when to end a life. We are supposed to defend those who cannot speak for themselves. I hope I’m not comming across mean. I want to illistrate that the Lord can help these women who have been through this. It is God’s will when these babies are created. And for us to say it is not God’s will would be to say that He is NOT the creator of ALL things. This is why many of my friends who pray at abortion clinics & have SAVED MANY MANY babies from abortion have also been able to share the LOVE of Jesus & lead them to the Lord. Our mission should be sharing the LOVE of Jesus not justifying one evil crime for another evil crime.
There is only one who has said hateful comments to you (under the pretense of many names). You can come & voice your opinion & thoughts. We are just voice our opinion & thoughts even though we disagree.
Blessings,
Lindsey
April 17, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Okay folks lets try to keep on topic, we are not here to call each other names and behave badly. The only way to have a true discourse on the subject of BHO being the AC, is to allow everyone, without fear of being called names, to have a say. I in no way agree with most of Brigitta says, but should I call her names and be nasty? I think not, I would have missed a chance to help her see how and why see is incorrect in her thinking. We all know you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.
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April 18, 2008 at 1:51 pm
tru temper,
You asked what will I do now that you have called me a name? Turn the other cheek, as my Lord did and continues to do! It is of no importance/concern that you called me a name, you may in fact call me what you will. You know the whole sticks and stones thing. I have found that name calling only has power when the person being called name gives it power, I refuse to give your words power!
You say you have a right to call Brigitta names, as that is what Jesus did. You are correct Jesus did do this, the difference is that he did it out of love.
You asked why no one commented on the “race mixing thing”, why should we answer it; as apparently you already have an answer satisfies your mind/heart.
RS, you are funny LOL.
April 19, 2008 at 7:32 am
Just had to make a comment on the race mixing thing- I read a post saying that in biblical times you were supposed to stay in tribe… I wanted to make two points. First, if you read this in depth (not just one verse out of a whole book) you will see this is referring to staying within your religion not race i.e. christians shouldn’t be with nonbelievers etc. Secondly, Moses himself married an Ethiopian woman (not his race) and was heavily criticized for it. Two people in particular were very hard on him and do you know what God told the people about it? He told them to mind their own business in today’s terms.
I have read through this entire board and I see a lot of hateful things on it. Namely the fact that the majority of us on this board claim to be Christian but yet we are being nasty towards each other. I just think that if you are going to have an opinionated discussion(what this is) then you should do it without blasting people. I will probably get blasted for posting this but I just felt that as a Christian myself I should say my piece b/c if I was looking at this board as a nonbeliever and saw some of the ways “Christians” on here were treating each other it would only give me more ammunition against Christianity.
April 19, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Thank you nerdbynature what you said was well said!
essential, how do you know that tru temper spoke out of love? You say that tru was speaking the truth. The truth is subjective to the individual doing the speaking. Should tru like to rebuke Brigitta using God’s Word then fine, but to speak to her like that was unnecessary. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. No one on this board qualifies to be her judge or anyone elses. Leave the judgement of her sin to God. It is our duty as Christians to help her see why she is wrong in her thinking, not to judge her for it.
As far as me leaving this site, not a chance, I am enjoying myself far too much to ever leave!
Peace to all!
April 19, 2008 at 7:57 pm
never wrong- by reading the bible I have learned that the different tribes had different faiths. For example some of them believed you should worship animals or other Gods which tells me they had different religions. God sent his followers to try to teach them they were wrong about who they were worshiping. And I am not a dude, I am a woman. (And just a side note- in college my husband was a religion major and I myself took religion classes while there and in those classes this is one of the topics we studied about in depth. ) I am sorry that you cannot handle a discussion better than you do. It seems like you get so angry just because someone puts their two cents in- this is a discussion not a brawl. And by the way- the word Christian may have come along after the crucifiction but there were many followers of Jesus that worshiped God. (Noah was a follower of God long before Jesus was born, let alone crucified).
April 20, 2008 at 3:05 am
i remember when i was a teenager and visit my friends in little italy we would wait for black people to come thru the nieghborhood and throw rocks at the cars and evern turn the cars over sometimes. and yell nigger go home. OF course this was not the right behaviour and jesus would not like it but i brought it up for a reason. You see the italian culture wants to keep its own identity. in other words the reason the blacks were not wanted was because they wanted to prove they could go anywhere they wanted and of course they could. But thier were conseqences to that drive thru. The whole point is that from the experiance of the difference between the cultures and traditionns i can say that the tribes were not supposed to mix. RECENTLY i have noticed how much the blacks have been copying the italian culture and taditions especially the mafia. They wear shirts and clothes with gotti and al capone on them and try to say they are the real gangsters when they are not they simply copy most of all the italians culture which is the clothing, hats shoes dress and appearence which if you look at all the old movies you willsee that its the italians who started the mafia and mafia style dress. they even tried to do a movie and copy italians in american gangster in which it portrays a black man as a big shot and pups him up to be tougher than the anerican mafia which is a joke. i know for a fact that paul castelano would have nothing to do with drugs. that is why the italians had nothing to do with harlem.Remember in the movie the godfather they said let the niggers have the drug business because they were animals anyway. if you dont believe it go rent the movie. heres the bottom line i know and most people with any kowledge about the mafia know no blacks allowed you have to have italian blood and then you can if asked get in or connected. For this reason long long time ago the mafia tribe would not have allowed blacks to mix with thier woman. i used this mafia thing to bring the point across.to this day the black man tries and wants to be italian. they like our style. remember any of you that have been to italy know the dress style. alligator shoes colorfull suits. its all made in italy not africa. the black mans culture is i spear a hut a loin cloth a drum and spear. they still have that now in africa so do you think its a different tribe. do you think they are the same, if you do you have a mental problem. and guess what an honest italian will still say he does not want them in the nieghborhood because the tribe is not the same. more on this subject later waiting for a response from italian from any little italy in the us. they know what i am talking about if they have the strength to say it.
CIAO
April 20, 2008 at 8:54 am
okay i must have missed something in what i posted- i’m not sure what all this bashing is about women being submissive but I don’t recall saying anything in my post that was even remotely related to women and men and their rightful places in the home. also, i’m neither gay nor am I liberal and I definitely do not support obama in any way shape or form. i do not support abortion nor do i support the death penalty. i also do not think women should be preachers. yes i am married to a black man but that has nothing to do with why I posted in the first place. I posted because someone on the board was under the misconception that it was against the bible to interracially mix. by the way i think obama is the antichrist so no i hate to bust all the big bubbles around here but i nor my husband are obama supporters. thats all i have to say so you all can go back to bashing me the way you so called “good christians” are doing!
April 20, 2008 at 8:58 am
Oh and someone said how could people of different tribes talk to each other due to language differences- in the first 5 books of the bible there was plenty of communication between tribes, all you have to do is read it!
April 21, 2008 at 1:08 pm
There are some racist people on this site. It really saddens me. I fear that the speculation of some people on this site about BHO being the antichrist, if proven false, will pave the way for the true antichrist to arise. You guys will be the equivalent to the boy who cried wolf. By the time the real thing happens, nobody will be listening anymore.
April 21, 2008 at 5:49 pm
i am not a fundamentalist christian or scholar of the bible, but i do believe in prophesy both from the bible and from other scholars like nostradamus and others. i believe some people see and feel things that others don’t. i have been spooked by obama since i first saw him. there is a feeling that i get from him that is very strong and bad. i can’t even watch him on tv anymore because the feeling is so strong.
anyway, the reason i have come in here to write is i have found this to be a great discussion.
i hear people say that the antichrist is going to come from the mideast or in the left behind series they were predicting the antichrist to come from europe. where do people get this. i thought in revelation it talks of two beasts. one comes from the sea and the other from the earth. how is that europe or the mideast?
i find it scary how he has this cult following and also his relationship with ray mabus of mississippi as his campaign counsel on mideast relationships and mabus’s affiliation with RAND. mabus is the name that nostradamus predicts as the third antichrist. many years ago when mabus who was appointed by clinton was looked at as a possible nostradamus antichrist, but back then he had no potential power. with obama he may bring himself into a power position if obama is elected. the first beast comes from the sea, (hawaii) the second beast comes from the earth (mainland usa). i know it is a stretch but maybe obama is the first beast. maybe he is the “in” for ray mabus. poor ray mabus, the guy just has the wrong last name!
as far as him being christian, i think obama will tell people what they want to hear to be elected. he is that type of person, just as carter and nixon were. i wouldn’t even put it past him to foresee that he needed to have a relationship with christianity to get to office and developed that. i am not sure why a muslim would go to catholic school and then be in a rather fundamentalist christian church. the three just do not jive. none of them get a long too well! i think obama followers will find themselves disappointed if he is elected as history repeats and we have seen candidates who promise change and hope without specifics on how they will reach this goal usually being a big hope and change bust.
i also have a question for the rapture. anyway, it seems to me that people are just predicting that obama could be the antichrist, i mean no one knows this for certain as he has done nothing to really reveal proof of that. so couldn’t people predict or have their opinion about it, the rapture then happens later and then there is revealing proof. i don’t believe in the rapture, but i also don’t see how it affects people thinking that obama may be the antichrist.
April 21, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Jim,
You are the first person that I have ran into that knows about the Ray Mabus thing. When I had my first dream about Obama I began to learn about him, and, was startled when I read about Mabus, as I too had read Nostradamus many years ago while in high school. God pointed me in the direction of reading his work(s) and that particular quatrain has stuck with me for the past 25 years.
There are many coincidental things concerning BHO.
April 22, 2008 at 1:04 am
mrs. lil your sitting here saying that other people can’t be christians because they are races (I think you mean racist). How can you be saying that your any better when your using all of that profanity. And why does everyone have to constantly put everyone else down, it’s possible to have an intelligent conversation about something like BHO being the anti-christ without putting people down and constant profanity.
April 22, 2008 at 1:09 am
mrs. lil since I did try and correct you I will also fight with you. I think it is completely unnecessary that people get on here and make racist comments. First of all why does it matter what ethnic someone is. And secondly why can’t you call people by a proper name like African-American instead of racist terms like those used earlier “negro” for example. Just because their skin is different doesn’t give you any right to segregate them because of that.
April 22, 2008 at 1:14 am
I also have a question for J.C. or Jim. I have seen your last posts and noticed that you mentioned Nostradamus. Now I’m not very familiar with much of anything from Nostradamus but I do think a lot of the things that he “fore told” were pretty vague. I’ve heard people say that he predicted the events on Sept. 11 with something along the lines of “A great tower will fall” (I probably paraphrased that) but that is very vague. I was just wondering if either of you could tell anything of Nostradamus that you say points to BHO as the anti-christ. You can leave it in a message on here, but I might not check back for a couple of days. Thanks everyone.
April 22, 2008 at 1:22 am
For you who like to quote scripture and twist it for your own ends, you should read the rest of Ephesians chapter 5 beginning with verse 25 as it pertains to husbands and how they should regard their wives. And women don’t ‘submit’ to just any man, it’s to their husbands.
Anyhow, I’ve read many comments here which are hateful and condescending — and some of you are claiming to be Christians? Oh, really now? And I am a Christian, and Jesus leads me to love people, not call them names and be ugly and unkind toward those who don’t see exactly eye to eye with me. Shame on you if you’re doing that — not being a good example for Christ — no wonder everyone is embracing that new age crap, and how can we lead others to Christ when behaving in that manner?
April 22, 2008 at 1:24 am
AWaytoTruth,
I agree with you completely, and that’s exactly what I was trying to say.
April 22, 2008 at 1:25 am
yes, and amen, Jesse.
April 22, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Jesse,
Thank you for your recent posts. As to your questions about Nostradamus, yes I have read his quatrains and his letters to his son and various heads of state that ruled during his lifetime. Yes, you are partially correct in your statement that the predictions seem “vague”. They are at least on the first read through. It is difficult reading material, so open to interpretation, as is the Bible and many other old/ancient texts. I read Nostradamus, as God had instructed me to do so, while I will not pretend to understand why God would have it so. I know that when I read the material, I was in constant prayer while doing so. I do remember the Mabus quatrain. The quatrain that I speak of is Century II number 62 (if memory serves me correctly). It goes something like this: (“Mabus then will soon die; there will come Of people and beasts a horrible rout: Then suddenly one will see vengence, Hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run”). This quatrain in and of its self does not make much sense, to get the full jest of it says it must be read in context. As for your question concening the events of September 11, I do not recall anything specifically about “a great tower will fall” there are references to the “new great city and it’s destruction” though. Please keep an open mind, yet a prayerful spirit should you read/investigate Nostradamus and his writings. Just a side note the letter(s) to his son Cesar and others should be read, I think they give a better insight as to who Nostradamus was and what he truly believed and thought. They certainly put into context the political, social, and religious order of the day. The Mabus Project is an excellent online source for learning about Nostradamus and his writings. A note of caution you will also find a plethora of other stuff very dubious in nature.
Lest I forget, God can/does/will use whatever He would like to use to get through to us. I do believe that I was inspired/lead by God to read Nostradamus, and that in doing so He will use that to His glory.
We must all remember that Lucifer was once an angel of God; and that he does possess certain information (knowlege) known only to the angelic realm. Lucifer is privy to some of God’s plan for humankind and will/does act in accordance to thwart God and His plan. This knowledge/information allows him (Lucifer) to work against God and His plan. Lucifer knows that his time to fool and decieve is short and that it becomes shorter with each passing day.
Peace to all!
April 22, 2008 at 8:30 pm
No actually I’m straight and have a girlfriend who I am planning on getting married too. What have I said that would make you think I was homosexual?
April 22, 2008 at 8:35 pm
JC, thanks for answering my questions and with the thing about the great tower or something I was just quoting a friend of mine. But thanks again and I think I will look into some of Nostradamus’ writings a little bit. Like you said though I will keep in constant prayer while doing so.
April 23, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Ok yes African-Americans do use the word negro even in that title you used (UNCF) but that is different than comming on here and using talking directly to someone who is of a darker skin tone. And as far as the free speech thing yes you do have a right to free speech, but who ever is in charge of this site has the right to delete what ever is on here that he doesn’t like. That doesn’t necessarily mean that he should I think all the posts should be left up. Maybe there were circumstances under which he felt he had to remove it. Maybe he was offended by the comments or someone else was offended by the comments, either way it’s his choice to get rid of the comments.
April 24, 2008 at 12:06 am
My mom is a devout born-again Christian who’s been going on about this Barack – Antichrist thing for months. She drew her own conclusion from the Bible as well as listening to sermons on TV and now nothing can dissuade her. I was raised without religion (am now 20) and still find it hard to believe, but I have to admit that what she says has been creeping me out lately. With all the prophecies and what not and how everything is lining up exactly how the Bible said it would, or so she says. I have a couple questions that maybe someone could give me their views on, I would rather not start an arguement here though. I was just thinking and I know that much about religion or the power that this “Antichrist” has over people, but my mom has been talking about people taking on the mark of the beast and being damned from that point on. She says the mark will be a barcode tattoo which will be used to identify us and for purchasing anything. Here is the problem I see: Not everyone will be willing to take that mark, for religious reasons or not. Doesn’t it seem rather extreme to execute them or imprison them for not doing so? People wouldn’t really stand by and watch that happen over something so small and insignificant right? Supposedly if you make it through the 7 years and Christ comes back and you haven’t taken the mark of the beast then you will be alright, so wouldn’t the Antichrist WANT to force you to take the mark? I just don’t see people letting that happen, total control over our lives in this country. It doesn’t seem like something people would roll over and take.. And another question: It says that the first 3 and a half years will be good, and the last 3 and half will be the hellish part. A term lasts for 4 years right? Wouldn’t that leave 6 months of enough bad behavior in order for people to be willing to vote him out? Or will he have so much infulence that it won’t matter? Thank you in advance to anyone who care’s to answer this for me, I just can’t get over these thoughts… and again, I just don’t see how such drastic changes can happen all in 10 years at max. I try to be open to everything but I’m the kind of person who needs logical explanations if I’m really going to be convinced. I suppose if I don’t end up believing in God before all this happens, I will know for sure when all this horrible stuff starts happening in a few years. Then I’d have to be martyred if I wanted to go to heaven according to my mom.. Seems there’s no way of winning..
Haley
April 24, 2008 at 2:41 am
First, Kudos to A Way To Truth for leading Tracy to God.
Secondly, for all of those who say “Obama has never done anything to be considered evil, so why do you think he’s the Anti-Christ”…the bible tells us to be watchful so that we are not deceived by the Anti-Christ, because he will seem to be so good and have only our best interest at heart. In fact, many will believe that he IS God. How does this apply to Obama? Many people, even reporters, have referred to his entire campaign as having certain “messianic” qualities. Besides just being generally creepy, there are a great many Christians and even some professed non-believers who have voiced the possibility of him being the Anti-Christ. I believe that he is, and furthermore, I believe that GOD is pressing on my heart and mind to spread the word, so that others won’t be deceived.
April 24, 2008 at 2:46 am
Btw, Ryan, I’m not racist. I’m Biracial, too.
April 24, 2008 at 10:43 am
I can’t say I believe Obama is the Anti-Christ, but he could be. Who knows for sure? All I know is that when I see that smooth talking, big-eared creepy guy I pray he doesn’t get elected. I don’t like him. By the way, I’m not a racist. My son is married to a beautiful christian african american that I adore. I’m looking at the MAN Obama. What has he ever done? And look at his Pastor…talk about scary. You want someone like Obama leading this country? Or crazy Hillary. That loon party has run this country into the ground with their lack of morals and accountability. I call them granola because they’re all fruits and nuts. No standards. They want children to rise up against their parents. So liberal they make me want to puke. Obama. If you want him for a leader go find yourself an island somewhere with the rest of your crazy party and have your own sinful, lustful, evil, satan worshipping, God hating, people hating, self loving, cruds.
April 24, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Haley,
I read what you posted and figured I would respond since no one else has. Now the whole thing about the mark of the beast is just a way pretty much for you to sign your soul away to the devil. Some people say that they think it will be a tattoo type thing that you will be required to get. I however think that with all the technological advances that we have today the mark will be a type of micro-chip embedded into your skin. Not unlike those that you put under your pets skin so if they get lost they can be identified. Now no one will be able to buy, or sell any goods (food, computers, T.V’s, etc.) without having this mark. I also think the way they will get people to get the mark is by getting rid of paychecks. Instead of getting paid in money, you will have so much credit (Kind of like a credit card) and that credit will be stored on your micro-chip thing in your body. Now you said that people wouldn’t stand by and let other people be killed just because they wouldn’t take the mark. By the time this starts happening the Anti-Christ is going to be all powerful. He is going to be pretty much the Dictator of the world. He will rise to power through a governmental office (like president) and through that he will have many “good” ideas and be very charismatic. Now because of this he will gain popularity throughout the world and become like I said the World Dictator. I think that’s about everything that I can answer, at least for right now. I hope that helped answer your questions.
April 25, 2008 at 8:36 pm
still right now I can’t say that I fully believe barak obama is the anti-christ. I could see where he possibly could be, but I could see where he possibly couldn’t be also. I’m just gonna sit back and see where God allows things to go.
April 26, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Jesse,
Might I suggest you read the following, it may not set your mind as to BHO being the AC but it will help give you a perspective that you may not have been familiar with “The Koran: Testimony of Antichrist” by Joseph Adam Pearson, Ph.D. It is an online Bible study of the subject of the AC. I found it to be quite educational and informative. You can actually print it out so that you may study it in detail.
Peace to all!
April 26, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Jesse,
On a side note about the above post, while I do not agree with some of Dr. Pearson’s calculations/hypothesis, it is definately worth the study time.
April 27, 2008 at 7:36 am
okay i believe that were not supposed to hate anyone…so hwy is evryone saying “i hate obama” yes i dislike him but im saying dislike and umm yea i dont know how anyone could not think that obama isnt that anit-christ …if anyone know’s pzl reply to this b/c i just dont seem to undersatnd there is penty of reason’s that give’s him way of being the aint christ
April 27, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Thank you for responding Jesse and yes, you did help a good bit. I’ll keep in mind everything that you mentioned as now it seems like there’s much more to be wary of..as if we needed anymore with the way things already are. Thanks again and take care,
Haley
April 28, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Xena fan, you just have to research for yourself, you have to pray, etc. I don’t believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. The last time I posted here, I had alot of “Christians” get very mean and nasty. You can’t let other people tell you what to think, though. Read and pray. That’s what you need to do. I can tell you that, from my personal research…I’ve discovered that Christians haven’t always thought the Anti-Christ would be a person, really. For a long time, they thought it would be a Pope, then the Catholic church. For awhile it was thought that the anti-Christ would be an organization. The idea of AC being one person is relatively recent, and I think the popularity of the Left Behind series has turned the search for the AC into a kind of hysteria. There are alot of good people on this website, there are others who spout nothing but hatred, ignorance, and fear. Nobody on this site has the answers, myself included. Your Heavenly Father does. So the best advice I could give you would be to ask Him. Have a good week.
April 28, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Xena fan, one more thing…there are not plenty of things that give Obama away as the anti-Christ. In fact, there’s absolutely NOTHING that gives him away as that. I’ve seen Christians resorting to numerology to prove it…Nostradomus…etc. There is no PROOF, no EVIDENCE, no FACTS. Some of the people on this site have had dreams or feelings, but that’s what it is. I’m not going to say they haven’t had those experiences. Clearly they have. I have not. I know many other Christians who haven’t, who are, like I am, actively supporting Obama in his campaign. I believe he’s just a man. He has great quatlities, he has flaws. He’s just a man. People like him not because he casts a spell over us, but because we want a better country. We place a high value on hope and taking care of everyone. We want to be involved in making our country a better place. I don’t look at him like he’s the messiah, though. I don’t think he looks at himself that way, either. He’s said in speeches, “I can’t do this alone. WE have to do this together.” Anyway, like I said before, just pray. I just wanted to add that there is no proof against Obama. There are Christians on both sides of the aisle here, and that’s fine…After all, there are lots of different kinds of Christians, too.
April 28, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Brigitta,
Excuse me, Brigitta, I am going to have to take issue with your last couple of posts. Why would you make the following statement, “The idea of the AC being one person is relatively recent, and I think the popularity of the Left Behind series has turned the search for the AC into a kind of hysteria?”
The idea of “The idea of the AC being one person is relatively recent” is so not correct. The Bible warns us of many AC’s, should you need confirmation of that please read the following, Frist John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3, Second John 7. The spirit of the AC is timeless and transcends the boundaries that man applies, whether they be many or “the one”.
As far as “the search” for the AC, what does that mean exactly? The Bible warns us not to be deceived by the AC, we are to stand girded with the Word of God, ready to do battle at a moments notice, there is no search; God is preparing His army for the final confrontation between good and evil, Satan knows this. Now you do too!
Can you tell me why you support BHO? What has he said that is so different from any other politician? Can you tell me the type of change he speaks of? Can you tell me what sort of hope he brings that no one else does or can?
You speak that “We place a high value on hope and taking care of everyone. We want to be involved in making our country a better place” Can you honestly tell me that everyone who is clamoring to vote for BHO feels/thinks/believes that? Are these not what everyone, in there right mind, would want? So how is it that BHO is the only one that can deliver such things? Do you know how arrogant and ignorant all that sounds?
You are correct in your assessment that he is just a man, but so to has been/were a thousand politcians before him, what makes him different?
I have read BHO books and I have searched out who he is, and, I know within all my heart/mind/soul that he truly is the AC. I have done all of this without the, distraction of his pastor, his affiliations with criminals, the stupid remarks by his wife and a whole host of othere easy to read/hear garbage about the man. Have you done that? If not read his books, look at him without the rose colored glasses on. His “flaws” are more than apparent when you hold him to the Word of God to be tested! His stance on many issues do/can not relate my experience(s) as an American.
He is/will not (be) alone on the field of desolation and destruction, there are/will be many that stand with him! They but fulfill prophecy. Just because you do not want it to be so does not mean it is not true!
I have not met the man as you have, I have not had him “save” me from a crushing crowd as you have, but do remember this, of course he saved you that day, he needs your vote!
As far as the “hysteria” remark. I am unsure about the “Left Behind” critique you have given, I have never been lead, by God, to read that series. I am not hysterical about BHO being the AC, BHO is who he is, nothing more nothing less.
Peace to all!
April 29, 2008 at 4:53 pm
PS Brigitta,
Have your read BHO’s entire “Blueprint for Change”. If not read it, for therein lies the decitful heart/soul of the man BHO. This “booklet of deception” provides all the insight one needs to discern who/what BHO is. He is at worst the AC and at best a socialist.
April 29, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Yikes to either!
May 1, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Jesus and the early Christian Church were socialist.
May 1, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Huh?!
May 2, 2008 at 12:50 pm
I was watching my soaps and the thought of Barack obama the man who came from the East to the West to destroy came at me so fast that I started shaking! I had to email all the persons I knew not vote for him!
Nostradamus described him as dark,lanky and well spoken! Remember he will be powerful if he becomes president!
May 2, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Brigitta,
I have been pondering your last post. I mean no disrespect but you apparently do not know the meaning of the word socialist. I am going to give you the definition of the word socialist and then it’s root word socialism.
Socialist-one who advocates or practices socialism.
Socialism-1) any various economic or political theories advocation collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production or distribution of goods 2a) a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b)a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3) a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distingued by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.
Brigitta, I would like very much for you to please provide for me just where in the Bible that it says/advocates the above.
While you are at it you may want to read up on the time period in which Jesus lived, the Roman empire was a socialistic state, and, if memories serves Jesus rebuked the empire, not to mention the empire fell!
Furthermore as far as the early church, I assume you are speaking of the Roman Catholic Church along with the Council of Nicea and the such, yes they may well have had socialistic leanings, after all it was/is called “The ROMAN Catholic Church, but what makes you think that they were the one true church that Jesus and or the disciples established? They were just the most powerful politically and economically! That did/does not make them right in the eyes of God!!!! Might does not make right (that is what my Mom says)
Peace to all!
May 2, 2008 at 10:09 pm
ok I haven’t been on in a while so I thought I would just say thanks J.C. I will look at the post you told me about. Also Haley I’m glad I could help with your questions.
May 7, 2008 at 3:34 am
thanks Brigitta i need that!
yea i was in town today and i saw a bunch of ppl holding up sign’s 4ppl to vote 4him!
it scared me how many ppl like him…..but what guy run’s for american prezident and dosnet want to slaute the flag or say the pledge!??
i ponder that a lot! and i also wonder if obamma is the aintchrist then will he take over like hittler did?
and make us slave’s to get revenge b/c white’s made black’s slave’s??……i have a black brother in law and dont get me wrong im not raceist or anything im just wondering some one help me out here/???
May 7, 2008 at 1:40 pm
I will only recommend the Bible for all, that is where you can find the truth.
May 7, 2008 at 8:24 pm
okay but it dosnet say anything about …that kind of stuff?
May 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm
I am glad I am not alone in thinking he IS the antichrist. He gave me the creeps and send a chill through me when I first heard him speak. I don’t understand how so many people have been decieved by his words. God help us all if he is elected president. I am voting for Hilary but if he wins the nomination I will vote for Mccain.
May 7, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Ronni,
Just so you will understand BHO does/will not need to be elected to the Oval Office to be the AC. BHO is the AC whether he is just a senator or the president, his political standing will/does not matter. You see he is but fulfilling part of a very complicated and convoluted prophecy, made all the more of an enigma with man’s interpretation(s)of them.
As far as not understanding how BHO could/can/does decieve so many with his words, that is but one of the “gifts” (if that is what you can/will call it)that God’s adversary has given to BHO to use.
The best advice I can give to all here, prepare yourselves spiritually for what is about to come. Read your Bible, and pray over what is says in earnest, Kelebs is right the Bible is the only source for discerning what the truth is. The force(s) working right now to put asunder all the things that God has created is about to be unleashed to rain on the just and the unjust alike!
Xena, could you please clarify your last statement?
Peace to all
May 8, 2008 at 2:54 am
okay jc,i posted that im not sure if he is the antichirst but if he is how will he take over,….,will it be like hittler did to all jews….and i think if obamma gets in that he will make white ppl slaves!…i have a black brother in law so im not trying to put down blacks or anything…just saying!….so yea help me out here jc plz and thank u
May 9, 2008 at 8:43 pm
My father told me to look up, “Who is Barack Obama?” on Google. When I asked why, he told me a friend of his told him, “Obama is the Anti-Christ.” When I did a bit of research, I found some good evidence. I never would have thought that before now. But now as I look at his picture, I see an evil…uhm…aura? around him. He has this dark look in his eyes.
May 10, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Hi everyone, first and foremost remember this “BY THEIR FRUITS YOU WOULD KNOW THEM” forget about Barack being the AC for a minute, we believers must first take a good hard look at our hearts and look at the motivation. How can anyone come to the conclusion that BHO is the AC when he hasnt got into power yet performed many of the signs in revelation. How can people who love the Lord Jesus Christ ever rejoice in anyone dying or being killed through WAR. Christ commnanded us to LOVE our enemies if anyone doesnt adhere to any of these principles they are certainly not following Christ. What all of this nonsense proves is the we are certainly the church of laodicea we think we have it all but are naked and powerless for one simple reason LOVE. This is clearly missing are we so afraid of the AC that we resort to fear and hatred where is the Love, remember Christ said that true believers would be known by their love for each other. No disrespect but nationalism triumphilism are not acts of love calling and thinking that war, slavery, selfishness in the name saving a great nation does not come from Christ either. The early christians when being slaughtered did not start up terroist groups they either ran or submitted themsleves as Christ did. Guys/Gals remember our thy love, that is Christ let me also say one thing all of you dreaming dreams have DO NOT lose the ability to discern. Did you know that the Holy Spirit will only give you a dream if it …….. relates only and i say only to Christ, in other words it must glorify Christ that is the function of the Holy Spirit. BTW predicting when Christ will return is futile ONLY the FATHER knows the time. Yes be watchful yes pray yes wait for signs to appear and also WAIT for the TWO WITNESSES, 144000, the AC to declare a 7 year deal with ISRAEL. If you guys know anything about the LORD you would know one thing GOD NEVER abandons his people even unto death. It worries me greatly how many flocked to the George Bush is a Christian camp and completely ignored his record what he stood for, the Wars etc. I pray for all of you who are swayed by racism because lets face it thats why you are jumping hastily to BHO being the AC id rather wait until he sits in the temple and declares himself to be GOD, that would be the slam dunker. Clearly we have no understanding on the end times rememeber this the AC would be one who stood inplace of Christ. In other words either mimicking or pretending to be or being alluded to or even replacing Christ. This is going to be HIGHLY subtle so much so that even the elect would have been decieved if it was possible…… selah (pause and think).
BHO is no more the AC than George Bush, Tony Blair, Prince Charles etc. In case you we have completely forgotten one other significant piece of info…. ISRAEL.
maybe we have forgotten that ISRAEL is STILL waiting for the MESSIAH, now if the AC was BHO how on earth is a seriously religious jew ever going to think he is the MESSIAH have we given this thought. Second the AC builds a temple hences he sits in it and declares himself higher than the Creator. Lets repent of hatred, racism, lack of love remember we as christians should not fear who ever the AC will be, it is not a matter to be concerned about as we have one who is greater inside of us. However when we hurridly rush from the most distinctive measure to determine a christian…. LOVE then we need to REPENT and go back to being like Christ who as one person quite rightly pointed out how many of us would welcome a killer, thief and many other heinous sinners into our homes with open arms showing the love that Christ had for us id say probably 0.00000001% of us on this forum… selah (pause and think). The good news is that we are in alarm bell territory from our Saviour for every world event we see that reminds us of the end times let us take the opportunity to look hard at our fruits… if we are not bearing good fruits we would run the risk of being uprooted by Christ (this btw doenst necessarily mean rejected).
So once agin remeber if you have dreams does it glorify Christ if not REJECT IT it is not of GOD. if you have visions if it doens not glorify christ REJECT IT. We have a template already the greatest vision ever REVELATIONS. It started with Christ and Ended with Christ, Christ was central to the theme even with all the tribulaions in between. I repent lets all repent and fall on our knees and beg for forgiveness for lack of LOVE to all mankind. Do you know someone who is in need, help them, pray for them, for all the soliders lost in the wars remember both sides pray for them DO not rejoice in the destructions of so called enemies rather be humble and pray for Mercy to them and their families. Pray that the LORD will bring about peace to all individuals inspite of the woes to come this proves us as believers LET the LORD’s WILL be done but still let us be like Christ who wept for the jews when being crucified, who prayed for all us on the cross, he knew the hell that was to beseesch ISRAEL do you think he started rejoicing… MAN i despair i have seen so many so called Christians rejoice over IRAQ shame on them if they knew Christ they would have prayed instead. Perhaps the war may not have lasted this long if we did. We believers have so much we can do by praying and showing LOVE, when we descend into hatred and fighting it shows that we love to appear christian but are far from bing christian. Thank GOD Christ hasnt returned yet i doubt there would be many he could call his followers. The good news is the FATHER will wait until the bride is ready right now she is bickering on what she will wear. The bride WILL be ready when the world would see the outpouring of LOVE from Christians to all.
1. NO Judgement to sinners but LOVE and forgiveness.
2. NO fear of the AC but rather an urgency to show the LOVE of Christ to all.
3. NO support of governments who say they are christian on the way to another warfare.
4. NO over obsession with self wealth, healings, power ministries, success etc but rather a zeal to follow and LOVE Christ over and above all things to be prepared to lose all for Christ than gain all without him.
5. NO pre judgement before events have taken place in particular “BHO is the AC because he has an eery felling about him” what nonsense let the man sin first before you stone him (btw we arent supposed to stone him either), do you know what those with that kind of thinking would have done to John the Baptist if he was born in our time man o man.
Ok this is not prescriptive of everyone some have tried in vain to make sense of the hysteria, “if any man lack wisdom let him ask of GOD” true christians would not make any judgements at this time. Lets TARRY and wait on the LORD he is not weak to help his children he has promised
1. 2 witnesses (ala Moses and Elijah)
2. 144000
3. Rapture (which ever way this would occur)
Trust him and BE NOT AFRAID but more importanly get back to the first LOVE which is the LOVE and service of our Saviour LORD JESUS CHRIST.
We must be like him to make ourselves ready lest we miss the wedding itself.
SELAH (PAUSE AND THINK)
May 14, 2008 at 7:12 pm
JC
In Acts it describes the first Christian Churches living in a socialist situation. They put their possessions together for everyone. I don’t have a Bible in front of me at the moment because I am at work, but look it up…in the beginning of Acts, it describes the Church as socialist in nature.
In fact, if memory serves, two people lied about having put in to the “pot”, and were struck dead immediately.
May 20, 2008 at 1:38 am
Brigitta,
I am sorry that it has taken me so long to get back to you, I have been very busy with my work. Please be so kind to point me to the chapter and verse for those events in which you describe, I think I know what you are referring to but I do not want to presume to know. Thank you!
Peace to all!
May 20, 2008 at 1:47 am
hd24,
I will pray for you.
Peace to all!
May 20, 2008 at 12:44 pm
wow..
i forgot how many uneducated people there are in this world
May 20, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Jared,
Please explain your comment, “wow.. i forgot how many uneducated people there are in this world”.
I am/it is uncertain/unclear as to whom/what you are referring to.
May 25, 2008 at 2:56 am
Goodfella, please keep your bigot comments to yourself, and to the people who say Obama is AC… you are so wrong it’s just that the times are changing and many are driven and influenced by MTV,VH1,BET,and the Internet and thus comes to mind the question why so many first time attendees come in hordes for Obama rallies, I tell you why being young myself. The reason simply put is Bush; and not just that older politician’s ranking anywhere from 60 till death and old school way of thinking, to put it short Republicans are not that appealing to young Americans in this day of age and if they do want to appeal to the new generation and the generation after that they have do some soul searching. Back to Obama and why he is not AC.
So what if he was a Muslims at some point… just because of that some of you label him as Antichrist when he is hard working American, So what if he rose to power quickly… it just that the democrats have realized that they needed a new guy to show face for them in order to win and win big, so what if he is half black… isn’t about time American’s moved ahead to the future by electing the first minority president, so what if he can talk better than your average joe and can reach across the aisle… isn’t about time us Americans fixed our image around the world, so what if bring change to the table… isn’t about time we allow change inter our life’s.
P.S. The people who tend to hate change are the first ones to accept and like change when it happens! By the way it seem Muslim’s have their own version of Antichrist named Dougal. When you are looking for that name in Google search type ‘Dougal the Muslim Antichrist’.
May 25, 2008 at 3:02 am
correction- “so what if he brings change to the table… isn’t about time we allowed change to inter our lives.”
May 25, 2008 at 3:15 am
This is the website the you can read about the Muslim Antichrists and what he will do http://www.geocities.com/rebornempowered/Babylon7
May 25, 2008 at 3:29 am
It seems I misspelled his name his true name will be Dajjal Google search it.
May 27, 2008 at 7:20 am
To Moe..
You began your statement telling another person they should not say what they felt. Is that your right?
There are people, myself included, that believe Barak Obama is the greatest evil to set a human foot on the planet. We believe it for reason.
Do you, in your infinite 19 year old MTV wisdom, think you are infallible, or that perhaps all the worlds truth naturally falls into your world-wise mind?
It seems to me, and I may be wrong..that you have no faith of any kind. Your explaination seems to imply that youth, and change, and charisma are your motivations for following a man you know almost nothing about.
Maybe I am mistaken. That sounds pretty damned stupid to me.
May 27, 2008 at 2:58 pm
WAKE UP PEOPLE ON EARTH:
I AM ABOUT 90% SURE THAT BARACK OBAMA
IS THE ANTI-CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BECAUSE REVELATIONS CHAPTER 13—- SAYS THAT “JOHN” THE REVELATOR SAW A VISION OF HIM AND (HE LOOKED LIKE A LEOPARD)!!!
NOW A LEOPARD—-IS A MULTI-COLOR ANIMAL WITH BLACK, WHITE AND BROWN COLORS)!
AND BARACK OBAMA COMES FROM A MULTI-NATIONAL BACKGROUND BECAUSE HIS MOTHER WAS WHITE AND HIS FATHER WAS BLACK BUT HIS SKIN TONE IS CONSIDERED BROWN-SKINNED!
**SO PLEASE DON’T FALL FOR HIM!!
May 27, 2008 at 4:25 pm
by the way I’m 18, and this way of thinking is not mine alone but many of my peers.
May 27, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Uneducated people? Let’s talk. If you want to be educated you have to go back and read history that was written down near the time it happened. I’m sick to danged death of 20 year olds trying to tell me that Reagan was a lousy President when their info is based on the rantings of some liberal prof whose brain cells are half dead from LSD.
And Moe, my thinking is not mine alone but also that of many of my peers. I’ve seen change. I’ve seen it become legal to murder the unborn. I’ve seen men marrying men on the tv. I’ve seen the environMENTALists sell our economy out to the terrorists, and I for one don’t want any more d@mned change. I want the America I grew up in where you could have an opinion without being labeled and liabled as uneducated, where speech was truly free and not regulated by the politically correct THOUGHT POLICE. Uneducated? I read 1984, and that is about where we are. Have you read it, Moe? Have you read Orwell, Marx or Meine Kampf? By the time I was your age, I had. You need to.
I don’t know if BHO is the anti-christ, but there is no way I’m closing the door on the idea. I DO know that he is a communist and a sympathizer of muslim extremists.
As for you folks who say the early church was socialist, yep, sure was. But it was a voluntary association not forced on people by the government.
Some of us here have asked the question: Could Obama be the anti-Christ? I feel drawn to this discussion just like the people in Close Encounters of the Third Kind felt drawn to Devil’s Tower.
May 28, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Don’t vote for Mccain he is a Warmonger, no economic plan, and senile. oh yeah, also the lobbyist own him. Vote for Obama if you want to have a future.
May 28, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Moe,
First, allow me thank you for sharing your views with us, sometimes we old folks need to be reminded just how idiotic/foolish some young folks can be/are!
You referenced the muslim version of the antichrist in post number 256. I would like to take this opportunity to educate you on what islam truly is and is not.
First it is not a religion it is a cult, there is a vast difference religion and a cult. See the definitions below.
A cult by definition is a group, often living in a colony, with a charismatic leader who indoctrinates members with unorthodox or extremist views, practices or beliefs.
Religion by definition is belief in a divine or superhuman power or powers to be worshipped as the creator(s) of the universe.
While I admit that I am paraphrasing, the above definitions are pretty much what you would find in a standard dictionary.
When one reads up on the detestable human called Muhammed they will see that he is nothing more than an sexiest egomaniac with a lust for war, murder and sex with children. He suffered from narcissism, jealousness, and from time to time impotence. He was a vengeful small minded person who killed anyone he felt threatened by. He expected to be treated as a prophet and was angered when he wasn’t. He spewed hate and contempt for anything or one who dared oppose him or his delusional thinking that he was a prophet.
Furthermore, the allah that muslims follow is not the One True God of the Bible, the allah that islam follows is nothing more than a moon god diety that Muhammad tried to elevate to the level of the One True God, to legitimize his position and power.
The koran is nothing more Muhammed’s feebel attempt at rewritting the oral traditions of the Jewish people to suit his own grandiose and delusional replacement theories of the Arabs as being the chosen people.
Muhammed was fortold by the Bible in Revelations and elsewhere, as he is an antichrist, one of many I might add. To be an antichrist simply means to deny Christ and His divinity this Muhammed does repeatedly in his trash book called the koran. BHO professes Christianity, he has used it to pervert/persuade, (which by the way is totally acceptable to islam and the chruch he currently attends) his true agenda which I believe is to further his objective of delivering the USA to her enemies. Remember Hitler and many others have also used Christian propoganda to acheive horrendous acts of evil. The addage of the end justifies the means comes to mind here.
Muhammed was a sexiest pig that treated women with disdain and contempt. Muhammed thought of women as nothing more than chattle to be traded and used in whatever fashion he wanted, they were/are thought of as possessions nothing more.
Muhammed was terrorist possessed by demons and tried to elevate his cult by spreading islam by the sword, much like today’s extremists would/have do/done.
BHO is a sympathizer to this islamic view point, in his defense how could he not sympathize with them. He was one as a child, and, as we all are the sum of what we learned/practiced as children; he can no more deny that part of his life than you or I can in regard to what we learned/practiced as children.
This my friend is the danger of President who not only sympathizes with terrorist but would actively engage them as if they were a legitiment force to be reckoned with. We have too long ignored the threat that islamic extremistists pose to not only us but to the world.
I for one will never bow to the god of islam for it is a false god that seeks to replace the One True God of the Bible, the original antichrist as it were/is. I am confident that many, including you, will fall and worship this idol so as to save their lives (I am reminded about the verse in the Bible that states whosoever shall lose his life for Christ shall find it.
I am not advocting/concerned that islam be banned, my feelings are pure and simply this, if that is truly your choice to parttake of a cult, without coercion and without the threat or fear of reprisial, then please do so. I will respect your right to do so. Why should it be anything less for someone who wants/needs something besides islam.
As far as the future with BHO as president, I am certain that he will be president, as a matter of fact I am quite confident he will be the next president, but woe unto us when that day happens! It will be a sad day for America and all who dwell therein. I can only prepare myself, and, encourage everyone to do the same for the spiritual battle that is about to ensue. I for one will be praying for you Moe, you will need it when BHO has handed America over to her enemies! Woe to anyone who has the guts to stand agianst islam along with BHO and his middle east buddies/allies! Woe to all who fall prey to the madness/charisma of BHO!
I am certain that your “peers” would not approve of your speaking for them, as a matter of fact I have three children who could be considered your “peers” and none of them would allow you or anyone else to speak for them!
As far as your assertion that John McCain is a warmonger, please give specifics on what has lead you to think that?
By the way have you bothered to read BHO’s “Blueprint for Change” (all of it)? If not I would encourage you to do so, I have read it several times and in my most sincere honest assessment it is pure drivel, with alot of smack/crap/lies thrown in for good measure! Remember this, satan will tell you a hundred truths to get you to believe one lie! As it is with satan, it is/will also/be with BHO his spokesman!!!!
Peace to all!
May 29, 2008 at 10:36 pm
ITS VERY VERY POSSIBLE THAT SENATOR BARACK OBAMA IS THE ANTI-CHRIST
WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES! YES! YES!
I BELIEVE THAT SEN. BARACK OBAMA IS THE ANTI-CHRIST THAT THE BIBLE TELLS US ABOUT BECAUSE:
1. IF WE ADD UP THE LETTERS IN HIS
FIRST, MIDDLE & LAST NAME, WE
WILL GET 666 IF WE USE SOME
UNDERSTANDING!
**SO HERE IS THE FORMULA:
HIS FIRST NAME IS BARACK
HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN
HIS LAST NAME IS OBAMA
BARACK HAS—————6 LETTERS
HUSSEIN HAS—————7 LETTERS
OBAMA HAS—————–5 LETTERS
NOW 6 PLUS 7 PLUS 5 EQUALS 18.
AND IF WE BREAK DOWN THE NUMBER
18, WE WILL GET 6 PLUS 6 PLUS 6.
AND 666 IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
2. ANOTHER REASON THAT I BELIEVE THAT
SEN. BARACK OBAMA IS THE ANTI-
CHRIST IS BECAUSE HE LIVES IN AND
HAS WORKED IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS.
AND THE ZIP CODE IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS
IS 60606. AND IF WE TAKE OUT THE
TWO ZEROS IN THIS ZIP CODE WE WILL
GET 666 AGAIN!
AND 666 IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
3. THE THIRD REASON I BELIEVE THAT
SEN. BARACK OBAMA IS THE ANTI-
CHRIST IS BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN HE
LIVES IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS AND THE
FIRST THREE DIGITS OF PHONE
NUMBERS THEIR ARE 666.
SO IF YOU DIAL 1 + AREA CODE (312) +
666 AND THEN THE LAST FOUR DIGITS
OF SOME PHONE NUMBERS THERE,
YOU WILL REACH A PHONE NUMBER IN
THE SAME CITY AND STATE THAT
SEN. BARACK OBAMA LIVES IN! BECAUSE
THE TELEPHONE NUMBERS THERE
BEGIN WITH 666.
AND REMEMBER THAT 666 IS THE MARK
OF THE BEAST!
NOW THE FOURTH REASON THAT I
BELIEVE THAT SEN. BARACK OBAMA IS
THE ANTI-CHRIST THAT THE BIBLE
TELLS US ABOUT IS BECAUSE HIS
OFFICE OR CAMPAIGN PHONE NUMBER
FOR VOTERS TO CALL OR FOR PEOPLE
TO CALL WHO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT
VOTING IS: 1-866-675-2008.
THIS IS A TOLL-FREE NUMBER BUT
IT STILL HAS THE NUMBER 666 IN IT!
AND 666 IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
SO PLEASE PLEASE BEWARE OF THE
MAN NAMED SEN. BARACK OBAMA!
DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM, DO NOT
WORSHIP HIM AND DO NOT TAKE HIS
MARK! BECAUSE HIS MARK IS 666!
FROM: THE PERSON THAT STUDIES THE
END TIME.
P.S. PLEASE EMAIL ME AT:
owens_ruben@yahoo.com
SO THAT I CAN ANSWER ANY OF YOUR
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS
ABOUT THE END TIME, THE WARS, THE
RAPTURE, THE BEAST OR THE ANTI-CHRIST!
June 4, 2008 at 10:01 am
Of course he is not, or not yet. He could become it, but only after being elected, only after taking on the job, after reaching the “top of the pyramid “. Until then, he can only be in a state of contamination, and there’s no knowing for sure. He may become it, he become it not. What was that thing with Canada? telling the voters in America one thing and telling another to canadian politicians? Double sidedness already? But so do all other politic people. It’s after he becomes president that you have to look for real signs. Of course, if some of you are right, by then it may be too late… according to some catholic exorcist priests, they say the difference between a mental case and true possession is that the mental case person will do anything to call atention to the self. quite the opposite with possessed ones, with the devil inside doing all efforts to go by unnoticed. and so mental cases are more likely to be called possessed and the possessed more likely to be considered normal… for satan is the master of deception.
one question… if BC will actually embpdy the anti-christ, and he will have all the FBIs and CIAs and other secret “societies” to protect him – you can not surely think that the AC will encarnate unprotected, do you – what will you do ? Aren’t you afraid “they” are going to find out who you are?… And come after you… you JC and friends… just curious…
June 4, 2008 at 10:38 am
And, slightly more difficult… if the anti-christ is all set up to encarnate again – for it defenitively roamed inside Hitler, even Pope Benedict has commented on that – if it is all ready in hell for the leader to come to earth and take a human body… I ask… isn’t the army of darkness already helping it through, looking out for people who may unmask their leader, and trying to hinder all interference?? Aren’t they already on the attack?? What do you feel??? Do you think that demons may know you already? I mean, are you fooling around, people, or do you really believe what you say?…
This is actually not a joke.
I’ve wondered about this questions for a long time. Any answers?
June 4, 2008 at 12:20 pm
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June 4, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Julia,
You asked “Aren’t you afraid “they” are going to find out who you are?…And come after you…JC and friends…just curious…”
No I have no fear that “they” will find out who I am; “they” all ready know. Now the question becomes do I think/believe that “they” could/would come after me? Yes “they” could/would and have, but that is not to be my concern, God’s will will be done. I have been told that I will be alive when Jesus makes his triumphant return to rule this earth; and I believe that with all my heart, mind and soul. I am more “fearful” for the millions who will leave this earth not knowing their Savior the Lord Jesus Christ.
We must remember that satan is a prideful being, who am I to him? A nobody that is what I am. To BHO/AC I am a nobody, just one of his many detractors nothing more nothing less. Satan’s pride fills BHO, and, he see’s only his “dream” coming to fruitition.
The Lord is my protection!! I cannot give thought or heed to what satan would like to plant in my heart and that is fear!! I made that mistake once, giving into fear, I must/will not do so again. For those of us who spent time running away from God and His plan, the lessons learned are simple but quite effective, and certainly will not be repeated!!
As far as “isn’t the army of darkness already helping it through, looking out for people who may unmask their leader, and trying to hinder all interference??” Please understand satan is no fool, he is not hiding waiting to spring some sort of surprise attack, he sits in plain view counting on our ignorance of God and His plan. I am not “unmasking” anything. For there is nothing to “unmask”.
I am not hindering/interfering with BHO/AC ascendcent to the Presidency, that is not my call. I am/was sent to glorify Jesus and to share the truth. Satan cannot/will not/does not stand up to that.
As far as the post from 267, can you please clarify your statement? I am unable to follow your train of thought/statement?
Julia, I hope that I explained/clarified some things for you. Do not allow satan to keep you ignorant, do some research; start and stay with your Bible. All the answers are there– the challenge lies in asking/seeking the right questions.
Peace to all!!
June 10, 2008 at 3:16 pm
The first time I heard Obama, I felt completely over-taken by him and mesmerized. Just from the first time I heard him speak, I supported him. I watched several speeches, and tried going to a speech of his but I was too late (I got there way before it started, but it was already full…go figure, right?). As time went on, I started to get more and more skeptical about him. Although I ‘supported’ him, I only agreed with him on some of the issues…I guess it was just because I liked the whole idea of “yes we can” and “change” and “hope”. Every time I heard a speech I felt a cold chill go through my body – and I had a strong feeling that this really wasn’t right. I am a Christian, and have been one my entire life, and all of a sudden felt VERY uneasy about all of this. Now that Obama has the Democratic nominee, the whole “antichrist” thing is even more frightening.
Anyway, I felt as if I needed to see what other people thought on this issue, and searched “is barack obama the antichrist?” on Google. It came up with 470,000 results! Insane. Since then, I have read many things pertaining to this subject, and I have come to the conclusion that I do not believe Obama is the antichrist.
I do, however, believe he could very well be a frontrunner for the antichrist, or one of his false prophets.
My personal theory on this is that he will become president, and someone will randomly come to power in Europe (most likely Rome) and correspond with him – and once the world unites as one and the peace treaty is signed, he will have ultimate power. NOW, I am not saying that Obama could still be here during that time…but I have an intense feeling this is how it will go. Of course, the Rapture will happen sometime before then.
I am not waiting for the Rapture, I have always had an interest for all of the Biblical prophesies, but my interest has intensified as of late – and I feel as if I should share the information and knowledge I’ve gathered and the theory I have come up with. But I do hope the Rapture and Tribulation aren’t THAT soon, and it is not in God’s will that we know how it will all play out; these are simply my speculations on how it possibly COULD happen. I have much of my life left to lead, and so much more of God’s gifts to experience, as many others here do I’m sure. Til then, we just have to keep watching out and praying. God bless all of you!
June 11, 2008 at 10:34 am
1- 267 not mine
3- actually am from Europe… and do think that we have here far better candidates for the AC job. France: Nicholas Sarkozy; UK: David Cameron ( check his birthdate! ); Germany’s SPD’s Kurt Beck…
4- can any of you gime any real reasons why Obama and not McCain??? dreams and seeing 666’s all over the place not valid! Are you sure it’s NOT the color??? Me, everytime I watch McCain saying ” MY friends” on TV, THAT gives me chills…
Honestly, I think Obama will not take from the rich to give to the poor, but take from the white to give to the black. The fact that That may mark the beginning of the Decadence of USA, just like many other empires before in history peaked and then fell… Apart from that, so far… I see no reasons for fear. YET.
There are many signs of decandece in the world today… just like there might have been many signs of hope 2000 years ago, when Jesus was born. Many know the warnings and are expecting the coming of the “Anti-Messiah” these days, just like many awaited the coming of the Messiah back then.
But i don’t think the proud satan would choose someone like BC. Satan will want to be beautiful. Man or women. And through beauty seduce many. And satan will want to be rich, very rich, to use humans as slaves right from the craddle. Doesn’t this make sense?
And me, I’m sure satan will chose one of these three european countries. Not even Italy anymore. Simply because Italy does not matter that much anymore – just like ~USA does not matter as much as you may think…
From my point of view, honestly, you Americans are far too imature – there’s a positive side to this, too, so don’t take it bad.
One VERY important question i need to confirm – is satan – then – going to incarnate in one human being right from birth or is he going only to take possession of the person, say, at his/her 33rd birthday, for instance, or in BO’s case when he would take the presidential oath???
Any answers???
June 12, 2008 at 1:54 pm
“Love Not The World”
”For the WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one”(I John 5:19)
“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world will pass away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of The Only True GOD will abide for ever.” (I John 2:15-17)
“If you were of the world, the world would love it’s own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said unto you, the servant is not greater than his Master. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also.” (John 15:19-20)
“Where do wars and fighting among you come from? Do they not come of your lusts that war in your members? You lust, and have not: you kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: you fight and war yet you have not, because you ask not. You ask, and receive not, because you ask amiss, that you may consume it upon your lusts. You adulterers and adulteresses, don’t you know that friendship with the world is to be at enmity with The Only True GOD? Therefore whoever will be a friend of the world is the enemy of The Only True GOD.” (James 4:1-4)
“The world cannot hate you; but the world hates Me, because I testify that the works of this world are evil.” (John 7:7)” and “The Messiah gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of The Only True God, Our Father.”(Gal 1:4)
The Messiah testified: “If the world hates you know that it hated Me before it hated you.”(John 5:18) Truly, Truly, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abides alone: but if it die it brings forth much fruit. He that loves his life in this world shall lose it; and he that hates his life in this world shall have it unto life eternal.” (John 12:24-25)
John testified: “Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hates you.” (I John 3:13) “ James testified, “Whoever would be a friend of this world is the enemy of GOD”(James 4:4)
The “earth” is The Creation of The Only True GOD, Father of ALL! The “worldly” systems are the creation of, and under the dominion of “the god of this world”, he who is “the father of lies”, he who “has blinded the minds of those who believe not The Messiah”! All the nations of this world are under the dominion of, and serve, the evil one for he provides the fuel that feeds mankind’s “imag”ination and mankind’s “imagination is destroying and perverting Creation(land, air, water, creatures, Truth, Love, Peace, Faith, Simplicity, .etc.) ;-(
And the “strongest thing” in the evil one’s worldly systems? “Woman”…… yet The Truth, that which is of The Only True GOD, is stronger even than woman. (read I Esdras 3&4 of the Apocrypha) And Truth, Love, Peace, Faith, Mercy, Hope,,,etc,,, all that is “good”, is of The Only True GOD and is of HIS Spirit, not of this world. Those born of The Spirit, those born of The Only True GOD, are the brethren of The Messiah, for they received “a love of The Truth that they might be saved”. Reborn!
And those who have “received a love of The Truth” have separated themselves from this world and those of this world, for they have taken heed unto The Call of The Only True GOD to “Come out of her MY people.” They are “in, but not of this wicked, evil world”, and The Only True GOD has received them, and is “A Father unto them, and they are HIS sons and daughters”. And they follow, and desire to be like their Master and Brother, The Messiah, He Who was “the firstborn of many brethren”. And as “The Messiah was a servant of The Only True GOD”, so also His Brethren are “servants of The Only True GOD.”
The called out ones are not “adulterers and adulteresses”, they are not “friends of this wicked, evil world”, they do not “fornicate with the god of this world” for they know that “to be a friend of this world is to be the enemy of The Only True GOD.” They are at war against the evil spirits that possess those of this world.
And they do not “allow that woman Jezebel, which calls herself a prophetess, to teach. For she teaches others to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. The Only True GOD gave her a chance to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.” (Rev 2:20-21)
“fornication” and “adultery..” in that which is recorded above signifies spiritual fornication with “the god of this world”, which is to love that which is of his world.
Once again, the “earth” is The Creation of The Only True GOD, Father of ALL! The “worldly” systems are the creation of, and under the dominion of “the god of this world”. Those who “love this world” all serve “the god of this world”, and play their part in the processes that seek to destroy The Creation of The Only True GOD. “And The Only True GOD will destroy them who destroy the earth.” (Rev 11:18) Global warming, polluted air, land and waters, toxic wastes, sexual perversion, evil inventions of destruction, greed, hate, carnal warfare, dis-ease ,,,etc,,, are all destructive processes that have their root in “the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life”. And as stated, “woman is the strongest thing of this world”. Yet stronger than woman is The Truth, which is in those who have “received a love of The Truth”. The Truth Is Alive in those who have been born of The Spirit for “they no longer love this wicked, evil world and it’s things, nor do they love their own lives in this world”. They but seek and desire The Will of GOD, as they await their final transformation. “Caterpillar to Butterfly” ndeed and Truth!
Now “the ground was cursed for Adam’s sake” because he “hearkened unto the woman”. Adam listened to a woman rather than obeying The Only True GOD. Yet because of Faithful Noah, The Only True GOD “no longer would curse the ground for man’s sake” because Noah obeyed The Only True GOD! (Genesis 8:21-22) And the Faithful today are exhorted to “love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.” And Faithful women are exhorted to “be in silence.” “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. For I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” “For Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (I Timothy 2:11,12,14) A man and woman joined together in obedience and submission unto The Only True GOD are blessed indeed. All who are not obedient, all who will not submit themselves unto The Only True GOD will have to answer to HIM..period.. Be not of those who deny and defy “The One GOD, Father of All”. Be not of those who are destroying and perverting HIS Creation(land, air, water, creatures, Truth, Love, Peace, .etc.)!
“The Only True GOD is The HEAD of The Messiah, The Messiah is The Head of the man, and the man is the head of the woman”. Multitudes pervert GOD’s Order because they have been seduced by ” the commandments and doctrines of men and devils”. Multitudes are seduced by the religious systems that are in and of this evil world. Seduced because they love this evil world and their own life in it! “Set your affections on things above”. Desire heavenly, eternal things. Quit serving ‘time’ in the prison that is this world and take heed unto the call to ”Come out from among them and be separate!”
Once again, “Come out” of the worldly systems, which are the product of mankind’s “imag”ination, especially the religious systems. “Come out” from among those who are destroying and perverting Creation and be of those who follow The Messiah on “The Way to The Truth of The Life”.
Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world……. francisco
June 12, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Obama is not the antichrist. You racist bible thumpers need to give it up. You should not vote for John McCain. America loves a war hero – but that doesn’t give someone the right to lead a nation.
Obama is a very educated Christian with very good morals; don’t believe the redneck hype.
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America needs a new direction. The rest of the world highly disapproves of the role America is playing in the world right now. America is no longer a peacemaker. If America can once again reposition itself as a world leader, morally and economically, everything will fall into place for a prosperous nation. You will not get this with McCain.
July 19, 2020 at 11:03 pm
Have you made your peace with accepting that Obama’s the Antichrist yet?
June 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Trevor,
Do you know anyone’s heart here? Who/What gives you the authority to call anyone you want a “racist Bible thumper”? Just because we cannot/will not/ do not buy into your proclaimation that BHO is the “hope and change” that America needs.
I for one am neither racist nor am I a Bible thumper. I simply am sharing a message. It is up to you to understand/accpet it or not; the choice is yours, no one is forcing you “convert” to a different understanding or way of thinking.
I do not recall anyone on this site spouting that one should for vote for John McCain simply because he is a war hero. This is not the subject of this forum. Nor is that the only criteria that should be considered when choosing a president!!!
Do you honestly believe/think that the AC would be anything other than intelligent? Think again dear Trevor, BHO (aka the A/C) is quite smart. Further more how could one doubt his Christianity as we have all seen and heard just how “Christain” he and his church are. Nothing speaks more highly of being a moral Christain more than a good sermon on the evils of America.
As far as the redneck comment goes, LOL, would you know a redneck if you seen one? I hear that they love to cling to religion and guns when someone different from them comes ’round. Yikes!! We would not want to ever be accused of loving God or standing up for what we believe in, God forbide that!!!
As far as a new direction, well honey let me let you in on a little secret, BHO does indeed have a new direction for America, it is called Sharia Law!!! Get used to it. Why do you think he denounced his church, after a “white guy”, in the disguise of a catholic priest, gave such a nasty sermon at his very own church. This is just another tactic to lull America (black and white) into thinking/believing that he is disappointed with his church. When if fact he will announce sometime after he wins the election, that he has had message from his god to rejoin the religion of his youth. That the god of isalm has called him back to embrace who is. The world will love this for this will be their signal that America will indeed soon be ready for a take over. He will bring a false peace to the world only to unleash his terror to those who refuse to embrace his god. Get used to the idea Trevor, cause all your dreams of a new direction are about to come to fruition!!!
You seem to think that America will once again be a world leader, “morally and economically, everything will fall into place for a prosperous nation” when BHO/AC is elected president well the joke is/will be on you and everyone, including those of us who did not vote for him. America’s time has passed, she has/will/is fall(en)(ing), the reason for Her demise is simple, She began to care what “the rest of the world thought of Her. Had America continued to follow Her guiding principles, the principle to which She was founded upon, and, the principles to which she committed Herself to with the Civil Rights movement of the sixities; then we would be talking about a different scenario other than the demise of America under the hand of BHO aka the AC.
Trevor, just remember you heard that “prophecy” here first, nor will you hear anywhere else. Remember this when you are being beheaded for being an American!
Peace to all!!!!
June 16, 2008 at 7:02 pm
JC
again,
seriously,
when – WHEN-
will the antichrist incarnate? Is he already here, inside the person of BO or will he take over once BO becomes president? NOT A JOKE. What do you think?
… There’s no way America will turn to the muslim religion direction !?!!
If he becomes the AC it has to be something else the sign, surely…
June 17, 2008 at 9:05 pm
My under standings is he comes on the seen in peace then some where in the middle of the seven years he receive a head wound then he becomes evil then comes the worse time on earth
any question’s on anti-Christ-war-end
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July 19, 2020 at 11:05 pm
Check out Obama’s scars on his head. It’s covered in them. He’s got a fatal head wound. He’s been opened up from ear to ear like a ripe watermelon.
July 23, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Anyone paying attention the Obama’s Middle East/Europe trip? Will this be the man to bring world peace?
July 23, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Yes, I am watching BHO’s trip/parade with great interest. It seems he is all things to all people. He is taking the grand tour to introduce himself to the world.
Have you taken the time to read newspapers from around the world or the areas he is visiting? They place great “hope” in the “change” of leadership in the US. Notice how quiet/subdued the world has been in regard to terror strikes around the globe? It is as if the entire world is holding it’s collective breath; waiting with anticipation for BHO’s election victory. A victory for BHO means a victory for them!
As far as bringing peace to the world, what does your heart say? My understanding is that BHO is the man that brings about this peace that the Bible speaks of; problem is most of us are ignorant of what the fulfilling of prophecy actually means to/for the world. We deny our God/Creator to gain the world, how sad and shallow we are. Christians “hold fast” your salvation, hold fast to your God, the time approaches when we will be forced/persuaded to subplant our God with a pretender.
Which side of the prophecy will you choose,life or death? Only time will tell but by then what will you have lost?
July 23, 2008 at 11:54 pm
BARACK OBAMA OFFERS US:
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CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE!!
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AND THIS IS:
TOO STRANGE, STRANGE, STRANGE!!
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WHY?
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BECAUSE “(BARACK OBAMA)” CONSTANTLY CONSTANTLY
CONSTANTLY CONSTANTLY TALKS ABOUT “(CHANGE)”!!!
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AND (DANIEL 7: 25) IN THE BIBLE:
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LETS US KNOW THAT THE (”ANTI-CHRIST”)
WILL THINK TO OR TRY TO “CHANGE”
TIMES AND “CHANGE” LAWS!
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AND THE WORD “(CHANGE)” IS THE “HIGH-LIGHT”,
“FOCUS POINT” AND “KEY” WORD OF
“(BARACK OBAMA’S)” CAMPAIGN!!!
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BECAUSE EVEN THE BLUE (POSTER-SIGNS) THAT
PEOPLE WHO ATTEND HIS CAMPAIGN-RALLIES
HOLD UP SAY:
“IN BIG LETTERS” —– “CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN”!!
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AND THE NEW (POSTER) THAT HE RECENTLY CAME OUT WITH SAYS:
“IN BIG LETERS” — “CHANGE” THAT WORKS FOR YOU!!
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SO (DANIEL 7: 25) — LETS US KNOW THAT THE (”ANTI-CHRIST”)
WILL ATTEMPT TO DO THREE(3) THINGS IN THIS SCRIPTURE!!
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AND THEY ARE:
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1. SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST GOD!
2. WEAR OUT THE SAINTS OF GOD!
3. THINK TO OR TRY TO “(CHANGE)” TIMES &
“(CHANGE)” LAWS!!
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BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THAT ORDER!!
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SO LETS PAY ATTENTION TO THE (CLUES &
HINTS) THAT GOD GIVES US IN THE BIBLE ABOUT
THE (”ANTI-CHRIST”) PLEASE!!
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INSTEAD OF WAITING ON IT TO JUST DROP OUT
OF THE SKY AND FALL DOWN IN OUR LAPS AND
SIT ON TOP OF A SILVER-PLATTER!!
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BECAUSE THIS IS NO COINCIDENCE!!
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FROM: Mister Truthful
EMAIL: owens_ruben@yahoo.com
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P.S.*** PLEASE EMAIL ME:
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SO THAT I CAN ANSWER ANY OF YOUR
COMMENTS, CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE BEAST, THE ANTI-CHRIST,
THE MARK OF THE BEAST,
THE TRIBULATION, THE WARS,
THE EARTHQUAKES, THE END TIME,
HELL, THE RAPTURE, OR THE NEW BABYLON!
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BECAUSE THESE ARE THE
THINGS THAT I HAVE STUDIED!
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July 24, 2008 at 12:00 am
THE BIBLE ALREADY LETS US KNOW THAT
THE NAME OF THE (”ANTI-CHRIST”) WILL
HAVE (18-LETTERS) IN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SO LETS READ REVELATIONS 13: 18 PLEASE!
BECAUSE REV. 13: 18 SAYS “HERE IS WISDOM”!
NOT OVER THERE IS WISDOM!
NOT BACK THERE IS WISDOM!
NOT UP THERE IS WISDOM!
NOT DOWN THERE IS WISDOM!
NOT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF US IS WISDOM!
NOT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF US IS WISDOM!
BUT IT SAYS HERE IS WISDOM!
MEANING RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF
US IS WISDOM WHEN WE LOOK DOWN
IN OUR BIBLE AT (VERSE #18)!!!
WHY VERSE NUMBER 18?
AND WHY NOT VERSE NUMBER 17?
ITS BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS TRYING TO
GIVE US A HINT (CLUE) THAT THE NAME OF THE
ANTI-CHRIST WILL HAVE EXACTLY (18-LETTERS) IN IT!
AND THIS IS WHY VERSE (#18) SAYS
HERE (OR RIGHT HERE) IS WISDOM!
YES!
RIGHT IN FRONT OF US AND RIGHT
UNDER OUR NOSE!
BECAUSE THE NAME “BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA”
HAS EXACTLY (18-LETTERS) IN IT!
SO COUNT THEM!
BECAUSE (REV. 13: 18) TELLS US
TO COUNT THE NUMBER ( OR LETTERS)
OF THE BEAST!
NOW NOTICE THAT VERSE (#17)
DID NOT SAY HERE IS WISDOM!
AND THIS IS BECAUSE THE NAME OF
THE “ANTI-CHRIST” WILL NOT HAVE
17-LETTERS IN IT!
AND NOTICE THAT VERSE (#16)
DID NOT SAY HERE IS WISDOM!
AND THIS IS BECAUSE THE NAME OF
THE “ANTI-CHRIST” WILL NOT HAVE
16-LETTERS IN IT!
AND NOTICE THAT VERSE (#15)
DID NOT SAY HERE IS WISDOM!
AND THIS IS BECAUSE THE NAME OF
THE “ANTI-CHRIST” WILL NOT HAVE
15-LETTERS IN IT!
BUT THE NAME “BARACK-HUSSEIN-OBAMA”
HAS EXACTLY 18-LETTERS IN IT!
AND THIS IS WHY VERSE (#18) IS THE
VERSE THAT SAYS (HERE IS WISDOM)!
NOW WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER 18,
WHERE DOES THE (666) PART COME IN AT?
ITS VERY SIMPLE!
BECAUSE IF WE BREAK DOWN THE
NUMBER (18), WE WILL GET (6 + 6 + 6)!
AND IF WE TAKE AWAY ALL OF
THE (PLUS SIGNS), WE WILL GET (666)!
AND (666) IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
SO BARACK-HUSSEIN-OBAMA IS
THE ANTI-CHRIST!!
I ASSURE YOU!
FROM: Mister Truthful
EMAIL: owens_ruben@yahoo.com
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P.S.*** PLEASE EMAIL ME:
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SO THAT I CAN ANSWER ANY OF YOUR
COMMENTS, CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE BEAST, THE ANTI-CHRIST,
THE MARK OF THE BEAST,
THE TRIBULATION, THE WARS,
THE EARTHQUAKES, THE END TIME,
HELL, THE RAPTURE, OR THE NEW BABYLON!
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BECAUSE THESE ARE THE
THINGS THAT I HAVE STUDIED!
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July 24, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Mr. Truthful,
That is an interesting hypothesis you have there. I shall be praying as to the validity of of your research.
July 26, 2008 at 12:01 am
Can anyone here verify the zip code for BHO at his home in Chicago Illinois?
July 19, 2020 at 11:09 pm
Illinois Lottery drew 666 the day after election and the same day as Obama’s acceptance speech.
That’s the Mark of the Beast aka the Antichrist.
Need any proof Obama’s the Antichrist?
So you got that now.
July 26, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Maitreya is the anti-christ. Obama will give his power to the U.N. which is under the spiritual influence of Maitreya. Study up on Maitreya guys.
July 27, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Yeah, study up on Maitreya, not because he is the Anti-Christ, but because he is the Christ, the World Teacher.
You might also want to wake up to the dangerous, destructive and escapist fictions of “dispensationalist” Christians who would have us believe that they’re all going to be raptured up to heaven while God destroys all living creatures on earth. They get to watch the horrors from on high and then come back to earth when the rest of us are gone. Forget about saving the environment, or feeding the poor; all that is useless and worse, it just puts off the inevitable which, to these fundamentally deluded Christians, is total war and destruction to bring about the “fulfillment of prophesy.” Problem is, none of what they believe is actually in the Bible; it’s a total fiction that dates to the late nineteenth century.
Yes, please do study up!
Christ is coming back to earth to live with us, to help us understand that we are all one in Christ, that we all need each other, that we can’t throw away the earth. He’s not going to wave a magic wand (which would amount to a violation of our free will). It’s up to ALL the peoples of this planet to work together to save the human species.
American Christian dispensationalists are so self-centered!
July 27, 2008 at 10:42 pm
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July 28, 2008 at 4:50 am
I think we all should be aware that it seems there are signs that something’s going to happen in the not so distant future. God will let his children know some way that Jesus is about to return — we won’t know the exact time, but it might be approximated for us. I think unbelievers won’t understand the signs God gives to those who are of His Kingdom. It’s interesting how unbelievers, in particular the atheists I’ve encountered, seem to be even more rebellious against God, and their hate seems to grow even more intense for Him. You can’t imagine the things they say. They are getting as bad as the satanists. There is a movement on to get teenagers to go along with atheism as well, and make no mistake, it’s young men these vile creatures (well known, successful atheists who distribute their propaganda) are targeting for the most part. Now it’s really cool to be an atheist. And we also have all that new age stuff being promoted. I think this is a sign we are entering into the time of the Rapture.
July 31, 2008 at 12:42 am
Fran,
Shall I pray for you?
August 1, 2008 at 3:48 am
You are right Fran. The world who embraces Obama will indeed think they are embracing the Christ and will say so. They will believe he is here to save the world. You are also right that Christians will probably not be raptured out before half way through the 7 years of your “Christ” reign on earth. I am sure you have bought the entire lie that all will be god like under the rule of this earthly “Christ” so really there is no need to tell you more.
But Jesus is going to come back and destroy the kingdoms of the world and your environmental new age religion which has led you astray into believing people do not need a Savior to be reconciled to Our Heavenly Father. That there is no need to repent for sin.
To you and your ilk, Christians and Jews are the enemy. You are following the exact same bible and philosophy that Hitler followed and are so deceived you don’t even know it. You think everything would just be great if it weren’t for Christians and probably Jews. We are the enemy of the earth and the ushering in the New Age of peace and harmony.
If there was any way, I would persuade you to rethink what you are espousing. Just think, if you are wrong, you are in grave danger because Jesus will come back again in just 7 years, and he will judge the world. All will be lost to all who have refused His precious sacrifice to follow after humanism.
I pray you wake up to the truth before it is too late.
August 3, 2008 at 5:01 am
Is Barack Obama the antichrist? I simply don’t know. Is he an antichrist? I don’t know that, either.
What I do know, is this: In the wake of his campaign, he has shown behavior that has brought my attention and therefore began my search into who this man is, his background, his ancestry, and the details that encompass him and bring a matter of concern that I believe should for now, not serve for any definitive opinion of him but should be at the forefront of every mind as evaluation of him continues. In other words, I am not calling him the antichrist, but somebody who we should be paying very close attention to.
Here is the information I’ve found. His name–that is, his TRUE full name (Barack Hussein Obama) have 19 characters. However, if you translate that into Greek (the language the bible was written in), you come up with
Barack Χουσεΐν Obama and this of course contains 18 characters (6×3=18).
The second issue, is his web campaign’s headquarter address. “Obama for America” is located at a Chicago zip code of 60606.
Third attribute: His leniage. His father, Barack Obama Sr belonged to the Luo tribe in Africa, which has origins with Wau and therefore Sudan which began as Kush. Assyria’s power in the 7th century reached far beyond its borders, to Judah, Philistia PGP , Egypt PGP and Kush (Nubia) PGP , to the island of Cyprus PGP and along the Mediterranean coastline as far as Lydia, penetrating deep into central Anatolia, the Iranian plateau and even the Arabian desert. The prophet Daniel called the antichrist an Assyrian. In Daniel 11, he also referred to the Antichrist as the king of the North. The king of the North and the land of the North is what Jeremiah called the territory of the Assyria and Babylon. It was by the Assyrian empire that Israel was taken into captivity those many years before Christ (the real Christ), however the Assyrian Empire was conquered by the Babylonians in 626 B.C. Both the Assyrian capital of Asshur and the Babylonian capital of Babylon were located in present day Iraq.
August 3, 2008 at 9:40 pm
He is definetely the anti-christ, here are some reasons: He wants peace in the middle east. (The Bible says the anti-christ wants peace in the middle east. He is from muslim descent. He talks like he is Christ. Nostradamus said the world would end in 2012. If Obama gets elected he will be president until at least 2012. People are fainting in front of him like he is God. He said he wants to be president of the most powerful nation. (He wants power, so does the anti-christ). He is in his 40’s. He wants to pull the troops out of iraq. If that’s not enough proof I will have more coming.
August 3, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Here I am again. Barrack will be a world leader. Nostradamus called the anti-christ ”mabus”. Obama proceeds bush for president. Lets add them together and see what we get OBAMABUSH. Now look at the middle of oba”mabus”h.
August 3, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Yep it’s me again. The Bible says the anti-christ will come from out of nowhere. (Figuratively). First like nobody knew about him and now whamo! Just like that he’s is just about worshipped by many. People faint in his presence! Oh yah, did you know that George Bush was behind 911 and the destruction of the twin towers. Benny Hinn is a false prophet. There is actually mind control devices, and they could be in you (maybe from birth even). Mind control has been invented about 20 years ago. No joke! E-commerce invisible tatoos might be the mark of the beast. The rapture will probably happen in 2012 or 2009. 2009 because The tribulation is seven years long and Obama will seven years left from2009 if he gets elected twice. Just something to think about.
August 4, 2008 at 5:29 am
The Antichrist Obama and his Pro-Abortion Communist Gestapo will CHANGE USA into USSA – United Socialist States of America.
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August 4, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Franklin,
Want to hear something even more interesting? One of BHO/AC political advisors is a fellow named Ray “Mabus” don’t believe me look it up his name is Raymond Mabus former governor of Mississippi (If I remember correctly)and ambassador to Saudia Arabia under the Clinton administration!!! Check that out!!!
August 9, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Anyone paying attention to Georgia and Russia these days…it has begun…I weep for God’s creation(s)…
August 9, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Cosmotone, LOVE IT. My German isn’t all that, but I loved it.
August 10, 2008 at 12:32 am
look at what the authors of the most famous end times books have to say
CAROL STREAM, Ill., Aug. 8 /Christian Newswire/ — John McCain’s campaign ad “The One” has generated a lot of buzz regarding the “Left Behind Series.” Political commentators are comparing McCain’s portrayal of competitor Barack Obama with the blockbuster apocalyptic series’ depiction of the antichrist. But even the series authors Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins don’t think Obama is the antichrist. What may have been created as a farce has generated a firestorm of controversy on the internet.
LaHaye and Jenkins take a literal interpretation of prophecies found in the Book of Revelation. They believe the antichrist will surface on the world stage at some point, but neither see Obama in that role. “I’ve gotten a lot of questions the last few weeks asking if Obama is the antichrist,” says novelist Jenkins. “I tell everyone that I don’t think the antichrist will come out of politics, especially American politics.”
“I can see by the language he uses why people think he could be the antichrist,” adds LaHaye, “but from my reading of scripture, he doesn’t meet the criteria. There is no indication in the Bible that the antichrist will be an American.”
Jenkins and LaHaye don’t take McCain’s commercial or the antichrist speculation over Obama too seriously.
Pundits have pointed out that there are similarities between the “Left Behind Series” character Nicolae Carpathia and Obama. Other than some vocabulary and charisma, Carpathia, a young Romanian politician who eventually oversees a one-world government, and Obama don’t have much in common. “If even the people who created the character Nicolae Carpathia don’t see the comparisons as warranted, then perhaps this is overblown,” says Jenkins.
“Left Behind” is a series of 16 apocalyptic novels (1995-2007/Tyndale House Publishers) using end time prophecies in Revelation as a framework. All sixteen books reached the “New York Times” bestseller list with seven reaching the #1 spot. Overall more than 63 million copies have sold in the “Left Behind” product line. For more information on the “Left Behind Series,” visit http://www.leftbehind.com.
August 10, 2008 at 2:46 pm
No one in this world can be more powerfull than the president of the US.
So, we must pay atention to any one that came to be ” the one “.
Say that you will destroy every differenc between the nations and people and make union among all the religions is the speech from de anti christ.
So, we dont´t say he is ” the one “, but he put’s himself in this place.
A true christian is alwyas loking for the epyfania and today looks that everything is placed to start this event.
August 13, 2008 at 12:21 pm
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August 13, 2008 at 12:29 pm
“All will be lost to all who have refused His precious sacrifice to follow after humanism” ?… It was Humanism that got you Here, you Weakbrains! Without it you wouldn’t even know how to read! let alone read the Bible. You’d all be slaves to the kings in Europe. No books, no school, no light bulbs, no food, no tv, no internet, no cars, no planes. No knowledge, no freedom. Just working your butt off under a whip from 8 in the morning until 8 in the evening. Would you like that? Well, at least you crazyjobs wouldn’t have so much free time to waste thinking about bullshit!
Instead of reading so much the Bible, how about reading a little more of your own History???
August 13, 2008 at 12:38 pm
The writings in the Bible have been used throughout history to justify both the greatest achievements of mankind AND ALSO the worst atrocities commited against other fellow humans.
Even the devil himseld used and distorted God’s own words to tempt both Eve in Paradise and Jesus Christ in the desert.
A wise man called Socrates once said – “I only know that i know nothing.”
And there’s a reason why he is the very first great philosopher we study in school – it is because the true love for knowledge always comes together with true humbleness.
Me, i’m sick and tired of semi-analphabetic Bible reasers and quoters who go around preachers to others as if they know everything.
Markus Bode, from Germany
AND I don’t need YOU to pray for me. You pray for yourselves!!!
August 13, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Markus,
You are so wrong when you say “true love for knowledge always comes together with true humbleness”… knowledge does not equate humilty.. as knowledge (as is the truth) is subjective to the bearer/seeker so then too would be humilty. Further more just because one possesses knowledge does not mean one possesses the truth…ignorance breeds ignorance this is true… but knowledge does not breed truth.
History is littered with man’s knowledge, but more often than not, they act/stand upon the knowledge and still deny the truth. You cannot claim that knowledge equates humilty when in reality only the truth equates humilty. As far as praying for you, in truth, humilty and knowledge I will not be doing that… with one so prideful as yourself there would be no need as God already knows your spirit…
August 13, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Obama the AntiChrist? You bet. Read the most important fact based prophecy ever written. http://www.freedompressintl.com “Trojan Whores ~The Road to Armaggedon~
August 14, 2008 at 7:42 pm
J.D.
Very interesting site you posted above. I am currently reading the “Faith of Barack Obama and The Obama Nation”. Perhaps I will purchase “Trojan Whores-The Road to Armageddon”. It does look interesting.
August 16, 2008 at 11:16 am
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah…
…and everybody is a prophet of doom…
Such good faith in God…
Such good faith in Mankind…
Ah, the grandeurs of self-delusion…
( chuckles )
August 16, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Markus,
I am sad for you. You speak of “grandeurs of self-delusion”…Whose delusion? You seek to mock the messenger(s). When you stand before God you will be unable to say you did not know, you were not told, or that you did not understand… God has stopped listening to your excuses.
August 16, 2008 at 10:06 pm
WTF is wrong it you guys? I really don’t see why you think he is antichrist, because he’s black you racists fu***? Whats the problem of having a Black President? Im not black but i really think he can do a better Job than that stupid guy Mcain and Bush together. Bush is the one might cause apocalypse in my view and Mcain is going in the same way.
August 16, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Rick Shan,
As you are new here, so it seems, please refrain from using curse words. They offend me. Even the implied ones.
There is nothing wrong with having a black president, as a matter of fact, I would gladly vote for a black president were a suitable candidate to be running.
Please do not get your knickers in a twist, BHO/AC will be president. You will get what you want/deserve with the election of BHO/AC.
Do not make accusations of racism that you cannot prove. I, for one, do not assert that BHO being the antichrist has anything to do with/because of his race; rather I am sharing what I was told by God, and, what I witnessed/experienced in my dreams. Had God told me the third antichrist was you, Ghandi, President Bush, MLK, JFK, my own Mother, Cher, Madonna (by the way she is an AC) (the physical body of anyone else) my message would have been (and will be) the same.
Just how is your race/ethinic background pertinate to the conversation here?
Food for thought, just because you choose not to understand/accept who/what BHO/AC is really about, will not make it less true.
And for the record it is not my job to make you understand or accept this information, it is my job to share the message that is all. Consider yourself informed; it is up to you to discern the truth through prayer.
Peace to all!!
August 17, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Well… at least they haven’t called him the Boogyman – yet! 🙂 Black males have been demonized throughout American history. Unfortunately, I think we brothas become immune, but enjoy proving such attacks absurd.
Example. The U.S. military issued propaganda to spread rumors to suggest that Black American male soldiers were half human and half ape/monkey…They even went so far as to suggest that these Black American soldiers possessed monkey tails under their uniforms!!! By promoting these vicious and unfounded lies the guilty parties thought that they would scare White European women from seeking these “savages”…But like the old saying goes curiosity is what killed the cat and in this case that is what literally happened!!! 😉
Now, think about John McCains recent ad that states, “hot chicks love Obama;” what’s the political correlation? Absolutley none – except to instill FEAR. I hope this tidbit was helpful
August 17, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Marlon,
I was going to try and respond to your assertions but the more I read over your post I know it would do no good to do so. There are somethings/issues that no matter how the arguement against/for is presented it would fall on deaf hears, your post would be one of those times. Please be reminded racism is a double edged sword and will cut both ways.
August 17, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Did anyone catch the Saddleback Civil Forum last night? Your opinion please? Did this confirm or change anyone’s mind of BHO being or not being the AC? Why or why not?
August 18, 2008 at 3:32 pm
So kids. I followed Cosmotone’s link which led me to a link to a link, etc. and I ended up ordering my Obama for Anti-Christ bumper sticker. It has a black backfground. It features Obama’s face coming up out of flames on the extreme left. Underneath it says Obama-Anit-Christ ‘0″. The rest of it is dominated by the word THINK in large white letters. I cut the word off and just put the cool part on. I got it from a company kind of like cafe press called Zazzle. I think they have the T-shrit too. Y’all check it out.
August 18, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Marlon,
After considerable prayer and thought I think I will respond to one part of your last post.
“Now, think about John McCains recent ad that states, “hot chicks love Obama;” what’s the political correlation? Absolutley none – except to instill FEAR. I hope this tidbit was helpful”
How is your “implied” race baiting tidbit helpful?
August 19, 2008 at 6:46 pm
I would like to share a dream I had last night… In my dream I am sitting outside on my swing reading my Bible; I am reading in Gensis where Cain kills Able. All of a sudden I see a shadow appear beside me, I look to my left to see BHO/AC standing there with Able’s blood on his hands. All of a sudden BHO/AC looks at me and puts his finger to his mouth and says…Shhhh. Then he disappears.
When I awoke this morning I opened my Bible to read Gensis where Cain kills Able… All of sudden I know every cell in my body vibrates with dread (I see the word Kaine appear before my eyes and then as quickly as it came it disappeared) that the Cain from the Bible is the Kaine that will be BHO/AC VP pick. Is there a Kaine running for VP does anyone know?
August 19, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Answered my own question, I did an internet search for “Kaine” indeed there is a Tim Kaine Governor of VA, and, he is in the running as BHO/AC VP stakes”. Interesting.
Guess I should really watch/read the news more, but it is just depressing the way reporters and news media outlets fawn over BHO/AC I cannot watch it or read it; it makes me physically sick!
August 27, 2008 at 7:00 pm
I believe you my father has been telling me this all along. IT’S IN THE BIBLE what more proof does anyone need. I am not voting for his ass. I will not be part of the earths downfall
August 30, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Wow, Thursday night (Obama’s Acceptance Speech) was so exciting. Oh you know all the crying and looking like they were in trance. How wonderful because you know what that means!
If this man isn’t the Anti-Christ, then the Anti-Christ that we have been waiting for is on the way.
I do feel sorry for those who are being deceived now and those who will be deceived when the actual Anti-Christ is revealed.
All this means is that the LORD IS COMING!!! Come quickly LORD JESUS!!!
September 3, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Barack Obama Is the anti-christ…. I Know It for A Fact, Check This.. i Made researches .. and the bible says that The anti-christ will reign for seven years ,, Who did so.. George W. Bush,,, But The anti-christ is not him seeing as he not not Make WonderS To the World ,,, Then i thought Who Is making Wonders worldwide… BARACK OBAMA :O ,,,
September 3, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Dont You See Barack Obama ,, Fist Every single Prophecy of the bible ,,, That One Shall Be Loved By Everyone,, (appear) ,, This is Exactly What Going on . I dont Trust Obama ,, I did,,, But ..
September 7, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Rapture Ready,
Yes, I caught BHO/AC speech, I was moved the way Oprah cried her fake eye lashes off. (Is my sarcasm too much?)
September 20, 2008 at 2:39 am
Seems to me the end any way is comming the darkness is increasing and many people are trying their best to act as Gods etc. it has long been dark with the media & sin increasing etc. watch always for Jesus inside your hearts as he declared only a kingdom of hubelness and meakness to reflect his glory of love and grace of the father the son and the holy sprit one in love and one because of love= self deniel – any way BHO / AC is inviting us to fake world of peace that only comes from within peace that the whole world does not know only the ones who are humble receive it by the holy sprit of the lamb that was silently crucified – get ready carry your cross every day – martyrs of the last days – you are gifted not only by faith but by pain for the sake of the silent lamb – endure and you will…….
September 20, 2008 at 2:42 am
Seems to me the end any way is comming the darkness is increasing and many people are trying their best to act as Gods etc. it has long been dark with the media & sin increasing etc. watch always for Jesus inside your hearts as he declared only a kingdom of humbelness and meakness to reflect his glory of love and grace of the father the son and the holy sprit one in love and one because of love= self deniel – any way BHO / AC is inviting us to a fake world of peace , that only comes from within peace that the whole world does not know only the ones who are humble receive it by the holy sprit of the lamb that was silently crucified – get ready carry your cross every day – martyrs of the last days – you are gifted not only by faith but also by pain for the sake of the silent lamb – endure and you will…….pass over !!!
September 29, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Is anyone here watching what is going on with the world market(s)? Anyone hearing the rumblings of the “Truth Squads” that BHO/AC has created to persecute/arrest those that disagree with him? Time to suit up Christians with the Armour of God!! You can no longer “sit and wait” to see what unfolds. The time is now!!!
September 30, 2008 at 9:49 am
I haven’t posted in here for quite some time but tonight I have read over many of the posts since I was last in here. I see alot of people who are skeptical to put it nicely that God exists let alone the devil. I have a book that I just read that everyone who does not believe and even those who do believe should read. It is a very interesting book and the title in itself should peak your interest. The name of the book is:
23 Minutes in Hell
If you are too lazy or too busy to read it yourself you can download audio of the author speaking about his experience at the following website:
http://www.freecdtracts.com/cd_1.htm
September 30, 2008 at 10:45 am
Since the last time I posted back in January or February alot has happened. Barrack’s acceptance speech to over 70,000 in Denver’s football stadium ( the devil has always wanted to be worshipped by man which is why he tried to take over heaven but he and a third of the angels were cast out of heaven). What was that speech if it wasn’t a gathering to worship Obama?
Then Obama makes this whirl wind tour of Europe and you would think that Obama was running for President of the world….but then again he just might be. It is one thing to have the people of your own country flocking to see a candidate but to have people of every country he went to flocking in to see him and to hear him speak is totally unheard of. There is something more to Barrack Hussein Obama than just normal charisma. It is like he has a power over people.
Oh, and those who have posted here saying that no one can know who the Anti-Christ is or that they would not be able to resist him because of his charisma, I say bologna! If you are well grounded in Jesus Christ and the Bible which is the word of God you can feel when there is evil around. I have seen people walk into a room and a sudden rush of pure evil come over me. My daughter was dating a guy and they came over for Thanksgiving dinner. As soon as he walked into the room I felt evil enter into the house to the point that I became sick and had to excuse myself. A few weeks later, this young man was arrested as one of the gunmen that had been robbing fast food restaurants in our area.
So, as you can see, well grounded Christians will be able to sense when evil people are in their presence. This is called discernment. So, just as I could not have been able to tell you exactly what this boyfriend of my daughter had done, I still knew there was evil all around him. I agree that we cannot say 100% that a person is the Anti-Christ but we can sense the great evil. Barrack exudes evilness everytime I see or hear him. There have been many times that people said this person or that person was the Anti-Christ and were wrong.
But, with the amount of Bible Prophecy that has come to pass since 1948 when the country of Israel was re-established in one day as had been prophesied in the Bible for that exact day, it is apparent that we are in the end times and Christ’s returning for his people is very, very close. So, knowing this and seeing Bible Prophecy coming to pass on almost a daily basis on TV news programs it is not unfathomable that a well grounded Christian might be able to sense the Anti-Christ through his evilness or those who may help the Anti-Christ.
As I stated before, Obama matches up to alot of the traits that are attributed to the Anti-Christ.
The Anti-Christ will rise to power quickly, 4 years ago Barrack Obama had just been elected as a first term Senator and hasn’t even finished that first term but is a step away from becoming the President of the United States the most powerful man in the world.
The Anti-Christ will be a man of great charisma and people will be drawn to him for no reason at all even Christians who are not strong in their faith. Even though Obama hasn’t ever had any experience with balancing a budget or running even the smallest city has convinced alot of people he has the answers to the economic problem that we are in now and is drawing people to his side.
The Anti Christ will broker a 7 year peace treaty between Israel and the Muslim countries around it. Who would the Israelis trust better than the President of the United States and who would the Muslims trust more than someone who at least appears to be one of their own.
Again, I will not sit here and spew false prophecy but will tell you that Obama has a high probability of being the Anti-Christ that is prophesied about in the book of Revelation.
Those who want to come in here and spew their volgarities and try to dispute every thing that is said about Obama, you can believe what you want to believe but when you stand before God on judgement day you can’t say I wasn’t told about this.
I pray that God will send a great revival across this nation and across the world so that atleast some of those who still do not have a relationship with Jesus will be drawn into the church and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. “On that day (judgement day)every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord of All.” You can deny it right up to the last minute if you want but then you will have to confess it and those who have not accepted Jesus will be cast into the lake of fire with Satan and his angels (demons) to spend eternity being tortured. Remember, God wants that no one should go to hell but spend eternity with Him in heaven. So, God isn’t making anyone go to hell, they are choosing to go to hell by choosing not to follow Jesus. You are either with Him or against Him there is nothing inbetween. You can’t get to heaven by helping little old ladies across the street all your life or just by being a GOOD person. Jesus said,”I am the way the truth and the life, No man comes to the Father except through me.” It has nothing to do with ego it is the way God set it up.
I hear people say all the time, “what if you are wrong?” If I’m wrong, I die, I get put in the ground and that is it. If I am right though and you are wrong then when you die, you get thrown in a lake of fire to burn for eternity. And just so you know you will have a body and feelings in hell. Take a second, close your eyes and try to invision burning with no water or anything to drink or cool yourself off with and there is nothing you can do to get away from the heat of the fire. Not a pretty thought is it? Which one would you want to take a chance on?
October 6, 2008 at 4:08 pm
If Barack Obama is in fact the antichrist let me be the first to admit that I am rejoicing in that information. Think about this: Why would any Christian be unexcited by that fact? Answer: Sin in their life. I know I am living right. I know I am walking in holiness. I am okay with God in the way that I live today, at least I hope I am. I couldn’t always say that but today I know it. I may not have completed every thing I hoped to in my lifetime but I have thirty something days to do all of it, if Obama is indeed the coming antichrist. There are many areas where I have fallen short of my potential. And that may cause me some heavenly treasures but the bottom line is the bible says the righteous scarcely make it in and if this is true then I will be one who scarcely makes it in, for the fact that I have not completed the things that I hoped to complete by this point in my life.
In fact, truth be told, the only people who need fear the coming of the antichrist are the unrighteous, at least that is how I see this whole thing. Why would any Christian in right standing not vote for a candidate believed to be the antichrist? If he is the antichrist I will be first to cast my vote cause it speeds up the time when Jesus will return. I think if these well-meaning Christians searched beyond their own heart’s evil they would conclude the same thing. Because of foolish reasoning like theirs, I now understand why Jesus grew weary with and was so curt with the Pharisees and Sadducees.
Whatever your eschatological view one thing is for sure if Barak Obama is the antichrist, you know you have either thirty something days, three and a half years or seven years before the return of Christ if he becomes President. And for that reason alone any Christian in right standing should be eager to vote for not against Barak. At least that is what I believe. But I write not to persuade but to provoke you. Just think about the emails coming to dissuade you either way for this reason. Ask yourself what does this mean in God’s master plan for the universe. Then let your spiritual walk guide you not fear.
Another thing that concerned me about this email is that it said Barak came out of nowhere to be the Democratic Presidential candidate. This brief information alone lets me know two things about the author of this information. First, this person is not a student of world news and current events and for this reason alone I almost hesitated to respond to this email. But then I said this is just too good an opportunity to pass up. This emailer (just made up this word I think) is really writing and reasoning in ignorance, trying to use their fear to persuade the righteous to swing their vote, and cowering in cyberspace to do it. Ask anyone in Illinois and they can tell you exactly who he is. And if this doesn’t convince you that this assertion is false, here’s a thought ask those millions of people who read his writings. I mean you do know he was first a well-known and best selling author, right? I mean in case you didn’t see his book when you last visited Barnes and Noble to buy the one on your favorite reality TV show star, people knew him!!! It would seem a difficult feat to be both a famous author and living in obscurity.
We won’t go into his professional accomplishments before running for office, I guess these things never really put him in a position to run for the Senate. Goodness, he was a lawyer, became a senator, now running for president. It is not a far stretch of the imagination for a Senator to run for president. It’s not like he was a shepherd one day and king the next. He wasn’t in the wilderness eating locust and honey one day baptizing the Messiah the next. He wasn’t hiding wheat one day leading an army of three hundred for God on the next. Any well rounded individual, Christian or not, would know the difference between normally and abnormally progressive careers. God doesn’t often use the obvious to bring about his prophecy but it is my humble opinion that Barak’s career progressed in as normal a fashion as any other president who served before him. And if he turns out to be antichrist in the process well then I am ready for the coming of Christ. How about you? If he was selling cocaine or crack on some urban street corner one day running for office of President the next then tell me he came out of nowhere.
And I won’t mention the fact that during a time when black men in the home with their first and only wife and children is a completely foreign concept in America he has somehow found the wherewithal to do it. The nerve of that black man. How dare he overcome the statistics? And for that accomplishment alone you better believe someone somewhere knew this man before he became the Democratic Candidate. You would really have to have grown up in a Cracker Jack box to think he came out of no where. Honestly.
I don’t know Barak or Michelle. Never met the Obamas. Not being paid by them. And really I don’t care who you vote for this November. But I am passionate about one thing and that is seeing the will of God come to pass. So please as one Christian to the next please do not think for one minute that if Barak is the antichrist that scare tactics will persuade or change the counsel of God. God has already set the ball in motion, no man can change that. If he is antichrist. I suggest you get ready for the return of Christ. Make sure you’re living right, repent, get baptized, get the Holy Ghost, speak in tongues, and you’ll be fine.
The bible has been around for centuries telling the same story of the antichrist to come. Why pray each and everyday, “Thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven,” and then turn into some paranoid, unstable Christian and say no, no, no we can’t vote for this person cause they are antichrist. Watch out for that person they may be antichrist. I am sick of the indecisive, schizophrenic spirit that has paralyzed the church. These unstable, double minded views have caused people to run away from the church. You can’t want Jesus to return and then say you don’t want the very event that foreshadows his coming to occur, it reveals your spiritually bipolar state of mind.
If Barak becomes president, I hope he is the antichrist I mean who wants to hear about women raped, children molested, brothers being beaten, shot, murdered, and disproportionately incarcerated. Who wants to fight against racial divides, hear about serial killers and stalkers running amuck? Who wants to see some heartless woman on trial for poisoning, drowning, or killing her children, and blaming some black man, a ruthless man on trial for killing his wife and blaming some black man? Who wants to hear about children hiring their friends to assassinate their parents for their inheritance or churches ordaining gays, who openly live in sin against God, as representatives of Christ? Who wants to see how the richest men and women in the world spend their free time and money when you have people, families destitute and living in complete poverty or men ruled by greed making decisions that cause people to lose their livelihood, pensions, and retirement savings? Who desires to stay here on earth with all the other countless lewd and abominable acts that we hear, see, and read in this perilous and spiritually trying time, called today.
I’d rather be in heaven then here on earth with this foolishness on any given day! And any one who knows they are a Christian in right standing with God would not allow the possibility of Barak being the antichrist of Revelations 13 to keep them from casting their vote for him. In fact, I would help with the campaign if it meant Jesus returns from heaven sooner. It would not make a whole lot of sense to vote against him to me. I have tried to make sense of this don’t vote for Barak cause he’s the antichrist email circulating the internet but it makes none to me. I wonder what my grandmother would say about the person who wrote that mess. How would she have perceived this inability to grasp the full revelation of what it means if Barak is antichrist. Victorious in Christ,
October 7, 2008 at 1:45 am
You might want to reconsider voting for Obama if you believe he is the Antichrist, as many true Christians do, because you WILL be held ACCOUNTABLE for supporting Evil. God does not need our help to bring about His plan. I would suggest you pray and read your Bible. We need our faith to be strong, knowing and believing Gods Word and having it deeply rooted in our hearts. I pray God protect His people in these last days.
October 8, 2008 at 4:17 am
Tuck,
You speak eloquently, and, I can tell you believe what you say.
I disagree with your assertions and the rationalizations you make to defend them though.
First, you state that, “If BHO is in fact the AC let me be the first to admit that I am rejoicing in that information. Think about this: Why would any Christian be unexcited by that fact? Answer: Sin in their life.”
You assert that only the sinful would be “unexcited” about the arrival of the AC, hog wash, why/how would/could anyone “rejoice” at someone else’s misery. I am not excited about the destruction of lives at the expense of my having “lived a good life.” My concern is for those living without God, that far outwieghs my concern about my “reward of heaven” and whether it comes quickly or not”.
Second, you state that, “Why would any Christian in right standing not vote for candidate believed to be the AC?”
Are you kidding me, let me ask you this did Jesus rebuke the devil in the wilderness or did he capitulate and concede to the devil? You know full well what His response was.
Third, you state that, “Whatever your eschatological view one thing is for sure if Barak Obama is the antichrist, you know you have either thirty days, three and a half years or seven years before the return of Christ if he becomes President.
Please clarify “thirty days, three and a half years or seven years”? Which is it? If you are “living right” you would know exactly which time frame; if not then you would only parrot what you have been told. Those who study the “Bible” know and understand the time frame for the events of the Bible; they do not know the date true, but they do know just how much time it will take for the events to unfold.
Fourth, you stated that, “And for that reason alone any Christian in right standing should be eager to vote for not against Barak”.
Do you really believe this? Who has given you the authority to judge who is in “right standing” and how can a vote for BHO be considered “Christian”? That statement highlights your ignorance on what it means to be a Christian.
You speak of your concern that whoever sent out this email “was not a student of the world news and current events” to back up this claim you pointed out that “ask anyone in Illinois and they can tell you exactly who he is” NEWS FLASH…. Illinois is one small part of a very large world. Until this man started running for President no one knew him much less cared to know him!!!
As for his “professional accomplishments” name them please. List them for those of us who cannot find one thing that has prepared/qualified him to be President.
I find it interesting that you compare BHO to John the Baptist. BHO is no John the Baptist; as John the Baptist knew he was not the Messiah unlike BHO.
As for your race baiting paragraphs, when all else fails BHO can always rely on his minnions to “pull the race” issue out and parade it around to deflect any further examinations of who and what he is and what he stands for.
If you really did not care who we vote for you would not be here “rationalizing” why we should vote for this fraud!! So stop the pretense.
As for your “But I am passionate about one thing and that is seeing the will of God come to pass. So please as one Christian to the next please do not think for one minute that if Barak is the antichrist that scare tactics will persuade or change the counsel of God. God has already set the ball in motion, no man can change that. This is quite true, and just so you know, neither will BHO winning or losing the Presidency. BHO is who he is, by God’s will and no other!!!!
You again judge us to be “paranoid, unstable Christains” because we choose not to buy into your assertion that BHO is some sort of god to be worshipped and fauned over. You declare that our disagreement over BHO, who by the way IS the AC, that it “reveals our spiritually bipolar state of mind” please elaborate on this. Because it sounds like you you have judged us to be spiritually lacking in some way… Should we thank BHO/AC for sending you to us to save us from ourselves!! I’ll be sure to get a personal email out to BHO/AC thanking him for you!
Within your next to the last paragraph I see you finally got to the crux of why you have judged us to be “indecisive schizophrenics” you have built your entire argument on bigotry and envy. You seem to assume that anyone who has worked hard to achieve success and who has made good, sound, and smart decisions to be as successful as they possibly could be should be in some way punished for that. Why? Why should anyone else be held accountable for someone else’s bad decicions? Should I hold you accountable for my bad decisions? Of course not, God does not/will not judge us that way, so what gives you the authority to do so?
As for your last paragraph, you seem to think that they only way for BHO to fulfill scripture is if he elected… you are wrong here… BHO is the AC and that does not change win or lose… Either way I will not be rejoicing that BHO/AC has come, on the contrary, I am very subdued by the thought of what is to come. My heart hurts for those who have been decieved to worship at the feet of BHO/AC. We must gird ourselves with the Armour of God and prepare for battle.
Tuck, please accept my apology if I offended you in anyway.. offending you is not my purpose/goal… But there is no need to rationalize to us here why you choose to support BHO/AC. We need no explanation, nor do we need or want to understand why you will be voting for BHO/AC… like the commerical says “Just Do It”. Do not expect me to agree and certainly do not expect me support that decision… I will not be held accountable for it… you will
Peace to all!!!
October 10, 2008 at 12:00 am
Christ didn’t say he would judge you by who you voted for! He said he’s gonna ask one thing and that’s “I was hungry, did you feed me?” and “I was naked, did you clothe me?”.
October 10, 2008 at 1:46 am
The thing which will help us attain the Kingdom of Heaven is our belief in Christ.
And yes,did we help to feed and clothe those in need? I think this is our ultimate time of testing for that.
October 10, 2008 at 1:54 am
I believe God will give us definite signs when it is time for Christ’s return. And there isn’t just ‘the anti-christ’ but anti-Christs in general — that’s what I believe anyway — call me crazy, but I think they are indeed ‘coming out’. I think how we live in the U.S. and around the world is going to change drastically in the next several years. Our capitalistic country might well become something else entirely. Does that mean the Anti Christ is in our midst? I don’t know — but to whatever end, keep your faith in Christ alive and be watchful. If it happens, well, it will, and if it doesn’t in our lifetimes, then we have to worry for our children and teach them to know who they are in our beloved Savior, Christ.
October 10, 2008 at 5:49 am
I am a person that is very knowledgable on bible prophecy and ahead of most bible prophecy teachers. I can say this about the Antichrist; Only the very spiritual will be able to identify him. I know that most people find this hard to believe, but the bible says he will deceive many. This includes most of the world. The reason I believe he will deceive so many is that he will be act and do things that will disarm their faith at the basic level. So, those that do not have faith in Christ through the Holy Spirit will be deceived. Only those that have the Holy Spirit will be able to see the truth. This is critically important. Many will not be able to understand the number of the man of sin or think it to be a joke. God is telling us something by these signs, but the unfaithful will be spit out of his mouth. Just because you call yourself a christian does not mean the Holy Spirit knows you to be a christian, and so he will reject that person who does not have him. So, the line will be drawn by how the Holy Spirit guides you. – On the matter of the Antichrist, he will deceive with false acts. But, as always, the Lord will send one of his to act on his behalf to heal the land. So, be not fooled by these two. One will do great acts for and in the name of the Lord, but the Antichrist will do other acts that will deceive. Again, your faith will be tested by knowing who is the Lord’s servant and the Antichrist himself. – The bible tells us that many will be saved during the end times. This is a result of the Lord’s servant that comes to show the way to the Lord. His works will be good and you can see that they are good. – But the Antichrist’s works and message will be false and like april fools but will speak to those that are lost. Only true christians will see and understand the true message.
October 12, 2008 at 3:28 am
You know, the anti-Christ is supposed to come from Magog. But then its all symbolic. Most certainly Barack’s ideology comes from Magog. But I don’t think he is “the one”. I think he is the prophet of one who will come after him. Its just a kind of gut feeling.
October 12, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Everyone can talk about what they think or what they do or do not believe, but I am just excited to KNOW that no matter what happens in this world, whether Barack is or is not the AC or we are being taken over by socialism or the world is going to melt down today. God is in control! He loves us and desires for us to love Him. What matters is are we loving our neighbor? Regardless of how he treats us?
I respect everyone’s view. My faith is simple and I believe it is strong but I do believe that some day we will all be accountable.
October 16, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Do you have any idea how many “prophets” have come after Jesus who wrongly accused others of being the Antichrist? And do you have any idea of how even more morons have followed those? And do you have any idea of how much wrong those rumors have caused?
Was 666 Reagan the antichrist? Was 666 Bill Clinton the antichrist?
And what prove can you give us, JC, that God has endorsed you to speak in His name?
” God has stopped listening to my excuses”???
How would you SAP know???????
“WHo is like God”?…
Who dares???
October 16, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Ihr schimpft über uns Politiker
Sied uns nur am kritisieren
Ihr wisst ja nicht
wie schwer das ist
so Ein Volk mal zu regieren
“Kanzler sein”
October 16, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Und die Jahre ziehen ins Land
und wir trinken immer noch ohne Verstand…
October 16, 2008 at 2:32 pm
From Die Toten Hosen bible
Prost!
October 16, 2008 at 2:33 pm
no, sorry.
– HELLAS!!!
October 16, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Marcus,
“And what prove can you give us, JC, that God has endorsed you to speak in His name?”
I stated many posts ago that God has not required of me to convince anyone of the message, He simply required that I share it. I have done so; and I will not ask/plead/nag anyone to accept it. Were He too have charged me to convince you or anyone else; I would have obediently done so.
God does not “endorse” anyone to speak in His name. He asks that we love and obey Him. Do you have proof that I do not love God or that I have been disobedient to Him? If so please share it here.
Geri, we are entering into socialism as this is part of God’s plan. If you have ever read the about the fall and rise of the Roman Empire we are mirroring the mistakes that they made. As we invite islam/sharia law and other Godless ideas to rule us we will continue this downward spiral to hell. Man’s era of self rule is coming to an end.
Jazz Man, I have now read 23 Minutes in Hell, a very stark/honest and sobering look at what the Bible says about hell. Definate interesting read. Thank you for suggesting it.
Peace to all!!!
October 16, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Marcus,
I am certainly no scholar of/the German language/scholar, your posting the lyrics of Die Toten Hosen, “His Chancellor”, totally amusing. I am laughing really hard at your attempt to make yourself seem superior to us. Good for you my friend you are now superior to us. I am happy for you that you can wrap yourself in your smugness just as your leader BHO the antichirst has done!!!
October 18, 2008 at 3:48 pm
I don’t know if Barack Obama is the anti- Christ or not.
I think God will give definite signs to believers in Christ. I understand that Satan will overtake and indwell in the first beast and the second beast — the false prophet — will make everyone bow down and worship the first. Both will appear to be human and will have seeming come from no where.
About Barack Obama:
He’s making it known he doesn’t care for anyone to speak out against him. I think people at Fox News should be concerned that if he gets in, he’ll try to shut them down. Hitler did the same thing about those who were against him. And remember, he had them murdered. Can Sen. Obama gain that kind of power while in the White House? Anything is possible — especially if the Democrats control the other two branches of government and start re-writing the constitution. So many people are ignorant of government and about our constitutional freedoms — and won’t realize what has hit them until it’s too late.
He has ties to terrorism and Islam.
His socialist agenda of spreading the wealth.
He has amassed millions of dollars for his campaign. The money never seems to stop from flowing in from somewhere. Probably the Middle East.
Not to sound too much like the ‘Omen’, but I find it odd that no one knows where Sen. Obama was born. So many conflcts about this. He’s not divulging that and there is no proof forthcoming. Why is it such a big secret and why aren’t his records being released?
All this gives cause for pause and makes a person wonder.
I think the fifth trumpet has already sounded.
October 19, 2008 at 1:38 am
It may be so. I’m undecided about what Obama is. From an atheist perspective, or from a conservative Christian perspective … his election will mark the end of the ‘Great Experiment’ that was American democracy. So passes an era.
I’m too old to immigrate unless one of my kids moves to someplace interesting to watch the last chapter of the United States on CNN.
October 19, 2008 at 5:14 am
Don’t forget the NEOCONs ( israeli spies ) in the white house and pentagon who put bush in power!! They ran the ship of state aground. Don’t let them escape!!
October 20, 2008 at 3:07 pm
AWaytoTruth,
Yes, you are correct some of BHO/AC monies have come from outside of the US, most of which has been channeled/funneled through relatives living here in the US. Tony Rezko and a host of others with whom BHO/AC has allied himself with over the course of his lifetime have provided these services. Their repayment will be having an allie in the White House who will be more than happy to do their bidding.
In looking at this election cycle I have not heard very much about BHO/AC past. Yes we have heard about Wright, Pfluger, Ayers, Rezko, Jones, ACORN, and others in some of the media. They have portrayed these folks as “associations” of BHO/AC; when in fact, and in reality, they are “alliances” of BHO/AC.
Even in BHO/AC books about himself you know you are getting a guarded and guided narrow view of the real BHO/AC. You are getting the picture that BHO/AC wants you to see not the real thing. Espeically if you read them without consulting other sources. Like for example his voting record in the Illinois State Senate. BHO/AC truly talks one way and votes another, if he votes at all.
When he becomes President it will be impossible to ever find out what he really is at all. As BHO/AC will be controlling, even to a greater degree, what will be allowed to be printed and spoken about him. BHO/AC Truth Squads will be made law and the Fairness Doctrine will be revived and enforced. Thereby keeping the media in check. They will only be allowed to print or report what the Satan administration wants. Some say nah can’t happen, you want to bet? Just look around it happens every day.
Some sit quietly and listen with abated breath for BHO/AC, now known also as the “transformational one”, to speak.
As we await our demise at the alter of adulation of BHO/AC, those of us not transfixed by BHO/AC need to be ready for the eventual onslaught of terror that BHO/AC plans to unleash on us. BHO/AC worshippers will heap hate and scorn on those who do not share their devotion BHO/AC.
As Brad said, so passes the “Great Experiment” with one correction, we are a republic not a democracy.
Peace to all!!
October 22, 2008 at 11:29 pm
“Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death.”
October 23, 2008 at 11:04 pm
marcus, you know dude, its kinda like the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind where a rather interesting group of people were just drawn to a big geological feature. I imagine a lot of folks posting here were drawn here by a google search for Obama ati-Christ. It says a lot to me.
October 28, 2008 at 9:47 pm
I actually believed Obama was the Antichrist earlier this year. I was in a high speed car chase and out-ran 2 cop cars going over 130 mph and when I got home to turn on the tv there wasn’t any coverage about the chase, but a speech from Obama with about 10 American flags on either side of him. It just felt so evil, like this man is full of deception and is probably the antichrist.
I kind of brushed off the idea after a while. But we can obviously see that this guy is going to be president.
I found it intriguing that so many other people thought the same thing I did years in advance.
Could Obama still be the antichrist?
October 28, 2008 at 9:53 pm
I did have a recent dream about him though, thats why the idea has sparked my thought again.
I was observing this crowd that was waiting outside on a very dark and cloudy day. There was no sight of the sun it looked grey everywhere.
Then I saw Barack Obama begin to move through the audience dressed in a black cloak with a hood put on his head and as he passed by the people would manically yell MESSIAH!!!! very loudly
Creepy dream eh?
October 31, 2008 at 8:55 am
you are probably 100% right,but i like to know how you knew back in 2006
November 2, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Even i at one point started to feel this way but i didn’t tell anyone. So i picked up my bible and begin reading. What everyone seems to be forgetting, one very important ingrediant. The rappure has to have happend before the anti-crist rears his head.( and i know i would be gone if that has happend) So relax it isn’t him!!!!!
November 3, 2008 at 4:36 am
I noticed an old post by AWaytoTruth about being in between churches. I was wondering if you have explored the Orthodox Christianity. This is the most common Greek and Russian faith. Greeks welcome anybody to their churches. People are welcome to listen, just don’t take a communion. It requires confession, not just being babtized. I think only babtized people are allowed to stay for the second part of the Divine Lithurgy on Sunday (after the part when people greet one another with “good morning”). Anyway, greeks seem quite friendly, they don’t press anyone to accept their faith, but have Sunday schools and such. I may be biased, because I know quite a few greek people.
November 3, 2008 at 6:52 am
btw, BHO does not look spooky to me. I was amaized about his knowledge about some european country a few months ago. He was right on the target. I have lived in that country. I started to think that he is quite smart, but I had little knowledge about his faith, after all he grew up in a muslem country. So, I googled a bit and came to this page.
November 3, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I believe the bible states the rapture happens before the antichrist rears his ugly head, yes this is true. What it does not say is whether or not the antichrist has already begun the task set before him before the rapture begins. In order for the antichrist to be in power immediately after the rapture, he has to have some sort of weilding power immediately prior to the rapture, right? After the rapture he becomes the MOST powerful being on earth. Come on people, use the brains God gave you and think for yourselves! If, as many of you have said, Obama is the antichrist, this is his rise to power. No one knows for sure when Christ will come back. So if Obama is the antichrist, he’s just doing the footwork right now. Don’t let anyone tell you how to vote, use your own brain and decide for yourself! What will be wil be, God has already promised us that, so debating the issue right now is pointless. The only thing any of us can do is ensure your own relationship w/ Christ and God. That is the only thing that will save you in the end, regardless of who is the antichrist.
November 3, 2008 at 10:19 pm
As for “visions” that many have stated they have had, if this is the case, then my vision must have been completely wrong! God told me several years ago about the Antichrist. The man he told me about was born in the Middle East. He was Muslim all of his life, but eventually converted to Christianity. He is high up in the Christian world yet does “God’s” work all over the world, (at least outwardly it appears this way). Eventually he betrays the people, the same why the bible foretells. But his name and face were not that of Barrack Obama! So as far as “visions” are concerned….maybe God doesn’t want any of us to know who the antichrist is until Jesus comes back. Our asking him who the antichrist is puts God to the test. Who are WE to ask God anything about these matters? We should be trusting in HIM not questioning HIM.
November 5, 2008 at 2:32 am
Barack Obama is not the anti-Christ — that’s what I beleive anyway. The anti-Christ will be a spiritual leader — so unless Barack Obama all of a sudden becomes this great spiritual leader who unites us under one religion somehow, I don’t see him as this truly evil force. Anyhow, I think Sen.Obama, soon to be Prez. Obama I believe, is an atheist. I think this ‘Messiah’ stuff was used by him to shake up Christians. Well, sorry Barry, it didn’t work on me!lol
November 5, 2008 at 7:59 am
he will never be my messiah
July 19, 2020 at 3:36 pm
Obama’s the Antichrist.
On the same day as Obama gave his acceptance speech (same day that you wrote this comment friend.) the Illinois State Lottery’s winning Powerball numbers were #666, the Number of the Beast, (aka the Number of the Antichrist) .
God Lotto Numbers ! 666 Obama Antichrist
November 5, 2008 at 1:45 pm
The only reason why he had my support was because he “bought” my vote. I am in advertising and more democrats paid me for advertising than republicans. I earned a really nice commission off of the democratic party this year. And even if Obama is the anti-christ, he can have my soul as long as he is able to grant me Earthyly rewards. I’ll do anything to satisfy my lust and greed…
I believe that “change” is coming…
July 19, 2020 at 3:41 pm
Obama’s Lucifer and Satan-in-Person.
He’s the Antichrist. There’s no doubt possible.
Obama State Lottery Is 666 Day After Win
November 6, 2008 at 6:18 am
Would you guys please RAPTURE already so the rest of us can get some real humanitarian work done?
November 6, 2008 at 8:59 am
To Tuck
Your living right? Thats why you want antichrist to come and murder billions?
Brother..you couldnt buy a clue
We are saved through Faith in Christ..not by living right. People dont need just a little more time to do more good deeds so we can earn salvation. That very thinking shows a lack of faith in Christs saving work on the cross. So who needs more time?
Furthermore, Jesus Christ prayed that the cup of suffering would pass from HIM. HIM !!! He prayed if there could be another way for HIM. Do you not think he would pray for another way than the slaughter billions? So many Christians are LUSTING for antichrist. How about praying that the world can be saved? Christ was God himself..knew what must be–and STILL he prayed that the cup could pass.
Obama is a plagiarizing phony who packaged hope in a bottle–he even has a logo. He attracts people who have no God, thus no hope. No doubt there are signs of delusion among his followers but its not unlike others in history or even Pop star envy. I think he will drop like a stone.
But maybe..just maybe HE can change. God can change anyone. Sometimes leaders go in for ego and lust for power alone–and the office changes them and then actually become the person they claimed to be all along. Pray for him
If he remains a secular lightbringer–then he is no different than most anyone. If he’s the AC..all christians will know it. But as one wiseman once said…if this mans movement is from God(or evil)time will reveal it. Its clear that right now he is just teleprompter who followers seem much more diluted than him
July 19, 2020 at 3:44 pm
Obama’s been an example of exactly what the Antichrist was predicted to be.
Look: Obama’s State Lottery Is 666 Day After Win
He’s The One. Oprah was almost right: “Obama’s The One” all right. But the EVIL One. Not the Good One. He’s Satan..
July 19, 2020 at 3:47 pm
You’re right. Obama’s the Antichrist, yes!
Obama’s State Lottery Is 666 Day After Win
November 6, 2008 at 9:03 am
Part 2
Pray that God will reveal the real Christ to him–not the Rev Wright Jesus. Pray that he preaches Christ to his followers and they turn.
July 19, 2020 at 3:50 pm
Obama comes from the gay-dating church of Rev Wright.
Sodomy. That fits with the Abomination that the Antichrist’s predicted to be.
Dlwvision Obama 666 Coincidence NOT Lottery = Antichrist
it starts at 2:25
November 6, 2008 at 9:11 am
BTW
The majority of Christianity does not believe in this left behind rapture scenario. In fact there is not talk of it until a short time ago in history
You have been taught it. Sorry..but its just not there. No serious scholar reads the return of Christ anything but than an event seen by everyone. It is utterly preposterous to think God would whisk away the very people who must bear witness and endure the culmination of his plan
November 6, 2008 at 4:30 pm
John,
You are sooo right… there is no rapture. It is an illusion that Lucifer has created to fool many/most and keep them from God.
We Christains will endure the tribulation along with all those who are not saved through the blood of Jesuse. The tribulation time for those of us who love and obey God will endure this horrific time along with those who have no idea who God is. This period of suffering will be our testament to the power and glory of God. The suffering of the followers of Christ will be on display for all those who survive the tribulation period so as to give one last opportunity for them to repent and love God as He has loved us.
The majority of denominations/religions preach a false doctrine so as to keep their followers appeased/ignorant with/of the false promise of “being raptured” before the tribulation period. Not to mention they lie/preach that you can buy/tithe your way into heaven.
As for BHO/AC he is going to get his eight years in office to implement Lucifer’s plan. (Yes, BHO/AC will have a second term). These first three and one half will be hailed as a glorious triumph for mankind and the world will be duped into a false sense of security that this “God-like” creature has come to save us all. BHO/AC will surely save us from ourselves. BHO/AC will be worshipped around the world as a transformational figure who has restored the world to harmony.
BHO/AC will set the world on course to embrace even more false doctrines of the false religions of the world that claim God as the source/proof of their power/validity and divinity.
Christains now is the time to educate yourselves and turn to Jesus for your salvation do not be fooled/cajoled/harassed/appeased into accepting Lucifer as a saviour.
Peace to all!
July 19, 2020 at 5:33 pm
It’s twelve long years since your post that announced the mess before us.
Obama the Antichrist has destroyed the country from top to bottom.
Now is our time to call out Obama the liar. I’ve got his real name and real birthplace: Barry Parks, born in Topeka, Kansas. (it’s the same place his mother was born too…incredible that the birthers never went to ask the family there, isn’t it?)
I’ve got all the answers because I did a 12-year investigation and asked a lot of people lots of questions.
November 6, 2008 at 8:49 pm
i can’t believe someone voted for a president because they made more advertising money from them! that is one of the worst reasons i have heard so far for a vote for obama! and i have heard some real weird reasons why people have flocked to him. what happens in a year when the economy is soooooooo bad and there is no democratic money anymore, and you are on the street without a job! the only change you’re going to get is an address change!
people say obama can not be the antichrist as the antichrist will not be a political figure. i don’t see obama as a political figure as he has not accomplished anything politically yet! he has not brought a state out of poverty like bill clinton or helped bring a state out of depression like the bushes. yet he has some of the wealthiest people of the world backing him. why? he had people vote for him for some of the most stupid reasons I ever heard! it was like the election wasn’t about politics, but who waslike the most “in” person! kind of like junior high elections!
people say he is not a muslim, why? because he says he is a christian. that is like saying aliens exist because someone said they saw one. no one knows what obama does in the background. why is it many of his large contributions, which in part went to the advertising agency, are untraceable? scary!
i don’t know if this guy is the antichrist, but i do know something is wrong, because the only people who really needed change when obama started preaching it were those who don’t want to work for a living, but now he has many followers who have a great life who want their great life to change! like i have this great job and family and, but i want change! HUH!
what is scary about obama is he is leading people who seem blind to faith, humanity and are willing to give everything to him. they claim and he is claiming to be a savior. i don’t need another savior, i have one, thank you! i need someone who can be a president, not a little “in” thing with the weak at heart! whether he is an antichrist or not, he is definitely a scary future for those who don’t follow him! he may be a scary future for those who do follow him!
July 19, 2020 at 5:28 pm
Yeah, now it’s fourteen years since your comment the day after Obama’s election.
You said some damm prophetical words brother.
Yep, Obama’s the Antichrist no doubt possible about that.
What should we do now?
Obama’s bought a house just two miles from the White House and he’s lurking around there.
He’s the AC aka Satan.
Can we let him take over the world with his gangsters and psyop gangs of mobsters marxist activists?
We must stand up against the Antichrist says the Bible.
November 6, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Illinois state lottery 666 on 11/5/08. Obama results for president secured then we get the sign.
July 19, 2020 at 5:21 pm
Hi, look at this proof that Obama’s the Antichrist.
NEWSWEEK: Belief Watch: Is Obama the Antichrist?
https://www.newsweek.com/belief-watch-obama-antichrist-84741
One of the winning lottery numbers in the president-elect’s home state was 666— which, as everyone knows, is the sign of the Beast (also known as the Antichrist).
November 6, 2008 at 11:59 pm
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November 7, 2008 at 5:14 pm
OBAMA is the man he is not the antichrist hes just a man . so your telling me your all the antichrist cuz the white man came to this country and took it from the red man …
November 8, 2008 at 1:38 am
To, Darc, lol, you have to be kidding me! I could be wrong, but you must be an atheist then to so easily give your soul away (again, I don’t think Pres.-Elect Barack Obama is the anti-Christ, unless he becomes some great spiritual leader to unite us all under false pretences — then we’re all gonna be in seriously deep doo-doo). So you want earthly treasures you can get your hands on? That’s your choice, I guess. As for me, I store up my treasures in Heaven. I’ll take my chances with that one.
November 8, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Interesting reading to say the least!
Peace be amoung you! Love everyone, even those you consider to be your enemies. Go about helping those around you in selfless service. Be of good cheer; treat everyone like loving brothers and sisters should. The Lord is our Savior; it is undeniable! He heals the wounded of mind, heart, body, and soul! He gives freely of Himself and His perfect love to all of His children (us). Live each day, one-at-a-time.
Yes, we are in difficult times and soon…times will become much more difficult. Look at these times as a great challenge to your faith in Him that loves all! Go back to those teachings that the Master has spoken over 2,000 years ago. They ring true, even today and for eternity! He has shown us the way to the Father of ALL creation. We are ALL sons and daughters of our Living Father of Light and Love, so start acting like it! This I tell you IS the TRUTH! Give it YOUR attention my brothers and sisters and live your lives accordingly for the path to heaven is narrow and the path to destruction wide! I know from where I speak these words of truth and love.
May the blessing of our Father be upon you and all those who reside on this beautiful blue orb, we call Earth!
With Love,
James, the brother of John
November 9, 2008 at 1:15 am
interesting to say the least unfortunately I believe you who think obama is the ac would better serve yourselves if you opened a bible and looked for his titles. Though born in Indonesia one certainly could not call him the Prince of babylon or the Assyrian however, if he was to liberate Iraq from the clutches of the US he possibly could be seen as a middle eastern hero taking on the heroic names in each area. I will point this out however, I will point out the fact that either the US or the UN could certainly be considered the 2nd beast considering it “rose” out of the sea. You could also call us the revived roman empire due to all the symbology in DC and the fact we are in some way under the control of the vatican. The first beast of course being ROme herself as the Roman numerals above hi cap is 666. In some way America WILL cause everyone to recieve a mark on their right hand or forehead and will cause everyone to worship the first beast. Antichrist? hmmm anyone who rejects christ is an antichrit
November 14, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Rev.13:18
1, 2, 3 names, or Threescore
1. B 1. H 1.O
2. A 2. U 2.B
3. R 3. S 3.A
4. A 4. S 4.M
5. C 5. E 5.A
6. K 6. I
——7. N
6 – 7 – 5
675 can be changed into a maximum of SIX separate or unique values which are as follows: 675,657,765,756,567,576
ADD UP THE ABOVE SIX SEPARATE VALUES. If you did your math correctly, you should now have “3996”. NOW DIVIDE 3,996 BY SIX Three Names or Three Scores with only SIX possible values divided by SIX = 666.
I could be killed for what I am about to share with you:
The Illuminati killed JFK…(History)
Giuseppe Mazzini replaced Adam Weishaupt as head of the Illuminati – Mazzini was appointed head of the Illuminati in 1834. This is two years after the Skull & Bones organization was founded in 1832… The Skull & Bones are nothing more than an AMERICAN BRANCH of the ILLUMINATI. Giuseppe Mazzini became a 33rd degree Mason while attending Genoa University, and joined a secret organization known as the Carbonari. Their founding goal (Quote) “Our final aim is that of Voltaire and of the French Revolution — the complete annihilation of Catholicism, and ultimately all Christianity.”)
Giuseppe Mazzini was a 33rd Degree Freemason, a British Intelligence agent, a revolutionary terrorist, and founder of Young Europe, a network of revolutionary groups designed to cause chaos around the world, which eventually grew to include Young America, Young Russia, and Young Bosnia, a fact which will become very significant regarding World War 1.
So we are talking about two powerful men with access to the corridors of power, access to the whole free-masonic network, and access to the occult underground.
Giuseppe Mazzini, also was the original founder of the M.A.F.I.A. (Yes it is actually an acronym). He even organized the blood-rites & secrets oaths so each member of the MAFIA would be subject to the Illuminati’s control.
Albert Pike was appointed by Mazzini to quietly put in place the Illuminati’s interest which included setting up the Ku Klux Klan in America. He was an attorney, military general, and also a 33rd Degree Freemason. A Masonry author, he was considered a genius. Pike wrote Morals and Dogma (SATANIC BOOK) which was given to every member on entering the 14th Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. He was asked to help divide the USA by using slavery in preparation for the Freemason-engineered civil war of 1861. He was also investigated regarding the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and pardoned for his role by President Andrew Johnson. Pike’s tomb is in the House of the Temple, the HQ of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry which is 13 blocks north of The White House.
EVERYTHING ABOVE THE ROTHSCHILD DYNASTY FUNDED AND FINANCED INCLUDING THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT’S LINCOLN, AND JFK.
These are the real movers and shakers behind the Illuminati, Skull & Bones, Ku Klux Klan, and the Church of Satan. They have through the centuries maintained a Family Organization which rules the world. Their combined assets ave valued at APPOX. 85.5 Trillion DOLLARS. Every U.S. President in history has been approached by the Illuminati, or Skull & Bones, and they have been forced to take secret oaths. Only two presidents in history refused to follow the Illuminati- Lincoln & J.F.K. and they are both DEAD! Once Obama goes through their SATANIC RITUAL his power and Authority will be offered up, and he will become possessed… And 666 is the number of his name….
November 16, 2008 at 8:07 am
I was raised a Christian and always believed in God, but to be honest I don’t attend church and havent always been the best Christian in the world. I dont obsess over scripture and I have never believed in people forcing religion on me. In fact maybe I have steered away because I felt like people were always trying to make me believe in religion. And I’m hard headed like that. But I have had this sinking feeling in my stomach that something is very wrong with Obama. I am not racist and I would never judge someone that I don’t know, but I can’t shake this feeling that I have got every since I saw Obama speak for the first time. I have talked to friends and they all have the same bad feeling. I can’t describe it and neither can they. So I understand completely how many of the subscribers in this forum feel. I can understand others arguments that there is no proof. I have read everything from the Bible to Nieztche and can see how everyone is entitled to their own views about the creation of the world. But something is not right about this situation. At least I feel that way.
November 17, 2008 at 7:15 am
youse r all wrong n full of crap i dont believe he is the anti-christ there is no evidence to suggest the possibility of him being the anti-christ just sit back and enjoy the ride if u wanna accept jesus as ur personal saviour do it now u dont have to wait for signs.
November 20, 2008 at 10:48 am
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November 21, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Ugh. Those who proclaim their christianity the loudest are always the biggest hypocrites. I cannot believe the number of racist, uninformed bigots who base their lives on fear and judgment. People so filled with hatred and fear are calling our PEOTUS the antichrist? How does that make you any better than the person you call the antichrist?
Just because someone looks different than you, has a good education and speaks in complete sentences does not make them evil. Even if Barack Obama wasn’t a Christian and still held some Muslim beliefs (which he DOESN’T), that does not make him any less capable in his position, and it certainly doesn’t make him the anti-christ.
Maybe it’s time you people take a trip out of your small hole in the wall town, talk to others who don’t hold your short-sighted views or look exactly how you look. Apply for a passport and get to know the world around you. There is a lot of fear on this board. And, my guess is that it’s mostly fear of the unknown. Hopefully your rapture will come soon and I won’t have to be surrounded by ignorant “christians” such as yourselves when your god chooses to take you away because of your very christian views and actions.
November 23, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Annoyed,
I am amused/confused that you have “judged” Christains as being “racist, uninformed, bigots” please explain, if you would, what you mean?
November 25, 2008 at 10:20 pm
I’m happy to amuse you. I don’t believe that all christians are racist, uninformed bigots. I also don’t believe that people who are racist, uninformed bigots should call themselves christians. The only better way I can “explain” it to you is to point you to the fear-filled and hateful postings above so intent on bringing down a decent family man like Obama. It’s very ignorant to throw things like the anti-christ around. Especially by so-called christians.
November 28, 2008 at 5:08 am
well i juz wanna say that itz messed up dat you quyz are sayinq he is da anti-christ cuz i don.t think he is. there is so much violence because of people like you dat are sayinq these kinda thinqs. you should.t judge someone cuz of their background culture and i really can.t understand how you say that when you look into his eyes you feel chills or whatever. this just creates hate because you are just beinq racist but now you have tuh deal wit it cuz he is qonna be da next president!!!!!! and i don.t think he is the anti-christ i juz think he is a man that iz tryna make this country better.
November 28, 2008 at 6:35 pm
No St3ph, I’d hate what he is if he was white, brown, red or polka dot. I can’t prove he’s the anti-Christ, but I can raise a fine argument that he is a Communist. I was raised to hate Communists.
December 2, 2008 at 5:19 pm
This is to the moderator…
Have I done something wrong? My last couple of posts have been deleted, may I ask why?
December 2, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Did you guys watch the coverage the night BHO was elected? Oprah was quoting from the Bible about how if she didn’t have a role in BHO’s camaign that she felt like She would loose a part of her sole. Oprah just really creeps me out and makes me think BHO is the antichrist even more.
December 3, 2008 at 11:25 pm
LOL
December 7, 2008 at 4:53 pm
This is a little off topic here but has anyone listened/read the news about the Greek “youths” rioting? Do a little research the media coverage is less than honest. Truly the battle has begun and we are oblivious to it all… How sad.
January 4, 2009 at 4:11 am
essentially all you fuckin americans are evil and the tools of a jewish conspiracy to bring about the prophecised end of days.
You people have no clue!
we are in the end days!
the end is near.
the true Christ was born in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1993!
All i can hope is that we all live long and fruitful lives before the gig goes tits up!
January 5, 2009 at 4:33 pm
All this stuff arises from your imaginations and therefore they exist only in your minds.Everytime a new world leader arises ,you people jump in to proclaim that he is the Antichrist. you dont know Christ, Your idea of Christianity arises from Paul Who never met Christ,and Emperor Constantin who destroyed 200 copies of Gospels and killed the guardians of the Gospels and chose the four gospels that you read in your Bible today,go to the present day Constantinople and look for the Church and find the Bones of the 200 and do your Scientific research and then you will realise your folly.
Sad.,and Pathetic…
The guardians of the Christian Faith ,the pope and his office are built to maintain the political power base,,read your history not the ones from wikipedia.
the church propogates drinking the blood of Christ and eating his BODY and worship a dead man hanging from the Cross..HaHAHaHa….What CRAP is this?
This has got nothing to do with Jesus?
THIS is the WORK of Satan.
ALL Christians are the FOllowers of the DEVIL,and the children of the DEVIL,their controllers( the ones who built a Golden calf to worship despite the 10 open miracles of Moses )
WAKE up PEOPLE …Find the TRUTH.
It is not out there.
IT is in you and me and everyone of us the Humans.
January 18, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Since 2004, when BHO was introduced to America, I like many others, watched in disbelief as this “unlikely” man gave his speach at the Democratic Convention. That was my first realization that BHO would become an enigma…too big and too great a force to withstand and so much so, I felt he would win the next presidential election. Not to say I’m a prophetess…as I’m far from such. However, I just had that feeling or intuition that he’d one day be pres. When friends or family would say they thought Hillary or Mc Cain had a chance, I always replied back, “NO…not a chance! Our next pres WILL BE BHO!” So, it didn’t surprise me at all to have him in the highest office of all political leaders. Nor would it surprise me for BHO to be the antichrist! It seems the more time that goes by…the likelier his fate becomes synonomys with this “mythical creature”. I think the 1st time I actually saw this realization was when the BHO-followers litereally began calling him the “Messiah”…I mean…PLEASE! What more proof do you need? ALL I know this…as time goes by, we’ll begin to see, as BHO is revealed…just who this man…from so many backgrounds and idiologies…really is. And, yes, I DO think there’s a pretty good chance he could be “the one”.
January 19, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Jenny,
The only confirmation one needs to discern the truth of just who or what BHO is: consists of the reading of your Bible and the true and humble suplication of God in prayer. The AC is not a “mythical creature” it has taken human form in the body of BHO for the fulfillment of God’s plan at God’s appointed time.
My advice prepare yourselves for this onslaught with prayers.
January 19, 2009 at 11:28 pm
ilmy,
I reject/refute your supposition that Christians are unable to know God/Christ because of the church’s suppression and/or destruction of texts that may or may not have been included in the Bible. You assume that all Christians subscribe to the vatican’s version of God/Christ… you are wrong about that… but you already know that don’t you?
Saying that “ALL Christians” are followers of the devil only exposes your ignorance/hate of the message of God/Christ; may I suggest that you spend more time reading your Bible and less time vilifying “All Christians”.
January 20, 2009 at 5:29 am
will barick husein obama turn on Israel
January 20, 2009 at 6:05 pm
JC,
I only referenced the AC as a “mythical creature” because many secularists believe the Bible to be a “myth”. Obviously, you and I know differently. And, yes…I agree with you that he will be known through suplication and prayer! My question is this…though be forewarned…it is a question that has brought much decention amoung Christians, no matter how faithful or how well-read in scripture one claims to be: Do you believe the AC will be revealed prior to the rapture?…Is it likely even the very elect could be refined by the fire of the Great Tribulation? I say yes, though I hope I’m wrong! You know the saying?…Prepare for the worst and hope for the best!
January 20, 2009 at 9:05 pm
obama has apointed dennis blair as director of national inteligence Admiral Dennis Blair played a critical role in backing the Indonesian occupation of East Timor during the 1990s. At the height of a wave of ruthless attacks on Timorese that killed hundreds and displaced tens of thousands of christian villagers ,many were killed in churches, Blair personally informed top Indonesian general, Wiranto, of unwavering US support. He continued to support the Indonesian military until international outcry forced the Clinton administration to withdraw its military and diplomatic backing.To have a person like this in govt is not only a worry but a reflection of Obama who i believe is the antichrist ,what he does to Israel next time will tell
January 20, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Jenny,
I do not subscribe to the irrational fear that has spurned the “lie” of a rapture. Most here, that are Christains, will disagree with me on this matter and that is fine. But I want to be very clear there is no rapture in store for the followers of Christ. This lie that has taken root in Christain denominations has done exactly that which it’s “inventor/progenitor” satan has wanted it to…. created an air of apathy about one’s faith, responsiblity, and expectations to/from God; and replaced it with the willingness to believe that all you have to do is just be good and God will take you away before all the bad stuff happens…It has created a false sense of hope that the faithful will not suffer the tribualation. It has crushed what it means to be truly faithful to God and repentant for our sinful ways… This rapture lie is so against what God has told us to expect during the tribulation time; but to argue with a Chirstain who has bought into this is dogma, is much like arguing with a muslim about the moon god that they worship, utterly useless.
As you are aware God sent Jesus as a sacrifice for us to erase our sins as long as we are willing to acknowledge/turn away from those sins. God never said that our suffering would cease just because we repent those sins and believe in Christ. He offers us a place of refuge during those times of troubles/suffering, not absolution from troubles/suffering. He offers us strength when we are weak. He offers us hope where there is despair. He offers solace/peace where there is strife. Jesus’ sacrifice is not a free pass to never suffer. It is a call to recognize that without the Lamb of God there is no salvation, no expectation of life eternal.
I think upon the story of Job and his personal tribulation that satan, without interfence from God, wrought on Job. Poor Job all he needed to do to end his suffering was curse God…God knew the heart of Job for He put that heart there and He knew that Job would/could withstand the evils visited upon him… But you see satan has convinced Christains today that God would/will not allow such horrors/tribulations to visit us, after all we are pious and attend church, we tithe and in general are good people, no need to worry about being here for the tribulation… bullwhacky God knows our hearts (He placed it there) he knows that many of us are only going through the motions of living a seemingly Christain life. What we have done is fooled ourselves into believing is that God would never let us suffer the tribulation after all God loves us (this is very true) but it is not a question of does God love us—rather it is a question do we love/honor God with our lives or are we just going through the motions for the sake of self (ego), not true love of/for God? We will never love God/Jesus as much as He loves us, we will never suffer for Him what He has suffered for us.
Jenny, please understand that this great battle between God and satan has not only a spiritual side to it but it also has a physical manifestation to it… There will be/are many Christains who will not make it to that physical manifestation, I for one will not place my faith on some made up “rapture”. I will stand ready to do battle with the Armour of God on. I suggest that everyone educate themselves on just how/what/why the history of the rapture is…at best it is a gross misinterpretation of God’s Word that will cause many/most to be ill prepared for the events leading up to Jesus’ second coming. At worst that seemingly innocent misinterpretation will fool/condemn many to eternal death.
Peace to all!
January 20, 2009 at 10:43 pm
666 – what does it mean?
Firstly, let me say that when scanning thru this blog I see comments like ‘be very scared’ if Obama gets in. Let me say the opposite – don’t be scared. God doesn’t want you walking around in fear.
Secondly – in regard to anti-Christ, or to be more specific – the ‘Man Of Sin’ – I do not believe that attempting to achieve peace in the middle east is the main thing to look for.
Every bloke and his dog is trying to achieve peace in the middle east right now – it is not the definitive sign – just one of the AC’s political moves.
If we look at the fall of satan in Ezekiel 28, we will see that his fall came not just thru pride but thru sinful trading – ‘because of the iniquity of his trading he became filled with violence within and he sinned’ [also Isaiah 14].
What I believe we need to look out for is a man trying to set up a three tiered 6 digit personalised banking system for world citizens – probably in the form of an RFID chip – although that’s old technology now.
Most citizens of the planet will accept it in the name of the ‘war on terror’ and to ease the economic crisis – little do they realize that both situations were ‘created’ by the shadow bankers of the illuminati families for these very purposes.
I’d be more inclined to watch for the world leader who wants to set up global banking with personal identification systems attached to the human body. Ie : trading systems that are also tracking systems. Probably 3 tier, 6 digit system named after the man who inspires it. If Obama starts meeting with the EU and IMF and world bank on these type of issues, then I’d keep an eye on him.
In the meantime – fear not. You won’t add a day to your life by worrying about this stuff.
Of course, this is all only my conjecture and others will have a variety of opinions – which is fine. It’s called free speech, and we may as well use it while it’s still available.
January 20, 2009 at 10:48 pm
louis,
Yes, BHO/AC will turn on Isreal…but not yet, the time has yet arrived for this man of deception to show his hand. In all do time. Just watch and listen for the God of the universe/Abraham/Issac/Jacob, is speaking to all who would hear/listen. BHO/AC coronation today is the harbinger of things to come. For those of who love irony did anyone else notice what the have come to call the new presidental limo….The Beast…mmmm…
Peace to all!
January 21, 2009 at 2:44 am
hi my name is manuel and im 16 years old and sorry probably all my writting problems that could be here but i would like to know more about how obama could start the armageddon! and also that the church
(CATOLIC CHUCH) is thinking to poblicate to the next pope a black pope is not racism but i heard or i read i forgot really, that the armageddon starts with that welll thank you that goes who the one that could help me and also thaks god
January 21, 2009 at 6:15 pm
I think you are grasping at straws. Get the hate out of your heart. We are suppose to love all people, even our enemies. You should not be afraid if he is who you say he is. That means we are not far away from Glory. Stop being paranoid.
January 21, 2009 at 11:39 pm
JC…AMEN! I couldn’t have worded the TRUTH more eloquently than you last outlined! It’s precisely the reason why so many evangelicals and ministers/pastors worldwide have all but FLED from this topic altogether! I’m completely astonished so many siminary students…those whom have devoted their LIFE to apologetics and to being salt and light in a dark world…have taken root in the “rapture theory”. There could never be so good a time as the tribulation (at least the 1st 3.5 yrs) to refine the faith and test the heart of the average,fat and happy Christian. Far too many of them have lived lives far removed from the oppressive hardships many of our ancestors endured. As you touched on earlier, I believe this is exactly where a lot of “Christians” may mess up and miss their ride home! The Lord,God said “IF it were possible, the AC would deceive the very elect…and if it wasn’t for the elect’s sake…NO FLESH WOULD BE SAVED!” Perhaps Christians…and most certainly CHURCH LEADERS…should go back to the drawing board and rethink the “rapture” issue. Better to admit scriptural error NOW than to be forced to admit it before the Living God, for NOT having the mettle to stand-up for the TRUTH! We ARE accountable for what we know and what we didn’t act on!
January 23, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Jenny,
I Thessalonians 4:16-17 declares the saints will be “Caught up” to meet Jesus in the air. That’s not theory, it is fact. The debate is WHEN the “catching up” will occur. I agree with your position that saints could go through some of the tribulation. I am neither pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib; because, taking a position on something that the Bible is not perfectly clear about will put me in a position to be deceived. The scholars in Jesus’s day who said that the Messiah would be a king and reign on an earthly throne were right, but they weren’t right for the times THEY were living in. It pays to be open where the Bible is open and to take a position where the Bible takes a position.
January 24, 2009 at 5:02 am
I can surely take into consideration the face that the rapture may be entirely untrue. For one instance they claim that all children will be raptured, regardless of if they decided to put their faith in Christ or not, because they didn’t have enough time to make that decision.
Well somewhere in Matthew 24 it says Woe unto Women who give birth to children in those days. So if children were all rapture, but God is still giving Women the ability to give birth to and nurse babies, does make any sense? Kind of contradicts what the Bible is saying.
I think President #44 is the Antichrist because nobody really, truly, believes in their heart that he is, even those who suspect it, but I do now. Your right about the scripture up there “If it were possible even the ELECT will be deceived”.
There will be Christians around the world who will fuel the Antichrist and bring him into power and not even realize it.
There are apostasies in the Church and the bible says that there will be in end of days. Not everything every pastor says should be considered true, but many will be mislabeled, and many are already deceived.
What I try best to do about this big problem is to try my best not to focus on it. The Antichrist is everywhere on every channel, radio station, front entrance of Barnes and Noble bookstore right when you walk in so you almost forced to look at it, I zone it out, ignore it, I don’t give more fuel, fire, and power to the beast of the abyss.
January 25, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Paula, where do you get this? “Christ was born in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1993!”
Who says so? I’ve not heard a thing about it and google is giving me zip. So Christ is now 15? I’m not being a smart-@$$, I’m just asking for information.
February 3, 2009 at 12:04 am
I have had another dream guys I would like very much to share it with you all, for those of you who are not interested just skip it.
I am walking the sun is shining and it is warm I can feel the earth under foot warm and the dew is still on the grass. I feel the sunshine upon my skin. The skies are blue with white puffs lazily passing by. I see no one, and, I hear nothing but the birds singing their songs blending to make a symphony. In the distance I notice something; something long and filled with patches of colors, like that of a homemade quilt from long ago. As I near I see that it is a snake of some sort, (I have a huge fear of snakes) but this snake I had no fear of. I reach out to touch the snake and can feel that it was warm (I know I know snakes are not warm) it did not feel scaly, but soft just like a quilt would be, soft. I could not see either end of the snake it looked like it went on forever. All of a sudden the snake gave a jerk, so hard in fact that it almost rolled over. As I stood there pondering what in the world is this, the snake begin to twist and writhe around. I touched the snake again and a pain went through my body like a lightening bolt, the pain was so great that I could not continue to touch it. As I stood there dumbfounded the birds did not sing anymore, the ground grew cool and the sunshine begin to recede. I once again reached out and touched the snake this time though it is cooler to the touch and the vibrant colors were fading, I hugged the snake and tried to bring comfort to it. All the while the snake began to coil tighter and tighter, I know somehow that this snake is dying. All at once I am no longer wrapped in the snake and there is someone standing next to me….I know without even looking at the someone that it is Micheal an angel of the Lord. I look at Micheal, although I would be unable to describe him to you…I cannot recall not one feature. Micheal touches my arm as he asks me do I know what I am seeing…I tell him I see a snake dying slowly, painfully, in despair I can feel it’s pain and it’s confusion…He gently explains that the snake is America, once warm and vibrant honoring God in all that she did…but no longer did America honor God, no longer does she seek God’s blessing instead she has chosen a destructive path. I begin to cry for the snake. I ask Micheal what can be done for the snake…nothing…it is done…The snake is now close to being completely coiled…the gound is cold beneath my feet…the now the red hues at dusk. All is colorless and silent. I cannot bear the snake being dead…Micheal then begins to minister to me I fade into the fog that has begun to engulf us…What seemed like hours later…I am returned to the snake lifeless, colorless it’s mid section in the air, coiled up like a spring. I look and I see the head of the snake cut off from the rest of it. But the head still has movement it hisses and strikes at me that is when I reconize facial features of the snake… it is BHO/AC…I hear a scream and Micheal comes swooping in crushing it’s head with his sword. He bids me go until the appointed time. I wake up safe, secure, and filled with awe of all that I have seen and heard my soul says a prayer of thanksgiving to God for the dream. Praise God for this dream…People please wake up your souls shake them from the mindless slumber that satan would hold you prisoner of….NOW you must do it NOW!!!!
Peace to all!!!
February 5, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Obama the Antichrist?….Not a chance in Hell!!!
February 5, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Yeah I believe everything I see and hear on youtube too.
February 5, 2009 at 7:13 pm
And why else,sir/ma’am would you come to this site unless,if at first, you hadn’t at least entertained such a thought? Yes, I suppose it is a bit far-fetched to think for one moment BHO could be the AC!This Heinz 57 man, whom has so quickly become enthroned as the “messiah” by the mainstream media, celebrities and in fact, the entire world…adored by France, the EU, the UN…even terrorists…this enigmatic man WOULD NEVER…COULD NEVER… BE THE AC…NO WAY EVEN IN HELL! Assuming you were the betting type…would you be willing to wager your life on that presumption?
February 5, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Worse yet are you willing to bet your soul on that presumption?
February 8, 2009 at 2:40 am
From your silence ObamaIsNotTheAC…I will take that as a no…
July 19, 2020 at 11:16 pm
No, Obama’s indeed 150% the Antichrist. He’s Not NottheAntichrist.
There’s proof that he’s the Antichrist.
If people were smart they’d spread this as it’s the only chance to be saved in heaven.
February 23, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Hi all,
I am an amazed australian (and Christian) who came upon the ‘end time’ book by Ronald Weinland and later this site simply by looking around on the web for something totally unrelated.
We’ve been lucky in Oz, not really having suffered in ways people in other countries have (God bless them). A few months ago however, one part of our country started flooding out and hasn’t stopped since. A couple of weeks ago, another part of the country experienced horrendous bush fires where 210 people lost there lives, and as of today there is a threat on another fire disaster in the same general area.
What I am saying is that I am beginning to feel mighty uneasy about what’s to come, I mean the state of the world has concerned me for ages (MY God, a post I read further up where human and animal embryos are being combined…)
I am truely amazed and thank you all for your incredible thoughts, opinions and insights. Scarey times. A president who condones abortion? God help us all.
February 23, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Lisa,
Just pray…you need to read both of Weinland’s most recent books…He has the dates incorrect, but the bulk of what he says about events to come/going on now are true or will be. It is going to get alot worse, no one can even begin to imagine, it is time to consider the unthinkable. God’s speed to you!
February 24, 2009 at 8:55 am
Thank you kindly JC.
March 15, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Well on March 3, 2009, Hillary had talks with Netanyahu. She said that a Palestine state is unescapable, the capital will be Jerusalem, and it needs to happen SOON.
I am not saying that the Obama Administration will be the ones to sign the peace treaty (Daniel 9:27). But I will say that it would be easy for the Anti-Christ to come out of hiding at this point.
Not too sure if we will know who the Anti-Christ is before the Rapture. But it looks like it will be soon! I am not setting a date but rather watching signs.
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=18355
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090303/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_mideast_clinton
April 15, 2009 at 5:35 pm
JC Says:
February 5, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Yeah I believe everything I see and hear on youtube too.
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JC Says:
February 5, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Worse yet are you willing to bet your soul on that presumption?
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JC Says:
February 8, 2009 at 2:40 am
From your silence ObamaIsNotTheAC…I will take that as a no…
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I’m the one who made the video posted above, so yes i am willing to bet my soul that BHO is not the Antichrist. If you want to believe that BHO is the antichrist…that’s your choice, however misguided it may be.
April 15, 2009 at 7:00 pm
I think that says it all!
To me, BHO looks more and more like the AC EVERY DAY…and more and more people are beginning to see that as well!!! Basically, we’re making an educated guess. You, however, are taking an uneducated risk by betting your SOUL that BHO is NOT the AC! Not too smart!
April 20, 2009 at 1:54 am
Yes Jenny that says it all! It is not my purpose to make anyone see or understand…it is simply to share what I have been told. I have done this here, for those who are searching pray over what I have shared…God will reveal Himself to you need only to ask!
To ObamaisnottheAC, we shall see who is misguided. I will pray for you, you are going to need it.
April 26, 2009 at 7:23 am
WHO IS ANTICHRIST?
The following are end times revelations and truths about the Antichrist, revealed by the Lord Jesus Christ to me:
1. Obama is not the Antichrist but he is ‘a type of antichrist’. In fact, he is the Antichrist’s Agent, his Second Puppet, according to the Lord. What Obama has been doing is to eradicate Christian values (freedom of the entire world) and to put the US under NWO. Here’s the real scenario: The US is going to send a large troops to prepare a war with N.Korea (second half of 2009) and at the same time Russia is gonna scrap all nuclear treaties and coorperations with the US and to put N.Korea on its own court. Out of sudden, the US will be attacked by the Russian nuclear bombs (nuclear devices), which will first be seen as an ‘industrial accident’ but only to be found out later that it’s the Russian plot to destroy the US! Out of this incident, martial laws will be enforced and the UN’s foreign troops will be deployed all over the US cities. Obama will be assassinated during a military coup toward the end of 2009! The Clintons will run the government in 2010! The Lord spoke to me, “The Clintons will walk ‘side-by-side’ with the Antichrist in bringing the US and the whole world into New World Order in 2010”!
2. ‘Beast out of Seas’ is the Biblical Antichrist. He is a leader of the german-arab descent, from the Rothschild (Red Shield) wealthy family. He will emerge from the Gulf, being a Clinton’s friend. The Lord spoke to me that his spirit is that of the Hitler, who tried to conquer the world during WW2 but to be resurrected by the Devil to finish his business during this time (WW3). He will first revive the world economy and solve the mideast problems. He will then unite all religions in the world under the last pope (a black pope) and to set up ‘one-world religion’ (mark of the beast). Great terrors will befall the world under his reign. The pope will then be trampled to naught and he will declare himself ‘head’ of the UN’s One-worlder leader.
3. ‘Beast out of Nations’ is a Syrian leader. This beast is the Biblical False Prophet. The Lord said to me that Satan himself will embody this man. He will succeed where the first beast has failed and cause many to submit and to take up ‘one-world religion’ mark. He will perform many miracles and signs to deceive the Jews and God’s elect. He will conquer the world by introducing the electronic computer buy-sell system (chips) to be implanted on forehead or hands. He will also control world pupulations. He will declare himself ‘God of all Hosts’. Jesus will descend to kill him toward the end of 2017. Christ Millennium reign will begin 2018!
4. Cosmic signs (passing planet) in 2011 and 2012. The earth will be further tilted and many places will be covered under water. New continent will rise at the Pacific Ocean. WW3 (2009-2012): Syria will first attack Egypt by sending their troops to cross Israel’s border, Lebanon. Israel will retaliate by attacking Syria. Iran and Syrian will then attack Israel by using nuclear weapons. The Lord spoke to me: “Iran will be annihilated by My hands in this war”. Israel will be badly bruised but survive. The rapture of the faithful will happen as soon as the US is attacked by the Russians in 2009, followed by the chosen all over the world. The rest of Christians must go through 7 years of final tribulations (2011-2018). God bless you wherever you are.
April 27, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Lawrence, Why did God pick you to tell all this stuff to? Why doesn’t he tell Billy Graham or somebody everyone knows? somebody everyone would believe? Who are you that God just tells all this major stuff to? Why don’t you go on TV and tell everyone so we can all be prepared? I’m not saying it isn’t true, I’m just saying you wrote that like it’s a fact. Like you can’t be wrong. I’m a born-again christian, so you’re telling me that I’m going to be raptured THIS YEAR? Right after the Russians attack? We’ll see.
April 27, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Bella,
I have to concur with you. I’m not certain of the specific details regarding prophecy or how they will finally be revealed. Back, during the late 90’s, I and a host of other Christians got WAY ahead of ourselves…interpreting prophecy where we had no business interpreting it. If we’re not careful, we’ll fall prey to this type of interpretation again and…as always…we’ll look like the misguided fool once more. What’s so interesting about BHO and this discussion thread is the fact WE don’t HAVE to interpret a thing! Prophecy is being played out, right before us…and might I say…faster than I could’ve ever imagined! I, for one, predict nothing other than what BHO has already CLAIMED OF HIMSELF AS THE “MESSIAH”. Let’s face it…one who makes such an assertion must think quite highly of his/her self…and the only fruits of such an air are anything BUT self-deprication and humility. Show me a leader who doesn’t possess the proper character traits to be a GOOD leader and I will show you a leader who is so starved for power they will stop at NOTHING to gain it! Based on BHO’s very own, self-assumed likeness to the One and ONLY Messiah, one can only entertain the thought that perhaps BHO IS who he says he is…only not the One in the truest sense of the name, “Messiah”. I hope I haven’t lost you, there!
May 16, 2009 at 4:04 am
Hi,
Enclosed is a Bible study of the 7 Bible clues which reveal the identity of the coming antichrist of the Great Tribulation. Hoping for your comments and feedback.
Your eternal friend in Jesus,
Richard
WHAT ARE THE 7 BIBLE CLUES WHICH REVEAL THE IDENTITY OF 666??
Revelation 13:17b,18: “The mark of the beast {Or antichrist} is the *NAME* of the Beast or the number of *HIS NAME*. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, *LET HIM* calculate the number of the Beast {Even in AD 96 when Revelation was written}, for it is a man’s number {Or “Number of a MAN”}. *HIS* number is *666*.” God has promised in the above inspired passage that any saint {Even in AD 96–which implies that the name was known in AD 96} with spiritual wisdom and insight may calculate the name of the beast which is a *MAN’S NAME* and adds up to 666.
In Thess 2:3 the Beast of the End-Times is called a “*MAN* of sin or lawlessness” or very SINFUL MAN and therefore the name of the Beast which adds up to 666 is a *MAN’S* name which is also confirmed in Rev 13:17b,18 above. Therefore, the NAME of the Beast which adds up to 666 is a sinful *MAN’S NAME* and could not be the name of a woman or a city, country, computer or Satan, etc.. Rev 13:16,17: “He {The False Prophet} forced everyone… to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead. No one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {Nero Caesar??} or the number of his name {666}. The antichrist is called a “BEAST” 36 {6×6} times in Revelation and is a much better name than antichrist since antichrist is mentioned 4 times in God’s Word {I John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John 1:7} and each time the word encompasses all who are against Christ. I JOHN 2:18: “Even now many antichrists have come.” Surely all who receive the Mark of the BEAST are antichrists.
Actually there are 7 BIBLE CLUES that show who the BEAST of the future 1260-day Tribulation will be. By an amazing coincidence all 7 Bible clues can be applied to Nero Caesar!!
{1} The BEAST will be a “MAN OF SIN” or very sinful MAN as per 2 Thess 2:3 above.
{2} The number of this sinful man’s name is 666 as per Rev 13:16-18. The Bible was written by 40 divinely inspired Hebrews in Hebrew and Greek; so then it is highly probable that this man’s name adds up to 666 in Hebrew or Greek. Nero Caesar’s name adds up to 666 in Hebrew which we will show later in this Bible study.
{3} This sinful man whose name adds up to 666 died BEFORE AD 96 when Revelation was written.{See Rev 17:8 below}
We will show later why Revelation was written between Sept AD 95 and Sept AD 96. Nero Caesar lived from December 15th, AD 37 to June 9th AD 68.
{4} This sinful man who was alive and then died before AD 96 was FATALLY WOUNDED by a sword wound to his head. Nero Caesar committed suicide with a sword wound to his head on June 9th, AD 68. {See Rev 13:3 and Rev 13:14 below}
{5} This very sinful man who died before AD 96 was a KING in the Roman Empire as per Daniel 7:24. There were 11 Roman Kings or Caesars who died before AD 96 including the 6th Caesar who killed Paul and Peter in AD 66; and whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew. Domitian Caesar was the 12th Caesar who was alive when Revelation was written in AD 96.
{6} The beast is also called an 8th KING who ruled before AD 96 as one of 7 KINGS crowned by the city on 7 hills. {See Rev 17:9-11} The identity of these 8 KINGS will be discussed later in this article.
{7} This very sinful ROMAN KING whose name adds up to 666 and who was fatally wounded by a sword before AD 96, will “COME UP FROM THE *ABYSS* or hell as per Rev 11:7 & Rev 17:8. We know that the ABYSS is HELL by comparing 2 Peter 2:4 with Luke 8:30b,31. We can be sure that Nero Caesar is now in the Abyss or Hell since he killed Paul and Peter and thousands of Christians and sent Vespasian {the father of Titus and Domitian Caesar} to kill the Jews and destroy their Temple. The MAN OF SIN or Nero also killed his own mother and killed his pregnant wife by kicking her in the stomach.
Revelation 17:8: The beast, which you saw, once was {alive}, Now {in AD 96} is not {alive} and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book life.. .. will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was {Before AD 96}, now {In AD 96} is not {Alive} and yet will come. Rev 13:14: He {The False Prophet} will order the inhabitants of the earth to set up an image in honor of the beast who was {FATALLY-Rev 13:3} wounded by the sword and yet lived.” Rev 13:3: One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound. but the fatal wound had been HEALED!! The whole world was astonished and followed the beast.
When I was a missionary in Israel I studied the Hebrew language. One of the first things that you learn when you study the OT Ancient Hebrew language {Which is also the language of Israel today!} is that the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet ALSO represent 22 numbers! When you read Psalm 119 you will note that the 176 sentences are divided into 22 sections; each section with 8 sentences or verses praising the Word of God. These 22 sections are each headed by one of the letters in the hebrew alphabet in the exact same order as shown below. The ancient Hebrew language {Which is exactly the same as the modern Hebrew language} frequently used the letters of their alphabet to designate NUMBERS IN THE OT as follows:
ALEPH=1. BETH=2. GIMEL=3. DALET=4. HE=5. VAV=6. ZAYIN=7. CHETH=8. TETH=9. YODH=10. KAPH=20. LAMED=30. MEM=40. NUN=50. SAMEKH=60. AYIN=70. PE=80. TSADHE=90. KOPH=100. RESH=200. SHIN=300. TAV=400.
NOTE: Most vowel sounds excpt “O” {VAV} are not used as letters in Hebrew. These vowel sounds are designated by dots and dashes under their *PRECEDING* consonants. In Hebrew “N” is added on the end of all foreign names ending in “O”. Therefore, the foreign name of Nero would be “NERON” in Hebrew. The name Nero Caesar would be pronounced Neron Kaysar in Hebrew. The “E” in Neron and the 2 “A” sounds in Kaysar {There is no “C” in Hebrew} are designated by dots and dashes under their preceding consonants and therefore are not letters in the 22 letter Hebrew alphabet, and so have no numerical value. Neron in Hebrew would use 4 letters with numerical value: N-R-O-N and Kaysar in Hebrew would use 3 letters with numerical value: K-S-R. There would be a dot under the first N to show the “E” sound in NEron There would also be 2 dots under the “K” to show the “AY” sound in KAYsar and a dash under the “S” to show the “AH” sound in KaySAHr.
The 4 letters with numerical value in NERON would be {SEE TABLE ABOVE} N = 50; R = RESH = 200; O = VAV = 6; and N = NUN = 50 and 50+20+6+50 equals 306. The 3 letters with numerical value in “KAYSAR would be K = KOPH = 100; S = SAMEKH = 60; and R = RESH =200 and 100+60+200 equals 360. And so the numerical value of Nero in Hebrew is 306 and the numerical value of Caesar in Hebrew is 360, and therefore the numerical value of Nero Caesar is 306+360 or exactly *666*!
There is a very interesting footnote in the revised Standard Version concerning the number 666 which states that some ancient manuscripts have the number **616** which *DOUBLY* confirms that Nero Caesar may be the Anti-Christ!! You will note that the Hebrew language adds an “N” to all foreign names eding in “O”. Now “N” or “NUN” in Hebrew has a numerical value of **50**!! and so if you decided not to add the last “N” in NERON then Nero Caesar would add up to exactly **616** in Hebrew. I think you will admit that this is an absolutely amazing coincidence!!
Any honest Hebrew language scholar will confirm that the letters of Nero Caesar’s name add up to 666 in the Hebrew language whose 22 letters are also 22 numbers as shown above. Since all of the prophecies concerning the antichrist are written in OT Hebrew {Like Daniel 7:8-25} or NT Koine Greek it would then seem logical that God would use one of these 2 Bible languages to identify the Name of the Beast whose letters add up to 666. One of the problems of doing this in NT Koine Greek is that the letters of their alphabet are not also numbers. And therefore you can only assign a numerical value of 22 to the 22nd letter, etc.. Using this formula you could not get any name to add up to over 250, let alone 666. You have the same problem with English and all other languages other than the Hebrew language!
NOTE: The 3 different Greek words used in Revelation 13:18b to arrive at the number 666 are the 3 different Greek words for 600 and 60 and 6 and not 6 + 6 + 6.
Will the 6th Caesar {Julius, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius & the *6th* is NERO who ordered the execution of Paul & Peter in AD *66*} be the Beast who comes up from the Abyss {Or Hell-See Rev 11:7 & Rev 17:8} in the coming Great Tribulation??
Rev 1:8,9: “I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos beacuse of the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” We know that the island of Patmos was the site of a Roman prison in the first Century and that the Apostle John was suffering in this prison because of his religious beliefs. {As per Rev 1:8,9 above} The island of Patmos is about 30 miles from the port of Ephesus in Western Turkey.
History tells us that the second huge Roman persecution of Christians {The first was NERO’S PERSECUTION OF AD 64-68} occurred in the last year of the reign of Domitian Caesar which would have been from September AD 95 to September AD 96. During the last year of his rule Domitian Caesar decreed that everyone in the Roman Empire must worship idols of former Roman Caesar’s or else they would be killed or put in prison. Historical documents show us that the Apostle John lived to about AD 100 and therefore would have been alive during Domitian’s evil decree of September AD 95 to September of AD 96. Since we can be sure that the Apostle John would never worship an idol of a Roman Caesar it is then highly probable that John was put in prison on Patmos Isle sometime during Domitian’s evil decree from September AD 95 to September AD 96. Rev 1:10,11: “On the Lord’s Day I {John} was in the spirit and I heard a loud voice {Jesus} said, ‘Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the 7 churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatria, Sardis, Philadelphis and Laodicea.” The last 6 churches are all in Western Turkey within 77 miles of Ephesus. About 50 years earlier Paul had started churches in these 7 cities. Paul always had Jewish converts in the cities where he preached since he had the habit of teaching in Jewish synagogues on the Sabbath. It was then highly probable that all 7 of these chuches had Jewish believers who were very familiar with the Hebrew language and of course knew that the 22 letters of the Jewish alphabet are also 22 numbers and also remembered the first Roman persecution by Nero or the “MAN OF SIN” about 30 years earlier when Paul & Peter and thousands of Christians were martyred because of Nero Caesar. Nero also sent Vespasian, the father of Titus and Domitian; to kill the Jews and destroy their Temple. He also killed his mother and killed his pregnant wife by kicking her in the stomach.
Christian writings in the early 2nd century AD show that many Christians at that time believed that Nero Caesar {Who adds up to 666 in Hebrew} would return as the BEAST of the End-Times. Rev 13:18: “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight {Even in AD 96}, let him {Even in AD 96} calculate the Beast, for it is a man’s number. His {Nero Caesar’s} number is 666!” And so the above Scripture absolutely guarantees that anyone with spiritual wisdom and insight could figure out who the BEAST of the End-Times would be even when Revelation was first given to the churches in AD 96, and that the number of his name adds up to 666. This would of course mean that the future BEAST must have been alive before AD 96 when this Scripture was given to the churches. Nero Caesar {Whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} certainly qualified since he lived from Dec 15th AD 37 to June 9th, AD 68 when he was fatally wounded by his own SWORD.
Revelation 17:8b: “Those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life will be astonished when they see the beast {666}, because he once was {Alive–AD 37-68} now in AD 96 is not {Alive}, and yet will come.” {During the Great Tribulation} The Beast once was {Alive before AD 96} now is not {Alive in AD 96}, and will come out of the ABYSS {Or HELL} and go to his destruction.” {On the last Day-See Rev 19:20b}
The fact that the ABYSS is HELL is confirmed by comparing 2 Peter 2:4 with Luke 8:30b,31: 2 Peter 2:4: “God did not spare the angels when they sinned but sent them into HELL, putting them in gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment.” Luke 8:30b,31: “Many demons {Or Hell’s Angels} had gone into him {A demon-possessed man}. And they begged Jesus repeatedly not to order them into the ABYSS! {Because they had already been in Hell or the ABYSS before!!} Also in Luke 16:22-24 we read that there was a rich man already in HELL at the time of Jesus. Now we can be absolutely certain that an evil Roman king from the city on 7 hills; who was fatally wounded by a sword *BEFORE* Revelation was written in AD 96; and whose name adds up to 666 is presently in this ABYSS or HELL!!
All historical documents agree that Nero Caesar {The 6th Caesar who ordered the execution of Paul & Peter in AD 66 and whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} was fatally wounded by his own SWORD on June 9th AD 68. In Revelation 13:14b we learn that the False Prophet of 666 will order the building of a statue of 666 “Who was {FATALLY-See Rev 13:3} wounded by the SWORD and yet lived!” {AGAIN} Nero Caesar {Whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} again qualifies for this inspired clue as to the identity of the BEAST. Nero’s 4-year Roman persecution began when he blamed the Christians for the burning of Rome in July, AD 64; and ended when Nero was fatally wounded by his own SWORD on June 9th, AD 68.
Almost all conservative Bible theologians agree that the 4th Beast of Daniel 7:7,19 is the *ROMAN* Empire. In Daniel 7:20,21 we learn that a little horn who is also called a *KING* in Daniel 7:24 will come from this *ROMAN* Empire. Daniel 7:24b,25-27: “A *KING* {From the *ROMAN* Empire–Nero Caesar??} will arise…. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints. The saints will be handed over to him for a Time, Times and ½ a Time.” “But the court will sit, and his {666 or the Roman King or the Beast or Nero Caesar-See Rev 19:20,21 and 2 Thess 2:8} power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. *THEN* the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole Heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His Kingdom will be an everlasting Kingdom.”
Revelation 6:7,8: When the Lamb opened the 4th seal, I heard the voice of the 4th living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death {666 who will cause the death of millions} and Hades {The False Prophet who will cause millions to go to Hades by receiving the mark of 666} was following close behind him. THEY {Nero Caesar and the False Prophet} were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth. Daniel 7:8,20,24 says that an evil Roman King will conquer 3 of the 10 kingdoms {which will cover one fourth of the earth??}–Russia {Combined with former Soviet Union}, China and India cover one fourth of the earth and have over one fourth of the world’s population! These 3 kingdoms may object and become jealous of 666 and his False Prophet ruling every country in the world.
The following 10 powerful nations have about 50% of the world’s population and about 70 % of the world’s military power and certainly have the military, political and “religious” power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2. Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. Brazil borders every country in South America except Chile. Egypt is the university, intellectual and theological center of Islam. After appointing 10 kings who have never before ruled {See Rev 17:12,13} in these 10 nations 666 will then have “authority over every tribe, people, language and nation” as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in Rome. 666 and his False prophet will then quickly gain complete control over the radio, tv, internet, newspaper, book and magazine medias. There are some who suggest that these 10 nations will all come from Europe and will not include Russia, China, India, Japan and the USA and will therefore only have about 5 % of the world’s population and about 20% of the world’s military power. Daniel 7:24 confirms that the 10 kings of a revived Roman Empire also mentioned in Rev 17:12 will help 666 rule the world. However to assume that the 10 kings of these 10 end-time kingdoms must come from Europe is a false assumption since a REVIVED Roman Empire could include the Major powers of the world of the future Great Tribulation.
Revelation 13:4: Men worshipped the dragon {Satan}, and they also worshipped the beast {666 or Nero Caesar} and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?
The next 4 paragraphs are an interesting SPECULATION about what might happen at the beginning of the 1260-day Great Tribulation and who possibly may be the future False Prophet of 666.
And so Nero Caesar with the help of the armies of the False Prophet {Obama??} and other nations aligned with him will conquer 1/4 of the world {See Rev 6:8; 13:4b} and then 666 will appoint 10 kings over 10 kingdoms to rule the world who have never before ruled {see Rev 17:12-14} and who will then take orders from 666 and his False Prophet from their headquarters in the evil city on 7 HILLS or Rome.{See Rev 17:9}
Revelation 6:6: “A quart of wheat for a day’s wages!” This phrase can also be translated “A loaf of bread for a day’s wages.” This event will occur at the coming of the black horse rider {Rev 6:5} which will take place just before or at the beginning of the Great Tribulation. Because of the world’s present economic crises the majority of people in the 40 poorest counties now have to pay a full day’s wages for a loaf of bread as per Rev 6:6. And if the world experiences a world-wide depression this event could occur in over 100 countries. The world economic crises is rapidly accelarating. Many countries are far worse off than people in the USA during the Great Depression when there was 20 % unemployment. The world economic crises is rapidly accelarating. There are now 40 countries with unemployment rates of over 30 % and this should rapidly increase. And then the world will certainly be looking for an Economic Savior such as 666 and his very deceptive False Prophet. They will be looking for someone who promises CHANGE!! If the Great Tribulation would begin in the near future is there a well-known, powerful world leader that may qualify to be the deceptive False Prophet of 666 who will promise CHANGE you can believe in!! Will this powerful world leader try to bankrupt the USA which will in turn cause a worldwide depression and cause the price of a loaf of bread to cost a full day’s wages??? 666 is called a beast 36{6×6} times in Revelation and the false prophet is also called a beast in Rev 13:11. Obama has nicknamed his presidential Limousine “THE BEAST”! The False Prophet is featured in Revelation 13:11-17; 16:13 19:20 & 20:10.
Do Obama’s religious beliefs qualify him as a False Prophet?? Some insight into Obama’s “Christianity” comes from an interview he gave in 2004 to Chicago Sun-Times religion editor Cathleen Falsani for her book, “The God Factor: Inside the Spiritual Lives of Public People.”
“I’m rooted in the Christian tradition,” said Obama. He then adds something most Christians will see as universalism: “I believe there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.” Jesus says of Himself, “I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” That sounds exclusive, but Obama says it depends on how this verse is heard. According to Falsani, Obama thinks that “all people of faith — Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone — know the same God. “Obama doesn’t believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell. But he’s not sure he’ll be going to heaven, either.” The False Prophet will certainly teach that you can have your cake and eat it too, and that you will not go to hell if you receive the Mark of the Beast; allowing you to buy or sell everything. However, Rev 14:9-11; 19:20 & 20:10 confirm that he and all who receive the Mark of the Beast will be tormented day and night for ever and ever in Hell!
NOTE: There are many statues of the exact likeness of Nero Caesar including a 151 foot statue in the “Golden House” in Rome. The statue of Liberty {Without pedestal} is also exactly 151 feet high… hmmm. At the beginning of Great Tribulation the False Prophet of 666, Rev 13:14: “Will order the people of the earth to set up a statue in honor of the beast who was wounded {Fatally-Rev 13:3} by the SWORD and yet lived!” {Again} This staue of the Beast will be the “exact likeness” of Nero Caesar and could possibly be seen on World Wide TV so that people of all nations will be able to worship this statue as per Rev 13:15b. Obama’s Air Force 1 plane just had a photo op with the Statue of Liberty….Hmmm…. WARNING: The possible identity of the future False Prophet of 666 is just an interesting SPECULATION.
“Babylon” is called a CITY 7 times in Revelation, chapter 18, and a SEAPORT in Rev 18:17-19. Peter was inspired to call Rome “Babylon” in I Peter 5:13. Rome is a CITY and a SEAPORT built on 7 HILLS! Babylon and Jerusalem are not seaports and are not built on 7 hills!
Rev 13:14-17: The False Prophet deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was {FATALLY-Rev 13:3} wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast {666}, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {NERO CAESAR} or the number of his name {666}. And God will supply all the needs of His faithful and corageous Tribulation saints just as He miraculously supplied all the needs of the Israelites for 40 years in the wilderness. {See Matt 6:31-34}
Rev 13:5-10: The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {Or 1260 days or time, times and 1/2 a time-See Dan 7:25 & Dan 12:1,2,6b,7b}….. He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast–all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb…. This call for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.
Matt 24:9-12…Matt 24:29-31: Jesus says, “Then {During the 42-month Great Tribulation} you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by ALL nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved… Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the **CLOUDS**{See Rev 1:7; Mark 14:62 & I Thess 4:16,17} of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud **TRUMPET**{See Rev 10:7; 11:15-18; I Cor 15:51,52; I Thess 4:16} call, and they will gather His elect from the 4 winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.” {Mark 13:27 adds, “From the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.”
There will be 2 Comings of Jesus on the same Last Day: The first above was *FOR* His saints and then after the Marraige Feast of the Lamb Jesus will come *WITH* His saints as per Rev 19:6-8; 11,14,19-21: “Hallelujah! For our Lord God Almighty reigns, Let us rejoice and be glad and give Him glory! For the Wedding of the Lamb has come, and His bride has made herself ready, fine linen, bright and clean was given her to wear…. I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose Rider is called Faithful and True… The armies of Heaven were following Him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean… Then I saw a beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the Rider on the horse and His army {See Rev 17:14 & Jude 14,15}. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs and his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshipped his image. The two of them were thrown ALIVE into the fiery lake of burning sulfur {See 2 Thess 2:8}. The rest of them were killed by the sword that came out of the mouth of the Rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
WILL THE CITY ON 7 HILLS OR ROME BE THE END-TIME BABYLON?? AND WHO ARE THE 7 KINGS FROM THE CITY BUILT ON 7 HILLS??
Most Bible scholars believe that the book of First Peter was written shortly after the beginning of Nero’s Roman persecution of Christians in AD 64 because of I Peter 4:12,13 & 5:8,9. We know that Peter and his wife were living in Rome at this time. Peter was inspired to write in I Peter 5:13: “She {Peter’s wife} who is in *BABYLON* {Nickname for *ROME*!} sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark.” Apparently some Christians including Peter were inspired to call ROME “BABYLON” after Nero’s terrible persecution of Christians starting in AD 64. This is very interesting since the evil city of the End-Times is called “BABYLON” 6 times in Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21. Ancient Babylon Had destroyed God’s Holy Temple and God’s Holy City, Jerusalem; and killed, exiled and persecuted God’s people for 70 years. Actually all encyclopedias agree that Babylon was completely evacuated in 275 BC and completely destroyed by 141 BC. The Wikipedia encyclopedia states, “By 141 BC, when the Parthian Empire took over the region, Babylon was in complete desolation and obscurity.” The only question that remains is: Was Babylon rebuilt so that there could be people living in Babylon around AD 65 when Peter wrote 1 Peter 5:13??? Which leads us to the promises of God in Jeremiah 50:1-3,13: This is the word the Lord spoke through Jeremiah concerning Babylon..”Babylon will be captured… A nation from the north will attack her and lay waste her land. No one will live in it; both men and animals will flee away!” Jeremiah 52:52:61-64: When you get to Babylon, see that you read all these words aloud. Then say, “O Lord, you have said you will destroy this place, so that neither man nor animal will live in it; IT WILL BE DESOLATE FOREVER When you finish readiing this scroll, tie a stone to it and throw it into the Euphrates. Then say, “So will Babylon SINK TO RISE NO MORE because of the disaster I will bring upon her.” And God ALWAYS keeps His promises.
And God kept His promise for about 2284 years; since Babylon is still a pile of rubble to this very day, and will remain that way until the Last Day of the Planet Earth; for God always keeps His promises. “Babylon” {Nicknamed Rome by Peter} is a “GREAT SEAPORT” in Rev 18:17-19; JUST LIKE ROME and UNLIKE Babylon whose ruins are NOW 4 miles from the very shallow Euphrates River; or Jerusalem which is 2000 to 3000 feet above sea level and 35 miles from the Mediterranean Sea. Babylon is also completely FLAT whereas the End-Time “Babylon” will be a city built on 7 Hills JUST LIKE ROME!!
Rev 17:18: “The woman you saw {Rev 17:3–Who sits with the Beast with 7 heads} is the great *CITY* {Rome–nicknamed Babylon in I Peter 5:13–See Rev 17:5a} that will rule over the kings of the earth.” {During the Great Tribulation} Rev 17:9-11: “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The 7 heads are 7 hills on which the woman {Or city of Rome} sits.” Rome is a city built on 7 HILLS!! They {The 7 Heads} are also 7 KINGS {From the city on 7 hills or Rome}. Five {Of these 7 KINGS} have fallen {Or died before AD 96}, one {the 6th KING} *IS* {Or reigning when Revelation was written in AD 96}, the other {or 7th KING} has not yet come, but when he {The 7th KING} does come, he must remain for for a little while. {Possibly the False Prophet of 666 {Or Black Horse Rider} who will be anointed by Satan just before the coming of the 8th KING {Or Pale Horse Rider} who ruled before as one of the 7 Kings} The beast {Nero Caesar who once was {Alive from Dec 15, AD 37 to June 9, AD 68}, and NOW {In AD 96} is not {Alive} is an 8th KING. He belongs to the 7 {KINGS}, because He once was {Alive-AD 37-68} NOW {In AD 96} is not {Alive}, and yet will come {1260 days before the Last Day}.”
WHO ARE OR WILL BE THE 8 KINGS OF REV 17:10,11?? ROME APPOINTED THE JEWISH KINGS AFTER THEY CONQUERED ISRAEL IN 63 BC AND THE 7 KINGS OF REV 13:1B all had “blasphemous names” so we can assume that they were evil kings who had killed or persecuted Jesus and His followers. And so the first 3 EVIL KINGS {Who are all called KINGS in God’s Word{See Matt 2:1; Mark 6:25,26 & Acts 12:1} were all Israeli KINGS {who had killed or persecuted Jesus and His followers} appointed by the evil city on 7 hills or Rome:
AND SO THE 8 KINGS WERE OR WILL BE:
** {#1} ** Herod the Great who tried to kill the baby Jesus: Rev 12:3-5: “Another sign appeared in Heaven : An enormous red DRAGON {Or Satan-See Rev 12:9} with 7 heads {Or 7 KINGS-See Rev 17:10a}… and 7 crowns on his {7} heads {Satan crowns the 7 kings whereas 666 crowns the 10 horns}. The DRAGON {Or Satan} stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her Child the moment he was born {Thru his first evil king or Herod the Great as per Matt 2:13b,16!!} She gave birth to a Son {Jesus} a male Child, who will rule the nations with an iron scepter!!”
**{#2}** Herod who killed John the Baptist and ridiculed and tortured Jesus {See Matt 14:1-12; Luke 23:7-11}
**{#3}** Herod Antipas who killed the Apostle James and tried to kill Peter. {See Acts 12:1-5,19-23} **{#4}** Nero Caesar who will come again as the 8th KING who will be the BEAST of the End-Times.
**{#5}** Titus Caesar who killed thousands of Christians when he destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70. Titus is also mentioned as a “Prince” in Daniel 9:26. Titus Caesar was the oldest son of Vespasian Caesar who was Caesar from Dec AD 69 to AD 79; and therefore heir and Crown *PRINCE* to the throne in Rome and was Caesar from AD 79 to AD 81.
**{#6**}** Domitian Caesar the 6th KING {“NOW IS”} was ruling in AD 96, and decreed in the last year of his reign {Sept AD 95 to Sept AD 96} that everyone must worship former Roman Caesars {Like Nero} or be killed and put in prison.{Like the Apostle John who was living in Ephesus at that time.}
**{#7}** Possibly the False Prophet of 666 who will be crowned the 7th evil King of Rome by Satan shortly before the coming of the:
**{8th}** KING or Nero Caesar {The End-Time Beast or antichrist}; who ruled before as one of the **7 KINGS** The 4TH & 8TH KING will come up up from the Abyss or Hell exactly 1260 days before the last Day to rule from the evil city on 7 hills or Rome.
Rev 17:6: “The woman {ROME} will be drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bear testimony to Jesus.” While in in Rev 13:7 we learn that the BEAST will be given “power to make war against the saints and to conquer them.” And in Rev 13:15b we read that 666 will “cause all who refuse to worship his statue to be killed.” We must therefore conclude that the evil city “on 7 hills” or Rome will be the HEADQUARTERS of 666 during the Great Tribulation.
The BEAST will very quickly conquer 1/4th of the world with many miracles {See Rev 6:8; 13:4} and will then appoint 10 Kings who have never before ruled over the 10 most powerful nations of the world {See Rev 17:12-14,17}. The following 10 powerful nations have about 50% of the world’s population and ABOUT 70% OF THE WORLD’S MILITARY POWER and certainly have the military, political and “religious” power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2. Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. Brazil borders every nation in South America except for Chile. Egypt is the university, intellectual and theological center of Islam. And then 666 will have “authority over every tribe, people, language and nation” as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in the evil city built on 7 hills or Rome.
July 14, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Is Obama REALLY the Antichrist? Who can tell anymore? But I Can’t think of anyone who better fits the profile than him.
July 20, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Please note that on June 18, 2009…Ray Mabus became BHO/AC’s Secretary of the Navy…for those here who have read my previous posts please do the follow up for yourselves. Get our your Bibles and study like your soul depends on it…for it does.
July 20, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Please note that on June 18, 2009…Ray Mabus became BHO/AC’s Secretary of the Navy…for those here who have read my previous posts please do the follow up for yourselves. Get out your Bibles and study like your soul depends on it…for it does.
July 21, 2009 at 1:43 am
Sorry folks for the double post…I am not sure what I did do that…
July 29, 2009 at 8:31 am
I just ran across this discussion & it’s clear that the nutcases did not start last summer. Anti-Christ? Evil? Where have you been for the last 8 years as the Bush thugs exploited the horrors of 9/11 to assualt our freedoms and send 4000+ Americans to their graves, much more than the 9/11 hijackers.
July 29, 2009 at 8:39 am
this realization was when the BHO-followers litereally began calling him the “Messiah”…I mean…PLEASE! What more proof do you need? ALL I know this…as time
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I know of NO Obama supporters who consider him a “Messiah”. The only people I’ve seen who believe this nonsense are fevered Obama opponents. What are you people smoking?
July 29, 2009 at 8:45 am
has already CLAIMED OF HIMSELF AS THE “MESSIAH”. Let’s face it…one who makes such an assertion must think quite highly of his/her self…and the only fruits of such an air are anything BUT self-deprication and humility
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Really? GW Bush said in an interview (apparently with a straight face) that he thought God wanted him to be President & God wanted him to invade Iraq. And no one questioned his sanity? God wanted him to invade a country that posed no serious threat to the US. 4000+ Americans died as a reult of this arrogance and treason.
July 29, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Tom – where do you get your facts? Or are you just TOTALLY STUPID??
George Bush is far from arrogant, and hardly guilty of treason……and He never referred to himself as the Messiah…post on here the video or reference the article where you conjured that one up… you bogus liar!
Obama stands up in Afghanistan and proclaims “we’re not a christian nation!” Apparently your hero hasn’t read anything our Founding Fathers wrote…including the Constitution…..if we’re not a christian nation it’s because too many people in our gov’t arn’t…the majority of the public WANTS GOD BACK in our schools and our leaders to go back to our heritage..that’s what made our country GREAT.
You say Iran posed no threat?? They were harboring terroists…look how that regime treated it’s own citizens…and we’re supposed to stand by and DO NOTHING? Where would FRANCE be if
You may be an american……but you’re NO PATRIOT.
September 8, 2009 at 5:45 am
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September 15, 2009 at 11:33 pm
y’all are stupid! First of all Barack Obama has children. Second of all we have other people who are far wicked than anything you can imagine. I think he does what is fitting for society
November 30, 2009 at 1:02 am
That is nice to definitely find a site where the blogger is very knowledgable.
December 13, 2009 at 1:57 am
I have recently had a prayer answered by the Lord Jesus Christ. The prayer I prayed 2 years ago during the “down-hill-slide” of my 15 year-long marriage. The prayers were, ” Pleas, Father, break my heart, oh God! and renew a right spirit within me. It was answered since the last of September.
What this has to do with Obama?
As sad as I was to have voted him in, I did. I already had a feeling that he may be the anti-Christ during all the intros and debates and so on.
The Word of God, as preachers call it, is the Bible (the “believers instruction book”).most all churches and”so-called preachers” are too blind too see that God never intended the Bible to be complicated; but to just be read as simple, acceptable, and livable instructions. We believers in Jesus, were given instructions to how to “witness” Christ and Gods love to the “unbelievers.” We are concentrating on a possible fact (biblical prophesy) regarding an obviously evil men instead of “hearing Gods Words to us” witnessing tothe lost sheep. Why do you think the Church is Falling Away? Layhe and Jenkins,2 of Gods workers wrote the book-series and screen-plays to the “Left Behind” series. They based it all on the Bible, admitting we don’t know the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man (Jesus) will return. Recently while watching the 3 DVD Left Behind movies with my heart, anew, I have found that it will be this generation that experiences what so many call the “Rapture” (Rapture is not frome the Bible, and the gimmick callede “the Concordence to the Bible” should be burned. Why? My God made it very specific in “just the Bible”–“not 1 word shall be added to this book or taken away. My own dad predicted Christ’ return twice in 1999 for 1999. This very year God alone was able to open my eyes to how evil my parents, both were. Watch the Left Behind series, (even if you’ve seen it many times for entertainment only)with your heart and prayer. The 1st movie, the preacher that’s left behind states a powerful message to the believer. That statement is “KNOWING and BELIEVING ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT MEANINGS.”
Do I still believe Obama is the anti-Christ? I do; but I will do the work which God has given me to do, which is witnessing to the lost. There is no more time for the fascination of prophesies. Those prophesies Jesus spoke are warnings to us all and I’m tired of 1-tracked minded believers in churches and preachers just hearing what they want to hear. I may get thrown in jail for this; but the “world” can only kill the body. My spirit belongs to my “Daddy in Heaven and Jesus Christ.”
I probably won’t actually retur to this site; but I’m sure if you request my e-mail, they would 1st contact me with a reasonable request and questions. I am only a man who has, this very year, been under-going an “over-haul” in the Lord.
January 12, 2010 at 5:20 am
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January 28, 2010 at 12:24 pm
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February 4, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Morning, thanks for getting a Good fake, specially from the major news corperations with the big slants to the left or right. Did you see last nights O’Rielly factor? haha, that was rediculous! Sorry, I am rambling on again. Have a Great 1!
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It’s been a long time since I last posted…but was just curious what all of our “thinkers” were thinking lately? I thought we had a great dialog going as most seemed to wax so eloquently…but I know I FOR SURE have learned an overwhelming amount in recent months. Could I say it all leads to BHO becoming the Anti-Christ? I don’t know…but I DO know that the US is in for a REAL EYE-OPENER!! How many of you listen to Alex Jones’ infowars.com? His online/radio following has literally doubled overnight and according to alexa.com, he leaves Limbaugh and Beck in the dust as far as website views…over DOUBLE their views!! That’s incredible! People are waking up in droves! If you’re still hypnotized into the left-right paradigm, go straight to http://infowars.com/ …and don’t look back! Then, let’s meet back here and discuss!
March 3, 2010 at 11:59 am
Jenny,
Yes, I do keep up with Alex Jones. I never knew who he was until April 2008. While I do not post often at his site I do visit and read and ponder and pray what he has posted. He certainly is has lots of interesting things at his site.
May 3, 2010 at 7:52 am
Wow. For being followers of Christianity, you certainly know nothing of its origins and cultural contexts.
First of all:
THE BIBLE WAS NOT WRITTEN MAINLY FOR WHITE PEOPLE!!!
So many people get this wrong and take it to extremes. The anti-christ will most likely not be someone of african decent. If you believe this, you are blindly listening and not reading your religion.
I consider myself a very religious person (a christian) and I still say this.
If anything, the beast my be someone of Caucasian descent.
This is mostly due to the Far-Right slander that has been going around. They are so afraid of losing their power over the people of this country that they recklessly threw out the “anti-christ” card on President Obama. That was a last ditch effort on their part. Now, you have idiots like Glenn “crazy” Beck and Sarah Palin leading a vendetta campaign against Obama based on religion alone.
Open your eyes and get a clue.
Sincerely,
A concerned American citizen.
God Bless
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May 5, 2012 at 9:36 pm
WOE TO THE INABITERS OF THER EARTH FOR THE DEVIL IS COME DOWN UNTO MAN
It’s been a few years since my last post…and I’m STILL unwavering on my stance, that I believe BHO IS the Anti-Christ, in-waiting! NOW…more than EVER…I am convinced by the overwhelming evidence we now have.
Hope everyone will come back for a colorful discussion! Leave your comments! If BHO is THE MAN OF PERDITION, we have a lot to talk about! This video lays it out, perfectly! BTW…you’re not going to believe how things fit together with events and tragedies that you wouldn’t have otherwise thought was related…(HINT: Whitney Houston’s death…Tupac’s hologram)
Oh, but it is!!!
So, without further ado…I present the case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHiShfKmS7Q&feature=g-u-u
March 28, 2013 at 4:22 pm
We have moved beyond the shadows and now are in total darkness. Pray. My dreams are to be returning. Last night I sat under the tree of life upon my picnic table bench. Beholding the garden of G_d. So rare the colors I have no words that can describe the beauty before me. The sight of the millions of flowers stretching farther than my eyes could see. There in stillness the Light came speaking directly to me. The message “you will be given seven dreams. These dreams are to Glorify The Most High. Write them down, share them. Churches have forgotten My Name. They love things that I abhor. They turn from Me from My Word. They love the things I cannot condone. Your leaders are bankrupt they are dead inside. They seek unholiness. Calling good that which is evil and corrupt. Time grows short and narrow is the path. Lucifer has built his army they descend as locusts upon the land. They are destroying those I have gathered unto me. Whereas there has been one ordained to fight against the darkness, she is bound and can no longer withstand the perils that have come upon her. America has succumed to the diseases which plague her. She no longer serves as My host.”
I listened and pondered what I had been told. I ask there is nothing to be done? “Pray”. So I ask each of you to pray.
I awoke from my dream and immediately I prayed a prayer of thanksgiving and asked for endurace. The wolf is nearly uncloaked. The flock nearly fleeced. Behold our demise nearly complete. Yet I am unable to sit idle and not fight. Through prayer and belief in Yeshua all things are possible. Put upon yourself the Armour of G_d…prepare believers in Christ as the Messiah…we are marching into war.
May G_d with you all.
November 13, 2022 at 11:25 pm
Obama’s the Antichrist. We have to stand up. Let’s gather and regroup. We need to engage the Devil and fight him by the revelation of his fake birth certificate and announcing his real name to the whole world.
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Hi, Obama’s still in the running. He’s ripping off the elections now. The Antichrist is strong. We’re just weaklings and he’s stealing our lives from us now.